Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (10/26/89)
Info-Mac Digest Thu, 26 Oct 89 Volume 7 : Issue 186
Today's Topics:
EVENTS??? (Info-Mac Digest, Volume 7 : Issue 182)
Exodus X-server for Macintosh
FONTs --> NFNTs
Info-Mac Digest V7 #183 (2 msgs)
Info-Mac Digest V7 #184
Installing System 6.04
MacinTalk on Mac II
Mac won't boot HD into Multifinder, but will boot from floppy
MPW source maintenance & change files
NT control switch limit?
PICS format
Portrait Display and Macintosh SE
Princeton Graphics Monitor w/ IIci?
Public Folder Problem
Running Ibm software on Apple.
Safe Shutdown/Restart XCMDs for HyperCard.
searchreplace XCMD 2.0
SendPS
sound format
SysStat Menu Trouble
Which 19-inch monitor?
WindChooser
Windowshade Bug???
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 09:19:57 PDT
From: 1GTLEJS%CALSTATE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Ed Skochinski)
Subject: EVENTS??? (Info-Mac Digest, Volume 7 : Issue 182)
> The funny thing is, when
> I am not doing anything, the program kept printing "update", meaning
> that an update event occurs.
>
> Please, can anyone tell me what's wrong?
It sounds to me like you are not surrounding your update code with
BeginUpdate and EndUpdate calls. See Inside Mac for details (I forget which
volume).
Ed Skochinski
1GTLEJS@CALSTATE.BITNET
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 03:11 EDT
From: "John L. Jamison, VAX System Analyst" <JAMISON@swat.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Exodus X-server for Macintosh
I scanned through back-issues of MacWeek today trying to find out if there
exists a "Can-be-done-today" solution for getting a Mac to be an X-server
for a VMS machine. I found a few points spread out among several articles:
o Exodus from White Pine Software, Amherst NH is shipping, works
on any 1-MB macintosh, and will use TSSnet DECnet driver,
(somebody's) TCP-IP driver, and will work with the forthcoming
MacTCP drivers from APDA.
o The Mac X server will be shipped with System 7.0
o The Mac X server will use AppleTalk, EtherTalk, DECnet, and/or
TCP/IP as a transport layer (perhaps TokenTalk as well?)
o Digital is going to publish a DECWindows X server for MS-DOS
If Exodus uses DECnet, then it can be an X server for VMS _today_, right?
TCP/IP allows it to be an X-server for any Unix X11R3 system _today_, right?
And, if they are supporting Appletalk, the presumably Digital Equipment is
going to put in AppleTalk for VMS hooks into their X System to use
Appletalk as a transport layer, right?
I'd be very interested to hear from those of you who actually use the software
specifically with VMS clients.
Any comments are welcome. Please would you mind replying directly, so that
I can summarize with a concise follow-up posting? Thanks.
John Jamison
Andersen Consulting
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 10:15 EDT
From: KSBOLDUAN%AMHERST.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: FONTs --> NFNTs
Is there a way to convert FONT resources to the new NFNT resource, or
do they have to be created that way? It's VERY nice to have the
stylized fonts (bold, italic, and bolditalic) show up that way in
my word processing documents, without having four FONTs for each
typeface. A few of my screen fonts, those from Adobe, are NFNTs, but
none of the others is. Is there a utility to convert them? Also, are
all the screen fonts in the Info-Mac archives equipped with the
NFNT resource?
Thanks for the info!
Kevin Bolduan '91 Amherst College
KSBOLDUAN@AMHERST Bitnet address
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 16:10:47 EDT
From: joseph@elbereth.rutgers.edu (Seymour Joseph)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #183
Apple's AppleShare Print Server software will spool imagewriter II
output to an AppleTalk imagewriter.
Seymour
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 16:32 PDT
From: MDIEHR@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #183
Help: I am trying to program a timer with millisecond accuracy on the mac, and
I need some help. I am not interested in a DELAY of Xmsec, (trivial using the
time mangager) but in waiting for an event to happen and measuring the time
taken. I donUt want to use direct calls to the VIA unless absolutely
necessary.
1) I have a routine that uses the Time Manager to set up a TMTask to be waken
up in Xmsec, then looks at the TMTask.tmCount field which appears to start at X
and be decremented every millisecond. However, in Inside Mac IV,
TMTask.tmCount is listed as a reserved Integer, while the routine I'm looking
at claims it is a counter of type Longint. On my SE/30 this routine doesn't
work, but it works on the Plus. Has apple changed their use of TMTask.TMcount?
Is there a Tech Note which clarifies why tmCount is listed as an integer
instead of Longint, and why on the SE/30 tmCount no longer functions as a
counter?
2) What actually happens when you call ADBOp with a "talk" command to the
keyboard. Does the keypress get posted as a normal event? How often can the
ADB be called before you overload the bus?
3) Is the ADB actually interrupt driven, or not? Inside Mac makes references
to "interrupts," but states elsewhere that the ADB is not interrupt driven...
thanks in advance. Please answer to me, and I will post a summary.
Mike Diehr
mdiehr@hmcvax.claremont.edu
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 08:48 CST
From: AEEVERETT%UALR.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #184
In reply to:
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 89 10:21:27 EDT
>From: jsmith@ctc.contel.com (James Smith)
Subject: Think C HyperCard Interface Routines
Does anyone know from where on the net I can down load the Think C
HyperCard interface routines ??
--You can call Symantec; they will sell you the full set for around $10.
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 8:41:36 EDT
From: gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro)
Subject: Installing System 6.04
I am having a problem installing System 6.04 on my Mac Plus.
Everytime I install it (custom installation for all Mac Models),
everything goes ok until I try to boot. I get the Welcome to
Macintosh message for about 5 seconds then a dialog box telling me the
System file may be damaged and to use the Installer to correct this.
I have used the Installer 4 times with no avail. This happens on both
of my hard drives (Apple 40SC (Quantum ProDrive) and Ehman Engineering 60+
(Seagate 277N)). Has anybody had similiar problems??? Any suggestions???
Greg
____________________________________________________________________________
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Worcester Polytechnic Institute Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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GEnie: GShapiro Worcester, Massachusetts 01609
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 12:07 EST
From: <FEASTER%IUBACS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MacinTalk on Mac II
We have several mac applications that run on a Mac Plus using MacinTalk.
All of the applications bomb when we try to output speech on a Mac II.
Is there an available version of MacinTalk that works on the Mac II? Thanks.
Mickey Feaster
Speech Research Lab
feaster@gold.bacs.indiana.edu
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 15:27:01 EDT
From: crowston@athena.mit.edu
Subject: Mac won't boot HD into Multifinder, but will boot from floppy
My Mac has recently developed a rather odd problem. It won't boot
into Multifinder from a hard disk, but it will boot into Finder and
it'll boot into Multifinder from a Floppy. Once booted, it runs
just fine (nearly all the time); specifically, it'll run Multifinder.
I have a MacPlus, with a TSI Gemini 020 accelerator with a FPU and
4MB of memory, an E-machines Big Picture Display and an Ehman 80 MB
hard disk. I'm running System 6.0.2, with a bunch of (seemingly
irrelevant) INITs, CDEVs, etc.
The machine was working fine Thursday when I shut it down. On Saturday
when I turned it back on, the disk paused for a fair bit and then
started turning. After flashing Welcome to Macintosh and the icons
of the various inits and just before starting the finder, it fell into
the debugger with an address error (I think). Oh well, I thought, the
system file must have gotten trashed. I booted the system from floppy,
copied over new system files, turned off all the INITs and tried again.
That didn't help, and neither did any of the other variations I tried.
Basically, a system that booted fine from floppies wouldn't work once it was
copied to the hard disk. In an afternoon of trying, I did get the machine
to boot successfully twice, but then rebooting the machine wouldn't work.
One time, and I wonder if this means anything, the system actually booted
into Multifinder, despite the fact that I hadn't copied Multifinder to the
new system folder (I couldn't believe my eyes).
I also ran Virus Rx and Disk First Aid over the disk, but neither
program noticed anything. I have considered reformating, but I'd like
to think that it would help before I do that.
I have since discovered that if the initial program is set to Finder
the system will boot, even with all of my various INITs. Once Finder is
running, I can start Multifinder by option-command double clicking and it
works. If I set startup to Multifinder, I end up in the debugger, with
calls to Launch and GetSegment (I think) on the stack. If I "es" from
this point, I end up at the Finder; if I "ea", I get the message "One OS
at a time", which goes to the Finder when cancelled. In this case, I
can't start multi-finder; doing that gets the same "One OS" error message.
I am having trouble imagining what could be broken. The fact that the system
runs off floppy disk and that I didn't change any software makes me think
it's a hardware problem, but what could be broken just enough to keep
Multifinder from booting, but not from running and not stop everything else?
The only other symptoms I've seen are occasional complaints of disk
errors when copying files or saving, but trying again seems to work fine.
I would take the machine in for service, but I'd like to be able to suggest
where the service people should start looking; in particular, I'd like to
know whether I should take in the disk or the Mac. (Right: first step,
try the disk on another Mac and the Mac with another disk.)
Any suggestions are welcome.
Kevin Crowston
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 89 10:27:57 CET
From: "Guenther Sawitzki, StatLab Heidelberg" <J40%DHDURZ1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MPW source maintenance & change files
This is MergeChanges 1.0, an MPW tool.
MergeChanges reads standard input and a change file, and writes to standard
output. Change entries in the change file start with @x and are replaced by
the text given between @y and @z.
The MPW 3.0 projector should provide this service, but...
Example change file:
comment
@x
original 1
@y
change 1
@z
Add this to your MPW.help:
MergeChanges # updates standard input with a change file.
MergeChanges -c changefile_name < inputfile > outputfile
-c changefile name of changefile. required.
-cs separator change entries separator. must be first on line in change file.
defaults to "@" at start of line.
-mb mark text to enter at begin of a change
-me mark text to enter at end of a change
-once use each change once only
-p plappermaul
[Archived as /info-mac/lang/mpw-mergechanges.hqx; 26K]
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 14:59:47 BST
From: Barry Moody <MT04%LIVERPOOL.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: NT control switch limit?
I have just been told by my local Apple dealer that there is a limit of
approx. 50 to the number of times the control switches should be altered
on a LaserWriter II NT. This effectively means that I cannot print from
an IBMPC via its serial port. Is this really so, and is there any way
around this limitation. Many thanks Barry Moody
earn/bitnet address : mt04@ibm.liverpool.ac.uk
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 89 21:44 CDT
From: "Sandro Corsi, Univ.of WI-Oshkosh" <CORSI@oshkosh.wisc.edu>
Subject: PICS format
The specifications for the PICS file format were described in an article by
Dan Sadowski and Erik Neumann of MacroMind, published in the notes to
course #3, SIGGRAPH'89.
Briefly, the PICS file is composed of a number of PICT resources, with
numbers starting at 128 and increasing without gaps. PICT 128 describes the
complete first frame, and establishes the screen size of the animation.
Subsequent PICTs may a) describe whole new frames, with the same picFrame
rectangle; b) describe smaller updates to the previous frame; c) indicate
that no changes should occur by having a null (all coords = 0) picFrame.
In addition to the sequence of PICTs, there may be an optional INFO
resource (numbered 128) containing things such as the preferred bit-depth,
playback speed, and the size of the largest frame in bytes.
The person to contact concerning PICS is:
Erik Neumann
MacroMind, Inc.
410 Townsend St., Suite 408
San Francisco, CA 94107
AppleLink X0404
Sandro Corsi // Dept. of Art // Univ.of Wisconsin-Oshkosh // Osh.,WI 54901
<corsi@oshkoshw> // <corsi@oshkosh.wisc.edu>
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 14:54:30 +0100
From: borton@fwi.uva.nl
Subject: Portrait Display and Macintosh SE
In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>Is it possible to use the Apple Portrait Display with
>a Macintosh SE? I have a client who purchased the Portrait
>Display with video card and SE, and I need to give him
>an answer.
I'm 95% sure. Don't know which off the top of my head, but many of the
newer video cards have included the Apple A4 monitor along with others.
Cards from SuperMac, etc. Check those out. Nutmeg makes a card for the
SE/30 that does both big Apple monitors; maybe they have one for the SE as
well.
-cbb
--
Chris Borton borton@fwi.uva.nl
Mac Developer & AppleTalk Network Administrator, University of Amsterdam CS
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 89 14:45 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen)
Subject: Princeton Graphics Monitor w/ IIci?
Greetings,
We have a student here who wants to use his Princeton Graphics Ultrasync
monitor with his new Mac IIci. He has a cable from Princeton Graphics that
is supposed to work with the 4 or 8bit video cards. It doesn't seem to work
with the builtin video circuitry of the IIci. Any known work-arounds?
Not interested in theories of why it doesn't work, I've got a few of my own,
we just want to know if a different cable or whatever will work.
Thanks much
Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 10:06 CDT
From: Gregg Cohen <CMDGROPG%UIAMVS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Public Folder Problem
I am trying to use Public Folder on a Mac II with 8MB memory, and internal 40
Mb drive and an external 100 Mb drive (System 6.0.3). What I would like to do
is have the public folder on the external 100 Mb Rodime drive. When I click
on the customization menu, and tell the program to find the public folder on
Rachel:Public: and reboot, the public folder init does not find the folder.
Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong, or am I trying to do something that
really isn't possible?
Thanks in advance
Gregg Cohen
System Analyst
Department of Psychiatry
University of Iowa
Bitnet: GCOHENPG@UIAMVS
Snail: 1-160A PH
University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA 52242
ATTnet: (319)353-6358
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 11:32:23 EDT
From: Joel MALARD <joel@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Running Ibm software on Apple.
Could anyone tell me how i can run Ibm software on Mac+ and MacII's?
Any suggestion or pointer would be most wellcome.
Thanks.
Joel Malard.
INTER: joel@oliver.cs.mcgill.ca
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 89 06:35:49 -0400
From: earleh@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Earle R. Horton)
Subject: Safe Shutdown/Restart XCMDs for HyperCard.
Previous XCMDs written for the purpose of shutting down or restarting
the Mac had the unpleasant side effect of corrupting stacks. This is
because HyperCard updates stacks you are working on at idle time, and
the XCMD would shut down the machine when the disk and working (RAM)
copies of the stack information were inconsistent.
This stack contains two XCMDs which get around that problem by telling
HyperCard that we want to "Quit HyperCard," before shutting down or
restarting.
Now the only problem that remains is to tell other applications what
we are doing... For this reason, these XCMDs may cause problems with
some application sets under MultiFinder. However, if you are running
HyperCard under UniFinder, and you simply must have a Shutdown button,
then this might be just what you want.
Source and Makefile are included for MPW Assembler. Look at the demo
button scripts to see how to use the XCMDs.
Earle R. Horton
[Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/xcmd/safe-shutdown.hqx; 9K]
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 89 19:26 EDT
From: Maurice Volaski <V050FN5R@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: searchreplace XCMD 2.0
Below is version 2.0 of the searchreplace XCMD. There are number of
improvements over the previous version. Cut,copy, and paste are supported.
The window is draggable on a large-screen monitor. The interface has been
redisgned using a hiearchical pop-up menu. There is online help, and the
XCMD has its own installation capability--no need to use ResCopy.
As usual the XCMD comes in a tutorial stack complete with source code.
Finally, there are hypercard scripts that perform the functions of search
and replace.
The XCMD is completely freeware.
[Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/xcmd/searchreplace-20.hqx; 64K]
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 16:50:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Mashyna <mm5l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: SendPS
I have some PS files generated by Tex and Scribe on a Vax. Simple files
print fine using SendPS to a Laserwriter and a II NT, both with 5.2.
More complicated ones get flushed without an offending command. The
files print fine to a serial Laserwriter. I have heard that the
Appledict creates problems for standard PS. Does anyone know what to do
about this ? Is there a way to modify the file so the Appledict is
ignored for that job ?
Matt Mashyna
Macintosh Initiative,
H&SS Dean's Office
Carnegie Mellon
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 15:06:28 EDT
From: Damian%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: sound format
Hello again,
I had a quick question for all those MacRecorder owners out there!
Does anyone know the format of the sound files this program creates?
I've got a Grad student who wants to convert 12-bit/8-10K sound files
on a vax to the mac.....any thoughts?
Damian Roskill
Computer Consultant
University of Massachusetts
damian@mars.ucc.umass.edu
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 10:24:00 PDT
From: PUGH@ccc.nmfecc.gov
Subject: SysStat Menu Trouble
> No. When I open any module of Systat on the cx, it opens up a window
> with no text. No menu bar, no close box, no elevator. But the menu
> bar is still there--if I click up where it's supposed to be, up pops
> a pull-down menu, which is also blank. If I pull down the invisible
> "File" menu then point to where "Quit" should be (at the bottom), it
> quits. So the stuff is there. Presumably it's working, but invisible
> output is kinda useless. Does anybody have the faintest idea what is
This sounds like a color problem. If the menu items and the background are
the same color then you can't see them and they are "invisible." Are you
redefining things with the cdev Kolor? You could always try running in b&w.
You usually don't get this sort of problem with only two colors. ;^)
Jon
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 15:01:43 +0100
From: borton@fwi.uva.nl
Subject: Which 19-inch monitor?
In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>Hi,
>we are interested in buying a macIIcx with a 19inch 256 color
>monitor. Has anyone experience with these monitors on a mac?
>We're interested in resolution, price(incl. card) and "mac
>compatibility".
Look in MacUser of 2-3 months ago. They had a comparison of all the big
ones on the market.
Radius and E-machines came out on top.
Groetjes,
-cbb
--
Chris Borton borton@fwi.uva.nl
Mac Developer & AppleTalk Network Administrator, University of Amsterdam CS
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 89 21:19:39 EDT
From: Jean Brunet <R31631%UQAM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: WindChooser
This seems a nice CDEV. At first it did not look too stable. Then after expe-
rimentaing with one of the windows (Schrinker) in the finder I noticed that it
would open correctly a folder (with the three icons in the title bar) only with
the cap key up. It is to bad that this CDEV does not come with a minimum of
documentation. I use a Mac II, system 6.0.2. Finally, if you move the schrink
window it does not come back to the initial position when opened again. Jean.
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 89 00:12:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert George Johnston, Jr." <rj0z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Windowshade Bug???
WindowShade 1.0 does have a bug in it. This bug prevents radio
buttons and
check boxes from functioning properly on some systems. It turns out that
this
problem seems to only show up when not running MultiFinder. The same bug
is
also responsible for crashing several Microsoft products.
A new release of WindowShade (version 1.1) is being prepared for
distribution. This new version fixes the bug that causes the above
problems.
Rob Johnston.
Author of WindowShade.
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