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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 22 Nov 89 Volume 7 : Issue 208 Today's Topics: About INITs, BlackBox in particular Cassette-labeler Color of pixel Combining Binhex Files Diamond 4.2 Demo Excel -> MacDraw problem Hardwire PC->Mac IBM Font IBM Screen Fonts Imagewriter Print Spoolers Info-Mac Digest V7 #204 Info-Mac Digest V7 #205 Info about GatorBox Info on Large Hard Disks Iron-on transfers from the Mac Mac to PC transfers Map Cdev on a 512KE multiscreen screensavers? NeXT CoLOR wdef nfnt.carta.hqx, nfnt.centennial_1.hqx Pascal variant records in C Screen Savers telecomm program supporting meta key/mouse/window resize? Thanks! Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indicies are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Nov 89 10:42:00 EDT From: "Richard Holmes" <rich@suhep> Subject: About INITs, BlackBox in particular PUGH@ccc.nmfecc.gov writes: >Concerning Black Box and FreshStart: > >Both of these INITs fail in most of our environments due to one simple rule >that the authors failed to follow. Define your single goal and stick to it. >Both programs try to do everything! Amen to that. It's no coincidence the software that has the largest volume of bug and misfeature complaints is the software that tries to be nine places at once. If you can't decide whether it's a floor wax or a dessert topping, it's probably not a very good instance of either. I'm pretty wary of INITs (only have one row of them on my SE screen so far...); there are too many ways they can bugger things up if done wrong. I use only the ones I find to be very useful, or very fun, and simple and clean. If BlackBox were about five or six well-encapsulated, single-purpose INITs I'd probably use some of them. As it is, I'm afraid to go near the thing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 10:55 EST From: Michael D Yablonsky Dept of Molecular Karma at the Waksman Institute Subject: Cassette-labeler I just downloaded the cassette-labeler which Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil> archived @sumex-aim.stanford.edu. So far so good. I'm running it on a color IIx with 5 megs, multifinder 6.1, system 6.0.3. It has some nice features. I would recommend that you tapers out there give it a try. It prints a simple line pattern the size of a normal cardboard tape sleeve. Don't expect mega-graphics, they're not here. It does allow you to generate custom labels where you supply the info for each section. You get to choose fonts but only one for the whole label. Only the default pitch is available. (it looks like 16 cpi). You can add: On the label; Header for each side of the label, 2 lines each Subheader fill in the blanks for NR and Date Set list (printed in open section) On the (thin) side; Fill in the box for tape type with length (small box on the left) 2 lines on each half of the long wide open section You can choose a pattern box for the right end of the box, sort of a visual sorting aid. The application prints out one label per page. You then have to cut out the label and fold it along the appropriate lines and slip it between the normal cardboard sleeve and the plastic box. Bad things: It seemes to have refresh problems on my machine. I don't know if this is because of my other inits. It crashed (unexpectedly) when I tried to edit a file while it was printing. I haven't tried it on my SE/30 yet but Tom's posting said he had no problems on that machine. I'll try it tonight. Also it seems not so multifinder friendly in that I have to pull down the apple menu rather than click the small icon to switch around. This only happens when the app has a file open. Good luck with it. I think it's pretty nice so far. Sure beats my embarassing scawl on those homemade labels. I didn't see anything about freeware/shareware although I found a version number of 1.0b1 and a notice that some of the code is copyrighted by Zedcor 1985. Are the authors out there??? have you the new/improved app??? Mike Yablonsky@biovax.rutgers.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 12:19 EDT From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen) Subject: Color of pixel Subject: RE: Color of a pixel >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 89 16:16:10 -0500 >From: demarsee@icarus.cns.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) >Subject: Color of a pixel > >How does one go about finding out the color mixture information for >a pixel on the screen? I need to get the Hue/Saturation/Brightness >(HSB) or Red/Green/Blue (RGB) values of a pixel that is currently >visible on the Mac screen. Ideally, I'd like to find something like >the FatMouse DA that displays this color information, but in lieu of >that, anything that doesn't require some big bucks package like >PixelPaint will do. Any clues out there on how to do this? > >Regards, > >Darryl Marsee >Syracuse University This should be a faily simple FKEY to write. Get the mouse coordinates, then call GetCPixel to return the RGB values. Do you just want them displayed on the screen, or what? Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer specialist Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346 AppleLink - U0523 BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1989 9:41:40 PST From: "Mike Hewett" <hewett@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Subject: Combining Binhex Files I just had to do the same thing - reassemble a large .hqx file. I tried Stuffit, FileSplit, and Append and the only one that worked was Append. It is is the Sumex archives as: info-mac/util/append.hqx (6K) Mike Hewett Hewett@Sumex-Aim.Stanford.Edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 89 21:01:05 +0100 From: Roland Mansson <roland@dna.lth.se> Subject: Diamond 4.2 Demo DIAMOND - Version 4.2 THE COMPACTOR FOR MACINTOSH RUNS ON MACINTOSH Plus, SE, SE/30, II, IIX, IICX, IICI and Portable FULL VERSION THAT CLOCKS OUT 6 MONTHS AFTER FIRST USE ALL FEATURES AVAILABLE NO RESTRICTION FOR DUPLICATION [Archived as /info-mac/demo/diamond-42.hqx; 35K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 14:25:29 EST From: williams@cbl.umd.edu (Bill Williams) Subject: Excel -> MacDraw problem I've been having a problem with shipping graphs from Excel to MacDraw(II) for many years, now, and it suddenly occurred to me to ask the net if anyone else has had the same problem. We use the combination of Excel and MacDraw to make publication-quality graphics for scientific papers, and it works well, except for the following problem: Whenever we export a line or scatter graph, MacDraw displays all the points on the graph as large, blacked-in (we don't have color) rectangles, regardless of what the point shape was in Excel. A close inspection reveals that the large black rectangles are actually UNDER the proper symbol, which is there, with its appropriate background (usually a similar symbol one pixel larger in all dimensions). This makes the problem particularly difficult to solve: if the big black rectangles were OVER the correct symbols, we could just touch each one and remove it with a backspace, but since they are UNDER the correct symbols, this technique removes the good symbols, not the bad. Moving all the rectangles "to back" is not practical, especially when the symbols are very close together (although this is, in fact, what we do - it's a long and tedious process and usually results in accidentally moving a few of the points we want). There must be a way to avoid this problem, because I'm pretty sure that Cricket Draw doesn't have it (although I looked at Cricket Draw a long time ago). Anybody know what I can do? I called Claris about it, 'way back before MacDraw II, and the guy on the phone tried it while I talked him through it and said something on the order of "Well, I'll be darned," but it didn't get fixed in MacDraw II. I'd appreciate any suggestions, including suggestions about getting other graphics software (to substitute either for the graphics portion of Excel or for MacDraw II). Bill Williams Williams@CBL.UMD.EDU (301)862-0365 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 14:27:04 EST From: Andy_Mondore@mts.rpi.edu Subject: Hardwire PC->Mac The cheapest way to transfer files between a Mac and a PC is to buy a null modem cable and then run Kermit on the Mac and the PC. (There are versions of Kermit for many different computers and operating systems.) If you don't have Kermit at UMass, you can FTP it from watsun.cc.columbia.edu. Another alternative is to buy MacLink Plus. You should be able to order it from any of the larger mailorder houses that advertises in Mac World. Andy Mondore Andy_Mondore@mts.rpi.edu userfmc6@rpitsmts.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 16:18:36 EDT From: Denis Beauchemin <IN10%UDESVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: IBM Font Hi, Jakob (datjn@neuvm1) was looking for an IBM-looking font. I found one in ZTerm (a telecom program available from Info-Mac) and I transferred it to my system. To do such a thing, you have to hold the Option key down while clicking Open in Font/DA Mover to be able to open an application (the font is installed directly in ZTerm). Good Luck, --> Denis Beauchemin, Analyste --> IN10@UDESVM.BITNET Departement de mathematiques (819) 821-7022 et d'informatique Universite de Sherbrooke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 10:13:43 EST From: "Bret Ingerman 315-443-1114" <INGERMAN%SUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: IBM Screen Fonts The program SoftPC (Insignia Solutions), which allows you to run Blue software on your mac, comes with two fonts: PC40 and PC80. As the names imply, PC40 is a 40 character wide PC font, and PC80 is for 80 character screens. They also include the extended ASCII codes for such things as line draw charaters, etc. Bret Ingerman Syracuse University ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 15:46:14 EST From: stngiam@athena.mit.edu Subject: Imagewriter Print Spoolers I always thought that there was no such beast, but I recently saw a post about a print spooler used in conjunction with a seikosha dot-matrix printer. Does anybody know of good products of this type ? How much memory do they require? How much performance improvement can we get when used with an Apple IW II? Thanks. Shih Tung MIT Chem E ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 89 15:21:14 GMT From: jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey M White) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #204 In article <8911180157.AA08206@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes: > >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 89 16:06:10 EST >From: David_S._Allan@ub.cc.umich.edu >Subject: Monitoring Laserwriter usage > >We are in the process of expanding our departmental PhoneNet network. >We currently have five laserwriters and about 35 nodes connected. >Our major network traffic is printing. We do not currently support >file sharing or mail, though we hope to add that in the future. > >We are concerned with a possible increase in frivolous laserwriter usage >when we expand the network access to the rest of the department. We >would like to find some kind of utility that will: > > o Allow us to restrict access (password or other means) to the > laserwriters. > > o Allow us to monitor laserwriter usage on a node-by-node basis, > for recharging or to generate statistics on laserwriter usage. > >Surely many are facing this problem. What kinds of utilities are >available? Any public domain solutions? You can respond directly >to me and I'll summarize to the net. > >Thanks for your help. > >David_Allan@ub.cc.umich.edu > There is no way I know of to password restrict a LaserWriter (although I think a LOT of people would wish you could). The best way I know of to restrict access is to "hide" it behing some other program. If you had a Fastpath/Gatorbox, there are modificiations to the lwsrv program (which publishes the Laserwriter from the unix system) which uses the Mac chooser name like a unix name (even with a mini-password system). If the Mac chooser name doesn't map to a Unix name properly, the user can't print. I'm not sure if LaserShare running on top of AppleShare has any type of authorized spooler. As far as monitoring goes, TrafficWatch from Farallon allows you to monitor traffic between nodes. I've seen examples listed in the manual where LW usage is displayed as a pie chart, broken down by user (actually Mac node number, which I guess is assumed to be mapable to a user). A couple things, though. First, I'm not sure whether you need a Star Controller to work with this, as the same company makes both. If not, I would have to assume that you need to dedicate a Mac to traffic watching, so that it could continuously gather stats. Jeff White University of Pennsylvania jeff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 16:30:41 PST From: GurgleKat <pete%cavevax@hub.ucsb.edu> Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #205 > I want to be able to generate illustrations *on my Mac* which look as > if they are screendumps from an IBM PC. For this purpose I need a > font which looks like the monospaced characters on a standard IBM PC screen. > Could somebody please point me to such a font (if it were ftp'able, > it would best, but anything would help). > > Jakob Nielsen, Technical University of Denmark > Department of Computer Science, DK-2800 Lyngby Copenhagen, DENMARK > Tel: +45-31-38 23 20 or +45-42-88 15 66. Fax: +45-42-88 22 39 > Email: datJN@NEUVM1.bitnet OR jn@iddth.dk OR nielsen.chi@xerox.com You might be able to extract the IBM-style font in ZTerm, of which v0.85 is available via anonymous ftp at sumex-aim.stanford.edu. If you have trouble getting the font out of the application, just remember to hold down option when you click the "Open" button in Font/DA Mover. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 16:14:02 EDT From: Denis Beauchemin <IN10%UDESVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Info about GatorBox Hi, Marty (bigos@curie.standofr.edu) was asking about the GatorBox. Here's my opinion about it: We bought a GB when they got out (almost). At that time they were advertising them as having TCP/IP - AppleTalk routing, remote printing and mail sharing. When you bought the box, you were supposed to be able to do all this! Well, the remote printing works if you can figure out how to install part of CAP (Columbia AppleTalk Package; which is free). I've been able to install it on our Sun and now all Suns can print on our laser printers on AppleTalk. It is not possible for a Mac to print to a printer connected to a Sun unless you install more of the CAP (which I didn't do). As for the mail, we could buy StarNine SMTP software, but it won't come for free (around 1000$). With it and QuickMail or MS Mail you could exchange mail messages between Macs and Suns. For the NFS part, we had many problems in the beginning (the GB kept crashing) but it has been a while since the last crash! I'd say that the software has matured and is now usable. Using AppleShare User on any Mac gives you the possibility to access your account on the NFS server. You even see your files with icons and directories as folders. As for performance, I'd say it's definitely slower than an AppleShare server (even a Mac+ server!) but you can use existing equipment (such as huge disks). You can't use the excellent AppleShare Admin program and you can't copy-protect software (because some Finder protection bits aren't available over NFS). Here is a short list of other inconveniences: users can't change their passwords when logging in (possible with an AppleShare version 2 server); "Guest logins" are not supported; IBM compatible PC's can't use the remote volumes because names are not converted (yet - should be in next release of their software). All in all, I really like the GatorBox. Even though it is slow, it gives us a greater data security since backups are taken automatically every weekday on our Sun server. It also frees us from floppies! The fact that it is slow makes it almost unusable to share big appllications. It takes a while to load big applications like Word 4 or Hypercard. And if many users do it at the same time, it slows down even more. But to exchange data files which are usually smaller (unless you manipulate color 3D images or huge databases), it's not so bad. I don't know if there's something wrong with their installation, but when we demoed the GB to two guys from another faculty where a VAX is used as an Appleshare server via AlisaTalk and a Kinethic FastPath, they told us that the GB was a lot much faster than their VAX-AlisaTalk-FastPath configuration. We haven't done any formal timings though. NCSA Telnet comes with the GB (at least it came with ours more than one year ago) and it works very well with it. Version 2.3 available via Info-Mac works fine with it. Hope all this helps! --> Denis Beauchemin, Analyste --> IN10@UDESVM.BITNET Departement de mathematiques (819) 821-7022 et d'informatique Universite de Sherbrooke ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 11:29 EST From: KNKR9043%wooster.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Info on Large Hard Disks Well, it is time to look for a new hard disk. This 40 megger is just to small (and soon will feel smaller). I do not want to merely jump to an 80 meg drive. I am looking into drives that range from the 160-300 meg range and I am looking for opinions on drives in this size range. So, can you people speak forth? I want to focus on external drives that are reliable, fast, QUIET (my 40 sounds like a damn jet). Please feel free to mention how you people back these things up as well. I am just seeking info right now and the more info I can get the better.... Thanks, ============================================================================== = = = ** Ken Knight ** | Bitnet: KNKR9043 @ WOOSTER = = | Box C-2027 College of Wooster = = | Wooster, Oh 44691 = = = = "Time is gone; the song is over; thought I'd something more to say.." = = -- Pink Floyd = = "Goddness me, could this be, Industrial Disease..." = = -- Dire Straits = = = ============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 14:00 EST From: FRIEDMAN@anchor.rutgers.edu Subject: Iron-on transfers from the Mac Sometime ago I remember a request being made for the source of product that would allow one to make an iron-on transfer using the Mac and a laserwriter. Unfortunately, I forgot to note the place where one might purchase this product. Hopefully, someone remembers and I would appreciate it if they could forward me the information. Thank you Rich Friedman@biovax ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 16:20:18 EDT From: Denis Beauchemin <IN10%UDESVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Mac to PC transfers Hi, Damian (damian@mars.ucc.umass.edu) would like to know how to transfer files between a Mac and a PC that sit next to each other. Here's how I would do it: Buy an ImageWriter I cable for your Mac SE and connect the large connector (DB-25) into COM1 on the PC. Start a comm program on both computers and transfer files at high speed. I would recommend the following programs: ZTerm on the Mac side and Telix (or Procomm) on the IBM side. They are all shareware and are available from the net (I'm sure about ZTerm but not about the others). They also support ZMODEM transfers, which is what you should be looking for. Hope this helps, --> Denis Beauchemin, Analyste --> IN10@UDESVM.BITNET Departement de mathematiques (819) 821-7022 et d'informatique Universite de Sherbrooke ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 89 16:18 EST From: MacInfo@dca-ems.dca.mil Subject: Map Cdev on a 512KE Regarding the question about using the Map CDEV on a Mac 512KE It doesn't matter what system or amount of memory because Map CDEV calles to some extra Parameter RAM that the 128 and 512 didn't get in its Clock IC. I had the same problems, and only found out by checking the assistance on MACNET on Connect, Inc. I hope this helps...Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 10:56:58 PST From: eastman@csa2.lbl.gov (Jack Eastman) Subject: multiscreen screensavers? >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 89 12:22:37 EST >From: George McKee <mckee@corwin.ccs.northeastern.edu> >Subject: multiscreen screensavers? > >Are there any screen savers available that can blank multiple screens? After Dark, the new screen saver by Berkeley Systems, Inc., will blank multiple screens without difficulty. After Dark comes with over a dozen graphics effects which you can display on the screen as it sleeps; some of them merely paint the second screen black, but many propagate their graphics across an arbitrary number of screens. And if you don't like any of the prepackaged graphics modules, you can write your own. After Dark should be available from your favorite mail-order house now. Jack Eastman Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory eastman@lbl.gov Disclaimer: I wrote After Dark. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 89 21:29:55 PST From: 6500stom%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu Subject: NeXT CoLOR wdef NeXT CoLOR Window Definition for the Mac by Jorg "jbx" Brown & Eric Celeste & Josh Pritikin NeXT CoLOR WDEF is a replacement for the standard Mac windows. It is a close relative of Eric Celeste's NeXT WDEF except this version support beautiful color! It even works on multiple screen in multiple depths. To install you just throw the init into your system folder. Source included! Have fun. email: 6500stom@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu GEnie: J.Pritikin [Archived as /info-mac/misc/next-color-wdef.hqx; 45K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 89 08:03:36 -0500 From: cderose@mwunix.mitre.org (Craig Derose) Subject: nfnt.carta.hqx, nfnt.centennial_1.hqx The NFNT version of the screen fonts listed in the subject line follow. [Archived as /info-mac/font/adobe/carta.hqx; 33K /info-mac/font/adobe/centennial-1.hqx; 118K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 10:07:19 EST From: reg@lti2.lti (Rick Genter x18) Subject: Pascal variant records in C Pascal's variant records are the equivalent of C's unions. Thus: RECORD . . . CASE CInfoType OF hfileInfo: (ioFlFndrInfo: FInfo; . . . ioFlClpSize: LONGINT); dirInfo: (ioDrUsrWds: DInfo; . . . ioDrParID: LONGINT); END; is equivalent to struct { . . . union { struct { FInfo ioFlFndrInfo; . . . long ioFlClpSize; } _hfileInfo; struct { DInfo ioDrUsrWds; . . . long ioDrParID; } _dirInfo; } _CInfoType; }; (The union and its member structures are required to have names; I chose the names of the type/values prepended with an underscore here.) Hope this helps. - reg -- Rick Genter ...!{buita,bbn}!lti!reg Language Technology, Inc. reg%lti.uucp@bu-it.bu.edu 27 Congress St., Salem, MA 01970 (508) 741-1507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 09:29:37 PST From: PUGH@ccc.nmfecc.gov Subject: Screen Savers I have two screens on my Mac II and the screen savers that I have found to work best are Dimmer and Pyro. Dimmer doesn't draw anything, it merely frobs the gamma so that your screens dim. You can adjust the darkness although if you leave it over two hours it will darken completely. I like it the best as it consumes virtually no CPU time and does not interfere with any software running. It is even nicer than AutoBlack which was the best screen saver on the Plus and SE. Unfortunately, Dimmer does not work on any SE, including the SE/30. Pyro only draws it's graphics on the main screen but all screens are blackened. Pyro uses CPU time but has enough smarts to not go on if downloads or printing is occuring. I use Pyro on my SE/30 at home. I have seen no other screen savers that work as well as these two. I'm going to check out After Dark soon so perhaps I will post more about that later. Farnham wants me to write a MacLavaLamp screen saver. ;^) Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 09:38:09 PST From: meldal@anna.stanford.edu Subject: telecomm program supporting meta key/mouse/window resize? I would appreciate anyone telling me of programs that suport (with the host's knowledge): - the 'meta'/option key - resizable windows - the mouse The program UW (Unix Windows) 4.2 supports all of these. There is also a gnuemacs function package which supports the UW mouse. UW allows up to 7 concurrent sessions across a single physical line. UW is available from the sumex archives (in the UNIX directory?). -- Sigurd ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Nov 89 15:43:05 EST From: Damian%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Thanks! Wow! Wow! When I asked about hardwiring a PC to a Mac I had NO idea I would receive such a volume of letters....at least 25. Because of the volume I won't be able to thank each person individually, but I would like to thank everyone who helped me out! Every message was useful. And now onto another question: For people that are using the mac for large databases: Does anyone out there know what the Maximum size of a "field (a block of text)" may be in 4th Dimension? How about in Double Helix? Does anyone know of a program that will handle text fields of 30 pages+ ? It seems that Hypercard is my only solution, but I need another if possible. Again, thanks in advance....you guys/gals are too nice. Damian Roskill Consultant University of Massachusetts, Amherst damian@mars.ucc.umass.edu ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************