Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (09/28/89)
Info-Mac Digest Wed, 27 Sep 89 Volume 7 : Issue 170
Today's Topics:
32-bit QuickDraw
Bug report for Launch INIT
Building a small network of Macs...
FTP updates
HOW TO ACCESS THE SERIAL PORT FROM HYPERCARD? HERE ARE THE ANSWERS.
Inside Mac typos list
International shipping of SE
LAYERS
Replies to Request for Banner-making Program
Request to post
sad mac ?
Smalltalk
Software required with Local Talk PC card
the whole apple II line.
Toner hogs
Ultima V
WANTED: Terminal Program for Mac Plus
Zenith FTM monitor for Macs
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 89 10:22 N
From: Avi Epstein <EPSTEIN%EMBL.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: 32-bit QuickDraw
I would like to use the Mac-II-video-card-utility but it requires
the 32-bit QuickDraw. Where could I get the 32-bit QuickDraw Package?
Avi Epstein
EMBL
Heidelberg, West Germany EPSTEIN@DHDEMBL5
[Moderator's Note: Have you checked your dealer? We aren't allowed to keep
system software here. -- Jon]
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 89 00:22:02 CDT
From: Michael Farlow--Texas A&M Graphics Lab <X098MF%TAMVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Bug report for Launch INIT
Howdy,
Since I don't have the address for the author of the Launch INIT handy, I would
like to post this bug report to the Digest.
When I saw notice of this INIT, I saw an answer to one of my needs for
gathering data for our Mac Lab. I promptly downloaded it, checked it out with
Disinfectant, and then loaded it onto a new set of system boot disks. All was
fine until users tried to use applications that depended heavily on PICT
resources (In our case, Cricket Graph and MacDraw II). It seems that when the
users tried to open existing files or save new ones, the Mac responded with
a dialog box and an error code of -42. Not knowing exactly what this was, but
armed that Launch INIT was the most recent thing added to the System Folder,
I deleted it and then re-booted. Lo and Behold if things weren't back to
normal (what ever that is supposed to be :-} )
Has anyone else encountered this? And if the author is out there and would
like more detailed info, please contact me.
"Success lies in achieving the top of the food chain."
--Jubal Harshaw, 1906-
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 10:48:37 PDT
From: "Roger L. Long" <bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com>
Subject: Building a small network of Macs...
Would anyone care to enlighten me as to the ins and outs of Macintosh
networking? I work in a small company where there are two Mac IIs and
a Mac Plus being used. We'd like to hook them together to increase
their usefulness. We're starting pretty much from scratch; the only
other equipment that will probably come in handy are two Nuvotech
TurboNet boxes (that we used to hook one of the Mac IIs to a visiting
LaserWriter awhile ago).
Our needs are:
a) NO SERVERS - We're not rich (yet), and we'd all like to continue
using the machines that we have. This rules out AppleShare, I
guess...
b) share files - Two of us develop software, and often work on the
same project. Right now, we both maintain copies of the sources
on both machines, with one of us integrating his changes into the
master source. This is a pain, and my being able to change files
on the other machine would be quite helpful.
c) messaging - Something like Broadcast would probably do. Real email
would be even better.
d) sharing printer(s) - See (a). We're not rich (yet), and all we have
here now is a couple of Imagewriters. Is there an alternative to
upgrading one or both to be Appletalk Imagewriters? (Would such a
solution require enough of the CPU that we'd want to upgrade the
Imagewriters so that the person printing would be talking directly
to the printer.)
e) hook up other machines - Eventually we'd might like to hook up an
IBM clone to this network. Not a big consideration... We also have
an old Alpha Micro machine with a bunch of disk space that we could
use for archival storage, if hooking up were not too much a problem.
So, the question of the day - what hardware and software do we need?
By eliminating AppleShare because of (a) above, it looks to me like that
leaves Tops and something called "Personal Server Network" from Information
Presentation Technologies, Inc. Can anyone give me the pros and cons of
choosing one over the other? I'm tending to lean towards PSN because I've
heard that they adhere to AFP, where Tops has it's own protocol.
And that leaves me to solve (c), (d), and (e) with other hardware/software.
Any suggestions for email for a small set of machines? Network print
spoolers?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
--
Roger L. Long
bytebug@dhw68k.cts.com
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 22:00:40 PDT
From: Mark B. Johnson <mjohnson@apple.com>
Subject: FTP updates
[This is a listing of the directories at apple.com which they provide for
anonymous ftp access. Thanks to Mark Johnson for providing this info.
-- Jon]
Notice the addition of the 6.0.4 change history...
-- 0 Sep 20 21:58 ./help/dir-files-recent
-r 31743 Sep 20 21:56 ./mac/sys.soft/sys604-upd.hqx
-r 15667 Sep 20 07:18 ./press/pr0920-portable-iici-intro.txt
-r 6695 Sep 20 07:18 ./press/pr0919-apple-microsoft-tech-agreement.txt
-r 2909 Sep 18 07:16 ./press/pr0918-pacific-president.txt
-r 665 Sep 18 06:13 ./help/ftp-status
-r 1458386 Sep 14 22:53 ./mac/tn/tn.stack/tn-stack-3-1.hqx
-r 203066 Sep 13 12:37 ./mac/hacks/Virtual-Controllers.hqx
-r 19985 Sep 11 06:45 ./mac/hacks/MacII-Video-Card-Util.hqx
-r 69476 Sep 8 15:26 ./mac/tools/virusrx-15.hqx
-r 35153 Sep 8 14:26 ./aii/tn/tn.index.89.09
-r 5472 Sep 8 14:26 ./aii/tn/smpt/tn.smpt.002
-r 7530 Sep 8 14:26 ./aii/tn/misc/tn.misc.010
-r 10946 Sep 8 14:25 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.070
-r 17526 Sep 8 14:25 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.069
-r 17828 Sep 8 14:24 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.068
-r 6483 Sep 8 14:24 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.067
-r 5401 Sep 8 14:23 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.066
-r 2416 Sep 8 14:23 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.065
-r 43385 Sep 8 14:23 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.064
-r 1476 Sep 8 14:22 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.045
-r 14295 Sep 8 14:22 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.036
-r 36368 Sep 8 14:21 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.035
-r 15970 Sep 8 14:20 ./aii/tn/tn.000.about.89.09
-r 13557 Sep 8 14:20 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.026
-r 5542 Sep 8 14:20 ./aii/tn/atlk/tn.atlk.004
-r 2942 Sep 8 14:20 ./aii/tn/atlk/tn.atlk.003
-r 14885 Sep 8 14:19 ./aii/ftn/ftn.c7.xxxx
-r 2654 Sep 8 14:19 ./aii/ftn/ftn.b5.xxxx
-r 2224 Sep 8 14:19 ./aii/ftn/ftn.b3.xxxx
-r 15969 Sep 8 14:19 ./aii/ftn/ftn.about.89.09
-r 27682 Sep 8 14:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.1b.xxxx
-r 13836 Sep 8 14:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.1a.xxxx
-r 22730 Sep 8 14:17 ./aii/ftn/ftn.19.xxxx
-r 3474 Sep 8 08:39 ./press/pr0907-space-station.txt
-r 5284 Sep 8 08:38 ./press/pr0907-educator-advantage.txt
-r 3123 Sep 8 08:38 ./press/pr0907-education-solutions.txt
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Date: Wed, 20 SEP 89 12:33 N
From: RONCHETTI%ITNVAX.CINECA.IT@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: HOW TO ACCESS THE SERIAL PORT FROM HYPERCARD? HERE ARE THE ANSWERS.
I asked two or three weeks ago suggestions about driving the serial port
>From Hypercard. Here is a summary of the answers I've got:
1) By the HyperCard serial communication toolbox from APDA for $20. Then you
will have a complete set of tools for serial communications including xmodem.
BUT ! In Italy to be allowed to buy any piece of software from APDA you MUST
join APDA, which will cost you at least 400 $ per year !!!
2) In Developers stack (1.1 and 1.2) there are also some simple cmds for
serial comm, these are shareware.
3). There are also several stacks out with serial port controllers. Among those
are:
- HyperBBS, available for anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
- Hyperterminal 3.0 (shareware) which provides access and terminal emulation.
- HyperUNIX system developed by Greg Anderson, avaliable by anonymous ftp from
ssyx.ucsc.edu (the XCMDs and XFCNs for serial comm. contained here were pulled
out from HyperBBS)
- The Dartmouth XCMD collections have source codes for a couple of serial
controllers.
Thanks to Bruce A. Carter, (DUSCARTE@IDBSU.BITNET), Ollef (OLLEF@SICS.SE)
and Steve Lazarus (SML@WDL1.FAC.FORD.COM), Greg Anderson (sirkm@ssyx.ucsc.edu)
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Marco Ronchetti, RONCHETT@ITNCISCA.bitnet
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 11:52:58 EDT
From: abboud%cuavax.dnet@netcon (Hisham)
Subject: Inside Mac typos list
Has anyone seen, or does anybody know of a list of all the errors and typos
in Inside Mac volumes I thru 5 (or any volume)? I wish Apple could release a
second edition of the same volumes, with the typos and misc. errors fixed.
In previous digests, I saw occasional references to typos in Inside Mac, but
I'd be tedious to download all the digests and search/read them.
Thanks.
Hisham.
Hisham A. Abboud
Computer Center/Academic Services
The Catholic University of America
Washington, D.C. 20064
Bitnet: ABBOUD@CUA |
Internet: ABBOUD%CUAVAX.DNET@NETCON.CUA.EDU |
or ABBOUD%CUAVAX.DNET@192.31.193.2 |
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 11:03:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Hill <jh5f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: International shipping of SE
I will be leaving in a couple of weeks for 3 months in Austria, and I
need to take my SE (2 floppy with an external hard disk). I had seen
advertisements for a hard cover container much like people ship video
equipment to be used for shipping as baggage on the airplane.
Unfortunately, I have misplaced the information now that I am ready
to use it. Does anyone know the phone number of a company selling
such containers? Alternatively, does anyone have other ideas about
safely taking my SE with me (I will be carrying the hard disk so it
isn't a problem)?
Thanks in advance.
John
John Edward Hill Dept. of Biological Sciences
jh5f+@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University
4400 Fifth Avenue
412-268-5122 Pittsburgh, PA. 15213-3890 USA
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Date: 20 Sep 89 10:04 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: LAYERS
Date: 20 September 1989, 09:46:05 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: LAYERS
I found out a bit more about Layers, the init that accumulates icons of open
applications ina small relocatable but unclosable window that floats on top
of everything else on the desktop (better than mousing up to multifinder
icon top right, cuz it's random access rather than sequential).
It was written by Mike Kahl (sp?) of Think LightSpeed C fame, it's PD, and
it was presented at the last MacHack in Ann Arbor.
If I could figure out a way to send it to the archives via Bitnet, I would;
Lance/Jon: what's a good snailmail address to send you a Mac diskette?
[Moderator's Note: Just email us a Binhexed copy. That's the only way we
get submissions. --Jon]
Ted
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 14:12:07 EDT
From: "Roger D. Parish" <U9505RP%DOEMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Replies to Request for Banner-making Program
Following is a digest of answers I received to my query about a banner
printing program for the Mac.
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From: "Albert H. Gough" <ag14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
I tend to use MacDraw for that sort of thing. Choose sideways printing
in page setup, and set drawing size to whatever ( 8 feet may be the limit
unless you print at 400%, in which case I think you get 32 feet). Also
set to 'no breaks between pages'.
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From: ELIOT@cs.umass.EDU
There is such a critter for the Mac. It is called "banner" and
prints a string sideways in 6 or 8 inch letters. It is very old,
(c.1985!) but I think it still works on my SE/Imagewriter I.
I havn't the vaugest idea if it works on a laser printer.
(I just looked at the INFO. It is by John Gregory, Powertools Software,
1984!)
I think it is available from BCS-MAC.
Christopher Eliot
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From: Sylvia Jacyno <SJACYNO@UGA>
I believe that PRINTSHOP (mac version about 40 bucks mailorder) will
do banners of anylength on your dot matrix printer.
Sylvia Jacyno
UCNS User Services
The University of Georgia
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From: Kim Dyer <3C257F7@CMUVM>
I *think* billboard has a banner program attached.
archived as /app/billboard40-part1.hqx
/app/billboard40-part2.hqx
/app/billboard40-part3.hqx
It did the last time I looked ... but that was a while ago.
* Kim A. Dyer
* Computer Services
* Central Michigan University
* Mt. Pleasant, MI
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From: GORR <MYSTMAN@UWACDC.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Printshop for the MAC will print banners and there is one shareware
program out there that will also print banners, but it isn't very good
and I am not sure if it is available in the archives.
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My thanks to these fine folks for replying. The BillBoard program is a
commercial shareware product from CE Software. The banner program, samples
and documentation are held back as enticement to pay the 35 dollar shareware
fee, whereupon they are shipped to you. I guess it boils down to BillBoard
versus PrintShop.
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 89 22:44:57 EDT
From: "Michael L. Williamson" <mlwillia@crdec4.apgea.army.mil>
Subject: Request to post
Please feel free to modify, delete or append. My objective is to locate
someone currently using the GCC BLP Laser and obtain additional performance
characteristics. The message is as ollows:
I am interested in purchasing the GCC Business Laser printer (BLP) for a
Mac Plus in preparing graphic newsletters. I am interested in its relative
performance as compared to the Laserwriter NTX. The latest issue of Mac
World suggest equivalent performance, at a substantial reduction in price.
One difference, however, is a significant reduction in the lifetime copy
capacity (180,000) of the engine. What is the cost of regeneration? Is
anyone currently using a GCC BLP who can give me more specific first
hand, unbiased information and advice? Opinions are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Mike Williamson
Chemical Research Development and Engineering Center
Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 21010-5423
(301) 671-5565
mlwillia@crdec4.apgea.army.mil
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 23:38:20 CDT
From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein)
Subject: sad mac ?
Does anybody has any idea what the following Sad Mac code means?
0000003
0000004
It appears from time to time only on my SE. Tilting the Mac down
onto his face and tapping cures the problem. For a while at least.
The thing started occuring after I installed 2meg upgrade. I opened
it and checked again and everything seems to be in place and connected
well. If the Mac boots, it works with no problems. That is until
a couple days later the Sad Mac shows again.
Any ideas appreciated.
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 89 18:29:44 EET
From: Trup%GRATHUN1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Smalltalk
Hello all,
This is a message from a friend that is not a subscriber yet, but would
like ask you something:
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Could you please tell me if there is a way to see news on Smalltalk.
>From our node I cannot access the bboard, and I don't know if there is
any other or indirect way to get info and post questions.
Thanks in advance.
Dionysis
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Van Tambassis
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 89 08:51:23 CDT
From: Eddie Mikell <eddie@cc.msstate.edu>
Subject: Software required with Local Talk PC card
The Learning Center here on campus wants to be able to print to
the laserwriter (which is connected to some GS's and Mac's with
Appletalk) from a PC.
After talking with Gary Jennings with Apple in Charlotte, he told
me I needed a LocalTalk PC Card and the appropriate cables to
connect to the existing network.
Well, I've installed the card, and I believe I need an Appletalk
software package. Is this true? Can I just use the card as if
it was a serial or parallel port?
What else is involved here?
Thanks for the help!
Eddie H. Mikell
"Think about it. Someday we'll be able to put the minds of smart people
into the bodies of dumb people" - Steve Martin, The Man With Two Brains
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 12:13:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ross Ward Comer <rc3h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: the whole apple II line.
<JJM3383%TAMSIGMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:
> I think that apple should kill the whole apple II line. Instead they
> should implement II in a mac or some such standard on every machine...
Sounds great... once Apple produces a Color Mac for under $1000 (that
INCLUDES the monitor!) And let's make sure that the Mac version is GS
compatible. This means full Ensoniq support, graphics, etc.
I think Apple is moving in that direction, but for now, the II line is
still cost-effective.
ross
rc3h+@andrew.cmu.edu
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 89 12:29:45 CDT
From: "Bob B. Funchess" <S090726@umrvma.umr.edu>
Subject: Toner hogs
We are trying to set up a computer learning center based on Mac IIcx machines.
We would like to put a LaserWriter IINTX in as well, BUT we have heard horror
stories from another group on campus about fraternities who print 300 copies
of a 3-page newsletter, or people who decide to run off the required 10 copies
of their thesis on the machine, etc. I remember hearing somewhere about a
piece of PostScript code that would limit the number of pages printed per job,
and only allow one copy to be printed. This might raise the frustration level
to the point where people would take the ONE copy to a copy service (what a
concept!). Does anyone know of such a program, and if so, where can I get it?
I would be happy to retreive it from another site and post it to the archives
if someone would point me in the right direction (surely we're not the only
ones with this kind of problem).
< Bob : S090726@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU : Funchess >
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 89 10:34:30 EST
From: bkgoodman@lynx.northeastern.edu
Subject: Ultima V
Does anyone know if they are planning on releasing Ultima V
for the Mac? Does anyone even care? I can't play it now that
my ][+'s monitor is dead.
-Brad Goodman
Internet or Bitnet - bkgoodman@lynx.northeastern.edu
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 89 09:39:27 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: WANTED: Terminal Program for Mac Plus
On Mon, 18 Sep 89 18:00:34 GMT you said:
>I have a friend who has a Mac Plus, and he wants a dumb terminal
>program (no terminal emulation needed; just file transfer). Is there
>a Kermit available for that system? If not, is there any other
>program available?
Yes, there is a Mac Kermit (available by ftp from cunixc.columbia.edu)
and from OKSTATE (for most UUCP sites, although the instructions are
a bit complex).
You would be more likely to get details about how to get Kermit and other
pulic domain or shareware communications software for the Macintosh from
info-mac@sumex-aim.Stanford.Edu (I'm copying info-mac to hurry that along
a little :-)
Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90]
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 89 14:48 CDT
From: Fred Seaton - WIU 309/298-1681 <MUCM000%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Zenith FTM monitor for Macs
I read in MacWeek a few weeks ago about some company that had come up
with a way to connect the Zenith FTM monitor to the Macintosh. But,
now that I need to find the information, I don't remember which issue
it was from. Could someone please refresh my memory?
Has anyone had any experience with this product on the Mac?
Thanks,
Fred Seaton
Academic Computing
Western Illinois University
mucm000@ecncdc.bitnet
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