Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (10/17/89)
Info-Mac Digest Mon, 16 Oct 89 Volume 7 : Issue 180
Today's Topics:
"Norton Utilities"-type Mac stuff?
Another Think C 4.0 rebel
Banners?
cocoa part 1/6
colorbox.exe
Coverting docs from Microsoft Word 3.0x to 4.0
DAs being locked out under Multifinder
FreshStart V1.2
General cdev bug? (maybe?)
Graf3d
Info-Mac Digest V7 #177
INIT and CDEV Suitcase?
Macintosh to NFS server
Mac Kermit posting - Apologies
Mac Software for Ham Radios?
Need Help with Pascal Compiler Choice
PICT 2 files?
Query -- data comm mac-unix
Slant Informal Laserfont
Sticking Seagate hard drive
strange Chooser phenomena
the trouble with SUM II (long msg)
Zirkle laser fonts
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Date: 10 Oct 89 10:57 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: "Norton Utilities"-type Mac stuff?
Date: 10 October 1989, 10:53:17 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: "Norton Utilities"-type Mac stuff?
I am interested in finding out what is available/what I should buy for my
newly-acquired Macs (& Ethernet network) which would be similarly useful as
the Norton stuff is for our MS-DOS machines. I am aware of, but not^
knowledgable about, Symantic Utilities for the MAC (SUM), including their
newest version, SUM II, but not about about any other products or even
whether SUM/II are worth buying. I've read MacUser/MacWeek reviews, but...
Could a few folks advise me, and I'll summarize to the net if there's
enough info? Thanks!
Ted
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 06:23:50 PDT
From: claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: Another Think C 4.0 rebel
This is not a bug. What is happening is you are referencing an unlocked
handle's data on the left hand side of an assignment which moves memory.
This is a documented no-no (in Inside Mac, it mentions it in relation to
the Pascal compiler, but that's all there was at the time). You cannot
rely upon the order of evaluation in cases such as this (refer to K&R),
therefore, you either store the value in a temporary (as you did) or you
lock the handle before making the call and unlock it afterward.
--
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
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Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 89 14:56:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Craig William Schell <cs2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Banners?
Does anyone know of a program that does the same thing as Banner?
For those of you who don't know what banner is, it is a program
that prints out messages out sideways using large fonts. It is good for
banners that say "Happy Birthday!" or "Welcome Home!" etc..
If you know of a program like this that prints w/o the problems banner had
please let me know. Is there something in the Info-Mac archives that I don't
know about?
Thanks in advance
Craig
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Date: Sat, 30 Sep 89 11:30:22 EDT
From: Zbigniew FiedorowicZ <fiedorow@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: cocoa part 1/6
Enclosed is binhexed stuffed copy of CoCoA, a symbolic commutative
algebra program for the Macintosh, developed by A. Giovini and
G. Niesi of the University of Genova, Italy.
I have split it into 6 parts
>From the authors:
WE HAVE VERY RECENTLY DEVELOPED A SMALL SPECIAL-PURPOSE SYSTEM
FOR COMMUTATIVE ALGEBRA; IT IS CALLED COCOA
AND HAS BEEN DESIGNED FOR OFFERING GREAT EASE OF USE AND FLEXIBILITY
TO THE MATHEMATICIAN WITH LITTLE OR NO KNOWLEDGE OF COMPUTERS.
SO IT IS 'MACINTOSH STYLE' WITH WINDOWS, MENUS, DIALOGS ETC; IT
HANDLES POLYNOMIALS, IDEALS, MATRICES, MODULES AND PERFORMS
STANDARD OPERATIONS BETWEEN THEM AS WELL AS MORE COMPLEX (LIKE
IDEAL INTERSECTION, GROBNER BASES, VARIABLES ELIMINATION,
SYZYGIES, HILBERT FUNCTION, POINCARE SERIES ETC.). IT IS FREE,
AND I HAVE TRIED TO POST IT TO INFO-MAC WITH NO SUCCESS
IN BINHEXED FORM. THOSE WHO WANT IT CAN SIMPLY SEND A BLANK
DISKETTE TO THE ADDRESS BELOW; IF ANYBODY HAVING IT IS ABLE DO
PUT IT INTO SOME PUBLIC-DOMAIN ARCHIVE, THE BETTER.
IF THOSE WHO USE IT LET US KNOW WHETHER THEY LIKE IT, WE WILL
BE HAPPY (THIS IS OUR ONLY FEE).
THE SYSTEM RUNS ONY ANY MAC (ALSO 512K), IT IS MULTIFINDER
FRIENDLY AND COMES WITH A WORD 3 USER'S MANUAL.
ALESSANDRO GIOVINI & GIANFRANCO NIESI
DEPT. OF MATHEMATICS, UNIVERSITY OF GENOVA,
V. L. B. ALBERTI 4, 16132, GENOVA, ITALY
COCOA@IGECUNIV.BITNET
ASTES@IGECUNIV.BITNET
[Archived as /info-mac/app/cocoa.hqx; 212K]
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 89 13:49 CDT
From: <JJM3383%TAMSIGMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: colorbox.exe
The file colorbox.hqx is a binhexed & stuffed version of a worthless utility
that displays the cross section of the RGBcolor cube along the red/blue, the
blue/green and the green/red axes. It will work on any color machine or any
machine w/32 bit quickdraw(although it is much more interesting on a color mach-
ine). The real purpose of the program however was to make sure that I had all
of the displayable colors raster-ops said I would with my new 264 colorboard
(great buy!). If on an eight bit machine however, it will display the closest
match of the color plane from your current pallete(mildly interesting). Also,
unless you are ready to waste a little time, shrink the window to a reasonable
size.
By the way if you do program in 24 bit color, drop me a line, I would be
interested to know what other demos have been developed.
Final note: colorbox is distributed on the Underware system. If you like
it, tuck a copy of it in your pants.
Enjoy,
...jeph
[Archived as /info-mac/app/colorbox.hqx; 8K]
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 20:14:01 CDT
From: "stephen h. gabel" <gabe@tank.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Coverting docs from Microsoft Word 3.0x to 4.0
I have run into a problem (I hesitate to call it a bug)
converting Word 3.02 documents which contain footnotes to
Word 4.0. The difficulty was that when the doc was opened
under 4.0, soft page breaks were inserted in odd places. I
would get a series of pages with one line per page.
The problem was apparently related to the line spacing. In
3.02, I had set it to -24pt [minus 24], which signifies fixed
line spacing. (With fixed spacing, Word does not adjust the
spacing to take account of superscripted footnote reference
marks.) The formatting in Word 4.0 worked correctly when I
reset the spacing to 24pt, or vanilla double spacing.
(Credit for the solution belongs to the good people at the
University of Chicago Computing Organizations, Academic and
Public Computing.)
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 8:09:37 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: DAs being locked out under Multifinder
Jim Henry in Chattanooga (615) 755-4398 or 886-6425 (with no email address
in his mail header!) writes:
>========================================================================
>Greetings from sunny Chattanooga!
>Why are my DAs locked up?
>I'm running MultiFinder 6.0.3
> System 6.0.3
> Finder 6.1
> RAM = 2560 k
>When I try to use a DA, I get a beep. If I trun off Multifinder & restart,
>they all work OK. I think this happened before & somehow
>the problem disappeared. How can I make the problem disappear again?
>
>JIM HENRY
>
Jim,
You need to add the file 'DA Handler' from your distribution disks to your
system folder. Reboot and get back to work...
tom c
ARPA: tcora@pica.army.mil BITNET: Tcora@DACTH01.BITNET
UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!tcora
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 89 09:02:03 PDT
From: bob@acns.nwu.edu
Subject: FreshStart V1.2
FreshStart is an environment manager for the Mac, allowing users to enable,
disable, and reorder INITs at boot time. Users can also choose between Finder
and MultiFinder, and initial DAs and/or applications to load when the system
starts. These choices can be saved as environments, which can be quickly
selected at boot time. This allows the user to switch between two or more
environments with a few simple commands when restarting. FreshStart can be
configured to either prompt for the environment every boot, or execute a
default environment unless specifically invoked.
FreshStart also has the ability to remove files from the system folder, and
still have them be located by the owner of the file. For example, control
panel documents can be removed from the system folder to a subfolder, and the
control panel still locates and uses the files automatically. FreshStart can
be configured to scan the system folder every boot, if desired, and move
documents to an appropriate folder. FreshStart can be user configured to move
files for almost any application.
This is version 1.2 of FreshStart, which fixes many bugs in previous versions.
This version is compatable with QuicKeys, Suitcase, OnCue, QuickMail, HandOff,
Cache Control, and many others. A list of the known compatible INITs is
included in the enclosed documentation.
FreshStart is shareware ($25) by Bob Hablutzel.
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/freshstart-12.hqx; 80K]
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 89 05:14:41 EDT
From: Lloyd%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: General cdev bug? (maybe?)
I'm not sure if this would qualify as a bug, but it sure isn't the most
gracefully solved way of dealing with the problem.
Ok here it is:
I have a Mac se/30 40 meg HD, 1 meg of memory.
Seeing as how this is a black and white system, I figured I'd take out the
color cdev from my system folder on the HD, no problem. (ok fine, I know it
is running color quickdraw, but let me continue)
However, when I open up the control panel and go to change the backround
pattern under the general cdev the control panel informs me that it
cannot perform the request because it cannot get the resources it needs
(the color cdev info, I guess)
Ok, so the control panel closes out the general cdev and fills it with
a lightly dotted pattern, fine.
Ok, I then close the control panel, and low and behold the pattern I requested
is there! however, it is in a patch created by the absence of the control
panel.
If I move windows around, the backround pattern changes where the windows
are moved out of.
I dont know if I would call this a bug, but it sure is an ugly result.
oh, I did this all in the finder.
I realize I should have the color cdev in the system folder.
I realize that this is really no big deal.
However, the fact that the result of this is ugly, someone at apple might
want to know about it and fix it.
Ok, just something wierd that happened to me at 4:30 in the morning while
playing around.
Christopher Lloyd Bitnet: Lloyd@umass
Student Supervisor Internet: Lloyd%umass@cunyvm.cuny.edu
General Consulting Services
University Computing Center
University of Massachusetts
Amherst MA, 01002
Disclaimer: Sorry, making disclaimers is not in my job description.
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 09:02:57 EDT
From: IO81129%MAINE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Graf3d
I have been recently scanning the IM digests and the GRAF3d stuff sounds
quite interesting and a time saver, avoid reinventing the wheel. The only
bad point is that I can't find any MacTutor magazines( never have seen one in
this IBM land). Is there any other source for this material, hopefully in
an inexpensive( read cheap) form such as a file in the archives somewhere?
Thanks in advance for any feedback,
Mark Rousseau IO81129@Maine.
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 07:46:36 CDT
From: CB Lih <CL06076%UAFSYSB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #177
This is in reply to the question about the beep when trying to use
a DA under MultiFinder. The DA Handler file is probably missing from
the System Folder. I believe it can be found in the System Folder of
the Systems Tools disk.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=--> CB Lih <--=
Macintosh Support / Handicap Computer Support
BITNET: CL06076@UAFSYSB AppleLink: U0669 Phone: 501-575-2905
US Mail: ADSB 220, University of Arkansas
155 Razorback Road, Fayetteville, AR 72701, USA
Acknowledge-To: <CL06076@UAFSYSB>
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 12:35:07 GMT
From: "J.M.L.Martin" <LUCTHSCH%BDILUC11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: INIT and CDEV Suitcase?
Dear fellow-MacIsts,
I suppose many of you are stuck with the same problem as I am. You just need
all these magnificent DAs, Fonts, INITs and CDEVs, but can't get them all on
a single 800 K system disk. You just got a copy of Suitcase II or Juggler,
which allows you to use Fonts and DAs on a file server. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE
INITs and CDEVs? Some of these, especially the indispensible Boomerang, eat
up lots of precious disk space: SuperLaserSpool, with its bad habit of making
a copy of every printer driver you use, is even worse. IS THERE ANY INIT OR
CDEV WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO LOAD OTHER INITs and/or CDEVs OFF A FILE SERVER?
At least as far as the INITs are concerned, it should not be too difficult
(since it can be done for FONTs and DRVRs(=DAs)). If there is nothing availbale
, does anyone have a clue (Inside Macintosh is not very helpful) on how to
write an INIT that just opens and launches INITs in other files? If you have,
but no time to write it yourself, I'll try - in case it works, I'll put it
on the net as freeware. I THINK SUCH THINGS AS SUITCASE AND THE THING I AM
DISCUSSING SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM TO BEGIN WITH.
Happy Mack-Ing,
Jan M.L.Martin
Quantum Chemistry, Department SBM
Limburgs Universitair Centrum
Universitaire Campus, B-3610 Diepenbeek
Belgium
Progress: When Hungary was Communist, there used to be no consumer goods,
so nobody could buy them.
Since it started becoming 'free market', everything is available
(even Western fashion-wear) - but nobody can pay for it.
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 89 14:30:29 EDT
From: Peter Furmonavicius <PETER%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Macintosh to NFS server
We now have software on our large IBM mainframe that will allow it to act as
an NFS server. What types of software is available for the Macintosh to allow
it to use an NFS host? I know about the Caymon Gatorbox. Are there other
options? Thanks in advance.
[ Yale University Computer Center ] Peter Furmonavicius
[ 175 Whitney Avenue ] Manager, Systems and Programming
[ P.O. Box 2112 ]
[ New Haven, CT 06520 ] (203) 432-6600
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 09:49:07 EDT
From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Mac Kermit posting - Apologies
I must apologize for not correctly noting that the 0.97(57) release of
Mac Kermit which I submitted was a test version. I was also unaware
of the bugs which were associated with that release. There has been an
updated version, 0.98(62), which I have recently submitted (with the proper
note about its being a test version :-) which appears to have taken care
of the problems.
I have posted these versions, albeit they are test versions, because they
offer significant enhancements to Mac Kermit. A number of users here
prefer the new versions in spite of the bugs because they offer faster file
transfer and a sizeable scrolling window, a feature some folks appear to
find essential. I thought others on the nets might be interested in
evaluating a copy.
Apologies for any confusion I may have caused - Gregg
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Gregg TeHennepe | Academic Computing and User Services
Minicomputer Specialist | Box 5482
BITNET: gateh@conncoll | Connecticut College
Phone: (203) 447-7681 | New London, CT 06320
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 15:52:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Yozie <dy0b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mac Software for Ham Radios?
Does anyone know if there's commercial Macintosh software available for
ham radio communication? If so, what sorts of things do these programs do?
(please respond via electronic mail)
Thanks,
David Yozie.
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 89 06:40:33 PDT
From: claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: Need Help with Pascal Compiler Choice
If you're looking at either TML II or THINK Pascal and are trying to make
the decision primarily based upon source-level debugging, then THINK Pascal
should be the hands-down winner. I happen to like many things about MPW
better than the THINK environments (editor, Rez & DeRez, Projector, etc),
but the ThP debugger is superb, runs on a 1MB machine, and the compiler
generates better code than do the other Pascal compilers. SADE will require
at least a 2MB system and, if you want to be able to look at your source in
MPW, at least 4MB. This is in addition to being an incredibly arcane
debugging environment (albeit very powerful and extensible). Although
almost as arcane, I would actually recommend "The Debugger" by Jasik Designs
over SADE (especially now, with the Incremental Build System included). As
steep as the learning curve is with The Debugger, I didn't find it as steep
as the SADE curve, and the support that Jasik gives his customers is great.
ThP's debugger, on the other hand, has almost no learning curve and satisfies
all "normal" needs.
--
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
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Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:13:42 MST
From: berry@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Joel R. Berry)
Subject: PICT 2 files?
Dear Sir,
I am working for a robotics company that uses the Pixel Paint 2.0.
We take the image receated & saved in the PICT 2 format and convert it to a
data format that we use for controlling a machine. We have had a program that
reads in the PixelPaint 1.0 files and it works great. But that same program
will not read in a PixelPaint 2.0 file. We have choosen to use the PICT 2
format. The question we have is where can we get a simple source code to
read in a PICT 2 file? We have done research in the INSIDE MACINTOSH Vol. 5
but it is not clear.
Any help in overcomming this trivial problem would be very appreciated.
Joel R. Berry
Robotic Technology
Temp, AZ
P.S. - we are an apple VAR. Is there a way to read APDA using internet?
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 15:38:28 EDT
From: Christopher Owens <owens-christopher@YALE.EDU>
Subject: Query -- data comm mac-unix
I've become confused by the protocols, file formats and software used
for moving files back and forth between Macintoshes and Un*x machines.
I know about Kermit and (x,y,z)modem; I also believe that there are
some things built on top of xmodem, like mbput and mbget. What else
is there? What are the schemes for sending the three forks of a Mac
file to/from the Un*x filesystem -- I understand that some protocols
bundle the forks together and some ship them as separate files. What
about various compressing and uncompressing programs like stuffit and
packit, and binhex. What is MacBinary? How do these things interact
with the transport mechanisms?
Could some knowledgeable person please post an explanation of this,
along with some hints about advantages and disadvantages of various
approaches? For now, I'm not particularly interested in protocols
that require ethernet/tcp-ip connections, since I primarily transfer
files over dialup lines.
Many thanks in advance.
ARPA: Owens-Christopher@cs.yale.edu
UUCP: {harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!Owens-Christopher
BITNET: Owens@yalecs
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 89 19:56:18 MST
From: Bruce Long <ICBAL%ASUACAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Slant Informal Laserfont
This is the Slant Informal laser font.
[Archived as /info-mac/font/slant-informal.hqx; 42K]
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 17:05:03 CDT
From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein)
Subject: Sticking Seagate hard drive
The internal 40meg drive in my Mac II developed the now infamous problem
with spinning at startup. I thought that since Apple has finally announced
an official policy regarding those sticking drives I just go to the dealer
and have it fixed. Tough luck. My drive is Seagate not Quantum and the
replacement would cost me $630. Since I am not afraid to look inside the Mac
I have opened it and verified that the drive does not spin when powered up
after an overnight break. I also noticed that the upper part of the drive's
rotor is visible between the metal enclosure and the electronics board. A long
and thin plastic stick allows me to rotate it a bit. It appears that it is all
what is needed to get the drive working again. For now I just "push-start"
the drive each time it gets stuck. I am not sure, however, how soon I will
get tired of this procedure. Does anybody know if Seagate has a factory
warranty longer than Apple and if it is possible to approach them directly?
Robert (GA0095@SIUCVMB.Bitnet)
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 16:56:43 EDT
From: Peter Furmonavicius <PETER%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: strange Chooser phenomena
Today I had the strangest thing happen to me. When I selected the "Chooser",
instead of having the normal chooser dialog box appear, I had a small strange
little icon appear on the desktop instead. The other da's all seem to work
normally. The various virus detectors didn't detect anything when they ran
against the disk. The only thing that finally fixed this (if in fact its
cleared up), was using the font/da mover to remove the chooser from the system
and then copying in a 'fresh' chooser from a system distribution diskette.
Anyone else have any strange chooser anomalies like this?
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Date: Tue, 10 OCT 89 19:19:46 PDT
From: "Micro Mauler" <MICRO2.SCHWER@crvax.sri.com>
Subject: the trouble with SUM II (long msg)
Summary: SUM II, a great product, but apparently version II was
pushed out the door too soon.
Conclusion: Do not depend on either of the SUM II Shield Control
Device, Volume Save Options to create a backup of the
VRR on a floppy. SYMANTEC's tech support is less than
ideal, but who's is?
Story (long): I just upgraded from SUM 1.1 to SUM II (a utility
for recovering crashed disks and files, which I *highly*
recommend.). SUM II offers several very nice new features,
however one feature that I think most users will want to
use, does not work as per the manual.
The bogus feature is the ability to automatically save a backup
copy of the Volume Restore Record (VRR) to a separate volume,
i.e. a floppy, upon system shutdown.
The idea here is that SUM will automatically update the VRR (a
snapshot of what and where things are on a hard disk) upon
shutdown, but this vital file is always written to the hard disk
it has just recorded. If your SUM protected disk crashes, you
need a copy of the VRR to help SUM recover the files in the most
expeditious manner. Thus, you should save a copy of the VRR to a
floppy, along with whatever else you deem necessary to recover
>From a disaster, e.g. a small system folder and the SUM Volume
Information Files (VIF's) for the disks you want to recover.
In the past, with SUM 1.1, I used MacroMaker to copy the VRR to a
floppy and then shutdown my Mac; simple and effective, unless your
icons tend to drift a bit on the screen! But with SUM II there
is a new feature that is supposed to help automate this routine
procedure. To activate this new feature one:
1. Selects the "Volume Save Options" button under the "SUM
Shield Options" accessed via the SUM Shield's Control Panel
entry.
2. Next check the "Save Records on Supplemental Volume" box
and the "Use Specific Volume _Volume Name_" radio button;
3. Select "Option key DISABLES updates" radio button under the
"Update Records on ShutDown" check box.
Now upon ShutDown you (and the people at SYMANTEC) would expect
SUM II to update the VRR and copy it to the floppy volume called
_VolumeName_., but what happens is this:
1. All floppy volumes are ejected from the floppy drives;
including _VolumeName_, if it happened to have been inserted;
2. SUM II updates the VRR on the hard disk;
3. the Mac Shuts Down.
NOTE: You *do not* have a copy of the VRR on _VolumeName_!
This was neither the behavior I wanted nor the feature I
expected, so I called SYMANTEC Tech Support (408)253-2167.
1. The first tech rep I spoke with told me that the above
described feature was intened to save VRR's for multiple volumes
and *not* to make backup copies of the VRR to floppies; she mentioned
another technique for doing this which requires launching SUM's
DiskClinic and behaves much like the old SUM 1.1 procedure for
copying the VRR to a floppy. Well I am not Mac hacque, so I thought
maybe I had misread the manual. I retreated to the manual and
after a few minutes of studious study convinced myself that the
"feature" *should* work as described above *and* in the manual.
2. The second tech rep I spoke with (Leslie) was very personable
and had me convinced he knew what he was talking about (:-{).
Leslie told me, *my* problem was that I was not reinserting the
floppy _VolumeName_ after it was initially ejected under the
ShutDown operation. This is starting to sound bogus even to me.
But what the heck, I'll give Leslie the benefit of the doubt and
try it out. As you can easily guess, once the Mac kicks out a
floppy under a ShutDown operation it basically doesn't give a
fly fig what you stick in that drive, it ain't gonna recognize it!
3. I called Leslie back and told him he was full of Christmas
cheer about 2 months early! He put me on hold and then came back
and admitted that this particular feature "doesn't work as
intended." He recommended I use the other radio button option of
"Prompt for volume to use at save time." under the "Save Record
on Supplemental Volume" check box. This "feature" works fine on
my Mac II (the one time I tried it), but failed to work
consistently on my Mac SE: on the SE this feature has a habit of
inconsistently renaming the target floppy volume from
_VolumeName_ to whatever your hard disk is named and *not*
copying the VRR anyway! Leslie admitted this obscure behavior is
a know bug, but not reproducible.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 89 15:01:52 CDT
From: bobs@saintjoe.edu (Bob Schenk)
Subject: Zirkle laser fonts
Attached is Zirkle, a laser font family with four members. It
is the only font family I have seen in the public domain.
It is a mighty strange family, and I can't guarantee that you
will ever find a use for it, but the price is right.
standard disclaimers apply.
bobs@saintjoe.edu
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