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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 1 May 89 Volume 7 : Issue 78
Today's Topics:
A/UX Hard Disk backup
ArcMac -- additional suggestions (DeltaSave ?)
Chemistry CD-ROMs
Combining .HQX
Combining Large HQX files
DIRectory 3.0 Demo and DIReader
Facade
Facade INIT installation
Hebrew fonts?
HyperCard Report Problem
Iconia 7.0 Demo
Initializing appletalk-ip routing using K-star/Kinetics
Jasmine cdev problem with MultiFinder
Macs and Ham Radio
my sounds
Need help installing Facade INIT
UUCP for Mac
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 00:06:03 EDT
From: Alexis Rosen <cucard!ccnysci!alexis@columbia.edu>
Subject: A/UX Hard Disk backup
Recently, Frank Peters asked about unix backups.
There are a few backup products that will back up a partition image, but there
is only one which will work under A/UX, doing true file-by-file backup. It
is the Irwin DC2000 product. Currently it can do 120MB on a tape, but they
should have a 300MB DC600 by this summer. I've played with this product quite
a bit and it looks very very nice. You can have cron back things up for you
at three AM, for example. The backup program takes command-line options,
but if you invoke it with none it pops up looking like a real Mac app. It
even uses color.
These guys really seem to know what they're doing. When we get our A/UX box
I have every intention of getting their tape, even though I'm usually a
happy and satisfied MicroNet customer.
BTW, they also have lots of other really neat products coming. Not to mention
a few neat ones already shipping.
---
Alexis Rosen
alexis@ccnysci.{uucp,bitnet}
alexis@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (last resort)
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 89 19:17 CDT
From: "Sandro Corsi, Univ.of WI-Oshkosh" <CORSI@oshkosh.wisc.edu>
Subject: ArcMac -- additional suggestions (DeltaSave ?)
Don Gilbert asks for encouragement for his major ArcMac revision project --
so here's plenty of cheers for this most deserving of programming endeavour
(especially now that StuffIt is apparently being taken commercial). I would
also like to put forth a suggestion for an added feature. In fact, this is
slightly off the mark -- but still related to archiving and compression.
In my work, I often create several closely related versions of the same
file. Some of these are bound for the trashcan, but some I want/need to
keep. Since I work mostly with raster graphics programs, the typical file
will be anywhere between 2 and 3 MBytes, and some can be quite a bit
larger. Maintaining a thorough archive, therefore, is rather
space-consuming and, since I have no alternative but to dump stuff to tape,
also difficult to access.
I have always wondered whether it would be possible to generalize the
version-control systems available for source-code text files to arbitrary
binary files, i.e. -- instead of saving version 154 all over again, compare
it with version 153 and save the differences only. I imagine that in some
cases it would be necessary to have some knowledge of the file structure,
but in general a file is a file is a file -- and as long as you can piece
it back together correctly, the originating application should have no
problem reading it back.
In graphics, besides saving vast amounts of space in files that are subject
to frequent revisions (CAD being another example), it would also be helpful
with repetitive kinds of imagery -- such as animation (each frame being
only slightly different from the previous one). Analogous benefits could be
had in fields other than graphics. Also, where necessary, this could
facilitate keeping an audit trail. And, it would make for much more
efficient use of write-once media.
Ideally, such capability would be implemented within the standard Save file
dialog box (possibly as an INIT which adds a "Save as delta" checkbox ?) But
also a separate standalone application to compare and save files already on
disk would be quite helpful.
Is this entirely off the wall, or is there a chance of throwing it into the
Great Archiving Cauldron ? Thanx for listening, anyway.
Sandro Corsi
Art Dept.
Univ. of Wisconsin - Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 89 19:20 CDT
From: "Sandro Corsi, Univ.of WI-Oshkosh" <CORSI@oshkosh.wisc.edu>
Subject: Chemistry CD-ROMs
K360171%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Norbert Mueller) writes:
> We are currently searching for CD-ROMs with chemical oriented databases
A company called "Bureau of Electronic Publishing" (in spite of the name,
and their eagle logo, these folks are NOT a government agency) puts out a
catalog of CD-ROM titles which includes the following:
"Encyclopedia of Polymer Science and Engineering" $3,100
"Kirk-Othmer Encyclopedia of Chemical Technology" $ 840
"Powder Diffraction File" $5,900
"Registry of Mass Spectral Data" $2,645
Generally they specify an IBM PC as required equipment but -- as mentioned
by Brian Bechtel in Info-Mac Digest V7 #76 -- if you did get the ISO 9660 /
High Sierra software upgrade for your Apple CD SC, then there should be no
problem in accessing these disks (of course, if they require special
software to be searched, and the software only runs on PCs, then things are
a bit more complicated).
The Bureau ships the CDs in the catalog for an additional $5 fee (there is
a 20% surcharge for foreign orders). Their address is:
P.O.Box 43131
Upper Montclair, NJ 07043
(201) 746-3031
Sandro Corsi
Art Dept.
Univ. of Wisconsin - Oshkosh
Oshkosh, WI 54901
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 9:39:28 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Combining .HQX
#CARLS9%ccm.UManitoba.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu writes:
>Is there an application that will automatically combine the large
>.HQX files and strip the message headers?
>If not, what do other's use? MS-Word or MacWrite?
>
>Thanks,
>Charles
>
Look in the <info-mac> archives. There's a utility called Unity 1.0, which
does just what you want. I think it is in the utility directory. As a
suggestion, tho... Why mess around with downloading multiple segments of
.hqx files? Combine them on your Internet host, using 'cat' for example, on
a UN*X host. Then you only have to download one file.
Or, to go a step further, (once again, assuming you run unix) and download
xbin and macbin from <info-mac>. Compile them and use xbin to decode .hqx
files into the three MacBinary file components. You'll get (from file.hqx):
file.rsrc, file.data & file.info. Use macbin to combine those three into a
Macintosh file. Benefits include, fewer files to download, smaller files to
download (macbinary files are smaller than their .hqx representations), use
of the processing power of your host to do the scutwork of file conversion.
Disadvantages, of course; you gotta use the stupid command line syntax,
unix file names must be used, etc.
The files you get look like this. I ftp'd arcmac-13c.hqx from <info-mac>,
then ran xbin and macbin on it...
This is the file I started with:
-rw-r--r-- 1 tcora fsa 176740 May 1 09:07 arcmac-13c.hqx
Running xbin created these:
-rw-r--r-- 1 tcora fsa 103670 May 1 09:14 ArcMac.ARC.data
-rw-r--r-- 1 tcora fsa 128 May 1 09:14 ArcMac.ARC.info
-rw-r--r-- 1 tcora fsa 25962 May 1 09:14 ArcMac.ARC.rsrc
Running macbin created this:
-rw-r--r-- 1 tcora fsa 129792 May 1 09:14 ArcMac.ARC.bin
Note that the Macbinary file is ~73% the size of the .hqx file. Takes less
time to download, that way.
tom c
ARPA: tcora@pica.army.mil -or- tcora@ardec.arpa [201] 724-4344
UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!tcora BITNET: Tcora@DACTH01.BITNET
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 09:34 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen - Micro Specialist)
Subject: Combining Large HQX files
Original Question:
>From: #CARLS9%ccm.UManitoba.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu
>Subject: Combining .HQX
>
>Is there an application that will automatically combine the large
>.HQX files and strip the message headers?
>If not, what do other's use? MS-Word or MacWrite?
>
>Thanks,
>Charles
My Response:
On a VAX running VMS 5.0 I simply use the copy command to concat the various
parts into one big file, which I then download using Kermit. It has worked
most recently with Image-112-Part1 & Part2.
Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 89 23:15:55 -0200
From: sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m)
Subject: DIRectory 3.0 Demo and DIReader
New version of DIRectory 3.0 Demo - The icon-based disk catalog program.
Also included - DIReader which is capable of reading documents
created by DIRectory.
DIRectory 3.0 Demo and DIReader are freeware. Please feel free to
give it to anyone who wants a copy.
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/directory-30.hqx; 213K]
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 89 19:43 EDT
From: Josh Smith <JBS92@campus.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Facade
You actually need to edit the Facade init itself. Use ResEdit to modify the
ICN# resource of Facade; create as many ICN#'s as you like (or as
many as the program can handle--don't know if there's an upper bound, but if
there is it's above twenty at least), or modify old ones, or whatever suits
your fancy. Once you've got some pictures you like, Get Info on a given ICN#
and change that ICN#'s name to the name of the disk you want to have that icon.
Restart your Mac with Facade in the system folder and voila! Note that since
each ICN# can only have one name, if you want a single icon to be used for more
than one disk, you'll have to duplicate it and rename the copy to the other
disk's name. And, of course, if you change the name of a disk, you'll have to
change the name of the ICN# or it will revert to the standard disk icon. Also
note: the ICN#'s ID numbers are totally irrelevant, except that ID=128 is the
icon it shows at startup to let you know the program is running.
-Josh Smith
JBS92@CAMPUS.SWARTHMORE.EDU
or JBS92@SWARTHMR.BITNET
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 09:07:34 edt
From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Facade INIT installation
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question concerning the installation of
the INIT Facade - I was making the problem much harder than it needed to be.
One note of which may be of interest, one which I didn't notice in the
documentation: holding down the shift key when booting bypasses Facade - you
get the Facade Failure icon during boot (the broken down buildings instead of
the normal Facade Success icon, and your disk will mount with the standard
icon. - Gregg
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
Gregg TeHennepe | Academic Computing and User Services
Minicomputer Specialist | Box 1482
BITNET: gateh@conncoll | Connecticut College
Phone: (203) 447-7681 | New London, CT 06320
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 89 11:54:54 EDT
From: Larry Kolodney <LKK@ai.ai.mit.edu>
Subject: Hebrew fonts?
Can anyone tell me of the existence or availability of Macintosh Hebrew
fonts? I'm not on this list, so please mail directly.
Thanks,
larry kolodney
lkk@ai.ai.mit.edu
lkk@eddie.uucp
lkk@mit-eddie.uucp
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Date: Mon 01 May 1989 07:52 CDT
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HyperCard Report Problem
Hi all....I was fooling with Hypercard 1.2.1 the other day and when I tried
to print 43 copies of a report, it refused to do so, and only printed one
copy. So I tried less than 43 -- say 2 -- and it still refused to do so.
Needless to say, this is a real pain. Is there a bug fix for this?
I'm using system 6.0.2, finder that goes with it...etc...
Bye for now but not for long
Greeny
BITNET: MISS026@ECNCDC
Internet: MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 89 23:14:50 -0200
From: sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m)
Subject: Iconia 7.0 Demo
Iconia 7.0 Demo
Using Iconia is a fast and easy way to create application and
document icons used by the Finder. Iconia performs resource
compilation which makes the use of ResEdit superfluous when
creating the bundle structure. New or modified icons are directly
visible in the Finder, without rebuilding of the Desktop file.
Icons can be copied from programs, be read from MacPaint documents
or PICT files. The Clipboard and Scrapbook are fully supported.
Features
* Large icon and mask editor with preview.
* Tool set in separate window.
* Edit commands with multiple format support(ICN#, ICON, CURS, SICN and PICT)
* Import of icons from any file(ICN# and ICON)
* Import of any part of Paint/PICT files.
* Decompile of complete bundle structure.
* Compile directly to any file.
* Support of application document icons.
* Automatically uses aproppiate resource IDs for cdevs.
* Complete version data editing.
* Complete 'vers'-resource editing.
* Automatic updating of Desktop file.
* Default mask generation.
* Online short manual for quick help.
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/iconia-70.hqx; 92K]
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 05:50 EDT
From: "John L. Jamison x8508" <JAMISON@campus.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Initializing appletalk-ip routing using K-star/Kinetics
I have a user who needs to do an application layer network program to
communicate between an IBM PC and an Apollo (HP?) Unix machine. He'll be using
TCP/IP embedded within AppleTalk from an IBM-PC with a LocalTalk PC card to a
Unix host using TCP/IP. The LocalTalk segment is connected to Ethernet using a
Kinetics FastPath with KSTAR routing configured.
Unfortunately he has no programmer's interface to AppleTalk or TCP/IP for the
PC and handle the protocol himself. In fact, this is more or less the point
of his Engineering project- to make the interface himself. (please no replies
like "why the hell does he want to do this" :-) )
Has anyone done this? Anybody out there know how to do any of the
following:
(1) Initialize the IP routing of the FastPath- he'll be using a "static
address" and must presumeably communicate with the FastPath II (FPII) so
that it does IP routing for this appletalk node machine.
(2) embed the IP packets within AppleTalk packets for net sends.
(3) strip away IP packets from AppleTalk packets received.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Jamison
System and Network Manager
Swarthmore College
Swarthmore, PA 19081
jamison@campus.swarthmore.edu
jamison@swarthmr.bitnet
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 12:36 MET
From: Ed van Zon <V_ZON%AGRD04%HWALHW50.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Jasmine cdev problem with MultiFinder
Hello Netlanders,
Recently I purchased a Jasmine DirectDrive 100, and divided the disk into
four partitions using the Jasmine software that comes with the drive. I
arranged things so that two partitions are mounted automatically at startup,
the other two must be mounted manually before they can be accessed.
But strange things are happening when I use Jasmine's Control Panel device v1.2
under MultiFinder to mount the partitions. The moment the Finder displays
the icon of the newly mounted partition, the Control Panel window disappears
and everything freezes (even the interrupt button doesn't respond). Restarting
is the only way to continue.
It doesn't happen always; the first two weeks it didn't happen at all, but
the problem seems to appear more frequently as time passes. Right now, it
almost certainly goes wrong.
There is no problem when using Jasmine's Driveware application, or when
I startup with the Finder. Removing all other INIT's doesn't help one
bit, so the problem narrows down to the interaction of the Jasmine cdev/INIT
with MultiFinder. (I'm using System release 6.02.)
Since I like to use MultiFinder and it would be very convenient to manage
my partitions from the Control Panel, I would appreciate any suggestions
to eliminate the problem. I would also like to hear if any of you encountered
the same problem, or had no problem at all.
Thanks in advance,
Ed van Zon
Wageningen, Netherlands.
E-mail to: V_ZON%AGRD04@HWALHW50.BITNET
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 89 22:46:13 ADT
From: Peter J Gergely <GERGELY@[192.12.62.20]>
Subject: Macs and Ham Radio
Since the mail on Ham Radio and the Macintosh seems to have subsided, I
would like to submit a 'Personal Digest' of all the mail that was
received. Included below is the digest of all the ham radio and the
macintosh messages that were received.
Peter J. Gergely
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Gergely's Personal Digest (4/28/89 10:47:20)
Responses to information on Ham radio and the Macintosh
Today's Topics:
get on list
The Mac and amateur radio
Re: Ham Radio and the Macintosh
Mac's and Ham Radio
ham radio and mac
Re: Ham Radio and the Macintoshes
Possible Mailing lists of interest
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/macs-and-ham-radio.txt; 16K]
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 89 02:17:12 EDT
From: Loring Holden <hold_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Subject: my sounds
Since I have gotten so much use out of the Sumex archives, I thought I would
try to give something back in return. Below is a list of sounds that I have
(over 200 sounds totalling about 15 meg). If you are interested in getting any
please send me the name of the sound you want and the disk it is on...
Also what prompted me to send this offer is that a friend at another site wants
some of my sounds, and I thought it would be better to send them to Sumex for
everyone to enjoy rather than just to him. The sounds are samples of the
Phonemail anwsering service on the Rolm PBX system. Here and at Columbia Rolm
is used, and I'm sure that other schools use it as well..
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/lorings-sounds.txt; 17K]
[We will archive the most popular sounds here on sumex, so be sure to send
Loring your votes. -Bill]
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Date: Mon, 1 May 89 8:37:40 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Need help installing Facade INIT
To use Facade, you do have to hack resources. But not in the system file.
Open Facade w/ RedEdit. Change the names of the various ICONs (or ICNs, I
forget which) to match the names of your various hard disk partitions and
floppy disk names. Then reboot and those disk will have those names!
tom c
Bill the Cat sez: "Remember. If some weirdo in a blue suit
offers you some MS-DOS. JUST SAY NO!"
ARPA: tcora@pica.army.mil UUCP:...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!tcora
-or- tcora@ardec.arpa BITNET: Tcora@DACTH01.BITNET
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Date: 30 Apr 89 11:20 -0500
From: Darren R Besler <dbesler@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: UUCP for Mac
Does anyone know about a program for the Mac that allows uucp file transfers
and uucp mail transfers with Unix machines?
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