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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 8 Sep 89 Volume 7 : Issue 161
Today's Topics:
"Productivity Software"
Appleshare, Tops, and Unix...
Application has unexpectedly quit (query)
Backup programs for large harddisks
Bring Mac out of US
Corporate relations
File sharing between Macs and Suns:
looking for a quick time manager
Mac II Problem (Hard drive not booting)
Need information about compilers
Picture to (x,y) points
Pie Menus for HyperCard (Source)
PostScript programs & the LaserWriter
PrFlds XCMD 1.9
SE/30 hard drives
User-oriented 'TEXT' file type setter
VersaTerm-Pro & MIDI
WindDemo 1.0
WindowList INIT 1.3
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 89 10:47 CDT
From: <BPB9204%TAMSTAR.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: "Productivity Software"
I'm looking for something to help myself remember things to do. I usually
write them down, but since I use my Mac so often, I'd just as well have my
to-do's on it.
I think Sidekick had something like this(SmartAlarms??). Does anyone
have any suggestions? I looked in the Info-Mac archives, but nothing caught
my eye.
Hopefully there is something in the PD, but fine if not. Thanks in
advance!
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| Brent Burton |
| BPB9204@TAMSTAR |
| Texas A&M Univ. |
| WHOOP! |
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| I just can't think|
| of a snappy end- |
| ing. |
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 89 09:15:50 EDT
From: vita@disney.crd.ge.com (Mark F. Vita)
Subject: Appleshare, Tops, and Unix...
> We have two labs here that we would to have exchange files
> easily. One lab is Macs, the other is Suns, and the Mac lab
> runs Appleshare. Ideally, we would like to have the Sun lab
> directly recognize the Appleshare server (and if possible
> somehow, have the Mac lab recognize some volume in the Sun
> lab).
>
>I don't know of any product that would give Sun users the ability to access
>an AppleShare file server.
I believe that IPT, makers of uShare, have this (i.e. AppleShare client
software for a Sun). They are the only vendor I know of that offers such a
capability. Their address/number is:
Information Presentation Technologies, Inc.
23801 Calabasas Road, Suite 2008
Calabasas, CA 91302
(818) 347-7791
By the way, IPT's uShare performs much the same function as CAP; i.e.
provides a AFP-compliant server on a UNIX box. It isn't free, of course,
(I believe it retails for $1195); however, going with a commercial product
has some advantages in terms of support and so forth (I hear it can take a
fair amount of effort to get CAP up and running). IPT also offers e-mail,
terminal emulation, print spooling, and "virtual disk" software, which
allows a "diskless" Mac to use a UNIX file server as a boot drive. They
also have a product called the "Personal Server Network", which is
"distributed" AppleShare server software for a Mac (i.e., it lets any Mac
function as a non-dedicated server, like TOPS, but is fully AFP-compliant,
unlike TOPS). The nice thing about AFP-compliant products like IPT's is
that you only need to purchase software for the server machines; clients
use the standard AppleShare client software that comes on Apple's system
disks.
If you haven't already purchased a gateway, you might want to consider the
Cayman GatorBox. This is a AppleTalk to Ethernet bridge, like the Kinetics
box, but it also does AFP-to-NFS conversion entirely on the gateway. With
one of these installed, any NFS server on the Ethernet can appear as an
AppleShare server to any Mac with the standard AppleShare client software.
Since all the intelligence for this is contained in the GatorBox, no NFS
machine or Mac need to be modified with any special software.
Mark Vita vita@crd.ge.com
General Electric CRD ..!uunet!crd.ge.com!vita
Schenectady, NY
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Date: 89-09-08 09:57:35 MEZ
From: TU70150%DHHUNI4.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Application has unexpectedly quit (query)
Hi net,
Having upgraded my Mac's memory, I started using Multifinder. It's
great, but now some of my applications bring the message:
The application "XYZ" has unexpectedly quit (01)
just after launching them. Sometimes several tries help to get it
run finally, launching other programs before the desired one is an-
other solution. The Mac's handbook and IM remain silent about these
circumstances, hence here is my question to the net:
Does anyone know what this message really means, when it will appear
and how to avoid it ?
Thanks,
Klaus Schnathmeier
Hamburg/ W. Germany
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 89 19:06:23 DNT
From: Jakob Nielsen Tech Univ of Denmark <DATJN%NEUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Backup programs for large harddisks
I recently got a 140 MB harddisk: Very nice, except now my backup
program (HFS Backup 2.02) refuses to do a selective backup (it gives
the error message "Backup list full" or something like that).
I do need selective backup as most of the disk is full of various
large hypertext and HyperCard documents which do not need to be backed
up.
Also, the backup program needs to handle the SuperDrive 1.4 MB diskettes.
I know, you will tell me to buy a tape streamer for backup, but I can't
afford that right now....
Please: Can anybody advice a good backup program for needs like these?
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 89 16:54:59 PDT
From: ghe@nucthy.physics.orst.edu (Guangliang He)
Subject: Bring Mac out of US
I am thinking buying a Mac. But I am not sure if there is some kind of
Technical exporting restriction on the Mac. Becouse some day I may have to
go back home which is China and I want to bring the Mac with me.
Does anybody know what kind document should I have to bring a Mac from US
back to my home?
Any hint will be welcome. Answer with email, please. I will sumarize if
there is enough interest, but I doubt it :-).
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USMAIL: Guangliang He | INTERNET: ghe@PHYSICS.ORST.EDU
Department of Physics | BITNET: hegl@ORSTVM.BITNET
Weniger Hall 301 |
Oregon State University |
Corvallis, OR 97331-6507 | PHONE: (503) 737-4631
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Date: 08 Sep 89 08:46:40
From: Brian.R.Edwards@mac.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Corporate relations
I'm looking for a Mac-based software package that can be used to track
potential corporate sponsors (contacts, areas of interest, etc) and faculty
projects (name, type, dollars, hit rate, etc). This doesn't necessarily have
to be a dedicated application package, a HyperCard stack or application in
FoxBase or 4th Dimension would suffice. I'm trying to find out what's out
there (at a reasonable cost) before launching a (possibly redundant) in-house
effort.
Thanks for any and all input.
Brian R. Edwards
Dartmouth Medical School
Box 7600
Hanover, NH 03756
Tel: (603) 646-8855
Fax: (603) 646-6120
Internet: bre@dartmouth.edu
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 89 08:59:00 PLT
From: "Joshua Yeidel" <YEIDEL@wsuvm1.wsu.edu>
Subject: File sharing between Macs and Suns:
My understanding is that the GatorBox (LocalTalk/Ethernet bridge) when
outfitted with GatorShare software will do exactly what you want.
The GatorBox translates AppleShare protocol to Network File System
protocol, so that your Macs will think that the Suns are AppleShare
servers, and your Suns will think your Macs are NFS clients, *with
no additional software on Macs or Suns*.
We don't have a GatorBox yet, so I can't offer the voice of experience
just yet. I have been in contact with Wilson Farrar of
Cayman (the GatorMakers) at:
Cayman Systems, Inc.
26 Landsdowne Street
Cambridge, Mass 02139
(617) 494-1999
wilson@cayman.com
Applelink: D0523
Of course, I have no affiliation with Cayman -- I'm just reporting what
I understand to be the capabilities of the product.
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Joshua Yeidel YEIDEL@WSUVM1.BITNET
ACADEMIC COMPUTING SERVICES YEIDEL@WSUVM1.WSU.EDU
Washington State University (509) 335-0441
Pullman, WA 99164-1232
DISCLAIMER: I'm speaking solely for myself here, not Washington State U.
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 89 23:15:35 EDT
From: Raynaud <ULMO031%FRORS12.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: looking for a quick time manager
For an assembly programm, I need a way to get interruptions every
about 1/1000 seconds or so (from 1/500 to 1/10000 accepted). I saw
that the Vertical Retrace Manager provides only for a frequency of
about 60 Hz, which is definitly to low for me.
So, is there a time manager somewhere that can give me such a high
frequency ? (I remember I saw posted here, a program that would manage
time with such a precision, but I cannot figure out which one it was)
If not manager can do this, is there another way ? maybe by setting
the serial drivers to a fast speed, and manage to get interruptions from there
on a regular basis ?
Any help will be appreciated, please send suggestions to
<ULMO031@FRORS12.BITNET> Alain Raynaud
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 89 09:41 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen)
Subject: Mac II Problem (Hard drive not booting)
<MPARK%UTMEM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:
>Subject: Mac II Problem
>
>My Mac II is cranky getting started now too. Nearly
>every morning, it will not boot right away. Instead it
>displays the question-mark Mac icon for many minutes.
>My ad hoc solution has been to push the restart button,
>.
>.
>.
>"I just tell the people to leave their machines on."
>
>As a further note, I have a PDP-11 with a 5 1/2" hard
>disk that has been off a total of only about 20 hours
>in the last six years. They seem to hold up well to
>being left on.
I agree! My HD 20 (non-SCSI) has run continuously at home on my old 512KE for
the past three years. I turn it off only when I go on vacation (for over a
week) and during SEVERE thunder storms (about 3 times per year.) I leave my
Mac IIcx w/internal 80 on and my Zenith 159 with internal 20 on throughout the
week at the office, 24 hours a day.
I pursued this question at some length with Techs on AppleLink, and
finally got the answer "It's best to leave 'em on."
There are solid technical reasons why it IS best to leave a hard disk running,
I'd be glad to summarize if people want.
A co-worker of mine doesn't see it that way, and he keeps turning them off...
of course he experiences alot of hard drive problems (on Zeniths),
and I have none.
Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742
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Date: 7 Sep 89 21:53:00 EST
From: "Jeffrey Templon" <templon@venus.iucf.indiana.edu>
Subject: Need information about compilers
Hello All,
I am trying to decide on which Mac compiler to buy. I have narrowed my
choices to two products: either Think C 4.0 or TML Pascal II/MPW.
(Audience: sheesh. this guy can't even decide what LANGUAGE.) The advantages
I have seen for Think C are the integrated environment, large installed base
(therefore lots of examples) and it is C, which I know well enough to get by.
The advantages I have for TML Pascal is that it comes with MPW 3.0 complete for
LESS than Think C (about $109), and one application I wish to play with (for
which I have the source) was written in Pascal. I know Pascal a little, and am
not opposed to learning.
Clearly the best solution would be TML C with MPW, but I don't think
this is a product. I had heard that one could add new compilers into MPW quite
easily - is this true? If so this would be a distinct advantage to TML. Also
how are the MPW upgrades handled? If I buy it thru TML, do I get MPW upgrades
free from them or do I have to pay pay pay to Apple?
Please email to me and if I get enough of the "gee, I'd like to know
too" responses I will summarize to the group.
Jeff Templon
Indiana University Cyclotron Facility
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 89 18:13:56 PDT
From: saint%CitIago.Bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu (Patrick Santangelo)
Subject: Picture to (x,y) points
I have several absorbance spectra (abs. vs. wavelength) that were scanned and
saved as Macpaint formatted files.
Does anyone know of a program that will read the file and translate
the PICTURE to a set of x,y data points?
Pat Santangelo
Dept. of Chemistry 127-72
Caltech
Pasadena, CA. 91125
saint%iago@hamlet.caltech.edu
saint%iago@caltech.bitnet
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Date: 14 May 89 11:00:45 GMT
From: andrea@boulder.colorado.edu (Andrea Ignatowski)
Subject: Pie Menus for HyperCard (Source)
This file contains the source code to a HyperCard XCMD that implements
popup pie menus. A stack that utilizes these menus has been posted
seperately.
We are conducting a survey regarding the use of these menus and would
appreciate you trying them and sending us your comments (as well as any
improvements to the code). For a description of pie menus and their
usage please see the article appearing in the SIGCHI 1988 Conference
Proceedings:
"An Empirical Comparison of Pie Vs. Linear Menus"
by: Jack Callahan, Don Hopkins, Ben Shneiderman, and Mark Weiser
Thanks,
Andrea Ignatowski
andrea@boulder.colorado.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/xcmd/pie-menus-source.hqx; 69K]
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 89 19:53:50 PDT
From: SUNDAR_PRASAD@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: PostScript programs & the LaserWriter
My query comes in the aftermath of the requests/solution provided for turning
off the test page on the LaserWriter.
1. How does one send a Postscript file to the LaserWriter so that it interprets
that file as a program and not as a document ? Am I missing some detail like a
PostScript compiler ?
2. Our MacIIx is connected to a VAXstation 3200. The software on the VAX can
produce PostScript graphics files, but we are unable to print them on the
LaserWriter for lack of a direct connection. However I can FTP those PostScript
files as text files on to our Mac. My problem: How can I send this Mac file
to the LaserWriter so that it generates a graphic and not a listing of the
PostScript code itself.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Sundar_Prasad@mtsg.ubc.ca
(Ocean Engineering, U of B.C., CANADA)
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Date: 2 Jun 89 04:00:37 GMT
From: joseph@cs.utah.edu (Joseph F. Buchanan)
Subject: PrFlds XCMD 1.9
This is a new version of PrFlds. PrFlds is a general purpose print
XCMD for HyperCard that allows the printing of any field, or any other
text including the evaluation of any HyperTalk expression, in any
font/size/style or placement for any of the text objects specified (up
to 100 objects per card). It also allows for drawing of lines on the
page and multiple cards per page(including multiple columns). You can
select cards by some criterion specified in a HyperTalk function.
This version has a major bug fix from version 1.8 (involving memory
problems). It also does better error checking and recovery.
If you have any questions or problems, please feel free to call or
write me.
Enjoy!
Joseph F. Buchanan (A91)
Computer Center - MEB 3440
University of Utah
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
(801) 581-8814
bitnet: Joseph@CC.Utah.EDU
[Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/xcmd/prflds-19.hqx; 35K]
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 89 12:19:46 EDT
From: paisley@mte.ncsu.edu (Mike)
Subject: SE/30 hard drives
A friendly warning to potential customers of SE/30's.
We have a user who recently purchased an SE/30 with an internal HD40. He had
been using a Plus with an HD20 (pre-SCSI). He wanted to plug his HD20 into
the SE/30 drive port and copy all of his files over to his new machine. But
NNNNOOOOOOOOO.... The SE/30 refused to recognize it. Looking in the
documentation, it says that the drive port will recognize 800K floppies, but
NOT hard disks or 400K floppies.
***IRATE COMMENT ON***
Now he will have to backup his disk to floppies, and then restore his disk to
the new SE/30. Seems a bit ridiculous to change the specs on the floppy drive
port to obsolete your OWN drives, though I suppose it saved them $0.30. I
know SCSI drives are the order of the day, but perhaps a more than occasional
glance at backward compatibility is in order.
***IRATE COMMENT OFF***
Let the buyer beware.
Michael J. Paisley PAISLEY@MTE.NCSU.EDU
Materials Science & Engineering PAISLEY%MTE@NCSUVX.NCSU.EDU
229 Riddick Laboratories PAISLEY@NCSUMTE.BITNET
Campus Box 7907 Office: (919) 737-7083
North Carolina State University Messages: (919) 737-2377
Raleigh, NC 27695-7907 FAX: (919) 737-3419
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 89 17:14:47 PDT
From: 1GTLEJS%CALSTATE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Ed Skochinski)
Subject: User-oriented 'TEXT' file type setter
Our site needs a bullet-proof utility for setting the file type of files
to 'TEXT'. Does such a beast exist? C or pascal source code would be best;
I could deal with a pure binary, though.
Ed Skochinski
The California State University
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Date: 8 Sep 89 13:11:00 EDT
From: "Michael Yablonsky, Cook" <yablonsky@biovax.rutgers.edu>
Subject: VersaTerm-Pro & MIDI
Being new to this digest I've hard the rumors about VersaTerm Pro under
multifinder but I missed the "discussion". Could someone send me the
summary??
I've been asked (by a musician) what my new toy (SE/30) can do with
his new toy (Yamaha digital keyboard). Any suggestions for a couple
of MIDI neophytes???
Mike Yablonsky
Yablonsky@biovax.rut.edu
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Date: 14 Jun 89 20:00:25 GMT
From: bradn@tekig3.LEN.TEK.COM (Bradford Needham)
Subject: WindDemo 1.0
So you've been looking for a way to make your program's windows collapse
to the size of finder icons? Maybe you've been looking for an example
WDEF? Look no further.
WindDemo contains a window definition procedure (WDEF) that implements a
tiny window, with a tiny title-bar below the contents. If the window is
larger than a particular size, the WDEF acts like a standard, zoomable
window.
Here's one typical use:
Somebody is running your program. They're temporarily finished
with a window, but they don't want to close it just yet.
They use the grow box to shrink the window to almost nothing,
and the window collapses into an icon with a finder-like title
below it.
When they want to continue working with the window, they just
click its tiny zoom box to restore it to its normal size.
This posting contains the new WDEF, a demonstration program, and the
source (in LightSpeed C) for the works. It's all public-domain.
WindDemo runs only on systems that support zoom-windows.
Brad Needham
bradn@tekig3.TEK.COM (note my new email address)
2239 SE 74th Ave.
Hillsboro, OR 97123 USA
[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/wdef-winddemo.hqx; 54K]
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Date: 17 May 89 04:01:57 GMT
From: mystone@sol.engin.umich.edu (Dean Yu)
Subject: WindowList INIT 1.3
WindowList is an INIT that pops down a list of open windows from the title
bar of a window. Selecting an item from this list will bring that window
to the front. Documentation is included.
Caveat: Don't use it with ResEdit. It seems that ResEdit has some internal
structures tied with the ordering of its windows and all hell breaks loose
if you choose a window by any means other than clicking on one.
-- Dean Yu
[Archived as /info-mac/init/windowlist-13.hqx; 8K]
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