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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 13 Dec 89 Volume 7 : Issue 220 Today's Topics: Amiga Mac emulator reviewed default buttons and round rects DeskWriter evaluation Help With FileInfo Hypercard Exporting Inexpensive Mac dot-matrix printer Info-Mac Digest V7 #214 Info-Mac Digest V7 #216 Lisas for landfill MacPassword 3.5.1 Outlining default buttons Requests for help in writing screen savers Review: Datadesk 101 keyboard (longish) Spontaineous Compustion and the Macintosh Submission to info-mac digest Technical Notes, 12-89 Telephone Dial Sounds WDEF virus Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indicies are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 13:06 EST From: <FILLMORE%EMRCAN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Amiga Mac emulator reviewed I have some additional comments on A-Max (Amiga Mac emulator): - I am running A-Max on an Amiga 2000 with 3 megs and have very few problems. I am running System 6.0.3. Finder and Multifinder are fine. I have configured 1.5 megs for Mac emulation and 1.5 megs for RAM disk. - I'm using a public-domain utility for saving PRAM settings such as mouse speed. - communications programs such as Z-Term work fine. - Hypercard works fine (I had to configure 1.5 megs to get it to work) --> make sure your Hypercard disk is write-enabled. - there is an equivalent to the interrupt button but I forget what it is (It's in the manual, read very carefully!) - most software I have tried works fine, but I'm not a Mac "power user" I use a Mac SE/30 at work and the Amiga at home - great for my purposes. ________________________ Bob Fillmore, Systems Software & Communications BITNET: FILLMORE@EMRCAN Computer Services Centre, BIX: bfillmore Energy, Mines, & Resources Canada Voice: (613) 992-2832 588 Booth St., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0E4 FAX: (613) 996-2953 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 09:44 EST From: "PAUL R. POTTS" <PPOTTS%WATSON.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: default buttons and round rects On the subject of how to draw round rectangles around buttons so they will stay there: People have recently posted another way to do it: it's also in the "Mac One-Liners" on the MacServe archives. This method is to draw a round rect as a PICT and paste it in to your dialogue template using ResEdit. Paste it behind the button. Then when ModalDialog gets an update event, it will redraw the PICT as well, and the round rect will still be there. The only disadvantage to this method is that you can't change which button gets the default round rect dynamically, depending on the state of the program. The slightly more difficult way is to do what I did and write a filter procedure. I decided I wanted to add the following functionality to my ModalDialog calls: 1) I wanted the user to be able to hit command key equivalents instead of clicking buttons, or straight key equivalents if there were no editable text fields in the dialog; 2) I wanted the user to be able to put in a disk while my ModalDialog was up and have the computer mount the disk, or ask "do you wish to initialize" if the disk is bad; 3) I wanted to intercept update events and re-draw anything in the dialog, like default round rectangles around the buttons, that my dialog resources didn't have in them. 4) I wanted to be able to experiment with other weird things, like making a modal dialog that did animation while waiting for the user to press a key (this is fairly easy: if you have something that can be redrawn very quickly, like an icon, you have the Port and can draw it when you get a null event.) I wrote the functionality of the first three into a small application and article and sent them to MacTutor magazine a few months ago. They expressed an interest in publishing it, so I sent them a revised version, but I haven't heard from them lately. Meanwhile, if anyone is heavily into ModalDialog I would be glad to talk to them, send them code excerpts, etc. I don't want to post my article/application because MacTutor might be planning to run it. P.S.: I'll also be looking for a programming job, come next May... ===================== Long live the toolbox =========================== Paul R. Potts - PPOTTS@WOOSTER on Bitnet - Paul Potts on America Online - Intern for Documentation, Academic Computing Services - The College of Wooster - Wooster OH 44691.....My opinions are my own, and anyone else who expresses them is obviously a cheesy imposter! ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 89 0148 PST From: Tovar <TVR%CCRMA-F4@sail.stanford.edu> Subject: DeskWriter evaluation I considered the HP DeskWriter for personal use, but decided against it for the present time. As advertised, its quality is somewhere between an ImageWriter II and a LaserWriter. Its resolution is claimed to be 300 dpi, but i find that number unconvincing for an `ink spitter'. I think may be an question of the size of the the ink drops on the paper (including spreading?) and repeatability in position, as otherwise it would be difficult to distinguish from LaserWriter output. But that wasn't much of an issue for me. The PostScript fonts resident in the printer looked great. The problem for me as that it didn't do a decent job of translating the QuickDraw font that i had available to me for testing. Given that i use my own font for programming, and that the fonts i prefer for my correspondence are not the formal kind from Adobe, this was not acceptable to me. This is in contrast to the LaserWriter, where if you supply a large point size QuickDraw font, it often generates rather good looking output, even without the Adobe `hints'. Now, if the Adobe Type Manager is able to take a large QuickDraw font, and make pretty DeskWriter output, i'd go check my bank balance. But for now, i'll have to wait at least until System 7, and probably until i can understand Apple's outline fonts well enough to use them. -- Tovar P.S. While it is a plain paper printer, i think the paper has to have certain properties to generate good looking output. Perhaps someone else knows more definitively, but it may not work well for things like letterhead. ------------------------------ Date: Saturday, 9 December 1989 12:23pm CST From: STEVE.SWINNEA@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Help With FileInfo I am trying to do something rather simple. Using stdio, I want to open a file (fileName),write to it, close it, and then change its fdCreator before exiting the program. The basic outline of my code is as follows Str255 fileName; HFileParam fp; WDPBRec wp; FILE a; fileName = "fileName" ; a = fopen(filename,"w"); write to file fclose(a); PBGetWDInfo(&wp,0); fp.ioVRefNum=wp.ioWDVRefNum; CtoPStr(fileName); fp.ioNamePtr=fileName; PBHGetFInfo(&fp,0); fp.ioFlFndrInfo.fdCreator='TYPE'; PBHSetFInfo(&fp,0); Please forgive the lack of detailed syntax, but this is a sketch of what I've been trying. I would appreciate seeing a bit of working THINK 3.0 working code that would accomplish this. I can't even seem to get CtoPStr to work. I have difficulty after I close the file and begin to modify the Finder Info. Thanks, Steve Swinnea CHAA013@UTA3081.cc.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Dec 89 12:36:53 EST From: "Chris Khoury (Sari's Son)" <3XMQGAA%CMUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Hypercard Exporting I have an address stack that I want to export to a database or Excel. Is t here a command or XCMD/XCFN that will allow me to do that? Thanks, Chris Khoury Acknowledge-To: <3XMQGAA@CMUVM> ------------------------------ Date: 11 Dec 89 11:32:00 EST From: "TEE" <tee@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov> Subject: Inexpensive Mac dot-matrix printer Hello World, I am in the market for an el-cheapo dot-matrix printer for my Mac. From various discussions on the nets, it looks like there are some problems associated with using hardware and software interfaces to non-Mac printers (like Grappler, etc.). So, I thought I would stick with a printer designed specifically for the Mac. The only ImageWriter clone I know of is the Seikosha SP 1000 AP printer. The ImageWriter II is ridiculously expensive for a dot matrix printer, so I guess it's Clone Time. So here's a few questions: 1. Does anyone have any good/bad experience with the Seikosha ? 2. The Seikosha supposedly provides the features of an ImageWriter I.... What's the difference between an ImageWriter I and an ImageWriter II ? 3. Are there any other ImageWriter clones on the market? Thanks, Steve Teeters ------------------------------ Date: 5 Dec 89 23:29:16 EST (Tue) From: uunet!jc3b21!david%pasteur.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (David Quarles) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #214 Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators): > > Q > Hello Netlanders! > We are looking forward purchasing a removable 40-45 MO HD system > (cartridge-systems). > In France, such systems are available from SYQUEST, IOMEGA, and > CREX. > Has anybody an idea of their performances and reliability? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I purchased Ehman Engineering's 44 Meg removable in August and think it works just fine. It is noiser than the 80 Meg internal in my SE/30, but then it cost me $849 (lately reduced to $799). It seems nearly as fast. I'd do it again. It comes with one cartridge (naturally) and extras are $99 each. This is an inexpensive way to have a lot of memory. Besides I really don't need more than 44 megs at any one time (yet). I do not anticipate needing to have a stack (Hypercard(tm)) this large anyway, for now. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dave =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EOT Dave Quarles Mathematics Department St. Petersburg Campus St. Petersburg Junior College P.O. Box 13489 St. Petersburg, Florida 33733-3489 Ph: (813) 341-4393 (recorder ans. on THIRD ring.) =-=-= Email: david@jc3b21.UUCP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dave =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EOT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 01:29:59 EST From: George <ST701640%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #216 This is my first time on this system. I know this may be a waste of your time, but I'm trying to write a "entertainment" software, and I need some tips. Wel l, it's more like, I need some serious help. My only concern now is how can I incorporate snd files into a program I'm writing in Pascal? And is there an easy way to program Appletalk? I talked to Randy Carr, who's supposed to be the guru of Appletalk for Apple, and he directed me to Inside Macintosh vols. whichever to whichever. But there isn't any examples given in them, only routi nes I can call. Is there any user friendliness in this world? I'm optimistic that there is. I'm writing in THINK's LSP 2.0, Mac SE, 2.5 megs, System 6.0.3, Finder 6.1. If needbe, I can incorporate assembly routines into my program. Please reply to st701640@Brownvm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 09:55:25 EST From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Lisas for landfill > R.I.P. > Apple recently buried 2,700 unsold Lisa computers in a Utah > landfill. Sun Remarketing purchased nearly 5,000 Lisa's for > resale several years ago and continues to support the > product, but Apple got a better taxbreak by destroying the > one time breakthrough technology computers than by giving > them away to schools or third-world countries. > - InfoWorld 23 October I am thoroughly appalled and disillusioned by this story. Is Apple in such financial straits as to be forced to commit a mindless and unconscionable act like this? I seriously doubt it. I am inclined to write to Mr. Sculley expressing my shock and disapproval concerning this story. If anyone else feels similarly, and is interested in some form of group letter, I would be willing to handle the paperwork. Please write me directly if you are interested. - Gregg Gregg TeHennepe | Minicomputer Specialist gateh@conncoll | Connecticut College, New London, CT ------------------------------ Date: Tue Nov 28 16:47:39 1989 From: microsoft!arts@uunet.uu.net Subject: MacPassword 3.5.1 MacPassword v3.5.1 is a password utility program designed to protect your hard disk drive from use by unauthorized users. Note: The manual is in MacWrite format and you MUST read it before using MacPassword for the first time! StuffIt is needed for decompressing this file. This is a DEMO Version that will only work for two months after you first use it. Registered users get the necessary keycode to unlock all the features and create an unlimited life version. Thanks for your support! Art Schumer - November 26, 1989 ========================================================================== Version 3.5.1 has significant new features and here's a list of what's new for the people who have used previous versions: ** Screen Saver Password Protection with user defined intervals * Higher Security Protection similar to AppleShare access privileges * Virus Protection superior to that found in other tools like Vaccine. * All Activity Now Optionally Sent to a Log File for Record Keeping * Volume Locking for protected volumes. * Online Help Added * All New Manual * New User Interface. * Sound File playback. * Animated Startup Icons in Color and B&W. * Guests can no longer access the MacPassword Control Panel device. * Abnormal shutdown will not leave system unprotected under guest access. * Command key equivalents for most screen functions * New Unique Error Sounds * Bad entry attempt message displayed when logon fails * All dialogs centered over Control Panel instead of screen * Will no longer allow duplicate entries in protected list box * Co-exists nicely with most of the new INIT Managers The shareware registration fee is now $35.00 ($37.24 for WA residents or $40.00 US funds drawn on a US bank for non-US shipped orders). Registered owners of previous versions can upgrade by sending in their original disk along with $12.00 ($12.97 for WA residents or $15.00 US funds drawn on a US bank for non-US shipped orders). Volume purchasers (over 2 copies per site) can upgrade for $8.00 per copy by sending in their original disks. If you already own version 3.x.x and want this new version, feel free to download it and apply the version 3.x.x keycode to unlock it for your use. [Archived as /info-mac/demo/macpassword-351.hqx; 116K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 11:09 EST From: JACKSON@mecan1.maine.edu Subject: Outlining default buttons Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit: The suggested approach to outlining the default button for dialog boxes does work; however, it's a pain to have that around in your code, and to call it for every update. As an alternative, try doing a screen dump of a dialog with the default outline. Then using your favorite paint program, copy just the outline part of the button (erasing the interior button first) and stick this into the resource file of your application using ResEdit. Then for every dialog box you create using ResEdit, just add another item that is the PICT resource for the outline. Just resize the PICT to whatever size you need for the default button in the dialog. Then the dialog manager handles the updates, and you don't need to worry about it in your code. Hope this helps. Jax ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 11:47:09 PST From: eastman@csa2.lbl.gov (Jack Eastman) Subject: Requests for help in writing screen savers >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 89 10:28 EST >From: Assistant Postmaster <BHERSEY@ocvaxa.oberlin.edu> >Subject: INSTALLING VERTICAL RETRACE TASKS > > I am writing a VBL task as part of a screen saver program. I have >been having a good deal of trouble adding my code to the VBL task queue. >Can anyone who has successfully written VBL tasks tell me why the following >code fragment does not work?... >... >David Hersey >Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH 44074 >bhersey@oberlin (Bitnet) >bhersey@ocvaxa.oberlin.edu >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 89 12:43 EST >From: "Composer-at-large..." <SNC0243@ocvaxa.oberlin.edu> >Subject: Request for source... > >Hello. I'm interested in writing a screen saver on the mac and I don't quite >know where to start. I was wondering if anyone had any source that they would >be willing to share with me. Thanks. > >-Noel Cragg ( SNC0243 @ Oberlin ) Usually when people want to write screen savers it's because they have some really cool graphics they want to use, not because they want to become a low- level system hacker. After Dark, the new screen saver from Berkeley Systems, is really a screen-saver shell; it does all the hard work for you, and lets you program your own graphics modules that kick in when it's time to sleep. (Of course it's not just a programmers' tool; we provide about 15 modules all ready to go.) More than half the manual is spent explaining how to write a graphics module, and the disk includes example code for two complete modules in MPW and THINK C and Pascal. Or maybe you WANT to patch a lot of traps...That's cool too! Jack Eastman Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory eastman@lbl.gov Disclaimer: I wrote After Dark. P.S. Maybe you Oberlin guys should get together... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 89 18:04:26 EST From: Damian%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Review: Datadesk 101 keyboard (longish) Review: Datadesk 101 keyboard (non-ADB version). It's simple... if you own a pre-SE Mac, are a good touch typist, and want to get the most out of your computer, the Datadesk 101 keyboard has to be one of the best buys you can make. It gives you all but 4 of the keys on the apple extended keyboard, and it has a quality of feel and response exceeded only by some of the most expensive office typewriters. The keyboard's physical dimensions are aproximately 19" x 7", with the keytops 1.25" above the desk in front, and 1.75" in back (rear can be raised .5" with folding feet). The key layout is identical to that of the IBM PC AT, although of course some of the keys are labeled differently, such as the "Option" key, which is "Alt" on the AT. Key shapes are somewhat different, and decidedly nicer than on the AT keyboard. Differences from the Apple extended keyboard are that it does not have a control key and power key, and lacks one key on the numeric pad (the "="). The December '89 issue of MacUser has an advertisment with a picture on page 45. I ordered mine from MacConnection, and two days later (they've been behind in shipping orders) it arrived by UPS. I unpacked it immediately, plugged it into my Plus (2 Meg, 20 Meg Dataframe external HD, System 6.0) and started typing away. What a joy... I think my typing speed must have gone up 20%. Next I installed the macro software that came with the keyboard, and... was in for my first disappointment. To put it simply, the Datadesk supplied software, called "Master Strokes," is a dog. You can only define key mappings >From one key to another and absolute event sequences a 'la Macromaker (Apple). Also, prmitive though it is, the user interface is bad and ugly. A week later I called MacConnection again, and ordered CE Software's QuicKeys. QuicKeys is a very nice program, and has been reviewed and talked about extensively, so I won't say much about it save that it does 95% of what I want it to do, which is pretty damn good. Also, it lets you define FKeys to arbitrary key sequences, and the FKey does NOT have to be in the range 0-9! That means that a programmer can assign any needed functionality to any key on the board. The keyboard has a few peculiarities that need to be mentioned. For one thing it is NOT compatible with the Apple extended keyboard. Rather, the main keyboard, cursor diamond, and numeric pad are compatible with the Macintosh Plus keyboard and numeric pad (with one exception which I'll mention in a moment) and the general and specialized function keys are compatible with only themselves. If you are going to use the keyboard with the Datadesk software or with QuicKeys you have no problem, as QuicKeys comes with an INIT that allows it to interpret the codes sent by the Datadesk keyboard, but if you want to use other software you might be out of luck. Also, the numeric pad differs from those of all Mac keyboards in having an oversized "+" key and no "=" key, which might be significant for terminal emulators which use the top row of the keypad as VT100 function keys. Despite these minor incompatibilities (most of which can be worked around with QuicKeys) I still highly recomment this keyboard to anyone who is stuck with an old Apple keyboard. Just plan the price of QuicKeys into your budget when you decide to buy it. Also, if you are buying a new Mac, SE or up, you might still want to look at the Datadesk keyboard as a cheaper, and in my opinion slightly better, alternative. I do not know wether the ADB version of the keyboard is fully compatible with the Apple extended keyboard or not. In summary, the Datadesk 101 keyboard is a complete keyboard with a nice layout and superior feel and response. The software is poor, but this can be worked around. I have not had any opportunity (fortunately :-) to test the quality of Datadesk's customer service, which could be an issue, and if anyone reading this has had this experience, I would be glad to hear about it. - Jurgen Botz Internet: JurgenB@UMass.bitnet Compuserve: 70531,600 Voice: (413) 256-8610 (US) P.S.: whoops...prices! MacConnection sells the keyboard for $139, QuicKeys is $65. P.P.S: Disclaimer: If you guessed that I have no connection to Datadesk, CE Software, or Apple Computer, Inc., other than as a satisfied customer, you were right. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 89 17:08 EST From: someone please stop the bunny <ACSAZ%SEMASSU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Spontaineous Compustion and the Macintosh Bitnet adrs: -> ACSAZ@SEMASSU, 10-DEC-1989 Hi here in the U. S. of A., at SMU (that's Southeastern Mass U) we have a problem with our little Mac pluses. You see tonight (sunday that is) a few minutes ago another one of our little creatures started smoking profusely. We DO have a no smoking policy in ALL our clusters and our machines are no excepion. This is the 5th or 6th disobediant little critter in the past year. You see, they are on from 8:30am to 11pm every weekday and don't run cooling fans. As a result a few of our little delinquents resort to smoking their power supplies. Now - does any one of you wise (non - smoking) personages know a solution to this dilemma? A Just Say No program? Cooling fans? Frequent spankings? Personal counseling with Zsa Zsa and Mrs Quail? Please.. I beg of you is there hope?? - Zav _________________________________________________________ `!' | - Southeastern Massachusetts University U S of A - | | Live From the 'REAL' SMU... iiiiiiit's Alex! | _-----_ | alias Alex Zavatone, RoadHazard (I've earned that one)| / _ _ \ | Discmaimer?!: You must be kidding | | O o | |-------------------------------------------------------- | v | | Bitnet -> ACSAZ@SEMASSU | ACS - It's not just a job | \ '___` / | Hepnet -> ALEX@SMUHEP | It's an Adventure! | | \_/ | |_________________________|___________________________| \___/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 08:39 CST From: <BERNSTEI%TAMODP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Submission to info-mac digest A while ago I posted the following: >I'm looking for a product which allows task-to-task communication (not just >just file transfer) between a MAC and a VAXcluster. I'm creating a Hypercard >front end for a VAX-resident non-SQL database.... >I've identified TSSnet and CommUnity as possibilities for task-to-task >communication via DECnet. Has anyone used the programming interface for > these product? If so, what were your experiences?... I did not receive many replies but the ones that did come in were helpful and I thank those that took the time to respond. These are the responses: **************************** Have you fully investigated CL/1? I have recently gotten the VMS server through a contact at Apple, and it is pure joy compared to anything else. If you are in the DEC CSLG, you can get Rdb for cost of media and documentation and write an API from your VAX database to Rdb (i.e., dump the data you commonly access into Rdb tables) then query from the Macs into Rdb from CL/1. Failing that, you can use ADSP to carry your requests from the Mac to the VAX (assuming you are running Appletalk for VMS on the VAX). This will require you to write some XCMDs for HyperCard to access the ADSP driver, plus some hacking on the VMS side. Unless you have lots of time and programmers to throw at the project, I would try CL/1. Jeff E Mandel MD MS Tulane University School of Medicine AS01MEF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU ******************************* There is a large ensemble of approaches that you could take for that problem. In any one of them, there is going to be some parsing required. I don't know what database you are planning to use, but there is always one way to get in. That is to pretend you're a terminal. Apple has a Serial Port extension set (HyperTerm) that can be used to log into your machine and talk to it. I would pass the returned info to an XCMD to do the parsing as HyperCard is a bit on the slow side. Another option, if your database tool supports it is to write the needed data to a file in a shared directory (i.e., mount your VMS or whatever directory as an HFS volume), and read the data as if it were local. That to is time consuming. Attempting to set up some intimate message passing may require more effort than you are willing to dish out. Kurt Christensen kjeld@crdecf.csc.ti.com ************************************ Here at Goddard we have used CommUnity Mac and have been rather satisfied. So far we have tried just one application, and that is an image display server that runs on the Mac. The image server is started on the Mac, and then a program is run on the VAX which forms a logical link to the Mac and then is able to display VAX-resident image files on the Mac screen. The CommUnity documentation gives some simple examples of code used for both the Mac-as-server and the VAX-as-server cases. We used both MPW C and Lightspeed C without any major headaches. To write an application, however, a knowledge of VAX programming with DECNET is necessary. The CommUnity documentation isn't of much help here. I did see that with VMS 5.x there is an example in SYS$EXAMPLES of a DECNET application, a database server I believe, that may be illustrative. User support from Technology Concepts has been fairly good, although when we first purchased CommUnity, it had some bugs, and it was many months before they shipped the fix via version 1.3. This new version has some minor weaknesses, e.g. it requires the network cdev to be set to the Ethernet setting (NCSA Telnet is smart enough to ignore the cdev setting). By the way, we consider the CommUnity applications such as Remote File Transfer to be a godsend (quick and simple file transfer between Mac and VAX). I believe someone told me that TSSNet was giving him problems, but I don't have any specifics, so you can consider that as hearsay. Ed Seiler Goddard Space Flight Center Greenbelt, MD seiler@chrpserv.gsfc.nasa.gov ******************************* End No one replied about TSSnet but both TSSnet and CommUnity will provide demo versions of their products. Another option which may be promising is to use AlisaTalk's AppleTalk services (which we currently own) to communicate with the Hypercard AppleTalk Toolkit. We are still reviewing all the options presented. If anyone has any insight to using AlisaTalk's AppleTalk Services, or further info on any of the previously discussed (i.e. TSSnet task-task). I'd love to hear from you. Again, thanks to those that responded. Larry Bernstein BERNSTEIN@TAMODP (bitnet) Ocean Drilling Program BERNSTEIN@ODPVAX.TAMU.EDU (internet) Texas A&M University College Station, Tx 77840 409-845-4870 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1989 23:42:21 PST From: The Moderators <Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Subject: Technical Notes, 12-89 The new batch of technical notes is in /apple/tn. Check /help/recent-files.txt to find out which ones are new. Also there are some NFNT screen fonts from Adobe in the /font/adobe directory, courtesy Craig Derose. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 09:43 EST From: Bob~Franchini <BOBF%YALEADS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Telephone Dial Sounds Hi Everyone, I'm writing an application using 4th Dimension running on a network of Mac SE's designed to allow automatic telephone dialing capability. I'd like to generate the necessary tones out of the audio output jack. Does anyone have the tones associated with the digits "0" through "9" saved as sound resources suitable for pasting into a 4th Dimension application ? If I get a number of suitable responses, I'll sumarize and forward to the network. Thanks, Bob Franchini - BOBF@YALEADS.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 89 11:45:35 -0600 From: Frank Steel <fsteele@uiucvmd.bitnet> Subject: WDEF virus I'm pretty sure the list has Disinfectant 1.4 now, so I'll skip instructions on how to get rid of WDEF. (By the way, the authors of Disinfectant deserve mass adulation for their rapid response on this one - and every other Mac virus thus far - To all of them, "hear, hear" :-)) I will send along the symptoms I've encountered so far in several infected labs at the University of Georgia. WDEF adds a resource of type WDEF (natch) to the invisible desktop file on Mac disks. It CAN spread via network to shared volumes, and it causes dramatic slowdowns on an AppleShare server. If your individual start-up disk has WDEF, the Mac will freeze when opening or closing windows. You may see the radial lines that usually blink momentarily when you close a window for up to 15-30 seconds. Additionally, the arrows in your monitor's upper left corner (denoting network connection) will stay on - they usually flash. Additionally, infected AppleShare volumes frequently cannot be removed by dragging them to the trash - they just stay there. John Norstad (one of the gentlemen on whom I just heaped adulation) hasn't yet discovered any purpose to the virus but propagation, but there are reports of it bombing IIci's and, less frequently, IIcx's. Damage to disks may be possible, as well. I've disinfected three labs here - The worst were the two with central file servers. I would clear the server(s) first - while no one is logged in - then each of the start-up volumes. Additionally, check any disks that are available for check-out and disks belonging to users. All the above information is accurate to the best of my knowledge. I'll be happy to respond to any queries via BITNET - my address is FSTEELE@UGA. I'd also like to know if any of the above has proved untrue in any case, or of any further useful experience with the virus. ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************