Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (10/20/89)
Info-Mac Digest Fri, 20 Oct 89 Volume 7 : Issue 182
Today's Topics:
Administrivia
Chooser Question
CLIPS 4.2 AI Program
DAs being locked out under MF
EVENTS???
HD problems....
HyperTalk problem
Imagewriter Problems
Info-Mac Digest V7 #177
MacPassword - Part 1 of 4
Note to UK users
Pop Char
PopChar INIT
request for information about Macintalk
RGBView 1.0 Part 1 of 4
SE 2.5 Meg Upgrade Problem.
SoftPC
trouble with a PAGEMAKER file
Virtual Memory
Virtual Memory Clarification
WindowShade
Word 4.0 on a 512KE
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1989 1:35:46 PDT
From: The Moderators <Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Subject: Administrivia
Info-Mac has survived the quake!
Bill
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Date: 15 Oct 1989 11:43:57 EST
From: DECNET.DEFAULT@aeolus.tamu.edu
Subject: Chooser Question
Hi.
I would like to know if there is a way to modify the Chooser DA
so that certain printers do not show up in the listing while remaining
on the same LocalTalk network. We try to keep the Macs set on which
printer they are supposed to output to, but people keep changing this.
I tried locking the LaserWriter system document, but this causes other
problems, including not changing the processing documents name. All
of our Macs (7 SE's, 1 Plus) are connected to a Shiva NetModem, so we
can't split the network - at least not without a lot of excess costs.
Also, could someone please tell me whether or not a Mac IIcx
can be purchased with a second internal FDHD drive? The way I have
heard it, there is no external floppy drive port on the unit, and
have yet to see any advertised with two internal drives. All the
'knowledgeable' salespeople that I have asked either told me that
they come with two drives (although they claim they don't order
any of those), or that, if you got a second internal FDHD, you
would lose the 20 meg hard drive that comes on the basic unit. I
would like to hear from someone who has bought a IIcx if they are
able to get another FDHD, or how they have worked around it. My
only chance at getting my superiors to purchase a color Mac is if
the price is low enough, but I insist on having two floppy drives.
If there is not a way to add a second drive - and I hope Apple is
listening in - then perhaps Apple has screwed up again. Probably
not for the last time, either.
If someone could send the info to me, or the to net, I
would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks.
Dave Martin
Geochemical & Environmental Research Group
Dept. of Oceanography, Texas A&M University
BITNET: BROOKS@TAMVXOCN
INTERNET: BROOKS@NEPTUN.TAMU.EDU
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 89 7:39:02 EDT
From: Kenneth Sussmann (PBMA) <sussmann@pica.army.mil>
Subject: CLIPS 4.2 AI Program
Here is CLIPS version 4.2, an AI program. I downloaded it from
the ShockWave BBS (315) 673-4894. The following is the included
README file.
NASA's CLIPS expert system shell for the MAC
CLIPS was developed by the Artificial Intelligence Section of the
Mission Planning and Analysis Division at NASA/Johnson Space
Center. It was designed to allow AI research, development, and
delivery on conventional computers. Thus it was written in 'C'
and is portable to just about any machine. CLIPS SUPPORTS:
Forward-chaining, Rete algorithm for pattern matching, wildcards
and variables in single and multiple fields, externally defined
functions (i.e. link to your own code). According to their
literature, "CLIPS meets or outperforms most microcomputer and
many minicomputer based AI tools".
Ken Sussmann
U.S. Army Production Base Modernization Activity
Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey 07806-5000
[Archived as /info-mac/app/clips-42-part1.hqx; 155K
/info-mac/app/clips-42-part2.hqx; 120K]
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 12:59:01 CDT
From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein)
Subject: DAs being locked out under MF
henry, i can't respond to you directly because your net address
got somehow chopped off from your posting. The explanation to
your problem is fairly simple. To execute DAs under MultiFinder
a dummy application DA Handler must be loaded in memory. If there
is not enough memory to load it (or is fragmented too much to get
large enouugh chunk), DA Handler will just beep and ignore your
request. Switch over to Finder's partition and check utilization
mof memory. You will find the confirmation there...
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 89 17:21:35 SST
From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: EVENTS???
I was writing a test program with 4 windows in Think C 3.0
I also used printf and stdio.
My problem comes when I write the main event loop.
After calling ok = GetNextEvent, if ok is TRUE then I proceed further.
For each event, I used printf as feedback. The funny thing is, when
I am not doing anything, the program kept printing "update", meaning
that an update event occurs. I thought a null event is more
appropriate.
(I am running Multifinder too)
Please, can anyone tell me what's wrong?
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 08:30 EDT
From: WATTS@urhep
Subject: HD problems....
Hey y'all (Texas greeting),
Seems Apple has been having some more trouble with internal 40 and 80 MB
harddrives. Infact, they just issued (about 2-3 days ago) another recall.
This one applys to all Quantum HDs of the 40 and 80 MB size. They must have
variation code 0032, 0034, or 0058 on them. This code can be found on the end
of the drive near the 50-pin SCSI connector (if you open your mac, you void
your 90 day...etc.). The symptoms are exactly as described in issue #178 by
the guy with the IIc.
The problem (I think) stems from the fact that these drives don't get enough
use. The grease, unexercised, hardens up -- thus the drives can't get up to
speed. So the fix is to replace the ROM in the HD unit. The new ROM will
exercise the drive, to loosen up the grease, before reading data. At least,
that is what the apple guy told me.
Gordon.
BITNET: WATTS@UORHEP
ARPANET: watts@ruthep.rutgers.edu
US: Gordon Watts
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
Univ. of Rochester
Rochester, N.Y.
14627-0011
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Date: 13 October 1989 12:02:01 CST
From: "E. Paige Weston 413-3045" <U50343%UICVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HyperTalk problem
How can I get a HyperTalk script to read what's in "Card Info . . ."? I
want to write a background script that will make all the buttons on each
card flash, sequentially. Something like:
repeat with x = 1 to the number of card buttons
repeat six times
set the hilite of card button x to not the hilite of card button x
wait five
end repeat
end repeat
I've settled for hard-scripting each card in the stack ("with x = 1 to 9,"
etc.). Is there a better way?
Thanks.
Paige Weston/novice scripter/University of Illinois at Chicago
U50343@UICVM.BITNET
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 89 12:25:18 PDT
From: shahryar@sutro.sfsu.edu (Shahryar G. Hashemi)
Subject: Imagewriter Problems
Hello there.......
I work at one of the labs at San Francisco State University. We have
currently several appletalk imagewriters but they all seem to be acting
very weird {paper jams and feeding problems}.
I was wondering if you know of any other printers {non-Apple} that can
be a good replacement for us. We do need these replacement printers to
be able to hook up to our AppleTalk Network {by adding a simple card} and
not be full of a lot of complicated work.
If you could let me know ASAP about any info you have, it would be very
grateful.
Thanks,
Shahryar G. Hashemi
shahryar@SUTRO.SFSU.edu
P.S.--Please also send a CC of the notes to me to john@STURO.SFSU.edu and
kavehm@SUTRO.SFSU.edu.
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1989 05:04:42 PDT
From: lsr@apple.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #177
In article <8910110502.AA22962@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) writes:
> Date: 4 Oct 89 14:45:00 EDT
> From: "Charles E. Bouldin" <bouldin@sed.ceee.nist.gov>
> Subject: Hiding Windows of Inactive Apps. Under MF (reprise)
>
> it does work. However, to reverse, "setting aside" an application, one
must
> select the DIMMED application names under the Apple menu. Dimmed
selections
> are not supposed to do anything! It is curious that, time and again,
apple
If you look arefully, the menu item is not dimmed. The small icon is
grayed to show that the application has been Set Aside, but the
application name is normal.
Nevertheless, I agree that this isn't the best user interface. You really
would like to have some kind of icon for set aside applications.
Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc.
Object Specialist
Internet: lsr@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr
AppleLink: Rosenstein1
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Date: Tue Oct 3 13:36:15 1989
From: microsoft!arts@uunet.uu.net
Subject: MacPassword - Part 1 of 4
MacPassword v3.2.1 is a password utility program designed to protect your
hard disk drive from use by unauthorized users. Note: The manual is in
MacWrite format and you MUST read it before using MacPassword for the
first time! StuffIt is needed for decompressing this file. This is a DEMO
Version that will only work for two months after you first use it.
Registered users get the necessary keycode to unlock all the features and
create an unlimited life version.
Thanks for your support!
Art Schumer - October 2, 1989
microsoft!arts@uunet.UU.NET
microsoft!arts@beaver.cs.washington.edu
D0560 (AppleLink)
SCHUMER (MacNet)
[76004,557] (CompuServe)
GPSART (GEnie)
GPSART (DELPHI)
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/macpassword-321.hqx; 117K]
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 12:33:31 CDT
From: "Mark R. Williamson" <MARK@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Note to UK users
If you are at a JANET site, please be sure that you are authorized to
receive mail before requesting files from LISTSERV@RICE, because it must
send them by mail. Our postmaster is getting tired of the rejection
messages, some of which are fairly cryptic (like returning the mail with
no indication at all that it is being rejected). Thank you.
Mark R. Williamson, Rice University, Houston, TX; MARK@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Coordinating BITNET redistribution of Info-Mac archive files from Rice.
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 16:58 EST
From: Thomas R. Blake <TBLAKE%BINGVAXA.BITNET@bingvmc.cc.binghamton.edu>
Subject: Pop Char
(* Sigh *),
Pop Char looks like a lot of fun, but it bombs MacWrite 4.6 out on my SE
real bad.
I go up to the top-left-hand-corner, and hold. I pull down to the
character I want. I let up. I get a System Error (ID = 10). (*Heavy Sigh*)
I took out all of my other INITs ... no help. Seems to work in other
applications.
Particulars:
Mac SE 1 Meg.
System 6.0.2
MacWrite V4.6 (I.E. Pre-Claris)
TBLAKE@BINGVAXA.BITNET Thomas R. Blake
TBLAKE@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu Lead Programmer/Analyst
Academic Computing
SUNY-Binghamton
P.S. Claris people: Thanks for Public Folder!
I'm certain it'll get a lot of use on campus.
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 89 09:48:40 MST
From: ICBAL%ASUACAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: PopChar INIT
Guenther Blaschek is to be commended for creating the PopChar INIT and
making it available as freeware. (I-M #178) Apple should make this
great INIT part of their System software from now on.
As someone who frequently uses the Symbol font in day-to-day use, I know
for certain that the PopChar INIT will save lots of time and effort.
Thanks Guenther!
Bruce Long
Department of Mathematics
Arizona State University BITNET: ICBAL@ASUACAD
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1989 10:25:44 EDT
From: MON2IER@sunrise.acs.syr.edu (Mark Monmonier)
Subject: request for information about Macintalk
I would greatly appreciate information about the READER and MACINTALK
New mail on node SUNRIS from SMTP%"Postmaster" (10:16:45)
procedures in the Macintosh speech interface (SpeechIntf). I am using
Turbo Pascal and want to pass a string variable genrated in my program
to READER. The Turbo Pascal manual only mentions these procedures in
a list in its appendix; Inside Macintosh apparently says nothing about
the speech interface and Macintalk; and I can find no books or other
information on it. The Turbo Pascal manual mentions a December 1985
issue of the 'Mac Software Supplement Document' but I cannot locate a
copy. The demo program supplied with Turbo Pascal works in a most
promising way but because it also 'demos' several other, unrelated
features, it doesn't help me get my string variable into READER.
If anyone has a simple program focussed on READER and MACINTALK, I would
be most grateful.
Mark Monmonier
Department of Geography
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-1160
(315) 443-5632 or -2605
Mon2ier@SUNRISE.BITNET
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1989 13:51:39 EDT
From: PEPKE@scri1.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke)
Subject: RGBView 1.0 Part 1 of 4
This is RGBView version 1.0. You need at least Stuffit 1.5.1 to
decode it.
RGBView is an application which reads 24 bit RGB image files and
converts them to 8 bit color to view on any Macintosh with a color
monitor and color QuickDraw. It can read several different RGB
image formats and write a couple of different 8 bit image and
palette formats. Programmers can write additional file readers
and writers.
RGBView is in the public domain and is free of charge.
[Archived as /info-mac/app/rgb-view-part1.hqx; 161K
/info-mac/app/rgb-view-part2.hqx; 148K]
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 89 19:26:04 PDT
From: nardi@cs.nps.navy.mil (Peter Nardi)
Subject: SE 2.5 Meg Upgrade Problem.
Help!
I have a MAC-SE with a 20 meg internal hard drive. I recently
upgraded to 2.5 megs, using 1 meg simms. I performed the upgrade myself
following the guidelines in the feb88 issue of MacUser, Installing the simms
in group "A" and removing the 256K resistor from the logic board. Everything
worked fine, "About finder" told me the new memory was available, and when I
turned on the ram cache I did notice an improvement in system performance.
All my applications liked the extra memory, and there was great rejoicing
throughout the land.
Then I tried to format a blank floppy in the internal drive, and the system
crashed in a most specticular way (lights, sound, the works!). Anyway, when I
tried it again, the same resulted. After repeated tries, I now get one of 2
outcomes when I initialize a blank floppy; Either the crash described earlier,
or the system reboots itself.
What's wrong?!?!?! Is it hardware or software or both? I've tried different
combinations of removing my inits, turning ram cache on/off but nothing seems
to work. I'm running system 6.0.3, finder 6.1. Any (and I do mean any!) help
would be greatly appreciated.
Pete Nardi
nardi@cs.nps.navy.mil
Naval Postgraduate School
Monterey, Ca. 93940
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 89 09:20:29 LCL
From: Gene Smith <ESMITH@suvm.bitnet>
Subject: SoftPC
This is a summary of the responses I received as a result of my
question concerning the software product SoftPC.
Pros - Everyone responding said the package did all that was expected of it.
Each said that it was a cost effective solution.
Most said that they have not found an application that would not run
(software that was mentioned that they found worked just fine was
Lotus, Excel, multiple word processing packages, even SAS-PC)
No hardware is required. Just install the software and run.
No disk partitioning is required. All PC files are stored in a single
Macintosh folder.
A laserwriter is supported.
Cutting from a PC application and pasting into a Macintosh
application is supported and gives the user access to all Mac fonts.
Cons - The execution speed is that of an XT. One person estimated the speed
at around 4.7Mhz.
It handles only CGA.
Programs are limited to those that can run in 640K.
Thanks to all those who responded and to Darryl who took the time to
actually give me a demo of the product. Due to the positive input concerning
this product I plan to acquire the software in the near future.
As Always,
Gene Smith
ESMITH@SUVM.bitnet
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 15:14 EDT
From: CZMUREK%drew.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: trouble with a PAGEMAKER file
Path: gamma!czmurek
>From: czmurek@drew.bitnet
Newsgroups: net.info-mac
Subject: trouble with a PAGEMAKER file
Message-ID: <14872.2535fbc0@drew.bitnet>
Date: 13 Oct 89 15:14:08 GMT
News-Moderator: Approval required for posting to net.info-mac
Lines: 15
to all who may be of help:
I was working on a Mac Plus with Pagemaker 3.0 for some time
trying to complete a 15 page document ( with no graphics ). I was on
the 13 page when I loaded it yesterday and it came up and crashed. I
got this GURU MEDITATION style number for the error and I had to
reboot. When I did and tried to load it again the damn thing told me
that it was not a PAGEMAKER file. It has the PAGEMAKER icon but
nothing works. I tried to pull it up in WORDSTAR and Quark but no
luck. I really need to get this back because I no longer hae a copy
of the whole thing. If anyone has any suggestions for me please send
them by Monday or I am a dead duck!!!!
Thanks in advance...
-Christine
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 89 15:16 CDT
From: Jeff Robbin/Sam McHan <ASTJLRPA%UIAMVS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Virtual Memory
Due to the fact that Sam McHan has limited bitnet access, I am posting this
message from him:
===========================================================================
As expected I received plenty of requests for the virtual memory CDEV I
have. Unfortunately, I cannot distribute and probably shouldn't have the
CDEV I discussed (see referenced note).
I am sorry to see that Apple has lost the spirit of the hobbyist.
Sorry guys.
>From: uunet!apple.com!lsr (Larry Rosenstein)
>To: ASTJLRPA%UIAMVS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu, ramona.uu.NET!mchan
>Cc: lsr@apple.com
>Subject: Re: Virtual Memory
>Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1989 04:52:46 PDT
>References: <8910130817.AA20199@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
>Message-Id: <12698910140452lsr@Apple.COM>
>Organization: Objects-R-Us, Apple Computer, Inc.
>
>In article <8910130817.AA20199@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
>Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) writes:
>
>> I believe I have the thing you are looking for (in reference to virtual
>> memory note posted on Info-Mac). It's a CDEV from Apple, apparently a
>> beta, that has my 4 meg IIcx thinking it's a 14 meg system (the upper
>> limit). Drop me a note if interested.
>
>No such CDEV has been released by Apple. If this is an early part of
>System 7.0, then it should not have been released to anyone outside Apple,
>and shouldn't be uploaded or redistributed.
>
>Larry Rosenstein, Apple Computer, Inc.
>Object Specialist
>
>Internet: lsr@Apple.com UUCP: {nsc, sun}!apple!lsr
>AppleLink: Rosenstein1
--
Sam McHan mchan@ramona.uu.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 20:19 CDT
From: Jeff Robbin <ASTJLRPA%UIAMVS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Virtual Memory Clarification
Note: I'm sorry, but after compiling all of the messages I received
regarding Virtual Memory, the truth seems to be disheartening.
--
According to Apple, there is no Virtual Memory CDEV officially
released to the public. The only Virtual Memory CDEV available is
the one from Connectix for $195.00. Apple will include Virtual
memory with the first release of System 7.0. (I hope!). Thanks for
all of your responses.
--
Jeff Robbin
University of Iowa
astjlrpa@uiamvs
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Date: 13 Oct 89 11:08:51 PDT (Fri)
From: 6sigma!blm@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Brian Matthews)
Subject: WindowShade
In Info-Mac, Rob Johnston writes:
| WindowShade is a unique window enhancement utility for the Macintosh.
|WindowShade gets its name from the old window blinds that roll up when given
|a sturdy pull. This utility brings the same functionality to Macintosh
|windows.
This is a neat little utility, unfortunately it doesn't work with Oliver
Steele's (steele@cs.unc.edu) Dragger (version 1.4), and right now Dragger
is more useful to me, but it would be nice to have WindowShade too. Is there
a newer version of Dragger, and if not, is anyone (like Oliver or Rob)
looking into the incompatibility?
Thanx for the neat utilities, now if they'd only work together...
---
Brian L. Matthews blm@6sigma.UUCP
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 89 12:59:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hunter Morgan <sm5g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Word 4.0 on a 512KE
Well I am afraid that there is no hope of getting word 4.0 to run any
faster on your
512 KE unless you were to add memory.
-If I am wrong, please tell me because I could use a performance boost
of 4.0 on my
SE.
-Scott Morgan
sm5g@andrew.cmu.edu
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