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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 24 Jan 90 Volume 8 : Issue 14
Today's Topics:
32-bit irregularity
8 character limit to passwords in Appleshare
Accumulating clipboard
Alien Monitors for the Mac
Disk Cataloging Software
DISK EXPRESS II (2 msgs)
Hard disk interleave again
How do I implement .... in Think C
Info-Mac Digest V8 #11 (2 msgs)
Large form output devices.
LaserWriter II memory
LaserWriter via EtherNet
Max+ vs. Amax
Need help with Appletalk
Pantone color
Password protection
RE Cricket Graph & 2ci
Serial Laserwriter Driver
Spanish spelling checkers
SuperClock 3.8 in BinHex form
Vantage (was DA to read TEXT, MacWrite, MSWord?)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 18:06 EST
From: LXC0300%RITVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: 32-bit irregularity
I have run into a problem that so far seems to be related with 32 Bit Quick
Draw. In Color Quick Draw, a change in the graphic device's depth using the
control panel CDEF monitor will result in update events generated for each
window with the update region being the entire window. However after
installing 32 Bit QuickDraw, this is no longer the case. Instead the update
region consists of only newly exposed regions. As a result, windows with
non-system color palettes will not be updated correctly. Currently, I don't
have any documentation on 32 Bit QuickDraw, so I don't know if I have to do
any thing special to be compatible with 32 Bit QuickDraw.
If any one has any solution or suggestion to this problem please send mail
directly to the following Bitnet address. Thank you.
BITNET : LXC0300@RITVAXC
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Date: 19 Jan 90 13:06:00 EDT
From: "MICHAEL R. ROMAN" <mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu>
Subject: 8 character limit to passwords in Appleshare
I'm using PacerShare on a VAX, and Apple's AppleShare software on my MAC's.
Some of my users have passwords on the VAX of more than 8 characters; when they
try to log on to the VAX from a Mac to mount an AppleShare volume, they can't.
As soon as they type the ninth character, the AppleShare driver bounces them
out. I talked to someone in Apple, who said that wasn't likely to change soon.
Does anyone know how I can patch the driver so that I can use longer passwords?
Mike Roman
mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 17:43 ADT
From: Stan Armstrong <ARMSTRONG%HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Accumulating clipboard
Several text processing and word processing programs include an accumulating
clipboard. Does anyone know of a general purpose accumulating clipboard
that could be used with any text handling program?
Stan Armstrong.
Religious Studies Dept
Saint Mary's University
Halifax, N.S.,CANADA, B3H 3C3
(902)420-5866
USENET: att!clyde!watmath!water!dalcs!armstrng
BITNET:ARMSTRONG@STMARYS.BITNET
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Date: Wed, 17 Jan 90 21:57:22 CST
From: GR4486%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jack Logan)
Subject: Alien Monitors for the Mac
Hi All!
Excuse me for my ignorance if this is a stupid question -
Can anybody spare a few words to tell me something about monitors? I
have been feeling quite confusing that the Mac monitors in the market
are generally very expensive. By a change I stopped by a local store
that deals peripherals for the IBM world and the merchandises are
relatively less expensive. I liked a high resolution flat-screen
monitor - 14 inch diameter, light weighted, slim design with quite
attractive coating color. The cost was under $160. I was told that the
resolution was that of comparable with the Mac monitors. However, the
salesman was not prepared to answer my question because he never touched
a Mac ( :=)).
Question: If I go ahead and purchase a board such as "Multiscreen",
which is inexpensive and supports variety of monitors, will I be able to
use such an attractive flat-screen monitor?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Jack <GR4486@SIUCVMB.BITNET>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 11:03:14 PST
From: anamaria@violet.berkeley.edu (Peter Rauch)
Subject: Disk Cataloging Software
Use FILELIST by Erny Tontlinger. You can get it from the BMUG bulletin board.
It is very easy to use and quick, providing most of the info you need when
cataloging volumes/files.
FILELIST 1.2 lists filename, size, type, creator, date-created, date-modified,
volume, and path, and the list can be sorted by any one of these variables.
You can save the list in FILELIST or text (space- or tab-separated fields)
formats. In the text format you can then process the list with other
applications such as word processers or database tools.
It'll run through your diskettes as fast as you can insert them into
the drive (does hard disks also).
Drawbacks? One that can be bothersome, but not insurmountable, is that you
can't catalog two or more volumes by the same name in the same list (so,
change the volume name, or catalog that volume to a separate list).
FILELIST is found on BMUG's bb as:
FILELIST1.2 20352 Freeware file and disk lister (02-24-89)
The source code can be found on CompuServe in the file FILIS.SIT in LIB 4
of the MACDEV forum, according to the author. I think it is written in Think C.
They're FREE. (How about someone posting these files to INFO-MAC???)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 09:38 AST
From: Peter J Gergely <Peter@griffin.drea.dnd.ca>
Subject: DISK EXPRESS II
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 90 21:54 CDT
From: HANKBART@ducvax.auburn.edu
GF> I've just received DiskExpress II, release 2.03, from Alsoft. But
GF> in MacWeek (Jan 9) Mac the Knife reports people losing hard disks
GF> to it. Does anyone have any experience with this upgrade? (I use a
GF> 4/80 IIcx.)
I received my copy of DE v2.03 and crashed around with it for awhile. I
started having problems with it while downloading files from our local bbs.
Everytime the file would finish I would get a bomb. Everytime, even when I
turned it off. I have since removed it from my folder and still use DE
v1.5. It is disappointing when a comapny can hype something so much and
then let it fail so bad. Maybe next time.
Mike Taylor
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Was your telecommunications program White Knight 11.02. There exists a
compatibility problem with that and DE II v 2.03. Either WK 11.04 or
DE II v2.04 will solve the problem. The problem turned out to be one
where WK was interpreting a system call one way, and DE had trapped it
and interpreted another.
I have also noted a compatibility problem with SUM II recover routines
while DE is on and under Multifinder. That problem has been reported to
Alsoft who are tracking it. The problem disappears if you do not run
Multifinder.
- Peter
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Date: 19 Jan 90 13:19:56
From: Pete Roberts <Pete_Roberts@qmlink.draper.com>
Subject: Disk Express II
Subject: Time: 12:58 PM
OFFICE MEMO Disk Express II Date: 1/19/90
DiskExpress II seems to be getting some bad publicity lately, apparently
concerning v2.03. I received my copy direct from AlSoft as an update, and the
revision they sent to me was v2.01, with which I have had no trouble in fairly
complicated environments.
I operate v2.01 on a '020-accelerated SE and a vanilla Mac-II, both under
system 6.0.2, and with a fist-full of other INITs. The SE is part of a MIDI
music system and has a hard-disk formatted with 6 SCSI partitions. The II has
two hard-disks and is used for program development.
I have only experienced two problems with DiskExpress II. (1)At
installation-time the cdev crashed when I tried to use it without having
rebooted to load the INIT. (2)In the context of a fist-full of INITs on my
Mac-II, I had to load SoundMaster after DiskExpress, but the problem has
something to do with the total configuration, because DiskExpress and
SoundMaster alone are load-sequence independent.
For the last few weeks DiskExpress has run error free and is doing a good job
of optimizations. I can hear the background optimization going on even while
my SE is playing several synthesizers. My music notation application does not
affect it. Being interrupted by SUM's Shield INIT doesn't seem to bother it.
My word processor, page layout, graphics and MPW tools do not affect it. My
track-map is clean and unfragmented, and its ability to prioritize files on the
basis of usage is causing my launchings to noticably speed up for my frequently
used files.
Pete Roberts
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 15:11:34 EST
From: Mike_Alexander@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Hard disk interleave again
After the recent discussion on Info-Mac concerning interleave
factors for hard disks, I was surprised to discover that HDSetup
wanted to format the Apple internal 80 meg drive on my new IIci with
an interleave factor of 2. It seemed to be the consensus that a Mac
II should be able to handle an interleave of 1 for most ordinary
drives, so I was surprised that a IIci couldn't (or at least that
HDSetup thought it couldn't). I let it do what it wanted, but I
wonder if an interleave of 2 is really right for that combination.
Does anyone have any further information on this?
Mike Alexander
University of Michigan
Mike_Alexander@um.cc.umich.edu
(313) 763-4890
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 16:10:33 +0100
From: vanni%imicefr.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu (Giovanni Aliberti)
Subject: How do I implement .... in Think C
Hi,
We wanted to implement, in Think C, a Dialog that behaves like
Font/DA Mover.
i.e. 2 scroll-bar lists of strings and then have some buttons that
will transfer strings from one list to the other.
How do we implement a "list" in a Dialog ??
Does anyone has a piece of code in C or Pascal like that
shows how to do this ??
thanks in advance !!
-vanni vanni@allegro.mit.edu
(Please mail directly to me ...)
(Do not use reply, since it might not work)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 09:53:31 EST
From: Bob Kaynor <BKAYNOR%MITVMA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #11
>Multiple floppy drives in SE/30
The drive itself will fit, but there is only _one_ connector, unlike
the original SE which had two on the motherboard. And the contacts for
the external drive port are not friendly to tampering, either. Sorry.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 12:59:27 -0500
From: William C. DenBesten<denbeste@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #11
> Anyway, due to this, I don't really believe them when they say you can't
> put two floppys in an SE/30? Anybody know for sure?
I own a SE/30. There are two problems. The first is that there is only
one hole in the case to stick disks into.
Secondly, there is only 1 drive connector on the motherboard. The SE had
two connectors.
--
William C. DenBesten is denbeste@bgsu.edu or denbesten@bgsuopie.bitnet
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 09:06 EST
From: CHGARNETT%AMHERST.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Large form output devices.
Hello, all.
Does anyone have/have any information about large scale output devices for
Macs? We're looking at setting up the Theatre folks here with computers,
but they will need something that can print out stage designs on a single
sheet (no taping LW pages together, or anything like that). Max size is
something in the neighborhood of 2x3 feet. The only thing I can think of
that might fit the bill is a plotter, but I've never seen one that has a
Mac driver.
And another thing...any advise about large screen B/W monitors for SE/30's?
Thanks!
Craig Garnett CHGARNET@AMHERST (BITNET)
Microcomputer Specialist (Hah!)
Amherst College
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 15:05:54 EST
From: Dave Elbon <SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter II memory
How much RAM do the LaserWriter II NT and NTX have? Do they both accept
additional SIMMs? How many SIMM slots do they have? Will they use
256K SIMMs?
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 16:14:36 EST
From: Kevin <crowston@athena.mit.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter via EtherNet
Opps! In my previous posting, I belive I may have overstated the
capabilities of CAP on a UNIX box. I thought that CAP put out
AppleTalk packets directly; in fact, it puts out AppleTalk-in-IP
packets. This is an important difference, because it means you still
need a GatorBox (or some other router) to translate the
AppleTalk-in-IP packets to AppleTalk for the Macs. Disconnecting
the GatorBox makes the CAP printer inaccessible. Therefore, the cost
of the two options is really about the same...
Kevin Crowston
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 9:42:50 EST
From: "Hugh A. Huntzinger" (CCL-S) <huntzing@pica.army.mil>
Subject: Max+ vs. Amax
HFPENAE%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu writes:
>The amiga costs about a quarter of a Mac+, and yet performs better.
>I think that's outrageous !!!!
>
>I'd like to see some reactions in info-mac .....
A Mac/compatible that finally has a reasonable price/performance ratio.
Is this our salvation from Apple's monopolistic pricing policy? ...nah...
These performance figures display the Amiga as a good alternative to the
low-end Mac. The problem is, is Apple at all interested in the low-end
Mac market? Likewise, how interested are we? (who is out there that is
still on a Mac+ would buy another Mac+ today? Be honest).
How soon/can the Amax be upgraded to be a Mac II-series competitor?
This is probably what it will take to get Apple's prices competitive.
It's *insulting* that a VGA 80386 costs less than a SE/20.
Why is Apple's repoire worse than EXXON's? (how goes the 90 day warranty?)
When was the last time info-mac heard anything from an Apple *spokesman*?
Does Apple have a customer relations and/or service Email address? Why not?
Hugh Huntzinger
HUNTZING@.PICA.ARMY.MIL
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 12:44 EST
From: TTHOMAS@ccmail.sunysb.edu
Subject: Need help with Appletalk
We are thinking about setting up an Appletalk network of about 35 SE/30's
using Apple Share File Server Software over a Phonenet backbone, here at
SUNY, Stony Brook. The Mac's have local hard disks. Laser Printing is done
>From a stand alone machine with the vend-a-card credit card system.
The main objectives behind the network are:
- Share 5 image writer printers
- Refresh system files and programs on the local hard disks weekly
- Ensure that only x # of copies of a particular software is running
at any given time
I have the following questions:
Do I need any additional software to do this?
I have heard of people having problems with Image writers on Appletalk networks
What kind of problems? Is there a way around this?
Does the Apple Share Print Server Software support Image writers?
ANy help that you can provide is greatly appreciated!
Thomas B.Thomas internet address: tthomas@sbccnova.cc.sunysb.edu
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 14:23:13 CST
From: hyde@ngstl1.csc.ti.com (Clint Hyde 343-7709 Strong Typing is for people with Weak Memories!)
Subject: Pantone color
can anyone tell me if there is any paper which is Pantone color paper which
can be used in a laserwriter? and if so, who makes, where can I get some?
I know there are pantone-colored papers, but slick-coated (like magazine
stock), which won't work in the laserwriter.
-- clint
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 08:39:40 ETZ
From: Kathy DuBose <DUBOSE%AKRONVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Password protection
Hi,
Could someone please recommend a good application or desk accessory
which will keep unwanted users for accessing a (stand alone) hard-disk.
I am thinking of something along the lines of a password program.
Thanks,
Kathy DuBose
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Date: 19 Jan 90 10:20:00 EST
From: "ZZT" <zzt@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov>
Subject: RE Cricket Graph & 2ci
Concerning the posted fix for Cricket Graph ona a 2ci
_FLAME ON_ A better solution would be to stop using Cricket Graph and use
a program better program. I have found that even the demo verision of
Kaleidagraph is better than Cricket Graph. _FLAME OFF_ You should consider
Igor also, it can do a lot.
Disclaimer, This one REALLY is a purely PERSONAL opinion, flame and all.
Jon Tischler
Oak Ridge National Lab
P.O. Box 2008 on BITNET zzt@ornlstc
Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6024 on ARPANET zzt@ornl.gov
U.S.A
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 07:54 CDT
From: David Swanger <SWANGER@ducvax.auburn.edu>
Subject: Serial Laserwriter Driver
Apda used to have a serial laserwriter driver for 10 dollars. I don't know
their address or phone number.
David Swanger
Academic Computing
Auburn University, Al.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 16:24:48 PST
From: bri@garnet.berkeley.edu (Brian Reilly)
Subject: Spanish spelling checkers
Does anyone know where I can get a Spanish dictionary/spelling checker
for use with Microsoft Word?
Thanks,
Brian Reilly Division of Language and Literacy
bri@ucbgarne.bitnet UC Berkeley School of Education
bri@garnet.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 12:06:12 CST
From: umbaugh@evax.arl.utexas.edu (David Umbaugh)
Subject: SuperClock 3.8 in BinHex form
Several issues of this digest in the past Dave Umbaugh
<umbaugh@evax.arl.utexas.edu> complained that the SuperClock-151.hqx
file ftp-ed from the sumes-aim info-mac archive was not recognized as
a control panel device after decoding and un-stuffing. It also didn't
work. Several people replied that they had no problem. Some
suggested a possible conflict with some other init. Someone also
suggested I be sure I was using the latest version of GateKeeper. I
was assured that the version on the Rice U shadow archive checked out.
I obtained a copy from there -- same result. Michael Richardson
re-stuffed and BinHexed his working copy which he mailed to me. Same
result.
Today I discovered the problem. I had not configured GateKeeper for
StuffIt. I hid GateKeeper, Gatekeeper log, and Gatekeeper Aid in a
folder, restarted, fired up StuffIt, decoded, unstuffed, quit. Presto
-- SuperClock! displayed its icon. Get Info recognized it as a cdev.
Moved it to the system folder, restarted. Problem solved. Next step
is to get Gatekeeper back out and configure it so that StuffIt can
create the resource fork.
Thanks to all who helped.
-dave
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Date: 19 Jan 90 20:32:20 GMT
From: rock@sun.com (Bill Petro)
Subject: Vantage (was DA to read TEXT, MacWrite, MSWord?)
claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dennis Cohen) writes:
>In comp.sys.mac.digest Huangxin Wang writes:
>>Does anyone know of a DA which can read text, MacWrite as well as MSWord
>>format files (Somewhat like an MSWord level DA). miniWriter can only read
>>text. There another DA which can read MacWrite. I am writing a DA which
>>displays the text part of ALL files, including MSWord file. But MSWord
>>format and some MacWrite format characters are displayed as some junk
>>characters.
>Vantage, the commercial version of McSink, reads MacWrite and MS Word files.
>I believe that it also has a filter to read WriteNow files, but I haven't
>installed that one. The current version is 1.5 and is available from
>Preferred Publishers.
It is not quite available, at least not for me. I ordered my upgrade in
December and was told that it would go out December 29. I have since
learned from their tech folk that this was a bit "ambitious". These
upgrades started going out only recently, at about 200 a day, but
yesterday practically the whole office is out sick. Each time I call,
it is "in the mail". Any one gotten theirs? Care to give us a review
of the differences from 1.0?
Bill Petro {decwrl,hplabs,ucbvax}!sun!Eng!rock
"UNIX for the sake of the kingdom of heaven" Matthew 19:12
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