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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 4 Dec 89 Volume 7 : Issue 214 Today's Topics: Abaton shrinking size Answers to 2 programming questions Anyone know of an Auditing Init Apple Share PC II Cross assemblers Defaults,ResEdit & BIG SCREENS for SE Info-Mac Digest V7 #211 Info-Mac Digest V7 #212 [MacNFS (summary) Low cost memory Mac applications for the blind request Mathematical Word Processing Microsoft Word or Hardware problem Mighty Nerd MS Word 4.0, Ready Set Go! Network Plotter Page numbering, How do I get rid of the 1? removable cartridge HD systems reply 1st page numbering in Word 4.0 Systems Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indicies are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 10:41:52 EST From: Jim Kenyon <TGHVET%vm.utcs.utoronto.ca@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Abaton shrinking size I've just installed an Abaton 300FB on a 2.5meg SE under 6.02 and using C-Scan 1.0. The system has been working for about two weeks and suddenly gives me an error....not enough memory on the drive. This is with 12 meg left on a LaCie 140. It will allow me to scan an 8x10, but not a letter size sheet. Last night, after downloading a few things, the available space on the LaCie is 9 meg...and I now can only scan a 5x7 sheet and the same error comes up with the 8x10! Is it checking for a percentage of free space rather than the actual free space? Any other theories? At this rate, I'll be able to do postage stamps by the weekend! Any thoughts to tghvet@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca and I will summarize back to the list. Jim Kenyon NetNORTH: tghvet@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca Director, Veterinary Services CONNECT: MacVET The Toronto Hospital Toronto, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1989 09:21:35 CST From: Michael Hanrahan <C09615MH%WUVMD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Answers to 2 programming questions Hi, There were two programming questions in the last Info-Mac which (for a change) I think I can answer. The first one dealt with using the serial port & writing out to a modem. As one might expect, the Mac deals with the ports as files. In order to send characters out the ports, you need to write to a "file reference number." The only difference is before doing so, instead of using Standard File to point the reference number at a disk file, you use the following routines: Routine Name Description IM-page ===================================================================== SerReset resets & configures communication parms for the specified port II-250 SerSetBuf tells the File Manager how big a buffer you want to use for the port II-251 SerHShake lets you set XON/XOFF type things II-251 Once you've configured a port, you can read from it by using SerGetBuf to find out how many characters are waiting in the buffer, then read out those characters. The second question dealt with drawing the "default" outline around a button. In short, there's no flag you can set to have the Control Manager do this when it draws the button. You have to do it yourself by performing the following steps: 1) get the rectangle for the "bare" button 2) use InsetRect with negative numbers to "outset" that rectangle 3) set the pen width to 3 pixels 4) use FrameRoundRect to draw the round rectangle frame 5) viola! - a default outline around the button - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In a related question, has anyone figured out a way to insure their default outline *stays* around the button? If a screen saver kicks in, once the screen is redrawn, if no special efforts are made, your outline is gone (the controls & the dialog are redrawn 'cuz their managers take care of the update event). Does the main program's routine for handling update events need to contain extra code for dialogs as well or can one intercept that event conveniently in a dialog filter function? Thanks... Michael Hanrahan ECS Computing Clinic Washington University St. Louis, MO 63130 ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 18:38:19 GMT From: usenet@paris.ics.uci.edu Subject: Anyone know of an Auditing Init ROHAN%ASTRO.SPAN@star.stanford.edu writes: >I am looking for an auditing program. A program that logs the amount of >time selected applications are used. Does anyone know of such a beast? >(public domain or otherwise). I have seen an INIT called Logger. It is shareware $10 from: Ricardo Batista 3440 Lebon Drive #4307 San Diego, CA 92122 (619) 587-0623 It will not keep track of when a user went to lunch but still left Microsoft Word running. It will log when the Mac is started, retarted, when each program is launched (including the Finder), etc. It used it long enough to see that, yes, it does work, but I have no need for that kind of auditability so I don't use it regularly. I remember that it is totally transparent in operation. In fact, you need to remember to periodically purge the log file to keep it from bloating to gargantuan proportions. I think a monthly archive makes sense. --scott -- Scott Truesdell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 13:47:44 CST From: Larry Pickett <C4898%UMSLVMA.BITNET@umrvmb.umr.edu> Subject: Apple Share PC II I'm having problems with Apple Share PC II. The setup is a PS2/50 attached to a token ring network, a Mac II with an early release of the internet router connecting the token ring with local talk. After installing the ASPC II the da runs but no services are visible. Possibly I need an updated version of the router? Anyone have the same arrangement and having success?? Acknowledge-To: <C4898@UMSLVMA> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 15:28 CST From: SCHACHTER@nuacc.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Cross assemblers Has anyone out there heard of/seen/written any cross assemblers for the Macintosh? I am most interested in the Intel 8080 family of processors (believe it or not), but would like to see any examples that anyone has. Source code most appreciated! Please respond to me directly. If there is sufficient interest, I will summarize. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 08:49:47 PST From: JMUELLER%PPC.MFENET@ccc.nmfecc.gov Subject: Defaults,ResEdit & BIG SCREENS for SE Ahoy the Net! The engineer with 6.02E23 questions and few answers is on the line again! My newest questions to the crew of the good ship Info-Mac are: A) Defaults, or AAARGH! Why wont you stay where I PUT you! This is more for my wife, who it annoys more than it does me. I know of some programs that let you set up your own default settings so you dont have to click all the check boxes you normally use each time you run it. But, is there some way to do the same thing to System Stuff like the LaserWriter Page Setup dialog box, or to select a different button to bear the heavy border/hit Return honor? I don't think I'm a neo at ResEdit (I ain't afraid of no Icon...) but I havn't found a Resource that explicitly says "Yo! This means select for default!" or maybe I'm just lacking the right Template. (ResEdit 1.3d1) By the way, ResEdit 1.3d1 DOES have a font editor, doesn't it? Every time I try to open a font, "The aplication ResEdit 1.3d1 has unexpectedly quit." Maybe it's just me. B) Have there been comprehensive reviews of disk-locking software in the general press? I'm usually pretty thorough, but I may have missed it. I am looking for a good, simple, reliable, non-intrusive, COMMERCIAL disk locking software. The manager I am hunting this down for does not need encription capability, just the ability to password lock his hard disk so nobody messes around with it off hours (read: cleaning crew). The Muzzler looks too cumbersome and a key lock disk scheme may get misplaced too easily. I have shown him the shareware items LockDisk and DriveLock, but it is not the Lab's policy to support "ShareWare" nor do they trust any item without a package or purchase order. It's hard enough getting anything without Microsoft or Apple on it. c oops. C) Awright, what's the poop on Tech Note 31? Was the item recently posted as TN31 actually Apple's April Fool effort? Wether it was or not, we enjoyed it very much. Moof! D) Can one rig Facade 1.0 so it will use a particular ICN# for any volume bearing PART of a name? ie:volumes named Comic Book File 09-89, Comic Book File 10-89 and Comic Book File 11-89 all bear the icon of a comic book. I tried the old * as wild-card trick to no success. E) A while ago (Info-Mac V7 #193) I had posted a question concerning experience with the new crop of low-cost "two-page" monitors for the Mac SE like the Ehman. Here is the summary of replies: Nil, zippo, none, naught, see also:the null set. I assume this means nobody has tried these cheapo screens. Oh well, someone has to be first. F) I cannot recall if there actually was any replies to the person who asked about converting ICONs to ICN#s & back. I just found out while making ICN#s for Facade that ResEdit's MacPaint-like Cut & Paste will work, but you don't select the ICON or ICN# in the box. You open the ICN# or ICON and select the bitmap using the marquee (is that spelled right?). You get THAT by holding down the Shift key. Once it's selected, you copy or cut, close the editing window, go to the resource you want to paste it into, choose New, and Paste it in. Presto! Going TO an ICN# means you have to generate a mask, but that's in the menu under ICN#. G) AND FINALLY (Hooray, they cried!) Has anyone heard if TOPS is going to change over to AFP now that PSN is coming out already compatible with AFP? I know of several intrested customers who have been shying away from TOPS since it is not "AppleShare Compatible"(flourish of strumpets). That's all, folks. Awaiting replys with baited ...um...mail service. Ad Astra! Jim Mueller JMUELLER@PPC.MFEnet via MFEnet JMUELLER%PPC.MFEnet@NMFECC.LLNL.GOV via Internet JMUELLER%PPC.MFEnet@LBL.Bitnet via Bitnet Princeton Plasma Physics Lab Where Fusion is a way of Life! DICLAIMER: Lies! All Lies! These are obviously the ravings of a deranged personality. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 11:25 PST From: MDIEHR@hmcvax.claremont.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #211 Subj: Want to convert 500 slides to Laser Disk format. Does anyone know of any companies that will take 35mm slides (about 500 of them) and put them on a laserdisk (possibly with a short sound segment with each slide)??? About how much would this cost? Would it be sig- nificantly cheaper if I put the slides on videotape and gave them the tape? (This is not for a comercial project--just in-house training materials) Thanks for your help. Mike Diehr Bitnet: Mdiehr@hmcvax IN: "mdiehr@hmcvax.claremont.edu" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 08:46:24 EST From: Gavin_Eadie@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #212 [MacNFS (summary) > MacNFS has been developed by people from the University of > Michigan, and APPLE itself was so interested in that product > that it acquired the rights to MacNFS. In fact, the work was done under contract to Apple so Apple was involved from the beginning and didn't enter the game after the fact. --- Gavin Eadie, The University of Michigan Computing Center ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 11:13:23 MST From: Bob Bolt <BBOLT%UALTAVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Low cost memory A recent message in Info-mac asked for information on cheap RAM. The best price that have seen is from the Chip Merchant - they have been advertising in MacWeek for $79 per meg. This is 80ns Fast Page ram, which should work with everything, including the IIci. The Chip Merchant is located in San Diego and the number is 800-426-6375. They offer a 5 year guarantee, but I do not know how good the chips are or how good their support is. Speaking of fast page RAM, does anyone know what that means? I have heard that it is a requirement for RAM in a Mac IIci. Just another buzz word or is this a special type of RAM? ================================================================== Bob Bolt Bitnet: BBOLT@UALTAVM Instructional Tech Centre CI$: 75410,2754 University of Alberta AppleLink: BBOLT@UALTAVM.BITNET@DASNET# ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 15:30 EST From: MARK 'YANKIEKIWI' DODD <S71DDOD@toe.towson.edu> Subject: Mac applications for the blind request Hi all, I am requesting any public domain or demo programs that are designed to assists the blind. I know of the Apple Closeview that enlarges the screen for those who are partially blind. I also remember seeing a program that works in conjunction with Macintalk so that when you choose a menu option it tells you what the choice was. Does anyone know where I could find this program or something like it? Just for the background, I am doing a research paper for my university class and I would like to demonstrate some programs that aid the blind or partially blind in using a Macintosh. Thank you in advance. Mark. P.S. I need this information as soon as possible. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 15:24:20 EST From: IB031BU <IB031BU%TCUAMUS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Mathematical Word Processing I am an academic mathematician/statistician. For the past ten years, I have used Waterloo Script on IBM mainframes for my wordprocessing needs. For the past three years, I have used the Waterloo Script Formula Processor to handle complex mathematical notation for my research writing and class notes. Recently, I purchased a Mac IIcx for home and would like to know what software is best for mathematical word processing. The choice of word processors seems to boil down to MS Word 4.0 and WordPerfect 1.0.3. (My major reason for considering WordPerfect is that I have an IBM compatible on my desk at work with WordPerfect 5.0 and it would be nice to have the ability to transfer work between the two machines.) >From what I know, it seems that I will also want to use a package such as Expressionist, MathType, or Formulator along with the word processor to handle mathematical formulas. Are there any mathematician or statistician types (a.k.a. Quantoids) out there with suggestions or recommendations? I would also be interested in your opinions about draw or draw/paint programs that would be useful for mathematical word processing (e.g., diagrams). Thanks in advance for your help. Brian Gray Phone: (817) 921-7563 Texas Christian University Bitnet: IB031BU.TCUAMUS P. O. Box 32868 Fort Worth, Texas 76129 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 17:36:56 EST From: "Mark A. Saper" <SAPER@xtal0.harvard.edu> Subject: Microsoft Word or Hardware problem I'm working with Tables in Microsoft Word 4.0 and am finding everything extremely slow. In fact things seem to freeze sometimes. After I select a column (using option Click), I can not access and command in the menus until I unselect the column. Anyone have a fix? We have a Mac II with 2meg and a 40meg hard disk which is pretty full. I'm losing my entusiasm for Mac's very quickly. Thanks, Mark A. Saper Phone: (617) 495-5043 Harvard University Facsimile: (617) 495-9613 7 Divinity Ave. BitNet: SAPER@HUXTAL.BITNET Cambridge, MA 02138 InterNet: saper@xtal0.harvard.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 14:42:39 CST From: Paul Heroy <HEROY%LSUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Mighty Nerd Hi Macxperts, It's that time of the year again - holidays, fun 'n' games during the Christmas break, etc, and I remember seeing an ad in MacWeek a few months ago for a game called Mighty Nerd. The game supposedly allows you to create a superhero of some kind and fight villains, and also edit their respective powers. Has anyone out there seen or played or heard anything about this game? I've never seen it reviewed anywhere - although I haven't seen most of this year's issues of MacWorld. Thanks for any info. Paul Heroy BITNET: SNHERO@LSUVM INTERNET: snhero@lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 15:09:23 EST From: "Chris Khoury (Sari's Son)" <3XMQGAA%CMUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: MS Word 4.0, Ready Set Go! I have two questions, the first: Thru educational discount at my university, I can get Microsoft Word 4.0 for $1 09. Sounds like a great deal but are there any limitations to the program? Do I get the same upgrade policies? And do I get the free programs like Auto Mac II I and SuperPaint? 2nd question On ready, set, go 4.5, There appears to be fonts under the font menu that aren' t installed. I checked this out with Font/DA mover and there are no added fonts on RSG. How did the fonts get in there? How can I remove them? Thanks Alot Chris Khoury Acknowledge-To: <3XMQGAA@CMUVM> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 11:02 CST From: MONCRIEF%TCUAVMS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu Subject: Network Plotter Is there anyone out there that can give advice on sharing a plotter over an AppleTalk network? I have found two products, Shiva's NetSerial and DataSpace's Plotter NT but I need to know if anyone has tried either of these products an d the pros and cons. We are looking at using a Hewlett-Packard plotter. Also has anyone tried to network Claris CAD or know of a comparable CAD package that is networkable? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Karen Karen Moncrief Senior User Services Consultant Texas Christian University Fort Worth, Texas 76129 MONCRIEF@TCUAVMS AppleLink: U1069 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 14:32 EDT From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen) Subject: Page numbering, How do I get rid of the 1? Spencer 'the not' Zawasky wonders how to have page numbers on all pages except page number 1. Well, Spence, I hope you didn't buy Word 4.0 just to satisfy this need. Of course 4.0 will do this, so will 3.0, so will 1.0, so will MacWrite. Here's how: MacWrite: 1) Open Footer [Format menu] (or header, I don't care) and drag the page number icon where ever you want it below the ruler. Now you have page numbers on all pages. 2) Position the insertion point anywhere on the first page and select "title page" [Format menu]. This will surpress the foot with its page number. Word 4.0: 1) Section [Format menu] check the "First Page Special" check box and click "OK" 2) Open Footer [Document menu] and position your page number where ever you want it. 3) Open First Footer [Document menu] and make sure it is empty, if it's not, then delete the page number that is in there. Word 3.0: Basically the same as 4.0 Hope this helps. Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer specialist Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346 AppleLink - U0523 BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 17:21:45 HFH From: Heiner Brinnel <BRINNEL%FRSUN12.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: removable cartridge HD systems Q Hello Netlanders! We are looking forward purchasing a removable 40-45 MO HD system (cartridge-systems). In France, such systems are available from SYQUEST, IOMEGA, and CREX. Has anybody an idea of their performances and reliability? Thank you for your reply H. Brinnel, M. D. Head: Dept of Medicine and Dept of Pathophysiology Hopital-Maternite B. P. 0116 69593 L'Arbresle (near Lyons) France e-mail: brinnel@frsun12. bitnet Acknowledge-To: <BRINNEL@FRSUN12> ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 08:49:00 EST From: "ZZT" <zzt@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov> Subject: reply 1st page numbering in Word 4.0 Reply: Page numbering, How do I get rid of the 1? > The manuals, in general, have become better and better, but NOWHERE have > I found how to number a document EXCEPT for the first page. I am now > using MSWord 4.0 on the mac The simplest way is to first do the "Documnet..." command, and check the box for "first page special". Then when you go to edit the header (or footer) you will find that there is a special header (or footer) for the first page. So you just put your page number into the regular header (or footer) and make sure that it is not in the special header (or footer) Jon Tischler ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 09:57:48 PLT From: Paul Brians <HRC$04%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Systems A knowledgable dealer at our campus store sent me the following about Mac systems. According to Apple, the only reason to use 6.0.3 is if you have the FDHD drive (1.4 meg). If not, stay with 6.0.2. The "fix" to 6.0.4 is only needed to support the new Mac IIci and Macintosh Portable. Same story: don't bother if you don't have one of these machines. Good news. Now if only I can locate my old copy of 6.0.2. And why did the new Plus I bought last week come with 6.0.3? ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************