[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V7 #145

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (08/19/89)

Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 18 Aug 89       Volume 7 : Issue 145 

Today's Topics:
                     Anonymous FTP and SIT files
                              Appleshare
                      Appleshare security files
                Auto-Hiding Windows under MultiFinder
                          Composition Forums
                  Dove/PC 5.25 drive incompatiblity?
                            HardPack Query
                          HELP| Fastback 1.3
                             Hot Monitor
                       HyperText Tools for Mac
                       Info-Mac Digest V7 #144
                        John Sculley's Address
                      John ScullEy's Address...
                     John Sculley's email address
                             MacMakeIndex
                    Medical Dictionary for MS Word
                     Multifinder and the menubar
                             NetHack 2.3
                 Public Domain Midi Player for Casio
                            Reverse Video
                            Server Speeds?
                           Word 4 questions

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 89 12:37:49 +0200
From: Ingemar Ragnemalm <ingemar@isy.liu.se>
Subject: Anonymous FTP and SIT files

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>I have been having a problem with files that I ftp'ed from another site.
>The files are stored in StuffIt! format.  The problem is that I do not have
>direct internet access and so must use FTP on the IBM mainframes here, then
>Kermit the files over to the Mac.  This roundabout approach works fine for
>files that have been BinHex'ed, but not for these SIT! files.  Does anyone
>know the proper procedure for downloading binary files (I tried telling FTP
>the files were binary, but that only got them as far as the IBM system)?
>If so, could you please explain it to a mere mortal?
>TIA,
>                             < Bob : S090726@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU : Funchess >

I've had the same problem, and here is my solution:
As you said, binhex'ed files are all right. Just take them over as text.
Some archives store the files in binary format, either as SIT!-files or
other formats. Download them in binary mode to your mainframe (we use
Suns). Then, download them to the Mac using a MacBinary compatible
program. I use kermit in binary mode on the Sun and MacKermit0.97 (which
happens to be a nice terminal emulator as well) in MacBinary mode on the Mac.

I hope this helps. It *should* help, really.

Ingemar Ragnemalm
--
Dept. of Electrical Engineering	     ...!uunet!mcvax!enea!rainier!ingemar
                  ..
University of Linkoping, Sweden	     ingemar@isy.liu.se

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 13:49:59 PDT
From: PUGH@ccc.mfecc.llnl.gov
Subject: Appleshare

I just installed Appleshare.  Did I do something wrong or is Appleshare intent 
on calling InitWindows at INIT time?  It's kind of disturbing to have my 
StartupScreen vanish at startup.  Any fixes or ideas?

Jon

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Date: 17 Aug 89 16:20:03 GMT
From: Scott Truesdell <truesdel@ics.uci.edu>
Subject: Appleshare security files

alon sharafi <VSALON%WEIZMANN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:

>We need to backup 600 megabyte server disk on our mackintosh.
>Our tape drive uses 60 Mbyte tapes, so a full backup takes 10 tapes.
>We would prefer to perform daily incremental backups, and not full backups.
>However we do not know how to backup the appleshare security file(s)
>because we cannot locate it (them) on the disk.
>For this reason we are forced into full disk backups (mirror image)
>because only this way we can make sure that these security files are
>included.

Talk to the Zulch brothers at Dantz Software Developement (sorry, no 
number) about Retrospect, their new tape archiving product. I seem to
remember that it will do everything you want.

  --scott

--
Scott Truesdell

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 12:13:48 PDT
From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Auto-Hiding Windows under MultiFinder

This feature is provided with the "Application Selector" that is part of
the commercial program "MasterJuggler" from Alsoft.  Once you have this 
product, it's hard to live without it.  It's well worth the price.

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 10:53:14 PLT
From: Paul Brians <HRC$04%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Composition Forums

Does anyone know of a forum in which teachers of English composition
and related fields can discuss the use of computer labs (specifically
Macintosh labs) for education?  Anything available through BitNet,
Tymnet, or CompuServe would be great.

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 11:52 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen - Micro Specialist)
Subject: Dove/PC 5.25 drive incompatiblity?

Does anyone out there know whether a Dove MacSnap 2S (piggyback simm) upgrade
is NOT compatible with the Apple PC 5.25 drive/SE bus card?  I'm having a hard
time believing that that is why Apple File Exchange crashes while opening
(ID10) when an MS-DOS diskette is in the drive.  It doesn't crash if the PC
drive is empty, but it can't read good MS-DOS diskettes [is that a
contradiction in terms? :)]  I've replaced the Software, and the system (6.0.2)
and removed ALL INITs.  The SE Bus card has been replaced, and we've switched
drives.  The machine also has a Kodak DataShow adapter installed.

Any ideas?

Thanks for you help.

Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 15:34:55 EDT
From: Matthew Quagliana <QUAG%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HardPack Query

Has anyone ever seen or used a hard drive for the Mac called
"The Hard Pack?" It is intended to be very portable: it weighs about
two pounds and draws its power from the Mac, thus eliminating the
power supply and fan.

Some people (phone techs at mail order houses) have told me that it
plugs into the floppy port, others have said that it plugs into the SCSI
port.  If the former is true, then it is incompatible with MacIIs, which
are the power machines of choice where I am. If the latter (SCSI port) is
true, then how does it draw power? (Isn't the SCSI a pure data bus?)

The HardPack is made by Aristotle, a Canadian company. My intial call
only got me as far as a "tech-less" secretary, who took my name and number.
At this point unbiased testimony would be very useful. MacWorld included
the HardPack in their recent hard drive survey, but they did nothing more
than reprint the manufacturer's specs.

Are there any happy/unhappy HardPack users in our ranks?

Matthew Quagliana
BITNET:   quag@brownvm
INTERNET: quag@brownvm.brown.edu

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 89 13:23:41 GMT
From: "J.M.L.Martin" <LUCTHSCH%BDILUC11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HELP| Fastback 1.3

     Dear fellow-MacIsts,

I own a Rodime 60 Plus SCSI hard disk, which came with a licensed copy of
FastBack (a wonderful backup program by Fifth Generation Systems,Inc). It
worked fine on my Plus: however, when I recently switched to an SE/30, it
won't work anymore. I narrowed the problem down to the new FDHD drives: per-
haps Fastback is operating the drive at a very low level to achieve its ama-
zing speed. Now my question is:
a) has anyone observed the same problem?
b) is there a more recent version than 1.3 that DOES work with the FDHD?
c) if so, can registered users upgrade to it?

You may answer either to Info-Mac or to me directly LUCTHSCH#BDILUC11.BITNET

                   Jan M.L.Martin, Quantum Chemistry, Department SBM
                   Limburgs Universitair Centrum, Universitaire Campus,
                   B-3610 Diepenbeek, Belgium

P.S.: concerning the Apple 90 days warranty: Apple Belgium DOES give a full
      year. On the other hand, Apple equipment is considerably more expensive
      over here than in the US, and at least the dealers I've met don't know
      their ^CENSORED! from a hole in the ground, hardware or software.

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 10:55:08 MDT
From: "Bruce A. Carter" <DUSCARTE@idbsu.idbsu.edu>
Subject: Hot Monitor

Greetings all,

I have a Macintosh IIcx at home with the Apple High Res color monitor.  The
monitor seems to get EXTREMELY hot on top (like you wouldn't want to lay
your hand on it hot).  Is this normal?  My Macintosh II at work does not
have this problem, though our lab air conditioning is usually set to
"arctic".  My house is air-conditioned and the equipment is not in any
direct (or indirect for that matter) sunlight.  The equipment is on quite
a lot (probably a good 6 hours a day, and much of that is uninterrupted use).
I don't have anything stacked up there (it might ignite!) and the airflow is
generally unrestricted (there is a bookshelf that is part of the desk about
8 inches or so above the monitor).

Any thoughts?  Should I just pick up a small fan and mount it up there or
something similar?  Thanks for any suggestions.

* BRUCE A. CARTER                              OFFICE:  (208) 385-1250 *
** COURSEWARE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR        MESSAGE:  (208) 385-1433 **
*** BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY, 1910 UNIVERSITY DRIVE, BOISE, ID   83725 ***
** BITNET: DUSCARTE@IDBSU          INTERNET: DUSCARTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU **
* APPLELINK: U0919        CIS: 76666,511       PLATO: CARTER/IDAHO/PCA *

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 13:20:19 MDT
From: "Bruce A. Carter" <DUSCARTE@idbsu.idbsu.edu>
Subject: HyperText Tools for Mac

In addition to those mentioned, other HyperText tools include SuperCard
(sort of) from Silicon Beach and IRIS Intermedia from Brown University which
is available through APDA.

* BRUCE A. CARTER                              OFFICE:  (208) 385-1250 *
** COURSEWARE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR        MESSAGE:  (208) 385-1433 **
*** BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY, 1910 UNIVERSITY DRIVE, BOISE, ID   83725 ***
** BITNET: DUSCARTE@IDBSU          INTERNET: DUSCARTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU **
* APPLELINK: U0919        CIS: 76666,511       PLATO: CARTER/IDAHO/PCA *

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 89 07:59:06 CDT
From: CB Lih <CL06076%UAFSYSB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #144

>
>>Date: Fri, 11 Aug 89 08:02:52 CDT
>>From: CB Lih <CL06076%UAFSYSB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
>>Subject: GIF
>>
>>Hello,
>>...
>>  Also, is there a way to search the archived Info-Mac Digests?
>>Something like the LDBASE EXEC would be very nice.
>>    Thank you,
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>=-->   CB Lih   <--=
>>
>>[Moderator's Note:
>>I just do "ls */*key*" under FTP.
>>Of course this assumes I know part of the filename...
>> --Jon]
>
>OR
>You could use the MacArchives Stack which is in the Archives.  It is
>automatically updated to include additions to the Archives as they are
>announced in the Digest by the InfoMac Digest Stack, also in the Archives.
>Peter Jorgensen
    Although I appreciate, and will use, that information, what I was
really trying to ask was if there was a way to search the *digests* for
a particular subject.  Like 'network' or 'printers'.  I use LDBASE with
the L-HCAP list digests and get a nice list of which digests mention
the topic I'm interested in.
  I've still had no answer to the other part of my question, i.e. how can
I look at GIF files on my SE using system 6.0.3, with or without Multifinder?
Thanks,
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-->   CB Lih   <--=
Macintosh Support / Handicap Computer Support
BITNET: CL06076@UAFSYSB    AppleLink: U0669    Phone: 501-575-2905
US Mail: ADSB 220, University of Arkansas
         155 Razorback Road, Fayetteville, AR 72701, USA
Acknowledge-To: <CL06076@UAFSYSB>

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 16:31:13 PDT
From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuq@apple.com>
Subject: John Sculley's Address

>Recently, Greeny announced that we should send complaints about the Mac
>warranty to Scully@Applelink.apple.com.

It was a typo. According to the directory, his applelink is "sculley"

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 23:25 CDT
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: John ScullEy's Address...

> send to scully@...

I am indeed sorry for any errors in my typing.  I was quite tired that night
and as I regularly type quite fast (> 90 wpm) I do tend to drop out a character
or transpose some on occasion.  The fact that I left out the "e" in Mr.
Sculley's name was purely unintentional.

Sorry for any inconvenience...
Bye for now but not for long
Greeny
BITNET: MISS026@ECNCDC
Internet: MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
GEnie: Greeny
MacNet: Greeny

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Date: 17 Aug 89 18:11:00 EST
From: "Jeffrey Templon" <templon@venus.iucf.indiana.edu>
Subject: John Sculley's email address

The previously posted address for John Sculley does not appear to be
correct.  Is it possible that the address should have username
"sculley" instead of "scully"?  I am almost sure that is how the name
is spelled.

					Jeff
===============================bounce from applelink=================
>From: COMMENTS@applelink.apple.com
To: templon@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
Subject: Address-Error

Your message was not delivered--message sent to name not known to system
   Message addressed to:  [DCGQAL]scully
     Subject of message:  Macintosh 90 Day Warranty

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 89 10:22:20 PDT
From: TOLLIVER%ATF.MFENET@ccc.mfecc.llnl.gov
Subject: MacMakeIndex

With the recent availability of the FreeWare OzTeX package, I thought
I would dust this off and post it. This is Version 1.1b1 of MacMakeIndex,
the TeX indexing program for the Mac. If you use TeX, then maybe you
already know about MakeIndex for other machines. This version runs on
the Mac. Actually, this is the "portable" version 2.5 of MakeIndex wrapped
in the most rudimentary Macintosh shell. The enclosed Stuffit file
contains the application and a very tiny bit of documentation.

This is free but not in the public domain. See the accompanying
ReadMe.MacMakeIndex file for the copyright and distribution notice.

Enjoy...

Johnny Tolliver (Tolliver%atf.mfenet@nmfecc.llnl.gov)

[Archived as /info-mac/app/tex-macmakeindex.hqx; 87K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 14:48:32 EDT
From: Jeff_Kaloustian@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Medical Dictionary for MS Word

I'm looking for a Medical dictionary for use with Microsoft Word.  It 
doesn't have to work specifically with Word's spelling feature, but that 
would be nice.  If anyone knows of anything like this please respond 
directly to me.  Thanks in advance.
 
   /////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
  /        Jeff Kaloustian                                           \
 /         The University of Michigan                                 \
/          Department of Anesthesiology                                \
\                                                                      /
 \         Internet:  Kaloustian@um.cc.umich.edu                      /
  \        Bitnet:    USERW0RT@UMICHUM                               /
   \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 19:34 EDT
From: Doug Hardie <Hardie@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL>
Subject: Multifinder and the menubar

I am trying to get a program working using Absoft Fortran.  However, I
am unable to figure out how to make the miniture icon in the menubar
switch programs.  I can switch just fine using the apple menu.  However,
anytime I click the mouse on the icon, all I get from MenuSelect is
zeros for the menu and item numbers.  As best as I can tell, I am using
the same sequence of toolbox calls as other programs that do switch
properly.  Is there something sepcial that must be setup with the
menubar to enable this switching?

-- Doug

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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 89 14:20:38 MDT
From: L.Sitze@Kevin
Subject: NetHack 2.3

Several people have been waiting for me (or someone) to send these
archives to Sumex.  So here they are.  The graphics in this game are a
little slow, but playing on a Mac II is somewhat better.


[Archived as /info-mac/game/nethack-23-part1.hqx; 182K
             /info-mac/game/nethack-23-part2.hqx; 177K]

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Date: 17 Aug 89 23:32:55 GMT
From: chuq@apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Public Domain Midi Player for Casio

>I recently acquired a Casio MT-240 with Midi interface and an Altech
>Interface for my Mac-II. 

>I would like
>a PD player which outputs to the Midi device in some (fairly) common
>format 

I don't know public domain, but Deluxe Music Construction Set works find
with my Casio and there are a lot of songs (especially on CompuServe) for
the program. The latest release is 2.5, which I don't have yet.



Chuq Von Rospach      =|=     Editor,OtherRealms     =|=     Member SFWA/ASFA
         chuq@apple.com   =|=  CI$: 73317,635  =|=  AppleLink: CHUQ
      [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 14:25:43 CDT
From: shulman@sdrvx1.sinet.slb.com (Jeffrey Shulman)
Subject: Reverse Video

I'm looking for a version of the Reverse Video INIT that works on a IIcx.
The one I found doesn't.  If you have one that you *know* works (i.e. have
actually used it on a IIcx) please send it to me.  In case it matters the
IIcx has Apple's Portrait Display.  Thanks.

Jeff

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 14:42 EST
From: <ELBERT%MIDD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Server Speeds?

We are installing another Apple Share/LocalTalk network here
at Middlebury and I am curious about SCSI disk access times.
The GCC UltraDrive 100s hard drives are reported to have average
seek times of 19 ms (GCC glossy pamphlet).  Does anyone know
a comparable number for the Apple OEM-ed internal 80 Mbyte
drives in the SE/30??  Would we get substantially better
performance from the third-party drives??

A related question concerns evaluation of access time data...
For a localtalk server with 1-12 users how can I calculate
effective access rates for those users...in other words
how can I quantitatively (or semi-quant.) investigate the
impact of speeding up one part of the link between data and
the user??

Please send any replies directly to me (BITNET) and I'll
summarize anything of general interest to the net.

Thanks-

David Elbert
Department of Geology
Middlebury College
Middlebury, VT  05753
(802) 388 3711 x5652

Elbert@Midd.BITNET

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Date: Thu Aug 17 07:46:38 1989
From: microsoft!dickb@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Word 4 questions

********
1.  How can I use Tab stops within the cells?  I know that pressing Tab will
    move the insertion point one cell to the right.  I also know that when ever
    I place a Decimal Tab in the cell Word automatically tabs to that position
    so that my numbers will line up on the decimal.  But there are times when
    I use text within tables and want to side-by-side lists with bullets or
    numbers.  One work-around is to place a space or two where the tab should
    be and then use the Search and Replace utility.  It works, but it gets
    very tedious.

2.  Next, once a Table has been created, say with 10 rows, how can I insert a
    carrige return between rows 6 and 7?  Another way of saying this is how
    can I break a table into 2 distinct parts?  There have been times when Word
    places a page break in the middle of my table and I want to break it so
?
    that I can place a bit of text (ie. Cont'd) above the second part. 
**********

To use Tab stops within cells of a Word table, press Option-Tab.

(See Page 376 of the Reference manual.)

To insert a normal paragraph mark (carriage return) between rows
6 and 7:

Position the insertion point in row 7.
Press Command-Option-Spacebar.
A paragraph mark is inserted before row 7.

(Be sure you have Full Menus on for both procedures.)

(See Page 372 of the Reference manual.)

Dick Brown

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