Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (05/17/89)
Info-Mac Digest Tue, 16 May 89 Volume 7 : Issue 89
Today's Topics:
6.0.3
Allegro CL Object System
Apple-Addresses, updated
How to Modify the LW Test Sheet Info??
icons for Absoft's MacFortran 2.4
Info-Mac Digest V7 #80
Info on statistical programs needed
LAN Mail
MacBinary 1.0.1 is free
One more Finder enhancement request
Postscript(R) files....
Reading Program Help?
Three wishes
topsTerm on MAC SE
WARNING! Possible INIT conflict with Suitcase II 1.2.3
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Date: 16-MAY-1989 15:08:51 GMT
From: AEIC0456%VAX1.CENTRE.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: 6.0.3
In issue 87 CB Lih asked whether models other than the II(c)x and SE/30
should be upgraded to System 6.0.3. I've had 6.0.3 on a Mac plus for
nearly a month now - lots of staff have been using it to run applications
such as Draw, Word, Cricket Graph etc. with no problems. I installed it to
keep all machines consistent but I noticed that James Li in issue 75 (4D
crashes ...) reported an undocumented bug in System 6.0.2.
The business about the Excel files not opening when double clicked may
be fixed with ResEdit if the problem is that the creator is not 'XCEL' -
just select the file from within ResEdit, then GET INFO about it and type
XCEL in the creator box.
By the way anybody know of a decent guide to ResEdit on the Net. Like most
things on the Mac you can teach yourself so much but a bit of background
on this particular program would be welcome. Or is there no alternative than
to digesting the Inside Mac Volumes.
George Munroe, Queen's University Belfast
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 13:44 EST
From: GODDEN@gmr.com
Subject: Allegro CL Object System
I just got Allegro CL for an SE/30. It states in the Allegro manual
that their OOP system is not optimized and they specifically do not
recommend its use for serious development. On the positive side, the
manual also states that in the future they will be converting their
OOPS to CLOS, but no indication when that might be. Of course, you
could always write your own OOPS inside Allegro...
Incidentally, I'm in the process of running the Gabriel Common Lisp
benchmarks in Allegro on my SE/30. When I finish, I can prepare a
summary and submit to the net. At this point having run only a
half-dozen of the benchmarks, it appears that the 68030-based Mac's
perform *approximately* like a VAX 750 running CL. However, there is
MUCH variation. Interestingly, the SE/30 outperforms a Symbolics
3640 by a factor of three on my own benchmark of a tree-recursive,
tail recursive version of Fibonacci (because the Allegro compiler
changes tail-resursion to a jump, while Symbolics retains the function
call (misc reasons for doing so)). Of course, I don't mean to imply
that an SE/30 running Allegro comes anywhere near ANY Symbolics machine
for Lisp hacking.
-Kurt Godden
godden@gmr.com
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Date: Mon, 15 May 89 20:30:30 CDT
From: B645ZAX@utarlg.arl.utexas.edu
Subject: Apple-Addresses, updated
Here is a newly (5/13/89) corrected version of the file
info-mac/misc/apple-addresses.txt. For those who have already downloaded the
file, the only signifigant change is a way to access Applelink through
Bitnet. This is for those people who do not have Internet/ftp access, but
can activate the shadow archives at RICE.BITNET and elsewhere.
Applelink can be reached by sending mail
TO: XB.DAS@STANFORD
SUBJECT:{applelink address}@APPLELINK!real-subject-goes-here
-David Richardson, The University of Texas at Arlington
Bitnet: b645zax@utarlg Internet: b645zax@utarlg.arl.utexas.edu
UUCP: ...!{ames,sun,texbell, <backbone>}!utarlg.arl.utexas.edu!b645zax
SPAN: ...::UTSPAN::UTADNX::UTARLG::B645ZAX PhoNet: +1 817 461 4799
USMail: 1904 Silverleaf Drive, Arlington, TX 76013
[Archived as /info-mac/misc/apple-addresses.txt; 3K]
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 15:21 EDT
From: <ELJAZZAR%UTKVX3.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: How to Modify the LW Test Sheet Info??
Is there any way to customize the LaserWriter Plus' test sheet other
than using The Namer?
What I am trying to do is have the printer's name printed in smaller
size so that I can fit more information in that field (LW #, Date,
etc.) It would be even better if the name field it could be modified
to print more than one line.
Thanks..
Mohamad El Jazzar
UT Computing Center
Knoxville, Tenn.
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Date: 16 May 89, 01:38:35 CST
From: Robert J.Brenstein 453-6418 GA0095@siucvmb (618)
Subject: icons for Absoft's MacFortran 2.4
The following is binhexed and stuffed file which replaces generic icons
of MacFortran files. Installation information is enclosed as well.
This submission is a modification/improvement of the present absoft-
fortran-icons entry in the macserve archive. Its freeware.
[Archived as /info-mac/lang/absoft-macfortran-icons.hqx; 6K]
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Date: Mon, 15 May 89 18:49:28 EDT
From: Paul Placeway <paul@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #80
In Info-Mac #80, CES00661%UDACSVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes:
Date: Wed, 03 May 89 07:42:56 EDT
From: CES00661%UDACSVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Kermit problem
In Info-Mac #79 <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
(Peter Jorgensen - Micro Specialist) writes:
>> I'm having trouble getting 8bit characters transferred from one system
>> to my Mac II using Kermit 0.9(40). I have tried about everything, and
>> have come to the conclusion that for some reason Eighth-bit prefixing
>> is not being recognized by Kermit on the Mac, but it is being
>> performed by the sending Kermit. I have tried changing parity,
>> setting Mac Kermit to TEXT and Binary file types, etc. The Kermit
>> documentation states that Macintosh Kermit does support 8th-bit
>> prefixing.
I have had exactly that problem and found a detour and another problem in
the process. The detour is to start up Kermit on your Mac. This is
important since this works only once (!). Make your connection/whatever
but before starting a transfer pull down the file settings box and make
BINARY and DATA fork the defaults. Start the transfer and if the other end
is set up to send binary it should work. BUT, the first time only. If you
want another file start over from the top (restart Mac Kermit). (I also
always use even parity, but I have to since I'm talking to an IBM mainframe
for most of these transfers).
In coming to this method of making it work, I also found that once you
have transferred a binary file this way, you can't go back and then do a
normal text file either. Luckily most of my file transfers are non- binary
8-)
BTW, this ritual seems to always work. What got confusing was that once
in a while I could get a second or third binary file to work. But it just
wasn't reliable (50% or less) so now I stick with the simple but working
incantation I just described.
(Sorry about the delay, I was catching up with other news...)
Between all of the people who work on C-kermit of various flavors, we
think we have this finally licked. I have tried changing all sorts of
things back and forth, switching Text and Binary, parity, etc. on both
sides and haven't had this happen in the new version.
The next version of Mac Kermit should be ready for beta testing in
about a week. If you are interested in beta testing the new Mac
Kermit, and on the internet, and *promise* not to upload the beta copy
to a BBS, send me mail.
-- Paul Placeway
paul@cis.ohio-state.edu
(Mac Kermit coord.)
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 10:08 N
From: <KRAALING%HWALHW50.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info on statistical programs needed
Dear Net,
We are looking for a statistical program to do:
1) simple statistics such as mean, st. dev. median, percentiles,
correlation etc.
2) t-test, linear regression, fitting of user defined functions,
3) anova, split-plot etc,
4) basic non-parametric tests,
5) good graphing and reporting facilities,
I have seen a demo of StatView (1.0) which seems to meet our requirements.
Questions:
Is StatView still the one to go for or are there better programs ?
Any information is greatly appreciated.
Daniel van Kraalingen
Department of Theoretical Production Ecology
Agricultural University of Wageningen
The Netherlands
kraalingen@hwalhw50.bitnet
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 10:43:28 EDT
From: David_S._Allan@ub.cc.umich.edu
Subject: LAN Mail
I am setting up a small LAN consisting of about a dozen Macs and half
a dozen PC's. We will be running AppleShare on an SE. I am now looking
for the best mail program to install.
What are the comments of folks on the net regarding your experiences with
InBox, QuickMail, and Microsoft Mail? Have you used any other mail
programs? How easy are they to use (for non-computer types) and to
administer? How well will it work in a larger net, say 100 nodes?
You are welcome to reply directly to me or to the net. I will summarize
to the net after I collate the responses.
Thanks!
David_Allan@ub.cc.umich.edu
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Date: Mon, 15 May 89 17:03 EDT
From: Greg Smith <SMITH%BKNLVMS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MacBinary 1.0.1 is free
Tom Blake asks:
> Is MacBinary Free? BinHex 5.0 is Shareware.
Yes, MacBinary is FreeWare.
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Date: Mon, 15 May 89 22:24 EDT
From: Ross Scott Rubin <DB8Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: One more Finder enhancement request
While I'm Finder-bashing, how about an INIT or patch which will MOVE files
>From volume to volume. Manual deletion is a royal pain, Option-drag would
be a pretty obvious choice.
Thanks again.
Ross Scott Rubin Cornell University
Bitnet: DB8Y@CRNLVAX5
Internet: DB8Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
CompuServe: 72137,2627
"I used to be disgusted but now I try to be amused." --Elvis Costello
DISCLAIMER: Is a lot better than dat claimer.
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 14:22:25 EDT
From: dmg@mitre.mitre.org
Subject: Postscript(R) files....
Two questions regarding the creation and use of Postscript(R) files.
1 -- How does one create a Postscript(R) file from the Print dialog box. I
recall this is possible, but I don't remember the procedure.
2 -- Is there a Public Domain or Shareware utility to download Postscript(R)
files to a Laserwriter?
David Gursky
Member of the Technical Staff, W-143
Special Projects Department
The MITRE Corporation
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Date: Mon, 15 May 89 22:19:58 CST
From: Phys300%UNLCDC3.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Reading Program Help?
I am going to try teaching my son to read using the techniques
discussed in the WRITING TO READ book by Martin and Friedberg. They
developed a method under the sponsorship of IBM. Not surprisingly
they use IBM computers. From the description of the software in
the book, I think I can duplicate what they do without too much
difficulty using Hypercard.
But before I reinvent the wheel, I thought it wise to ask the
net if anyone knows of a reading/writing program available for the
Macintosh. Any pointers will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Glenn Sowell PHYS300@UNLCDC.BITNET
Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
University of Nebraska
Lincoln, NE 68588-0111
(402) 472-6602
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Date: Mon, 15 May 89 22:18 EDT
From: Ross Scott Rubin <DB8Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: Three wishes
1) The Finder is where we're supposed to be able to manipulate files, right?
So why must I enter something like DiskTop while in the Finder merely to
change a file's creator? If someone is looking for a programming project, how
about an INIT that changes the Get Info boxes to display editable Finder file
attributes.
2) If INIT writing isn't your thing, could anyone cook up an application that
could change en masse creators, for instance, find all files of type TEXT and
make the creator nX^n (WriteNow) or MWII (MacWrite II), for instance?
3) In the wholly unrelated dept., could anyone post or mail me a MacPaint or
OpenIt file that displays all the current Adobe fonts at 24 point including
their number?
Thank you very much.
Ross Scott Rubin Cornell University
Bitnet: DB8Y@CRNLVAX5
Internet: DB8Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
CompuServe: 72137,2627
"I used to be disgusted but now I try to be amused." --Elvis Costello
DISCLAIMER: Is a lot better than dat claimer.
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 07:39:36 CDT
From: Eddie Mikell <eddie@cc.msstate.edu>
Subject: topsTerm on MAC SE
I am experiencing a problem running topsTerm on a MAC SE and would
like to know if anyone else has run into this problem.
I am using a MAC SE with a Kinetics Etherport SE board installed. I have
downloaded the software, decoded and unstuffed it, placed the files in the
folders that are recommended, and rebooted the system.
After the system boots, I get the "TCP/IP NOT CONFIGURED" menu, as expected
since I do not have KIP installed on the network. I select the "CONFIGURE
BY HAND" option, and enter my internet address. The system crashes with
a system error of 2, and will continue to crash until I remove the
TCP/IP memory file from the system folder.
I have tried the software with a barebones system file, but get the
same crashes.
Any suggestions? (In case you wish to experiment with topsTerm, it is
available from orstcs.cs.orst.edu under the directory pub/topsTerm).
Thanks,
Eddie Mikell
Mississippi State University
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Date: Tue, 16 May 89 10:25:12 PDT
From: TOLLIVER%ATF.MFENET@ccc.mfecc.llnl.gov
Subject: WARNING! Possible INIT conflict with Suitcase II 1.2.3
I have discovered a possible INIT conflict with the new Suitcase II 1.2.3 and
others (but I'm not sure which others). I downloaded and applied the 1.2.3
updater without problems. However, when I replaced the old Suitcase II 1.2.2
with the new 1.2.3, I could no longer boot. In the interest of possibly
saving others some trouble, here, in approximate chronological order, is what
happened and what I did about it.
Sometime after all of my many INITs loaded but before the desktop appeared
and my start-up application had begun, the Mac would crash (into MacsBug).
Returning to Suitcase II 1.2.2 fixed the problem. Configuration is Mac II, 5
Mb, System 6.0.2, Multifinder, a whole host of INITs and cdevs, some
freebie's and some commercial. For the curious, I found a number of possible
cures and INIT conflicts. One was to remove SUM's HD Partition INIT. Another
was to use "init cdev", holding down the space bar to get the list of INITs
to allow, and disallow HD Partition INIT. No surprise there. But another
solution was to simply start up with "init cdev" and allow *EVERYTHING*,
including HD Partition INIT, to be used. NO CRASH!!. But only when using the
space bar to get the list and choosing everything could I boot. That is, NOT
when just ignoring "init cdev" and letting it use the default, which was
everything. But who wants to hold down the space bar everytime they boot up.
So is it Suitcase II 1.2.3, HD Partition INIT, or "init cdev"? Well, taking
"init cdev" out of the System Folder did not help matters. Just made it hard
to boot at all since I could no longer easily disable HD Partition INIT or
Suitcase II or anybody else. Had to boot from a floppy.
Alternatively I could hold down SHIFT to disable Suitcase II, with or without
HD Partition INIT, and...no crash!
Or I could hold down the COMMAND key todisable Multifinder...no crash.
Or I could Set Startup to Finder instead of Multifinder...no crash. (Not the
same as holding down COMMAND since COMMAND also disables some INITs as well.)
Disabling the start-up application under MultiFinder did not help.
So the crash occurs under the following circumstances: MultiFinder active, HD
Partition INIT active, Suitcase II 1.2.3 active, "init cdev" active but not
in "interactive mode", and lots of other INITs active. It seems that "init
cdev", when in "interactive" mode somehow sets a bit somewhere, initializes
some globals, or *something* that prevents the conflict that would otherwise
later occur.
I tried removing a few other INITs, but without "init cdev" to make it
slightly less painful, I did not have the patience to try many. Most made no
difference. Just as I was ready to permanently go back to Suitcase II 1.2.2
(the bug fixes to 1.2.3 shouldn't affect me anyway), I discovered one other
solution--remove the RWatcher anti-virus INIT. It has been effectively
superseeded by GateKeeper anyway. So now I'm back to my old setup, HD
Partition INIT and all. Now who do I blame it on? RWatcher, Suitcase II, HD
Partition INIT, all of the above, others...?
I doubt that anyone really knows what happened. But if anyone has any
insights or similar experiences with Suitcase II 1.2.3, I would appreciate
hearing them. And if I save someone else some trouble with the updated
Suitcase II, then it will have been worth my trouble to type all this in.
John Tolliver (Tolliver%atf.mfenet@nmfecc.llnl.gov)
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