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Info-Mac Digest Sun, 25 Jun 89 Volume 7 : Issue 112 Today's Topics: CAD Program for Boat Design Color XCMD? help with "xxx.Z" files Hiding LaserWriters on LocalTalk Introduction Neuro-net Stackware program support Sargon IV bugs Screen Save program (to avoid updates) Search/find functions of Hypercard SmallTalk/V (Mac) Spellchecker questions Spontaneously-rebooting Mac Your Info-Mac Moderators are Lance Nakata, Jon Pugh, and Bill Lipa. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jun 89 19:15 CDT From: "Sandro Corsi, Univ.of WI-Oshkosh" <CORSI@oshkosh.wisc.edu> Subject: CAD Program for Boat Design >From: Matthew Wall <WALL%brandeis.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu>: > I have a friend who's new to computing and wants to buy a Mac. He's setting > up his own business designing and building small sailboats. He's certain he > heard of an excellent CAD program for the Mac that's specifically for boat > design. It's called MacSurf (no kiddin'!). It's put out by: Graphic Magic, Ltd. P.O.Box 185 Cottesloe 6011 Perth, Western Australia ph. 011-61-9-383-2114 Un-claimer: I've never even seen the stuff. I'm just quoting from the Winter'89 issue of the "Macintosh Buyer's Guide" -- the reason why you couldn't find it is that it is listed under "Architecture" (as in "Naval Architecture"!!! -- it figures, doesn't it? ;-). BTW -- before your friend gets on the phone long distance with DownUnder, you might want to mention that the U.S. list price is a cool $4,500. The [many] add-on modules are about half a grand apiece. Sandro Corsi Art Dept. Univ. of Wisconsin - Oshkosh Oshkosh, WI 54901 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 89 17:20:27 -0900 From: DANIEL K LASOTA <FTDKL%ALASKA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Color XCMD? Hi everyone, I am looking for a HyperCard XCMD that would let one call up color displays outside of the HyperCard window. Also is there anyhting available that would allow a sequence of color picts to be shown in succession so as to allow animation? I know that there is such an XCMD for black and white picts but I really need one for color. Thanks, Dan LaSota FTDKL@ALASKA Duna nuna nuna .... BATMAN! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 89 22:02:03 +0200 From: Sigurd Meldal <sigurd@eik.ii.uib.no> Subject: help with "xxx.Z" files The xxx.Z files are the result of compression using the Lempel-Ziv compression algorithm, usually output from the "compress" utility on UNIX systems. In order to get the contents back to their original shape, you have to uncompress on a UNIX host, or use the "compress" utility program (available from the info-mac archives as util/maccompress-32.hqx, I believe). The result can be untar'ed (if it is a tar file) or handled in the otherwise appropriate manner. Note that the xxx.Z files are binary, and ftp has to be in the appropriate mode. -- Sigurd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 89 22:40 EDT From: CHGARNETT%AMHERST.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu Subject: Hiding LaserWriters on LocalTalk I just installed some Macs for student use here at Amherst, and have run into a problem. Students laserprint here by creating postscript files and transferring them to our VAX where they get queued to a PrintServer 40. All the new Macs are connected to an existing LocalTalk network in our staff offices, so they can use our FastPath box to get decent transfer speeds for the postscript files. We have a LaserWriter in our office, too, and that's the problem. The problem is: The LaserWriter in the office shows up in the chooser, so people who don't hold down Command-F at the right time are tying up the "internal use only" LaserWriter. They don't ever see their printouts, either! (*grin*) So, the question: Does anyone know anything about hiding devices on the LocalTalk network so they can only be seen from certain nodes, or visa-versa? We could always buy another FastPath box and configure them so they don't pass LocalTalk packets back and forth, but that's a pricey solution. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks! *************************************************************************** * Craig Garnett * E-Mail: CHGARNET@AMHERST (bitnet) * * Micro Specialist (yeah, right) * S-Mail: Box 2240, Amherst College * * Amherst College * Amherst, MA 01002 * * * Phone: (413)542-2526 * *************************************************************************** * "They can put a PS/2 in my office, * * but they can't make me use it." * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 89 16:22 CDT From: Dan Miser <MISER@macc.wisc.edu> Subject: Introduction Hello, I have just finished the first version of Combiner, the utility for text file concatenation. This program will strip headers and footers off of a file and paste the files together. Perfectly ready for using binhex. I would appreciate any comments or bugs sent to me. This program is free-ware. There should be a new version in mid-July to improve the speed issue, but this is just something to get people going, since there have been numerous requests for a program like this. Disclaimer:The author makes no warranties whatsoever, of any kind!! Use at your own risk after testing on trivial data. Binary (stuffed and binhexed) follows. ****************************************************************** ** Dan Miser Phone: (608) 262-0282 ** ** 1210 W. Dayton Madison, WI 53706 ** ** Internet: miser@vms3.macc.wisc.edu Bitnet: miser@wiscmacc ** ****************************************************************** [Archived as /info-mac/util/combiner.hqx; 22K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 89 18:47 EST From: <SEIFFER%IUBACS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Neuro-net Stackware I have been trying to locate a Neuro-Network stack. I thought that I had seen one once somewhere. However, I have looked through the public domain servers here at IU and through the Info-mac archives as well as a few other archives. I haven't seen it anywhere. Am I just imagining things or has someone really created such a beast in Hypercard? The one I'm thinking of actually allowed the user to build a small network and could watch it run. Could anyone out there point me in the right direction? If I can't find a stack, some other program that might be useful for assiting instruction in the development of neuro-nets (connectionist networks) would work as well. Thanks in advance. Kurt A. Seiffert IUB - UCS seiffer@iubacs.ind.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 89 16:23:48 EDT From: Oliver Steele <steele@cs.unc.edu> Subject: program support I've entered several programs into the info-mac archives at sumex, and I thought I'd keep people up to date on them. I've also received several requests of similar natures, and wanted to let people know what I was doing about them. Programs are described below by where they occur on sumex; the names of the programs are pretty close to the part after the '/'. app/sphere-demo: People want source code. I'll mail the sphere drawing routines to anyone who wants them, and I'll post them after I comment them. I'll probably post all of the source as soon as I get a chance to make it readable. Sorry; I don't want to spend the time to make it a screen idler. app/tile, app/truchet: I'll clean up my source code and post it, if anyone's interested. Anyone want to combine tilings and cellular automata? cdev/dragger: Yes, I'm working on color. No, the next version won't flicker as much. Yes, I know it bombs under VersaTerm. No, you can't have source code (yet) (I know, I'm unreasonable). And there's a display bug that can show up if you have two monitors. I'm working on all of these, and should have the gleaming version 2.0 out in something over two weeks. init/buttons: The two comments about "Oliver's Buttons" are "I want source code!", and "I like them all except the push button. Can you give me the old push button back, but let me keep the others?" I'll post source code, and add an option for a Classic Push-button. util/menuedit-11: 1.1 is still the latest version. (Well, there's a 1.2 that I sold a (nonexclusive) license for to UpTime magazine and that a few user groups might have, but there aren't any substantial differences that I can think of). Right now I'm not doing any work on it, but that's still possible. If I decide not to work on it I'll post the source and let the net take it over. This partly depends on how good ResEdit gets and how good ResMenu has gotten (I haven't looked at it lately), because the only extensions I want to make will make it nicer for programmers and ResEdit and ResMenu already address their needs, and everything a non-programmer would want to do with MenuEdit, I think it does pretty well already. Known bug: if you change a single-character menu item (like -), it can mess up your menu. But you'll see that this has happened immediately, and can do a "Revert". app/menu-madness, demo/picture-menu: Basically toys, more for giving people ideas about ways to do things than for anything else. I don't have any plans for these. The other reason for posting is to announce my new address, for anyone who has questions, comments, or suggestions about any of the above (or about anything else). I'm moving to California, and will presumably be reachable as steele@apple.com after about a week. steele@cs.unc.edu will probably go away after a little while. The post office and my parents will forward from my USNAIL address of 1209 Mason Farm Rd., Chapel Hill, NC 27514, indefinitely, and I don't know when I'll have a permanant CA address, so that's the Post Offal way to reach me. For what should be obvious reasons, I won't be doing much in the way of posting or mailing source code or answering letters for at least a week. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oliver Steele ...!decnet!mcnc!unc!steele UNC-CH Linguistics steele@cs.unc.edu and after Sunday: Apple Computer, Inc. steele@apple.com? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 89 11:17:04 EDT From: Michael_Webb@ub.cc.umich.edu Subject: Sargon IV bugs Moderator, please post this for me. The other day, I posted a little report of bugs in Sargon IV. I called the very helpful people at MacConnection, and they promised to send me a new one, as they thought that I must have gotten a bad disk. It turns out that the whole lot of disks they got from Spinnaker was bad, so they will get some new good ones in a reasonable time frame. The service at MacConnection is great! I wouldn't treat this as a dig to Spinnaker. Maybe their quality control was bad, or more probable, something happened in shipment. The Sargon IV program is very well done, and it plays excellent chess (after all, it never makes a mistake like most people do--to beat it you have to play mistake free and be smart as well). The documentation could be updated, but it is nevertheless excellent. I haven't been in contact with the people at Spinnaker on this, so I don't know what their response is. I'm sure there is a logical explanation. I recommend Sargon IV. --------------------------------------------------------- | | | Michael Webb | | user6lnu@ub.cc.umich.edu | | University of Michigan Physics Department | | | --------------------------------------------------------- Ubiquitous disclaimer: I'm just a physics droog, even the lasers don't listen to me. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 89 17:06:29 EDT From: sterritt%sdevax.decnet@crdgw1.ge.com (Chris Sterritt -- 354-4862 or 8*747-4862) Subject: Screen Save program (to avoid updates) Hello, Doing a little recent archaeological work (that is, cleaning off my desk) I ran across a photo-copied page from an April, 1986 Byte magazine with a neat hack in it. It's a set of calls, one function and one procedure, that save the screen in an off-screen area, then restore it, so that no update events happen. The main purpose of this is to be able to put up dialog boxes, etc., without having to redraw your screen when they go away. Much of what it does is clever, and is PROBABLY correct, but some of what it does (for example, always assuming that the menu bar is 20 pixels high -- anyone know how to find this out?) seems dangerous, so use at your own risk. I've included a test program, and the Think pascal project necessary to run it, so you alternate-compiler types can just ignore that file. Enjoy, good luck! -- chris s. ==================================================================== == Chris Sterritt --- sterritt%sdevax.decnet@crd.ge.com == == Disclaimer/Quote: == == "And this song can't be sued/I assume..." --- T. Tikaram == ==================================================================== [Archived as /info-mac/source/pascal/screen-saving-routines.hqx; 22K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 89 19:53 MDT From: Keenan%UNCAMULT.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Search/find functions of Hypercard Does anybody know of any tools (e.g. freeware) to speed up the search/find functions of HyperCard? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jun 89 17:10:16 EDT From: sterritt%sdevax.decnet@crdgw1.ge.com (Chris Sterritt -- 354-4862 or 8*747-4862) Subject: SmallTalk/V (Mac) Hello, I was wondering if someone (anyone!) who has tried the SmallTalk/V for the Mac could send me info about it. I'm thinking of getting it, and would appreciate email about the product. A few easy questions: Does it support multiple inheritance? Does it produce standalone applications? Does it compile, or interpret, or some combination? (Is its code fast?) Also, if anyone has used Apple's Smalltalk, I'd appreciate hearing >From you as well. Of course, if you've used both and can compare/contrast, I'd be overjoyed (well, almost :-). I'll collect replies (email please!) and summarize to the net. thanks very much in advance, chris s. ==================================================================== == Chris Sterritt --- sterritt%sdevax.decnet@crd.ge.com == == Disclaimer/Quote: == == "And this song can't be sued/I assume..." --- T. Tikaram == ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jun 89 12:08:15 PST From: greydog@pro-ldm.cts.com (Steve Ebener) Subject: Spellchecker questions *Don Daybell asks. *I am looking for a spellchecker that I can use while in an application, *rather than having to quit and do a seperate spellcheck. Are there any *such programs, and if so, which ones are the best. (Perhaps a DA?) *Noshir Contractor asks *Hi. Does anyone know of a spell-checker that works within Hypercard? *My goals is to cleanse any typos before circulating stuff entered in the *stacks. To both of these questions, my answer is to use Spelling Coach Pro. (I'm using it now.) I find that it will work in any application, including HyperCard. (Although you have to change the command key codes to use it effectively in HyperCard.) The main draw backs of "Coach" is that it is NOT shareware, it's somewhat expensive ($105 mail order), It must run off a HD (to use it's full capabilities-- full definitions.), and it's large (It came on four 800k floppies.) Other than the things mentioned above, I have found that Coach is probably one of the best spell checkers around. Oh, and it works as a DA. This is my opinion only. I don't work for them, I only use it. (Every day.) Steve Ebener Eugene, Oregon ^<*~*Greydog*~*>^ UCCP: crash!pnet01!pro-ldm!greydog INET: greydog@pro-ldm.cts.com ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-ldm!greydog@.nosc.mil ProLine: greydog@pro-ldm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jun 89 22:00:07 PDT From: dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) Subject: Spontaneously-rebooting Mac Spontaneous reboots may be a sign that your Mac's power supply is either ill, or misadjusted. One way to check this would be to use a good voltmeter (preferably an analog meter) to monitor the +5 voltage at one of the external access points... say, on the output-handshaking pin on one of the Mac's serial ports. If the voltage is more than about a tenth of a volt more or less than 5 volts, or if it jumps up or down when the machine reboots, then the power supply needs attention. A power supply that's adjusted too low, or too high, can be adjusted by a competent technician (one with Mac experience, of course). I believe I remember reading that the power supply in the Plus contains an overvoltage-protection circuit, which "crowbars" the +5 (shorts it to ground) if the voltage rises too high. This protects the Mac's circuitry, but causes the Mac to reset. This _might_ be what you're seeing. ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************