Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (01/11/90)
Info-Mac Digest Thu, 11 Jan 90 Volume 8 : Issue 5
Today's Topics:
About MultiFinder Hack
Adobe fonts from the archives
AppleTalk over Eternet cabling?
BlackHole Folder --- Help!
Building a CODE resource in Lightspeed Pascal - Problem
DateBook stack and the Find command
disk-catalog
Disk copy verification errors...
GIF files, the Mac, and FTP Archive List
Hard Disk Partitions?
Hard drive interleaves
HP Laserjet II query
Info-Mac Digest V8 #3
Keyboard equivalents in HyperCard
MPW C inline and Think C
Music-Organiser.hqx
Penguin Utilities stack
sicn ldef
Source code for sample Mac editor
Torx T-15 Screwdrivers
Ventura on AppleTalk via a PC-Talk Card
Word4 scrambles Superclock
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 90 09:18:30 PST
From: PUGH@ccc.nmfecc.gov
Subject: About MultiFinder Hack
Here is a hack to change the About box of the MultiFinder that comes with
MPW's SADE into something a bit more amusing. Merely bring up the about box
and then press the tab & spacebar while the box is showing. Chortle mildly.
This was written by Allan Foster.
In MultiFinder 6.1b7 change the following bytes.
This will activate the multifinder alternate aboutbox by Tab - SpaceBar
Resource Type = "CODE" ID = 2
Original Offset 2578
4A 2D FE AC 67 16 10 2D FE B0 B0 2D FE AE 66
04 53 2D FE B0 4C DF 20 01 58 4F 4E 73
Hacked Offset 2578
60 1A 10 38 01 7A 0C 00 00 03 66 04 53 6D FE
B0 10 2D FE B0 60 04 4E 71 4E 71 4E 75
Original Offset 7922
10 2D FE B0
Hacked Offset 7922
4E BA EB 20
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 90 13:26 EST
From: <CLAFFEY_%CTSTATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Adobe fonts from the archives
I recently began requesting some of the Adobe fonts from the Info-Mac
archives and have discovered that the various 'styles' (i.e. plain, bold,
italic, etc.) are stored seperately from each other, like the way different
fonts or point sizes are kept. Is there a way to merge the various styles?
Send to me and I will summarize to the net.
Joe Claffey
INTERNET: CLAFFEY_%.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
BITNET: CLAFFEY_JOR@CTSTATEU
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Date: 09 JAN 90 09:42:07
From: DERIDDER%SARA.NL@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: AppleTalk over Eternet cabling?
We are planning to install PhoneNet in our building. (Backbones with Kinetic
boxes to Ethernet).
Because we want the possibility for some (or all) backbones to switch to
Ethernet, we are planning to use Thin Ethernet cabling (RG58U) for our
PhoneNet backbone. In an experimental configuration (300 meter of cabling
and 15 PhoneNet nodes) everything worked OK.
Has anyone experience with such a configuration.
Kees de Ridder,
Free University, Chemical dept., Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
bitnet: deridder@sara.nl
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 90 02:25 CST
From: <D6506004%TWNTUCC1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: BlackHole Folder --- Help!
Dear NetUsers:
I have a problem with my Mac.
There is an odd folder in my hard disk which SWALLOWED everything I
tried to put into it. It's just that simple: Everytime drag an icon
(a file, a folder, an application or whatever) into it, everything looks
fine, the item is really moved into that folder and the icon DD appear
in the window of that folder. Somehow, when I decided to close that
folder and open it again, well, EVERYTHING DISAPPEARS. The finder just
tell me that there are 0 items occupying 0 Kbytes in my hard disk. But
when I tried to trash it, the finder told me that there are something in
that folder which is in use so I cannot trash it (I had tried the drag
command-option combination in trashing it, but I just can't Empty the
trash.). I tried to locate these files in that folder, both the Apple's
find file DA and the DiskTop DA from CE software failed in doing so.
Still, the Findswell by Working software is able to find these files.
But finding these files do me no good. I tried to delete that folder
with every utility availible, but to no avail. All of these utilities tell
me that there are something in that folder so I can't delete it, yet report
0 items with 0 Kbytes when I get info.
So I decide to write a simple program to figure out what happened. I
had used the PBDelete function, which gives me the id -47 fBzyErr. I called
PBGetCatInfo, and it returned with the value zero in the ioDrNmFls field of
the parameter block. Yet it seems that the catalog tree file did hold
something. However, hack into the catalog tree file seems dangerous and I
dare not to do so ( One mistake and my hard disk will be over.).
Is there anybody who have had similar experience before? Can I slove
this problem without hacking into the catalog tree file or formatting my hard
disk? The folder just adsorbs everything I put into it like a black hole!
My machine is Mac IIx with 4 Mb RAM/80 Mb internal hard disk.
Any help will be appreciated. Please send e-mails to the address
Q7503006@TWNTUCC1.bitnet. (Though I send this mail from D6506004, Q7503006
is MY account. However, I had problem sending mails from that account but
it's ok to receive mails). I will summerize to the digest if anybody is
intersted.
Thanks in advance.
Q7503006@TWNTUCC.bitnet
Michel J. Chu
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 90 09:37 EST
From: NUMUG@northeastern.edu
Subject: Building a CODE resource in Lightspeed Pascal - Problem
I have just started to mess around with the Apple's
Toolbox utilities - - quite impressive, although,
I have stumbled upon a little problem. I am using
Lightspeed pascal, and trying to creat a CODE
resource, to call some routeens. When I try to
create it, it prompts me with a "DA/Driver/Code
Resource must have an entry point MAIN." error.
I have tried to make the program a funtion,
called main, and then a Procedure named main,
but it keeps giving me the error. I am obviously
missing something.....
Anyone Know??
Brad Goodman
Northeasten University
Macintosh Users Group
Boston, Massachusets
numug@nuhub.northeastern.edu
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 90 11:24:39 PST
From: patrickf%popeye.nosc.mil@nosc.mil (Patrick Fondaneche)
Subject: DateBook stack and the Find command
I recently read the digests and heard about problems related to the
extension of the Datebook stack for the first semester of 1990. It was
impossible to switch back and forth between the Week 1 card and the Six Month
calendar. There were no problems with the following weeks. I decided to check
it out and after having extended my calendar, experienced the same difficulties.
After a short investigation, it appeared that the problem came from two
stack handlers,goWeekly and goSixMonthly. In both cases a FIND command
restricted to a background field was used and it did not work properly. All the
scripts were correct but the FIND command had an unusual behavior. I decided
to reproduce this problem in a simpler environment and created a new stack for
that. Here is its description.
1) The new stack has 2 backgrounds, B1 and B2.
2) Background B1 has a field, F1, and a button FindButton.
3) Background B2 has a field, F2.
4) 2 cards, C1 and C2, share background B1. B2 has only one card, C3.
5) The content of F1 is "Same" on C1 and "Different" on C2.
6) The content of F2 is "Same" on C3.
7) The mouseUp handler for FindButton reads : Find "Same" in field "F2"
If you click on FindButton, while on card C2 everything works as
expected. "Same" gets selected in the field F2 on card C3. But try to do it
>From card C1,and it won't work. Instead "Same" gets selected in the field F1
on the current card, C1.
This is exactly what happens with the DateBook stack. B1 corresponds
to background "Six Monthly" and B2 to background "Weekly" or vice versa. A
"Six Monthly" background field named "MySecs" holds the date (in seconds) that
corresponds to the beginning of the six-month period. A similar "Weekly"
background field named "WeekSecs" holds the date for the first day of the week.
When a six-month period starts on a Monday, both fields have the same
contents for the first week of the period and the FIND command does not work
properly. This is what happened with this year beginning on a Monday. An easy
way to go around this bug is to add a GO command that takes you to the first
card of the appropriate background just before executing the FIND command
in the goWeekly and goSixMonthly handlers.
P.S. : All these tests were run with HyperCard 1.2.2 and system 6.0.3.
Patrick Fondaneche.
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 90 21:51:08 +0100
From: Pottie Karl <GHGAQBA%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: disk-catalog
How can I get a full listing of EVERYTHING that's on a harddisk ?
I do not want to open every folder, and print it seperately.
If this is not possible with the finder, which program could do this
for me (e.g. the Tree display of MacTools 7.2 would be fine if there
was a way to print it) ?
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 90 14:07 EST
From: WATTS@urhep
Subject: Disk copy verification errors...
Hi y'all,
I have an SE/30 with one of the new high densify floppy drives. I have not,
however, used HD disks yet (as the 800 are cheaper per Kb right now).
Recently, I have noticed that I get an "Unknown disk error" when trying to copy
the contents of one disk to another (by draggin the source disk icon onto the
destination disk icon). It always happens during the verification pass on the
destination disk, and it always happens right at the start.
Everything works fine if I copy by selecting all the folders/files in the
source disk and move them to the destination disk.
Any ideas? Baring that, any ideas on how to determine the disk error?
Thanks,
Gordon.
BITNET: WATTS@UORHEP
INTERNET: gwatts@ruthep.rutgers.edu
USMAIL: Gordon Watts
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY
14627-0011
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 90 16:46 EST
From: The Blue Adept <KSBOLDUAN%AMHERST.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: GIF files, the Mac, and FTP Archive List
Hello all!
Before the new year, I posted a question about how to download .gif files to
the Mac. Well, the answer, as so many of you told me, is to make sure to set
the file type to BINARY before transferring the files. Gifs are stored in
binary format and if you don't do that then you lose the 8th bit and it
corrupts your file. Just type BINARY while logged on to an anonymous ftp site
will set the file correctly. I transfer the files first to my Vax and then to
my Mac. To do the latter transfer, I just use Kermit and make sure to set the
file to Binary (NOT MacBinary). Some of you asked where I had found certain gif
archives. Well, here is the latest list that I have. I usually go to
wuarchive.wustl.edu. They have an INCREDIBLY large selection.
Good luck to all you Giffers out there and THANKS again to EVERYONE!!! who
answered my query.
Kevin Bolduan '91 Amherst College
KSBOLDUAN@AMHERST Bitnet
===================================
a.cs.uiuc.edu 128.174.252.1 TeX, dvi2ps, gif, texx2.7, amiga,
dsl.cis.upenn.edu 130.91.6.12 GIF, IBM
hubcap.clemson.edu 130.127.8.1 GIF, RFCs
lut.fi 128.214.25.8 GIF, PD sources modified for hp-ux,
merlin.cs.purdue.edu 128.10.2.3 ConcurrenC, Xinu, mac, GIF
nyssa.cs.orst.edu 128.193.32.17 GIF, games, misc.
surya.waterloo.edu 129.97.129.72 GIF, tiff format, gif2ras
umn-cs.cs.umn.edu atari, apple II, GIF
uxc.cso.uiuc.edu the Internet, recipes, GIF
vmd.cso.uiuc.edu 128.174.5.98 Hurricane Hugo GIF pictures
wuarchive.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 GNU, X.11R3, GIF, IEN, RFCs, TeX,
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 90 03:34:59 CST
From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight, EMUK Felixstowe, 0394 275842)
Subject: Hard Disk Partitions?
A few months ago there were some exchanges via Info-Mac about hard
disk partitioning software. At that time, AlSoft MultiDisk software was
preferred over SUM.
Has anyone any views on the software in SUM II ? Has it been improved?
I would prefer a _Hard_ partition rather than a _Soft_ partition on
our new real-soon-now system, so I'll have to find something to do this by
the time the system arrives. I understood, from Press reviews, that SUM(I)
did Soft partitions. I have never seen explicit mention of _Hard_
partioning software. Any suggestions, anyone?
I'll post a summary in due course.
Thanks to all.
Francis K
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Francis H Knight | knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com
Schlumberger Industries |
Felixstowe, UK |
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 90 20:46:03 PST
From: dplatt@coherent.com
Subject: Hard drive interleaves
One response that I received suggested SilverLining Utilities
from LaCie might report this value, but I think you have to but
a LaCie hard drive to get the software.
I believe you can buy the SilverLining package separately. It's a very
flexible formatter/installer/driver/utility set... if you have a hard
disk with "generic" single-partition driver software, and would like to
spiff it up, SilverLining can probably do the job quite effectively.
In addition I discovered that no matter what type of Mac you
are using, HDSetup sets the interleave to 1.
This isn't true for the Miniscribe drive in my SE. However, I've noticed
that SilverLining has the same behavior when formatting a LaCie 42
drive on a Mac Plus... this is the same Quantum drive-mechanism that Apple
has been using for the last couple of years.
I believe that this behavior indicates that the Quantum drive contains
a track cache, capable of holding at least one full track's worth of
sectors. A drive of this sort _should_ be formatted with a 1:1 interleave,
no matter how fast or how slow the machine to which it's attached. The
cache has the same benefit as a higher interleave on a slower machine...
it prevents data overruns from causing "missed sector" conditions.
Now I am really confused. My understanding of interleaves was
tha a Mac Plus needed an interleave of 3:, and SE uses 2:1 and
a Mac II uses 1:1 to realize optimum drive performance.
These numbers are appropriate for medium-performance drives. They are
_not_ absolute numbers, writ in stone. The faster the drive, the higher
the interleave number needs to be when the drive is used with a slow
machine.
I also have a MicroNet drive and its software wants to set the
Plus to 6:1, the SE to 3:1 and the Mac II to 1:1!
That's probably a fast drive... say, a Wren or something in that class.
These drives can read and transfer data _very_ quickly. The figures you
report can be interpreted as "A Mac II can keep up with this drive. The
drive can read and transfer data between two and three times as quickly
as a Mac SE can accept it, and between five and six times faster than a
Plus can accept it." Or something along those lines.
Does anyone know what the interleave really should set to? Please
respond to me and I will summerize for the net. Thanks.
As high as necessary, and no higher >grin<. Seriously... it depends on
the speed of the drive, the speed of the Mac in use, and whether the
drive has a cache.
You can probably trust the installer software that you received with the
drive.
Dave Platt VOICE: (415) 493-8805
UUCP: ...!{ames,apple,uunet}!coherent!dplatt DOMAIN: dplatt@coherent.com
INTERNET: coherent!dplatt@ames.arpa, ...@uunet.uu.net
USNAIL: Coherent Thought Inc. 3350 West Bayshore #205 Palo Alto CA 94303
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 90 11:30 EST
From: Michael D Yablonsky Dept of Molecular Karma at the Waksman Institute
Subject: HP Laserjet II query
I presume that sooner or later we will have to interface with the
IBM users of the world on a more direct basis than common mainframe
usage. Unfortunately I have to try to do this now. Ideally I'd like
to drag my Mac into their office and be productive in their environment.
To this end I would like to use their toys, printers, slide makers etc..
So to start with, are there any drivers which I can use to print
Word 4.0 and pict files from my SE/30 on an HP laserjet II?? Anything PD,
Share etc?? How about cables???
If I get enough responses I'll summarize to the net
Thanks very much
Mike
Yablonsky@biovax.rutgers.edu
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 90 18:41:57 PST
From: sun!wrs!yuba!steve@decwrl.dec.com (Steve Sekiguchi)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #3
I've got a rather difficult problem here. We've got a Gator Box running the
NFS/AFP conversion. We use this to hook up Macs and Suns. With the Sun
as a AppleShare File server. All of this works great!
Now here is the problem, Macs are allowed to create files on the Sun/Unix
fileserver with a "/" in the filename. This is great until you try and
restore one of these files from your "dump" tapes. "restore" core dumps
when it runs into a file with a "/" in the filename. As far as I can tell
the "dump" tape is fine.
Does anyone have a suggestion for getting the files off the backup tape?
Thanks in Advance,
Steven Sekiguchi Wind River Systems
sun!wrs!steve, steve@wrs.com 1351 Ocean Avenue
(415) 428-2623 Emeryville CA, 94608
"This shows how much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." -Disraeli
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 90 16:53 EDT
From: "Paul Carnahan, Brandeis University" <CARNAHAN%brandeis.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Keyboard equivalents in HyperCard
I have a HyperCard scripting question:
How do I script a keyboard equivalent so that someone can get the same result
as pressing three keys simultaneously? Specifically, I want a user on a
keyboard-less information kiosk to be able to invoke the "Close View" utility
by clicking on a button on the screen. The key sequence is option-command-o.
I know how to "send tabKey," but how do I send three keys?
Thanks for your help. If you send responses to me directly I will send the
definative answer to Info-Mac.
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 90 10:14:23 SST
From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: MPW C inline and Think C
I have the following declaration in MPW C:
pascal void RestoreDeviceClut (GDHandle gdh) = { 0x7002, 0xAAA2 };
Please, can anyone tell me how to translate this into Think C?
MPW C also define a const prototype. Is it all right to leave it
out in Think C?
In general, what must I know to convert a program in MPW C to Think C?
Please, help me, anyone. This is an immergency worst more urgent than
childbirth.
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 89 08:27:52 PST
From: map@risc.com (Michael A. Perry)
Subject: Music-Organiser.hqx
This is a program I wrote in order to keep track of all the tapes
& CDs I've accumulated over the years. Like most people with a lot of
music like this, I can never find anything I'm looking for. This program
was meant to be a solution to this problem.
The program supports CDs, Tapes, and to some extent, records.
It does not support printing yet, but you can output your archive in
TEXT format, so you can print with your favourite word processor.
Music Organiser is shareware: $5.00
Mike Perry.
/********************************************************************/
/* 6600map@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu * Disclaimer: */
/* 6600map@ucsbuxa.bitnet * Half the time, I don't even */
/* map@risc.com * know what I'm talking about. */
/********************************************************************/
[Archived as /info-mac/app/music-organizer.hqx; 43K]
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 89 20:31 EDT
From: PV9Y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: Penguin Utilities stack
Penguin Utilities is a HyperCard stack which gives you the ability to work on
groups of objects, rather than on one object as a time, as HyperCard forces
you to do now. There are 15 functions which can be applied to any number of
the objects present on the current card. They include align, delete, edit
script, export script, export text, get info, hide, import text, change names
renumber, select, show, move to background, move to card, change text
attributes, lock text, unlock text, and possible one or two which I'm forgettingThe renumber and text attributes can be especially useful, I've found.
Adam Engst
[Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/penguin-utilities.hqx; 120K]
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 89 22:39:01 PST
From: 6500stom%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu
Subject: sicn ldef
sicn ldef.c v1.0
Copyright 1989 Josh Pritikin
All rights reserved.
This LDEF may be used freely in any programming project, no string attached.
This LDEF will let you display text as with a normal LDEF except you can
also attach SICN's to each item. I wrote this to emulate the one in SFDialog.
Source included.
fast ->
internet: 6500stom@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
AppleLink: 6500stom%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu@DASNET#
CIS: 70771,2131@(internet gateway...)
slow ->
GEnie: J.Pritikin
AppleLink: Josh.P
very slow ->
CIS: 70771,2131
[Archived as /info-mac/tech/sicn-ldef.hqx; 11K]
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 90 16:36:36 est
From: whg@csmunix.larc.nasa.gov (William H. Greene)
Subject: Source code for sample Mac editor
I apologize if this has been dealt with before or if there is an obvious
answer. I'm looking for the C source to a Mac editor that can handle multiple
large (> than 32K) files. I know about Mini Edit, of course, but it doesn't
satisfy this requirement. If you can help me out, please email me the
information since I'm not a regular subscriber. Thanks for the help.
Bill Greene
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Date: 8 Jan 90 11:22:00 MST
From: "5268 Spires, Shannon V." <svspire@sandia.gov>
Subject: Torx T-15 Screwdrivers
Snap-on Tools sells the one I bought. The part number is
SSTX1015, and it sold for $12.70 in 1986. It is very good quality
and well worth the price. It has a 10" blade so it's plenty long
enough to open a Mac (they also have a 16" model if you need it).
Snap-on doesn't sell in stores; they are sold out of independent
dealers who keep their stock on trucks. You can usually reach one
in your area by looking in the phone book and making an appointment.
Alternatively, you can just go to your favorite car repair shop and
ask the mechanic when the Snap-on dealer comes by, and be there when
he comes.
Shannon Spires
svspire@sandia.gov
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1990 11:40:09 EDT
From: FAC0395%UOFT01.BITNET@jade.berkeley.edu (J. Feustle)
Subject: Ventura on AppleTalk via a PC-Talk Card
I am looking for a utility similar to the one that comes with Page
Maker that permits direct printing from a PC to an Apple Laserwriter
via a PC-Talk Card and AppleTalk. Is there such a beast that will
do the same for Ventura?
Thanks
Joe Feustle
FAC0395@UOFT01.BITNET
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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 90 13:07:03 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Word4 scrambles Superclock
Presumably the problem is with Word4 since Superclock (1.8) works fine with
everything else. Is there a fix?
Also, can someone post version 2 (or later) of Lockout? The archives only
have an early version.
Thanks,
Graeme Forbes
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