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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 18 Jan 90 Volume 8 : Issue 11
Today's Topics:
3D graph source
Bad Floppy Drive? (help!)
Cricket Graph & 2ci
Cyrillic Fonts ?
DA to read TEXT, MacWrite, MSWord?
DeskPaint DA
Extra Color
Filemaker Plus
flight simulator source
FoxBase+ 2.0
GENEALOGY STACKS
HD-boot-only software
HyperCard on a Network
Mac/PC/Unix Connection / Serial Postscript Printer Driver
Questions . . .
Reading multiple files with Excel
SAM/SUM and Priam?
SE/30 disk drives
SHOWCASE FX
Smalltalk acyclic graph code
speed tests: amazing results
uupc help needed
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 90 16:57:51 PST
From: light@ux1.lbl.gov (Francis Rubinstein)
Subject: 3D graph source
This is a slighlty updated verison of the C source for a 3D
graphing program I posted in November. All include files are
now present, as are executable versions of the program. The
program itself is unchanged.
There is in fact a limit to data file size, as some have
discovered: the line length in a data file must be less than 256
characters. Eventually I may fix this. If someone else does
first, please send me a copy of the change.
The project file included is for ThinkC vers. 4.0, but the
source can be used under 3.0 without change.
Chris Moll
chris@hobbes.lbl.gov
(415)843-2437
[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/three-d-graphics-part1.hqx; 150K
/info-mac/source/c/three-d-graphics-part2.hqx; 146K]
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 90 21:19:08 -0600
From: dnewman@emx.utexas.edu (David Newman)
Subject: Bad Floppy Drive? (help!)
Help!
The Sequence: 1) Insert Floppy. 2) See Dialog indicating the floppy is
unreadable. 3) Cancel 4) Start MacTools. 5) Insert purportedly bad floppy.
6) Floppy comes up, but is listed as locked, even though the tab is in the
unprotected position. 7) Quit MacTools 8) Observe that the floppy comes up
OK in the finder now, but is still listed as locked.
What Gives? This has happened to me several times now. Is my floppy drive
going south on me? Any advice on how I can recover these disks? I can copy
the data off them after the above procedure, but I'd really like to know
what is going on.
Thanks for any information,
>>Dave
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 90 16:39:39 EST
From: Timothy Miller <TSM%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Cricket Graph & 2ci
A number of people in the neurology department at Brown have discovered that
Cricket Graph crashes on the Mac 2ci, but when they tried calling the tech
support number and the number for the company that bought Cricket Software,
they were unable to find someone who could help them. I tried searching through
back issues of info-mac and found a posting complaining about the problem but
no solutions. So I traced through Cricket Graph with MacsBug, and discovered
that the problem seems to be that Cricket Graph is reading a hard-coded address
in ROM based on ROM being at $400000 (which it isn't on recent macs) instead of
using ROMBase! Arrgh! Anyway, I discovered that a simple 10 byte patch appears
to fix the problem, and I've posted it in case anyone else is interested.
Using ResEdit on a copy of Cricket Graph version 1.3.1, at offset $0754 into
CODE resource 9, you should find the bytes 3039 0040 0008 0C40 81FF. Replace
these with 2048 02AE 0C68 81FF 0008, save, and it should work again.
Tim
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Date: 17 Jan 90 03:13:33 GMT
From: scb1@tank.uchicago.edu (Sam Blackman)
Subject: Cyrillic Fonts ?
Does anybody know where I can find (via FTP preferably) cyrillic fonts ?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Sam
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University of Chicago ! Disclaimer : Who cares what I say? I'm a student !
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 06:58:21 PST
From: claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: DA to read TEXT, MacWrite, MSWord?
In comp.sys.mac.digest Huangxin Wang writes:
>Does anyone know of a DA which can read text, MacWrite as well as MSWord
>format files (Somewhat like an MSWord level DA). miniWriter can only read
>text. There another DA which can read MacWrite. I am writing a DA which
>displays the text part of ALL files, including MSWord file. But MSWord
>format and some MacWrite format characters are displayed as some junk
>characters.
Vantage, the commercial version of McSink, reads MacWrite and MS Word files.
I believe that it also has a filter to read WriteNow files, but I haven't
installed that one. The current version is 1.5 and is available from
Preferred Publishers.
--
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
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Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 13:55:33 EST
From: "Gregory E. Gilbert" <C0195%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@rice.edu>
Subject: DeskPaint DA
Would someone be so kind as to post information about this DA? (Or you can
direct e-mail me.) Is it freeware, shareware? Where can I get it? Is it
reliable? Is it worth the price? Thanks much!!
Greg
Postal address: Gregory E. Gilbert
Computer Services Division
University of South Carolina
Columbia, South Carolina USA 29208
(803) 777-6015
Acknowledge-To: <C0195@UNIVSCVM>
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 90 19:07:38 EST
From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Willie Perez)
Subject: Extra Color
This is a control panel device that lets you pick a color for the cursor
and a solid color for the background. Downloaded from GEnie for your
pleasure. --Willi
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/extra-color.hqx; 16K]
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 90 19:51:41 EST
From: Kim Dyer <21329KAD%MSU.BITNET@rice.edu>
Subject: Filemaker Plus
Using Filemaker Plus at work, I moved the application icon on to the
desktop for a moment to organize the folder. Now I can't move it back
on! It says "Application can not be duplicated or moved". It sure moved
OFF ok. It still shows up if I reboot ... just on the desktop. I checked
under "get info" and it isn't locked.
How can I move the application back where it belongs? How did it move
off it it "Can not be duplicated or moved"?
HELP!!!!
Kim Dyer - Michigan State University - 21329kad @ MSU
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 90 17:05:04 PST
From: light@ux1.lbl.gov (Francis Rubinstein)
Subject: flight simulator source
This is a slighlty updated verison of the C source for a 3D
flight simulator program I posted in November. All include files
are now present, as is an executable version of the program. The
program itself is unchanged.
The project file included is for ThinkC vers. 4.0, but the
source can be used under 3.0 without change.
This is intended to provide an example of how to do 3D
perspective and clipping, but I don't make any claims for the
readabilty of the code. Most of the math is fixed point.
Chris Moll
chris@hobbes.lbl.gov
(415)843-2437
[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/flight-simulator.hqx; 41K]
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 11:36:10 EST
From: "Judith T. Frawley" <JFRAWLEY%SUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: FoxBase+ 2.0
My original query was Why can't I get Set Fields to work?
The reason is (according to Fox) that in this release of
the software the command button BROWSE in the View window
has been set to BROWSE LAST. That means I can't see my
active fields. By typing Browse in the command window
or choosing Browse from the database menu, Active Fields
show.
Thanks for all who responded. It only took Fox 3+ days to
return my calls despite my insistence!
Judy Frawley
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 08:57:00 EST
From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: GENEALOGY STACKS
>From: Adam Galper <galper@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
> I could've sworn I saw a genealogy stack several years ago that
> displayed family trees (graphically) and stored all sorts of
> information about each family member. The genealogy stack in the
> info-mac archives (by N. Spies, 1988) is not the one.
>
> Does anyone know of any other genealogy stacks (PD, shareware, or
> commercial)? I'm not sure where to look.
There's HyperTree, a PD/shareware stack available from Budgetbytes. I
don't have the address with me right now--send me mail if you need it, or
maybe someone else out there has it handy. HyperTree comes on an 800K disk
with a number of other stacks for less than $10 (not counting any
applicable shareware fees, if requested).
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Date: 16 Jan 90 16:24 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: HD-boot-only software
Date: 16 January 1990, 16:21:11 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To: INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: HD-boot-only software
I thought I'd seen something like this mentioned before, but I can't find it
going through my old printouts of the Digest.
Can anybody point me to a shareware or commercial product which would work
somehow to prevent booting up a Mac II/et al. machine from anything but its
own floppy disk? I assume this would have to have a password component so
that when the disk was damaged, etc., you could still start from a floppy...
..but not from a system disk just any old student brought into the lab.
Thanks for any info,
Ted Morris
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 08:43:52 MDT
From: "Bruce A. Carter" <DUSCARTE@idbsu.idbsu.edu>
Subject: HyperCard on a Network
The recommendation I have been given in the past from folks at Apple is
to run individual copies of both the HyperCard application and the Home
stack, and run common stacks on the server. I believe that HyperCard will
multilaunch, but only one person may have write access to a stack at a
time. This means that the stack that you want several people to use must
be locked, and chances are that the Home stack should be locked as well.
Our configuration is several folders (one for each station in the lab) each
with HyperCard and Home in them. I don't know if this is the best
configuration, but it seems to work for us.
Bruce A. Carter, Courseware Development Coordinator = Boise State University
"It is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer"= 1910 University Drive
======================================================== Boise, ID 83725
InterNet/Domain: duscarte@idbsu.idbsu.edu = Office: (208) 385-1250
CREN (BITNet): duscarte@idbsu [] CompuServe: 76666,511 = Lab: (208) 385-1859
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 16:12:18 BST
From: L.Chung%ee.surrey.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
Subject: Mac/PC/Unix Connection / Serial Postscript Printer Driver
We are new to the world of Macintosh.
Our setup consist of a SE and a SE/30, 6-8 PCs, a SUN 3/60, plus a
Postscript Laser printer (QMS), located in 5 different rooms and two
levels of the building. We wish to connect all these so that all machines can
print to the laser printer, allow some file transfer between PC and Mac,
and allow connection to UNIX port from PC and Mac.
Cabling is a tricky problem. Worse is our limited budget. This means
we can't go all out for an TOPS/ethernet type solution. We choose to go down
the serial printer buffer route, as it is the cheapest and RS232 is supported
by all computing equipment. The buffer is one of those smart n-to-n type which
can support various interface and do buffering and interface conversion. This
means we can drive our printer with a parallel interface to achieve higher
throughput. We got Laplink Mac for file transfer between PC and Mac, and it
work perfectly.
All is fine, until we get round to do printing from the Mac. It just
doesn't want to know the printer! We check the serial cable, in fact we use
the one supplied by Laplink. We connected the printer directly to the Mac and
go as far as talking to it using kermit, with the printer set to Interactive
Mode. So the connection should be correct. But as soon as we choose to print
>From the Mac the OS (6.0.4) just report there is no printer.
Our conclusion is that the LaserWriter Device Driver supplied are
only for SCSI and Appletalk ONLY and will not work on serial connection
even you got the right cable.
Does anybody know of a SERIAL POSTSCRIPT PRINTER DRIVER for the
Mac (PD or Commercial) available somewhere ? We seen driver available for
Epson etc dot matrix printer, and even one for HP LaserJet, but not a PS one.
Any other comment on the subject of connecting Mac/PC/UNIX will be
gratefully received.
Many Thanks.
L.N. Chung (chung@ee.surrey.ac.uk)
Dept. of Electrical & Electronic Eng.
University of Surrey,
U.K.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 90 20:49:25 -0600
From: st16@uga.bitnet
Subject: Questions . . .
Yo BitnetLand! I have a few questions that I would like to pose to anyone who
can and would care to answer them:
1) Does anybody have or know where I can get a DA called SetPaths DA? It will
allow you to tell the system where to look for up to five files (laser font
files for instance) on a network. Educomp has it in their software collection,
but paying $8 a disk for PD and shareware stuff seems wrong to me for some
reason. Besides, its the only thing on the disk that I want.
2) Are there any shareware or public-domain software authors out there that
would like to write a CDEV/INIT that has tons o' potential. I have this really
cool neato idea for a utility that would be very, very, very useful on a
network. I would program it myself, but I'm not that far along in my
endeavors. Plus I would rather not wait that long. I really don't care about
much credit for the idea, it may not even be an original idea, but I haven't
seen anything close to it anywhere. Reply to me for more information.
3) Finally, does anyone know of a gateway to UseNet from Bitnet? I read some
information on UseNet recently and would like to get into it. If anyone has
any iformation, I would be mucho appreciative. And what about that gateway to
AppleLink? I sent a couple of pieces of mail to my account and some other
accounts, but nothing got through. I followed all the instructions that are in
the archives, but nothing came in.
Please reply to me directly and I'll post a summary later.
Thanks in advance.
Howard Fore
Apple Student Representative, University of Georgia
Consultant, Main Library Macintosh Lab
University Computing and Network Services
University of Georgia, Athens
Bitnet st16@uga
applelink st0233
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 09:12:34 CST
From: Scott Green <$SCOTTG%JSUMUS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Reading multiple files with Excel
I'm using Excel on a Macintosh, and I need to read multiple text
files from the desktop (the files contain data I want to put into a
single worksheet). I suppose I will have to write a macro to do this,
but how do you write a macro to process multiple files? I want to be
able to do this from the desktop, without having to go into Excel.
Thanks.
Scott Green, Support Specialist
Academic Computer Services
Jacksonville State University
Jacksonville, Alabama USA
$SCOTTG@JSUMUS.BITNET
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 07:54 EDT
From: Thomson Kuhn <KUHN@wharton.upenn.edu>
Subject: SAM/SUM and Priam?
Someone here heard a rumor of an incopmatibility between the SAM and SUM
utilities and Priam hard dirves. Does anyone have any info?
Thomson Kuhn
KUHN@WHARTON.UPENN.EDU
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 11:45:11 CST
From: "James N. Bradley" <ACSH%UHUPVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: SE/30 disk drives
I'm beginning to look at replacing the old Plus (purchased in 1984 as a
128K- "512K! I'll never need that much RAM!")
I'm toying with three possibilities. Buying a MacII box ($2400) and adding
on a Cache Card and PMMU. Buying a IIx and paying through the nose or
buying an SE/30 (cheapest option due to monitor prices).
The vendors I've spoken to have been generally unimpressive (six slots? why
would you want six slots? or Why don't you want an internal hard disk?)
and have generally answered my questions with "that's not a real good idea,
this is a much better value."
Anyway, due to this, I don't really believe them when they say you can't
put two floppys in an SE/30? Anybody know for sure?
Jim Bradley
Acknowledge-To: <ACSH@UHUPVM1>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 09:15:46 SST
From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@rice.edu>
Subject: SHOWCASE FX
Hello folks,
I have just received Showcase FX in my mailbox. It must have been created
before 1989 because there seems to be no news of updated copies since the
last review in MacUser.
Anyway, the darn thing refuse to recognize anything but the good old Mac II.
Nope, not the IIx, nor the IIcx, nor the IIci. Wonder what these guys used
to check for system environments!!!
Anyone know of any patches for this program? Is Aegis listening to this?
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 90 14:56:20 GMT
From: "G. Nigel Gilbert" <gng%soc.surrey.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>
Subject: Smalltalk acyclic graph code
This posting consists of a BinHexed, Stuffit'ed set of
Smalltalk/V classes and methods to display and manipulate a
directed acyclic graph i.e. a network of nodes and links. Nodes
may be created, annotated, moved, shaped and deleted from a
window and links added to connect nodes. All thse operations are
performed graphically. Networks may be filed and retrieved.
The code may be used as part of an implementation of,
for example, a browser to display a 'tree'; a project management
(CPM or PERT) network; a computer aided system analysis (CASE)
chart and so on. As usual with Smalltalk, all the source is
provided in this file.
The code has been developed using Digitalk's Smalltalk/V for the
Apple Macintosh, version 1.1. It will probably work with little
modification with PC versions of Smalltalk/V. It will NOT work
without extensive modification with other dialects of Smalltalk
(e.g. Apple Smalltalk-80 and ParkPlace Smalltalk-80).
The code is not in public domain, but it is freely available for
non-commercial use. Contact me if you want to include it in
commercial or shareware products. I would be delighted to receive
an electronic mail message or postcard if you find this code
interesting or useful.
Write to:
Nigel Gilbert, Social and Computer Sciences Research Group,
University of Surrey, Guildford GU2 5XH, United Kingdom.
Internet: gng@soc.surrey.ac.uk
[Archived as /info-mac/source/smalltalk-acyclic-graph.hqx; 28K]
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 17:29:35 +0100
From: HFPENAE%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: speed tests: amazing results
I thought it would be a nice thing to compare the speed of a Mac+ to
that of the Mac emulator on amiga (amax).
I used 2 macs (one 512K mac upgraded to Mac+ by Apple = mac#1, and a re al
mac+ = mac#2 ).
I used Speedo to compare the speeds to those of an SE ( = 1.00)
criterium Mac#1 Mac#2 Amax differences
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CPU 0.87 0.87 1.26 44%
Math 0.88 1.02 1.27 43% 24%
Kwheatstones/sec 6492 7401 9151 40% 23%
Dhrystones/sec 722 772 1216 68% 57%
Sieve(time) 6.350 6.350 3.933
savage(time) 439 383 311 41% 23%
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These results are not quite what I had expected !!! Amax seemed to be
a lot faster than the real thing. So i tried to time some real
programs in action: same result, amax about 25%-40% faster than a
real mac.
Consider these facts:
*The amiga has an 68000 which runs at about 7.2 Mhz, the mac
has an 68000 on about 7.8 Mhz
*The mac refreches it's screen 60 times a second, slowing down
the computer by 15%. The amiga is not slowed down by it's screen.
* amax uses the actual mac+ roms , slightly patched to run on the different
hardware of the Amiga. It runs the unchanged version of system 6.0.3
So there should be no meaningfull software difference.
The first two (*) should rule each other out. So why the big speed
difference? (even faster than an SE!!!)
Anybody any clues ???
And why the difference between the upgraded mac+ and the original Mac+ ??
The amiga costs about a quarter of a Mac+, and yet performs better.
I think that's outrageous !!!!
I'd like to see some reactions in info-mac .....
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Date: Tue, 16 Jan 90 21:17:39 EST
From: rlm%dawn.hampshire.edu@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: uupc help needed
I'm struggling to get uupc installed and up on my mac, and I'd love to
know who's got it running already ... in particular, the format for the
"systems" file (equivalent to L.sys in unix-land, I gather) seems
documented only by some rather cryptic examples, none of which seem to
match my situation.
Is there an Internet or BITNET list on which this software is
discussed?
Richard Muller
Hampshire College Amherst MA USA 01002
rmuller@hampvms.bitnet
rmuller%hampvms.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
rlm@dawn.hampshire.edu
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