Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (02/15/90)
Info-Mac Digest Wed, 14 Feb 90 Volume 8 : Issue 28
Today's Topics:
Address Anyone?
Any ideas?
Binehex
Chip Merchant Address
DOS Card for Mac / Environmental Engineering Software
FITS image translator
Image recorders.
Mac C Development Options
MacPlot
Mac Programming Questions?
Obsolete Parts Needed!!!
OzTeX FTP
Pen-pals
Please post on comp.sys.mac.digest
Problems with Datadesk MAC-101 keyboard
SetVol problem and TN stack download problem....
Solarian II
Startup Screen color problem solved
Test page on LaserWriter IInt
TeXtures
The MacPOP and PC POP Electronic Mail Packages
Whither Wingz 1.1
Writing on Macs vs. PCs
Writing on Macs vs PCs
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 09:02:43 EST
From: Jeff Meredith <meredith@erl.mit.edu>
Subject: Address Anyone?
I tried sending my shareware fee to Bernard Gallet for the Inside Mac DA.
However, my letter was returned and the address is out of date. Anyone
have a current address.
Thanks,
Jeff Meredith, meredith@erl.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 14:16:04 CET
From: FFAVATA%ESTEC.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Any ideas?
'MSG:FROM: FFAVATA --ESTEC TO: INFOMAC --EXTERNAL 90-02-08 14:16:00
To: INFOMAC --EXTERNAL Info-mac list
From: Fabio Favata
Subject: RE: Any ideas?
Regarding the enquiry on X-window for the Mac, there is a product out there
that makes your Mac behave as an X-window terminal; it is called eXodus, from
a company called White Pine software. I have played with it a little, and
seems to be all right, it does what it claims without too many frills.
Fabio Favata
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 02:40 PST
From: <MCFARLAA%CLARGRAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Binehex
Greetings,
I seem to be having trouble with downloading mac-arch.f0008732
It is listed as a Macbinary file (.bin) yet when I download it, my
communications software doesn't think it is, and the result is the usual
garbled mess. Is this file really Macbinary formatted. Has anyone else had
this trouble? My software has had no trouble with .bin files from BB's.
Could it have something to do with my VAX's Kermit?
Also, mac-arch.f0006817 and f0006824 don't seem to exist, even
though they are listed in macarch.filelist. (under UTIL)
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
Andrew McFarland
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 90 20:24 CST
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Chip Merchant Address
Someone wanted the address for Chip Merchant, here it is:
Chip Merchant
9285 Chesapeake Drive, Suite L
San Diego, CA 92123
1-800-426-6375
1-619-268-4774
1-619-268-0874 (fax line)
bye for now but not for long
Greeny
BITNET: MISS026@ECNCDC
Internet: MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
GEnie: GREENY
MacNet: GREENY
America OnLine: GREENY1
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 09:54:02 PLT
From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: DOS Card for Mac / Environmental Engineering Software
A professor in our Environmental Engineering Department is trying to
decide whether to purchase a Mac or a DOS machine. He has used Mac
a little, and likes the fact that he can use it readily, even after
a hiatus. (With DOS, there's more of a non-productive relearning
period after a time of non-use, according to him). Also, he is
interested in getting some help with filing and retrieving very
miscellaneous information (which brings HyperCard to mind, of course).
In general, he says the "Feelgood" argument leans toward the Mac.
Unfortunately, the bulk of the Environmental Engineering software is
written for the DOS environment. According to him, there has been an
explosion of software in the field (some 400 packages introduced in
just the last couple of years), and he doesn't want to be cut off from
those software riches. So he asked me to pass along to you two questions:
1) Is there anybody out there who has experience with DOS cards for the
Mac II? Are they easy to live with, acceptable in performance, reliable,
etc.?
2) Is anyone aware of software in the Environmental Engineering field
which is written for the Mac environment?
Reply directly to me and I will summarize to the net.
Thanks.
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
Joshua Yeidel YEIDEL@WSUVM1.BITNET
Academic Computing Services YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Washington State University (509) 335-0441
Pullman, WA 99164-1226
DISCLAIMER: I'm speaking solely for myself here, not Washington State U.
-- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- -
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 14:19:20 CET
From: FFAVATA%ESTEC.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: FITS image translator
'MSG:FROM: FFAVATA --ESTEC TO: INFOMAC --EXTERNAL 90-02-08 14:19:17
To: INFOMAC --EXTERNAL Info-mac list
From: Fabio Favata
Subject: FITS image translator
Hello, I am looking for a way to translate images in FITS format (a standard
for astronomical images) to some of the common Mac formats (EPS, TIFF, etc.).
Does someboby out there have such a piece of software, or know where to get
it? I might always think about writing it myself, but on the other hand I do
not know where to get descriptions of the file formats for TIFF et al. And of
course, if it already exists, I do not want to reinvent the wheel.
Thanks, Fabio Favata
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 14:23:04 CET
From: FFAVATA%ESTEC.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Image recorders.
'MSG:FROM: FFAVATA --ESTEC TO: INFOMAC --EXTERNAL 90-02-08 14:23:02
To: INFOMAC --EXTERNAL Info-mac list
From: Fabio Favata
Subject: Image recorders.
Hello, I am planning to buy a photographic quality image recorder for my Mac,
to have publication quality copies and transparencies of both grayscale and
color image. Does somebody out there have some experience with some of the
devices? I do appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks, Fabio Favata
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 08:33 EDT
From: JACKSON@mecan1.maine.edu
Subject: Mac C Development Options
With 1MB RAM you're limited to using THINK-C anyway. Don't despair though,
* it's very usable system with a great debugger
* at the East Coast Developer Workshop, the head Lisp person at Apple
said that almost 50% of Apples own developers use MPW, but she also
let it slip that when she "get's out of LISP and goes to THINK- ah-
I mean MPW..." apparently there's some friction within Apple.
Jax
jackson@mecan1.bitnet
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 23:51:19 EST
From: "Mark A. Saper" <SAPER@xtal0.harvard.edu>
Subject: MacPlot
Probably all of you use slide writers, but I'm using the MacPlot option
of MacDraw II to generate plotter commands for an HP plotter. Unfortunately
the driver is set up for the HP plotter to be directly connected to the
Mac. Has anyone modified this driver to output plotter commands (in ASCII)
directly to a Mac file instead? Our HP plotter is connected to our mainframe.
Currently I have a kludge where the MacPlot thinks its writing to a
plotter but actually it is writing to a program running on the host
which is writing the commands directly to disk (on the host).
Any help from anyone (wake up Claris) would be appreciated.
By the way, many thanks to at least 30 people who responded to my
request about Microsoft RTF format. The most complete doc is the
one available directly from MS and is more detailed than the one supplied
to me in BinHex format by some of the net subscribers.
-Mark Saper
Dr. Mark A. Saper Phone: (617) 495-5043
Harvard University Facsimile: (617) 495-9613
7 Divinity Ave. BitNet: SAPER@HUXTAL.BITNET
Cambridge, MA 02138 InterNet: saper@xtal0.harvard.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 09:32:42 EST
From: bkirsch@nadc.arpa (B. Kirsch)
Subject: Mac Programming Questions?
I am writing a MIDI application (in Think C 4.0) using Kirk Austin's
(From Mac Tutor) MIDI drivers. I am able to send and receive MIDI data.
My problem is, and I can't figure out why, sometimes when I send a lot of data
my macintosh seems to be getting keydown events from nowhere. Mostly
slash's /////. And doesn't stop until I press the delete key. I noticed
this when my edit field in a dialog box, would fill up with characters. I
can't predict when this occurs, but it happens only when I call a MIDI routine
such as TxMIDIA (maybe RxMIDIA also). It definitely happens when I am typing
in an edit field while sending MIDI. What would cause this. Are the keyboard
interupts interfering with the SCC. Is the keyboard connected to the SCC?
Another question, for some reason I can't get any keyup events when
I call GetNextEvent(everyEvent,theEvent). What would cause this. Might I
have an INIT that filters this event before GetNextEvent sees this?
Thanks in advance,
Barry Kirsch
MAIL: Naval Air Development Center
Code 5051
Warminster PA, 18974-5000
PHONE: (215) 441-1886
ARPA: bkirsch@nadc.arpa
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1990 9:36:10 CST
From: MDJ7439@venus.tamu.edu (M. David Jordan)
Subject: Obsolete Parts Needed!!!
Help me!
I need to find two numeric keypads for the old 512K Mac. Apple dealers don't
sell them anymore because the 512 was discontinued long ago. Sun Remarketing
doesn't have any either. They told me that one of the companies that makes the guts of the keypad went out of business and they won't have any for 3-4
months! I have promised to get these for some of my father's friends, and I
need to find some fast! If you have a used one you want to sell, or know
where I can find them, please send me your name and U.S Snail-Mail address.
I really have used up all my other resources for finding these keypads, and
I'm hoping you folks here on the net can help!
Thanks in advance!
Michael Jordan
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Date: Feb 8th 11:00 TST
From: <oflazer%TRBILUN.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: OzTeX FTP
(To the editors: I was wondering if you could help me with this
and if not could you post it in the next infomac digest
Thanks)
I have tried to retrieve the OzTeX .hqx files starting with the
ones in /pub/sources/OzTeX using the BITFTP server at PUCC.
It looks like the files ( e.g. oztex.sit01.hqx) are not really
in hqx format since typing them on my terminal causes havoc.
I have done many retrievals from the STanford archives using the
ftp server with absolutely no problems. Can anybody help me out with this?
Are there other internet sites where I get Oztex from?
Thanks in advance
Kemal Oflazer
oflazer@trbilun.bitnet
ko@cs.cmu.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 14:13:57 EST
From: "Bret Ingerman 315-443-1114" <INGERMAN%SUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Pen-pals
Hello all:
I have a faculty member here at Syracuse University who teaches technical
communications. Currently, his class sends copies of their work to local
"pen-pals" who will then make comments and send them back to the author,
all via EMAIL.
He is now interested in expanding this. He would like to find a faculty
member at a european institution (or, non U.S. institution) who would be
willing to have their students act as editorial pen-pals.
This faculty member is not currently on Info-Mac (although he will be
soon). If you are interested, please correspond with him directly:
Don Wagner
email: dkwagner@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Phone: (315) 443-1091 USA
Thank you all.
Bret Ingerman ingerman@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Microcomputer Consultant
Syracuse University
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 10:43 EST
From: PAHA@db1.cc.rochester.edu
Subject: Please post on comp.sys.mac.digest
To Campus Macintosh Lab Managers:
I am evaluating hard disk security packages to protect Macintosh hard disks
in public access labs. My concerns are:
* Protecting the disks from virus infection
* Protecting the installed system and software from corruption
* Preventing unauthorized users from storing data files
* Protecting applications from being illegally copied onto floppies
I have seen a number of packages here on the net: SecurInit, GuardDog,
MacPassword, VolumeImage. None of these seemed to do all that I want,
although I am open to being persuaded otherwise.
I am interested in hearing the real-world experiences of lab managers with
these or other products. I'm sure that this is a commom problem, and I
hope that someone has found a reasonable solution.
Please send email; I'll summarize to the net.
Thanks,
Phil Harriman
University of Rochester Computing Center
paha@db2.cc.rochester.edu (Internet)
paha@uordbv (BITNET)
(716) 275-2811
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 06:33:48 PST
From: I've been buried by tumbling Time 08-Feb-1990 0930 <BALS@hyster.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Problems with Datadesk MAC-101 keyboard
I recently purchased a used Datadesk MAC-101 keyboard. It came "as is,"
>From a reseller -- no paperwork, no macro software (which I understand
is originally shipped with the keyboard). With two exceptions (so far),
the keyboard works perfectly. I'm looking for information on the two
exceptions ...
1. I can't rebuild the desktop. Holding down the option and command keys
on the MAC-101 keyboard while booting does not bring up the "Do you
really want to rebuild ..." dialogue. The Mac boots normally.
2. Holding down the option key while pressing the period key does not
produce the "greater than or equal to" symbol as it should. Instead,
the Mac beeps (somewhat sadly :-)). Curiously, using the option and
comma keys *does* produce the "less than or equal to" symbol.
I've come up with inelegant workarounds for both things (for instance,
borrowing a standard Plus keyboard [I sold mine] when I want to rebuild
the desktop). But if there's a way to "fix" the Datadesk keyboard, or
better workarounds, I'd do that. So, anyway, are these known problems of
the MAC-101, or is there something wrong with my keyboard? If known
problems, are there fixes? If it's my keyboard, is it something I can
fix myself? Any help will be much appreciated. You can send mail to me,
and, if there's interest, I'll summarize to the group. Thanks.
"The only thing technology does is
prolong hopelessness." -- Dr. Brain
-- Fred Bals (DEC Merrimack, NH)
Mail addresses:
bals@hyster.dec.com bals@hyster.enet.dec.com
UUCP: ...!decwrl!hyster.enet.dec.com!bals
ARPA: bals%hyster.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 22:55 EST
From: WATTS@urhep
Subject: SetVol problem and TN stack download problem....
Hi y'all,
Got two questions here:
1) I have been trying to download the tn stack from info-mac. It is in
nine parts (gulp! -- thank god for free local calls!). I have
pulled it down twice. Each time, when trying to de-binhex it with
SuffIt, I have gotten a bad CRC check on the Data fork. Opening
the resulting archive gives me funny filenames (and trying un-stuffit
one of those files crashes my SE/30!). I have down loaded the set
twice: ftp to a local computer, and Kermit down to my mac. Anyone
else had any problems.
2) In a program I have the following approx code segment (Think-C 4.0)
char volname = "\pGarbageJunkTrash"
int theError;
theError = SetVol (volname, 0);
Upon return, theError is zero even though volume name "GarbageJunkTrash"
is not mounted on the system. Further, if I do a GetVol after this call,
the volume name hasn't changed. Even more mysterious is when there is
a volume called "GarbageJunkTrash" mounted on the system: the volume
name still dosen't change! Grrrr.
I have tryied turnning that 0 into a -1, but actions are the same. How
do I get SetVol to pay serious attention to the volName parameter?
Thanks in advance,
Gordon.
BITNET: WATTS@UORHEP
INTERNET: gwatts@ruthep.rutgers.edu
USMAIL: Gordon Watts
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY
14627-0011
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 11:24:29 EST
From: Josh Hayes <JAHAYES%MIAMIU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Solarian II
This is a quick warning to people interested in the game
Solarian (IMD Vol. 8 #16): It will ONLY run on a Mac II
series CPU and you MUST have a color or gray-scale monitor
to use it. This seems to me to miss about 90% (or more)
of the readers of this digest, but, at least, don't waste
your time downloading the game unless you have access to
such a high-end system. I don't think this was made sufficiently
clear in the original post.
Disgruntled poor post-doc struggling along without color,
Josh Hayes, Zoology, Miami U, Oxford OH 45056
jahayes@miamiu.bitnet, jahayes@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 11:42:06 +0100
From: Espen Jarle Vestre <espen@ikaros.uio.no>
Subject: Startup Screen color problem solved
In info-mac V8 #21 I asked for help with colorless startup screens on
Mac IIs. In #24 Mike (mjkobb@media-labb.media.mit.edu) suggests that I make
sure that the machines are in 8-bit mode when I shut down. I didn't try this
immediately, since I _know_ that the machines are _always_ in 8-bit mode.
But just know I opened the controlpanel's monitor device, set it to 4 colors
and (without closing) immediately back to 256 colors. Of course, I guessed
that this might fool the Monitor cdev to save the "new" setting. And it
apparently did! The colors are back again. But it's hard to tell what
actually happened. It seems reasonable that "monitors" loads before the
startup screen is shown, but it's still difficult to understand how a corrupted
saved setting could affect the startup screen but nothing else.
Anyway - thanks to Mike for giving a useful hint.
Espen Vestre
dep. of math.,
university of Oslo
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 07:50:14 EST
From: rmourant@lynx.northeastern.edu
Subject: Test page on LaserWriter IInt
I just got a LaserWriter IInt and want to disable the test page.
In the manual it says you can do this by changing the POSTSCRIPT
paramters. Does any one know how to do this.
Please send replies to:
rmourant@lynx.northeastern.edu
Thanks. This will save a great deal of paper!
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 90 14:47 CST
From: <NBEHR%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: TeXtures
TeXtures 1.01 was pretty buggy; about a year ago I got 1.01f from
them, and it made things much better.
The problem with formats may have been caused by the fact that
TeXtures apparently looks at available memory and decides on that
basis whether \dump is possible or not; if it decides there's too
little RAM, it doesn't do *a thing* (not even an alert!) I've been
running it on a 1MB Plus with a RAM disk, and it though I had a
512K Mac. Didn't let me \dump anything.
Overall, I find the previewer indispensable; the program itself is
quite fast (on a Mac II it's noticeably faster than on a VAX 780
under moderate user load), and those of us who are lucky enough to
qualify for an educational discount can get it for around $100
(I agree that $500 is too much).
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 90 10:07:19 -0800
From: Randy Moore <randy@trident.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: The MacPOP and PC POP Electronic Mail Packages
SUBJECT: The MacPOP and PC POP Electronic Mail Packages
The MacPOP Electronic Mail Package.
===================================
The MacPOP Electronic Mail Package allows a user to read and send mail
>From the Unix account without ever leaving the comfort of their
Macintosh environment. The package consists of the MacPOP application,
PopAlert (an INIT/CDEV that throws up a notification anytime you receive
new mail), and Launch MacPOP DA (this lets you place MacPOP anywhere on
your hard drive and launch it from the apple menu).
In addition to the abilities to send and receive mail messages, the
application provides:
- a user configurable address book
- the ability to send and receive text, BinHex, and UUEncode
enclosures along with your message
- the ability to save messages so that your favorite word
processor will be opened when you launch the message from the
Finder
The MacPOP Mail Package was developed at NASA Ames Research Center and
is available free of charge to all individuals/ organizations desiring
to use it. However, It may not be sold or bundled with any commercial
product.
Please Note: MacPOP also uses MacTCP, a commercial product distributed
by Apple Computer. This must be acquired separately from Apple.
The PC POP Electronic Mail Package.
===================================
PC POP is an IBM (or compatible) personal computer electronic mail
client program that allows its users to send and receive electronic mail
to and from their UNIX account(s) without leaving the MS-DOS
environment.
Currently version 2.1 of PC POP operates using the Excelan ethernet
board. A version 2.1 NCSA supporting 3Com, Western Digital, Slip8250,
MICOM-Interln, IBMToken and NOVELLE boards will be released in a month
or two. Earlier versions exist for the 3Com board (3C501) and the TOPS
flashcards.
The features and functionality of PC POP came from the Berkeley Mailer,
version 5.2. Some PC POP features are:
- user interface modeled after the DECSYSTEM-2060's TOPS-20
- Mail address aliasing.
- Inclusion of ASCII files.
- Inclusion and Extraction of UUENCODE/UUDECODE, BINHEX/HEXBIN,
TEXT enclosures.
- Invoking a PC editor/word processor on the body of a new
message.
- Message Alert to inform the user when new mail has arrived.
- The ability to finger (look up) other users.
- The ability to fork (sort of) other MS-DOS programs in PC POP.
AVAILABILITY
==============
The MacPOP and PC POP client program and the POP server are available
free of change from NASA. However, you may *NOT* sell or reuse any part
of the package for commercial purposes. To acquire the POP Electronic
Mail Package, you must submit a written request to:
Dr. Dale R Lumb
Division Chief Code ED
NASA Ames Research Center
Mail Stop 233-17
Moffett Field, CA 94035
with a carbon copy to:
John Yin
Group Leader
NASA Ames Research Center
Mail Stop 233-18
Moffett Field, CA 94035
Technical Information:
=============================
MacPOP and PC POP are implemented using an enhanced POP2 (Post Office)
Protocol (RFC 937) and the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (RFC 922). The
POP server can be compiled and installed on Ultrix, 4.3BSD, SunOS 4.0.3
and Apple's A/UX. The client/server command protocol is carried out
using TCP/IP.
Sources for the enhanced server are also available upon request.
========================================================================
Randy Moore & Bill Schweickert
Internet: binky@trident.arc.nasa.gov
Sterling Federal Systems
Data Systems Development Group
NASA Ames Research Center
Mail Stop 233-18
Moffett Field, CA 94035
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 11:47:16 PST
From: SUNDAR_PRASAD@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Whither Wingz 1.1
Hello Netters,
This query is directed to users of Wingz (especially at Canadian sites). Have
you received your Wingz 1.1 upgrade and if so, when did you get it ? Though we
are a University site, we purchased the standard version (as opposed to the
educational one) early in November 1989 and are still to receive the upgraded
version. Informix seems to have sent version 1.1 even to purchasers of the
educational version in the US. Surely, registered users of the standard version
must figure higher in their mailing list (or are Canadian users lower priority
?). I called Informix about a month back and was told that all registered users
would automatically receive upgrades...we are still waiting.
My second question is regarding the way Wingz handles colour graphics in its
clipboard. We plot surfaces from grids of sizes ranging from 50x50 to 75x75
points (the size of the file in which the data and graphic is saved rarely
exceeds 200k). However, when the plot is selected and either cut/copied, we
get an 'Out of Memory' box after about 20 seconds. We are running 6.0.3 on an
8 MB MacIIx. Increasing the allocated memory for Wingz from 1MB to 3MB allows
a successful copy/cut operation (though it still takes a bit of time). What is
even more galling is that the graphic in the clipboard does not paste into
McDrawII (we get a 'Object too large to fit in boundaries' message even though
the drawing size set in McDraw is much larger than the graphic). The clipboard
pastes successfully into Image 1.19 (an excellent public domain program from
National Institute of Health), but we lose all color. Are Wingz clipboard color
objects incompatible with other Mac applications or are we doing something
wrong ? Thanks in advance for any tips.
Sundar_Prasad@mtsg.ubc.ca <Internet>
userffa3@ubcmtsg <Bitnet>
Civil Engineering
U of British Columbia
Vancouver, CANADA.
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Date: 08 Feb 90 0038 PST
From: Tovar <TVR%CCRMA-F4@sail.stanford.edu>
Subject: Writing on Macs vs. PCs
Without any real evidence, i would suggest that marginal freshmen writers
tend to get concentrated in the Mac group simply because the Mac is thought
to be alot easy to learn to use. (Perhaps the comparable writers in the
IBM-PC group drop out before handing in their first paper?) I can't imagine
the computer can have much effect on the choice of topics. Perhaps this is
just yet another example of blaming the technology and ignoring the social
problems.
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 17:55 EST
From: GODDEN@gmr.com
Subject: Writing on Macs vs PCs
If Graeme Forbes (info-mac, v8, n24) accurately represents Maria
Peoples Halio's article in "Academic Computing," then she exhibits
some bewildering reasoning. To claim that poor writing skills are the
fault of the machine because it's too easy to use (the Mac) and NOT
due to the people doing the writing leads to an absurdity when the
line of thought is pursued. If the IBM PC leads to better writing
because it's harder to use than the Mac, then a manual typewriter
would be better still. And using paper and pen/pencil would give
still better results. Gosh, the best writers must carve out their
thoughts on stones using hammers and chisels. The difficulty of
erasing makes them refine their thoughts before committing them
to the rock.
-Kurt Godden
godden@gmr.com
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