Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (11/29/89)
Info-Mac Digest Tue, 28 Nov 89 Volume 7 : Issue 212
Today's Topics:
_Launch 1.0 (binhex)
a-cruise2.hqx
Datadesk 101/Keyboard hacking (2 msgs)
Disassembler
fonts with proportionally-spaced digits
Info-Mac Digest V7 #211
Info on Large Hard Disks
Jasmine DirectServe
MacInstitute
MacNFS (summary)
Mac Programming Questions
Mac to PC transfers
Memory Upgrades
PagaMaker 3.0 problem - cannot open file
Page numbering, How do I get rid of the 1?
PD Yacc for MPW.
RGB monitor "focus" line
Shimmering Screens
Slow Finder
System 6.0.4 report
Uninvited.
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 89 12:04:58 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael A. Libes" <ml10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: _Launch 1.0 (binhex)
_Launch is a Multifinder Launching Utility which launches and
switches to other programs. It is based on the idea of the NeXT
application dock, or the BlackBoxINIT, except that the _Launch
window is on the top or bottom of the screen. _Launch is NOT an
INIT, it is a Multifinder "Aware" program taking up to 48K and
minimal background time. Run as many INITs as you dare with _Launch,
it won't care.
The documentation is included in both MacWrite format and as a
Hypercard stack.
_Launch is being distributed as Shareware, but everyone who sends
in $10 is guaranteed to recieve, free of charge, a disk containing
version 2.0 in three to four weeks.
Enjoy.
-Lunarmobiscuit
[Archived as /info-mac/util/launch.hqx; 49K]
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 89 15:22:30 CST
From: creiman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Reiman)
Subject: a-cruise2.hqx
Hello again, sumex! I said earlier that I has no plans to update
AutoCruise, but this one bug demanded a response. It prevented
me from playing with my own toy. Anyway, its fixed now, and one
more potential bug is squashed as well. As an added bonus, I added
an icon. Many thanks to Freek "the Pistol Major" Wiedijk at the
University of Amsterdam for his help in finding the nasty bug and
for providing the icon with the ShowIcon resource.
It's still public domain, and the updated source is included, as
well as a breif blurb about this update.
For those who don't know what AutoCruise is, it changes the low
level mouse movement routines so moving the mouse changes the
cursor's velocity, not its position. Try it, you'll like it.
WARNING: This init is only for people with a sense of humor.
Be excellent to each other!
creiman@ncsa.uiuc.edu
creiman%ncsa.uiuc.edu@uiucvmd
[Archived as /info-mac/init/autocruise-20.hqx; 28K]
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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 89 23:38:07 -0500
From: ack@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams)
Subject: Datadesk 101/Keyboard hacking
In INFO-MAC DIGEST #211 DASTIDAR@ecs.umass.edu writes:
> I just got a Datadesk 101 keyboard for my old MacPlus. I like it a
> lot, but the software is terrible, and it's not compatible with QuicKeys.
> That is, it's not compatible with the Apple extended keyboard - it
> generates different "raw" keycodes for the function keys. ...
>
> - Jurgen Botz
There is an init called DataDesk INIT which should come with QuicKeys.
(If not, someone out there must know where to get it). This will
remap your keyboard to match the Apple Extended. Unfortunately, you
do not get to use the extra "window lock" keys you get by hitting
right option-clear.
Does this come with QuicKeys or is it somewhere else?
-ajw
--
Andy J. Williams '90 Systems Programmer "Commander tear this code apart
31 North Main Street Kiewit Comp. Center until you've found those bugs! And
Hanover NH, 03755 Office #9 (#9 #9...) bring me the programmers, I want
603-643-2177 603-646-3322 them alive!" -Darth Vader (kinda)
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 11:41:02 EST
From: gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (Gregory N. Shapiro)
Subject: Datadesk 101/Keyboard hacking
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Nov 89 23:34 EST, DASTIDAR@ecs.umass.edu said:
DASTIDAR>I just got a Datadesk 101 keyboard for my old MacPlus. I like it a
DASTIDAR>lot, but the software is terrible, and it's not compatible with
DASTIDAR>QuicKeys.
It is compatible with Quickkeys. All you need to do is use the
DataDesk 101 INIT that came with Quickkeys and all the function keys
and all the other extra keys work fine.
Greg
____________________________________________________________________________
Gregory Shapiro Gregory Shapiro
Worcester Polytechnic Institute Worcester Polytechnic Institute
gshapiro@wpi.wpi.edu (130.215.24.1) Box 1397
gshapiro@wpi.bitnet 100 Institute Road
GEnie: GShapiro Worcester, Massachusetts 01609
MacNet: GShapiro United States
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 15:42:54 SET
From: "Vincenzo G. Capuano" <CAPUANO%ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Disassembler
I would like to know if it is available a disassembler that builds
a full assembler source with labels instead of address numbers.
Please, send me the address of the producer of such beast.
Thanks in advance.
Vincenzo G. Capuano
capuano@icnucevm.cnuce.cnr.it
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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 89 22:49:52 EST
From: "Mark A. Saper" <SAPER@xtal0.harvard.edu>
Subject: fonts with proportionally-spaced digits
Do any of the readily-available fonts have proportionally-spaced numeric
digits? The ones I've used are all mono-spaced, apparently to make
tables and spreadsheets easy to produce. Could someone instruct
me how to make a font with proportionally-spaced digits by using ResEdit?
Please reply to me directly. Thanks.
Mark A. Saper Phone: (617) 495-5043
Harvard University Facsimile: (617) 495-9613
7 Divinity Ave. BitNet: SAPER@HUXTAL.BITNET
Cambridge, MA 02138 InterNet: saper@xtal0.harvard.edu
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 09:21 EST
From: JBRIONE@clemson.clemson.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #211
Using Compuserve and MCI mail and Networks.
Instructions on usign Compuserve's gateway to the internet
are in Compuserve's Easyplex E-Mail system under
"Help Internet"
MCI mail gateway to Internet instructions are available
to MCI mail users by typing "help address ems"
I am not a compuserve or MCI mail user but I read this instrucctions
on a computer magazine. If someone is successful establishing
communication with either service, I would appreciate the details
are posted on the digest or mailed to me.
Jose A. Briones
JBRIONE@CLEMSON
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 10:24:19 PST
From: meldal@anna.stanford.edu
Subject: Info on Large Hard Disks
I have been going through the market, looking for 300 MByte harddisks.
Let me summarise:
There seem to be very few manufacturers of the actual drive mechanism:
Imprimis (nee CDC), Maxtor, Miniscribe and Micropolis. I have chosen
the CDC Wren IV (300 MByte) for two reasons:
1. I already have one, and thus expect to be able to reuse
drive-specific software (formatters etc.)
2. My experience with that drive is extremely positive. It is quiet,
and very robust. As an example of the latter: We recently experienced
an earthquake. (Heard about it? I thought so.) My harddisk was
spinning on a shelf when the quake hit, with a shelf coming down on
top of the disk, its shelf also collapsing and the disk falling 5
feet, to be buried in rubble after bouncing off the floor. When it was
time to start up again, the disk did just that. Nary a hiccough. THAT
is robust.
The drive is just the beginning. One wants to make sure that the
formatting software supports low-level (or "hard") partitioning, i.e.
you make one physical disk into a number of logical disks. Hard
partitioning is safer than soft, since a diskcrash affecting one
partition is less liable to take other partitions with it. Asking
about the driver/partitioning software, it is best to get
mechanism-specific rather than generic utilities, since the larger
disks sometimes have quirks that can improve speed if the driver knows
about it (e.g. the Imprimis has a cache, which I believe is turned off
by default. The driver needs to turn it on).
And then there are price differences. A 300 MByte Wren can vary from a
low of 1800$ to a high of (at least) 4000$, the only difference being
the power supply, the box and the software. And I am not convinced
that the most expensive is the better (:-)).
Also check out the quality of the support the dealer will give you. If
you are buying from a mailorder - are they courteous? Do they answer
the phone? Are they knowledgeable? Do they have a 30-day money-back
guarantee (the latter is important if you are concerned about noise -
the only way to check whether it is too noisy is to listen to it)? Do
they charge your credit card upon shipping or immediately upon placing
the order (it had better be the former)?
Given the above criteria for quality, I decided to purchase my two
disks from MacZone. They have a mix-and-match system where you chose
your box, power supply and the drive mechanism, and they will put it
together for you. As a bonus they offer lockable disks for an extra
$50, i.e. a disk drive equipped with a physical lock.
I have not received the disks yet (they told me they did not have the
Wren in stock, it remains to be seen whether their promised delivery
time will come through), so the proof of the pudding remains to be
tested.
MacWorld November 89 has a major survey of large harddisks. You may
want to look at that.
-- Sigurd
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 13:08:29 EDT
From: Kathy DuBose <DUBOSE%AKRONVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Jasmine DirectServe
Hi,
We are currently running Appleshare with Apple print spooling on a
localtalk network. We have a MAC SE dedicated as a server. We
are considering purchasing the Jasmine DirectServe, as advertised in
MacWeek. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this
server or with any server that does not required a dedicated machine.
Also, for the network managers, how do you handle back-ups on your
macintosh network?
Thanks for your help,
Kathy DuBose
Bitnet address: DUBOSE@AKRONVM
The University of Akron
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Date: 27 Nov 89 09:24 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: MacInstitute
Date: 27 November 1989, 09:20:00 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: MacInstitute
Anybody have any information on classes taught by an organization calling
itself "MacInstitute"? We've gotten a couple of flyers, and have seen their
ads in the various Macpublications, but haven't any direct experience with
them.
Basically, the questions are 1) are they worth it? and 2) what should pro-
spective students bring to the courses (in terms of background & experience)
to get the full value out of them?
Ted
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 15:41:24 +0100
From: "J.-P. Szikora" <LUDWIG%BUCLLN11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MacNFS (summary)
I'm posting the news collected about MacNFS for those of you interested in
such a product (there was actually a lot of).
MacNFS has been developed by people from the University of Michigan, and
APPLE itself was so interested in that product that it acquired the rights
to MacNFS.
Unfortunately, it appears that MacNFS developers were using proprietary
source code in their product ( most probably SUN code ), which leads to
legal and copyright problems.
The release or non-release of MacNFS is a matter of decision : re-write
the offending portion of the code,or abandon the project.
The future of MacNFS is in APPLE hands; let's hope and wait ...
The only current NFS support for Macintosh is tied to the Gatorbox unit,
not a bad solution,but also not the best regarding performance.
Jo Lejeune
Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research - Brussels Branch
Av. Hippocrate 74 - UCL 7459
B-1200 BRUSSELS Belgium
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 09:11:31 EST
From: reg@lti2.lti (Rick Genter x18)
Subject: Mac Programming Questions
Greetings.
I spent a good part of Thanksgiving weekend doing some Mac hacking, something
that I've been meaning to do for a while. I have Inside Macintosh Vols I-V,
as well as an excellent book called "Macintosh Revealed" by Stephen Chernicoff
(I highly recommend it; whereas IM tells you what calls you have available,
MR tells you how to use them).
I've come up with the following questions; I hope the net can help me:
1) How do I make my application MultiFinder friendly? Right now
it works OK if I click in the window to make it the active
application, but if I use the little icon on the menu bar, I
get a (rather spectacular) crash. I have not hooked up the
desk accessories in the apple menu; I'm assuming that by
doing the standard OpenDeskAcc call, I'll get my accessories
*plus* whatever other applications I have running.
2) How do I get the "default" button to be outlined with a heavy
border in a modal or modeless dialog box? In alerts it's
simple; I just set the appropriate bit in the stage word, although
that only works if the button I want to outline is one of the
first two. But I know you can do it in dialog boxes; Think C
does it, as does Microsoft Word.
3) Speaking of Think C, I had a weirdness with it. I'm using Think
C 3.01 (4.0 upgrade is ordered and on the way), as well as RMaker
for my resource compiler. After I build the application, I tried
using Transfer... to invoke RMaker and put my resources in. That
seems to work, but when I run my program under the debugger, any
call that requires reading a resource (i.e., GetMenu) fails. If
I run my application outside of Think C, it works just fine. Any
ideas as to what's happening here?
As I continue to explore, I'm sure I'll come up with other questions, so let
me thank all of you in advance for the assistance I'm sure I'll get.
- reg
--
Rick Genter ...!{buita,bbn}!lti!reg
Language Technology, Inc. reg%lti.uucp@bu-it.bu.edu
27 Congress St., Salem, MA 01970 (508) 741-1507
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 13:40:49 GMT
From: EARL WILLIAMS <tejtemw@isis.educ.lon.ac.uk>
Subject: Mac to PC transfers
Damian@mars.ucc.umass.edu wrote asking about file transfers between
a Mac and an adjacent PC, and Denis Beauchemain (IN10@UDESUM.BITNET)
recommended (I paraphrase) using two telecom programs and a null-modem
setup (with an IW2 cable).
I would recommend MacLinkPlus, which I have used a good deal. The reason
is that a Mac textfile is not the same as an IBM textfile (one uses
line feeds and the other doesn't). MLP includes translators that will
take care of everything for you: you just select the file type of the
source file and the file type of the destination file to be written.
Nice interface, and many different translators are included (WordStar,
Word, WordPerfect, binary, text, etc.). Also, whichever direction your
transfer is going, you can sit at the Mac and not have to touch the IBM.
The only problem is if you have to transfer a lot of files, because MLP
only allows you to transfer one file at a time.
--
Earl M. Williams ?8^) "No matter where you go, there you are."
Inst. of Education, U. of London -Buckaroo Banzai
JANET: tejtemw@isis.educ.lon.ac.uk "When in doubt, lay it out."
BITNET: tejtemw%<same>@ukacrl.bitnet -Captain Ultimate [Frisbee]
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 11:17 CST
From: <BPB9204%TAMSTAR.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Memory Upgrades
Sorry to rehash this topic, but...
When it was covered about a month ago(maybe longer - don't remember), I
had saved the replies about cheap memory vendors in my account on the U.'s
vax. Unfortunately, I get the account with trouble disk space, so it was
zapped.
This December I'm expanding my Plus to 4 megs. From what I have read,
I can use 80 nsec SIMMs, right? I read the plus need 150ns or faster.
I also remember a reply to the effect of someone locating a vendor selling
80ns SIMMs for $84 ? Where?
After talking to my local Apple Dealer here, $270 for two megs is not the
way I want to go.
For the people out there who have bought the memory, please send me the
prices, company and possibly phone numbers/addresses.
I'd also appreciate any clarification on the chip speeds that the Plus
requires if my assumptions are wrong.
Brent Burton
BPB9204@TAMSTAR
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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 89 21:16:47 CST
From: kc_yeo@sngsf1.sinet.slb.com (KC Yeo*Sedco Forex S'pore*Tel-65-345-9944*Fax-65-344-2655)
Subject: PagaMaker 3.0 problem - cannot open file
I have problem with PageMaker 3.0. There is a document created by PM 3.0 on
the hard disk, the icon is PM also. Double click or Open file in PM results in
a dialog as below :
Cannot Open file
File is not a PageMaker publication
7009:5004
The document is on Mac II, so I made a copy to floppy and tried on Mac SE but
problem still persists. I tried both Finder and MultiFinder but to no avail.
Local Apple support couldn't help, can you ? Thanks in advance any lights you
may shed.
Arthur Yeo
SINet : KC_YEO@SNGSF1.SINET.SLB.COM
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 07:48 EDT
From: <SZAWASKY%WHEATNMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Page numbering, How do I get rid of the 1?
I have been using word processors for quite some time now. All the
word processors I have used have become over time more and more powerful. The
manuals, in general, have become better and better, but NOWHERE have I found
how to number a document EXCEPT for the first page.
I am now using MSWord 4.0 on the mac (SEfdhd in 6.04). We purchased it
through our Word 3.02. We bought the "educational" package. This translates
to "virtually undocumented" package. Needless to say 4.0 came with a small
book of changes, and a quick reference card. It was hardly a supplement to the
terse manual that came with 3.02.
Please help me. I have wondered for years how to get rid of that b
blasted 1. I figured of any word processor, MSWord 4.0 could do it.
Thank you in advance...
Spencer 'the not' Zawasky
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Date: Sun, 19 Nov 89 20:22:08 -0500
From: earleh@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Earle R. Horton)
Subject: PD Yacc for MPW.
This is a public domain yacc implementation for MPW, containing both
tool and source code. I glommed the sources from tut.cis.ohio-state.edu,
so thanks to whoever put them there. What follows is a portion of the
README file contained with the sources, then a Bin Hexed Stuffit archive
containing tool and sources.
If you don't want to read the documentation, then the only thing you
really have to know about the tool is that the parser file is stored in
the data fork. In order for the tool to find the parser file, invoke
it using a script or alias which uses the tool's full pathname.
Earle R. Horton
Berkeley Yacc is an LALR(1) parser generator. Berkeley Yacc has been
made as compatible as possible with AT&T Yacc. Berkeley Yacc can accept any
input specification that conforms to the AT&T Yacc documentation.
Specifications that take advantage of undocumented features of AT&T Yacc will
probably be rejected.
Berkeley Yacc is distributed with no warranty whatever. No contributor
takes responsibility for any consequences of its use.
The source code for Berkeley Yacc is in the public domain. The data
structures and algorithms used in Berkeley Yacc are all either taken from
documents available to the general public or are inventions of the author.
Anyone may freely distribute unchanged or modified copies of Berkeley Yacc.
However, no proprietary claims should be made on the original code. Output
generated by Berkeley Yacc may be freely distributed.
...
[Archived as /info-mac/lang/mpw-yacc.hqx; 139K]
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 12:30:22 +0100
From: jurjen@cwi.nl
Subject: RGB monitor "focus" line
The "focus" line is actually the shadow of a very thin wire running across the
screen's color mask. It seems to be neccesary for some reason to keep the mask
in place. Lots of screens have this; a Sun SPARC even has two of these lines.
--
| | "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what |
| Jurjen N.E. Bos | it might appear to others that what you were or might |
| | have been was not otherwise than what you had been |
| jurjen@cwi.nl | would have appeared to them to be otherwise." |
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 17:15:59 -0500
From: DXANDY%widener.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Shimmering Screens
Thanks to everyone who responded with suggestions to my "shimmering screen"
problem. Judging by the amount of mail I got, it would seem that this is a
fairly common problem. Unfortunately, there appear to be no sure fire ways
to fix this problem. However, the good news is that this particular problem
doesn't seem to be terminal, if you can live with it, you are ok.
There do seem to be other screen problems that are not so benign. I did
get mail from people whose power supplies expired after suffering from screen
problems. These problems seemed to involve shrinking screens and more violent
fluctuations. If you suffer from these symptoms, the general consensus of
opinion seems to be "Get your power supply looked at/replaced ASAP".
Ok, here is the next question......
I am trying to write a program to communicate with my modem. I am using
Lightspeed C and Lightspeed Pascal, but I have not had much luck. I have
"Macintosh Revealed" volumes I II & III. I also have "How to Write Macintosh
Software". Unfortunately, both these texts tell me to refer Inside Macintosh
everytime I look something up. They do mention something about a device driver
but do not go into any depth. If anyone could help me with this problem, I
would be very grateful.
Andrew J. Greenshields [dxandy@widener.BITNET]
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 10:51:52 EDT
From: Dave Elbon <SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu>
Subject: Slow Finder
A Mac in our office came down with a case of very slow screen updates
>From the Finder last week. Opening a folder would take several seconds
instead of the normal nearly instantaneous response. I ran Disinfectant
1.2 and it found nothing. I looked around with ResEdit and found that
the Desktop file had been renamed DeskTop, moved into the System Folder,
and made visible. I changed it back to its normal state and the Finder
seems to be its old self again. What might have caused this?
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 12:15 EST
From: "PAUL R. POTTS" <PPOTTS%WATSON.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: System 6.0.4 report
We've been using System 6.0.4 for a month or so now and have had no
compatibility problems whatsoever. Some comments made by the author
of the 6.0.4 problem report leads me to think that some of his other
software was causing the problems.
The SUM Shield INIT has always been problematic here, back when I used
it. It caused a lot of spontaneous crashes for me under system 6.02
and 6.03, especially on shutting down. It's possible that changes in
the system software under 6.0.4 have rendered it even buggier, since
the traps and/or their associated patches that Shield patches may have
changed. In addition, I think that Super Laser Spool has gone through
a number of revisions: I know of a coworker who has had no end of
compatibility problems with it. I use a fair number of INITs, but
those are two that I would stay far away from. I can't vouch for
the text editors that you were using.
What the salesperson may have meant when he said that 6.0.2 wouldn't
support the Superdrives fully is this: I believe that the version
of Apple File Exchange that came with 6.0.2 wouldn't read MS-DOS
disks from a Superdrive, but just from a 5.25-inch drive. Since
the SE/30 was the first Mac to ship with a Superdrive, it came with
6.0.3. 6.0.2 was a pretty solid release; 6.0.3 had patches which
would fix a driver incompatibility with the SE/30, and 6.0.4 has
changes necessary for the IIci and Portable. 6.0.4 also includes
some additional patches which will be part of system 7, including
some material which is mainly for developers doing Script Manager work.
There may be other reasons for the problems you have had with 6.0.4 -
the particular intallation set you had may have been bad, it may be
a problem with older versions of some of those INITs, or it may be
as you suspected, that some of your software isn't very clean. I
haven't tested WriteNow 2.0 under 6.0.4, but I'll do that next. We
use Word 4.0 here, but I've also run 6.0.4 with Ready, Set, Go!,
Think C and Pascal, Redux, PacerLink, Guide, SAM, ResEdit, SuperPaint,
MacPaint, and about a dozen other applications, with no problems. I
have had situations where a particularly nasty crash has toasted the
actual system files on my hard disk - maybe that happened to you.
I wouldn't blame Apple's system release in this case.
-Paul Potts, Intern for Documentation, Academic Computing Services,
The College of Wooster
(Disk-claimer: I wrote this on my own initiative; I don't work for
Apple, these aren't the opinions of my employers (or may not be -
I haven't asked them), and no one held a gun to my head to write them)
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 89 08:54 CST
From: <JJM3383%TAMSIGMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Uninvited.
I am embarassed to post such a frivolus note, but here is the note. I
like riddle games and my girlfriend and I have solved fool's errand I & II and
Shadowgate. But two years ago we bought uninvited, and never managed to get the
key from the little gremlin or to get past the huge spider. If anyone has
solved this, send me a note on one or the other, I don't want to many hints.
thanks,
...jeph
PS. Please believe that I do more on my machine than play games.
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