Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (02/16/90)
Info-Mac Digest Thu, 15 Feb 90 Volume 8 : Issue 29
Today's Topics:
accessing Mac IIcx slots
AltCDEF
AltWDEF 1.5.3.
America Online and this net part II
ATM & other init/cdevs
ATM, MS Word 4.0 & Imagewriter: How do I get fractional widths?
AztecC *without* the SHELL (?)
Cursors in System File
Facade 1.01
Faster software floating point
Genealogy stacks
Internal hard drives for the SE
Micropolis HD and Storware
Needed: PICT to PICS Conversion Utility
Quiet external disk drives
RedRyder and GIF
Scroll bars in lists
SPAMM
Summary: Writing on Macs vs PCs
SuperSpool.....
TappyType 1.3
window resize help!
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 90 09:59:10 EST
From: Toni Sciolto <TONE%BROWNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: accessing Mac IIcx slots
I need to access a card in slot 2 (board 2) of a Mac IIcx. Does anyone know ho
w I can find the base address for this board?
Anything you have to offer is greatly needed/appreciated!
-- Toni
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 90 01:28:15 EST
From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
Subject: AltCDEF
The latest version of this control panel device that redefines the scroll bars
used on the Macintosh. Read enclosed documentation. Downloaded from GEnie.
Use Stuffit 1.5.1 to decode the BinHex and decompress the archive.
Enjoy... Willi
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/alt-cdef.hqx; 54K]
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 90 23:25:29 PST
From: 6600pete%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Pete Gontier)
Subject: AltWDEF 1.5.3.
Here's a copy of the latest version of AltWDEF, 1.5.3.
It replaces your standard window look with a much more customizable
one, one which includes an extra box next to the zoom box which
_shrinks the window to an icon_. Pretty spiffy. If you are familiar
"Alex's WDEF" in WindChooser 1.12, then take my word for it as the
author of the WindChooser cdev that this is much much better.
It should take care of any bugs you have found and surprise you
with some new options as well.
I had promised a number of people that AltWDEF was submitted to
comp.binaries.mac months ago, and it was, but it took till now
to appear. Thanks God for info-mac's archiving of files -- any
hideous commercial demos that appear don't cut down on the volume
of the rest of the software traffic.
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/alt-wdef-153.hqx; 56K]
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 90 14:45:41 EST
From: 3man%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: America Online and this net part II
Greetings:
About 10 days ago I posted a message about having the info-mac users
meet for a chat on America Online. I had planned to post the responses,
but my local MAILBOX got purged, and they are lost. Briefly, I had mixed
responses.
With the limited number of responses that I got, I can't say whether
or not this should happen. This is what I would like to do. If you
want to have an info-mac conference on America Online, send me a blank
mail message with a subject of "Yes", if not, send a message with a subject
of "No" (please note if your MAILing system doesn't support subjects, just
send a one line message). This will make it easier on users that don't
really have time to send lots of mail, and make it better for me to get an
idea of just how many people really want to do this.
Let's hear from everyone!
-John
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John S. Greene : Bitnet ---------> 3Man@UMass
University of Mass. : Internet -------> 3Man%UMass.Bitnet@CUNYVM.cuny.edu
Amherst, MA 01003 : America Online -> Tetrad
Voice: (413) 546-518 : CompuServe -----> 70406.1421
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Date: 9 Feb 90 16:08 -0800
From: brosser@uvcw.uvic.ca
Subject: ATM & other init/cdevs
I am trying to conserve memory on my one meg SE (oh I wish I had 2.5)
and have found that by renaming my favorite init/cdevs I can conserve
a few K by having them load into memory after ATM. I suspect that
this is not a good idea, as Adobe people took great care to name the
ATM inits to load after everything else. I have renamed the following
init/cdevs:
~SuperClock!
~Cmdr.Dialog ][
~PopChar
~Suitcase II
Am I setting myself up for some nasty system errors. Has anybody had any
experience with this tampering of ATM "load me last" init/cdevs?
Please E-mail replies, and I'll summarize to the digest.
brosser@uvcw.UVic.ca
kornel@whistler.sfu.ca
uvcw@uvicctr.Uvic.ca
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 90 12:57:20 EST
From: Stuart West <WESSTUC%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: ATM, MS Word 4.0 & Imagewriter: How do I get fractional widths?
The subject says it all: what is the patch for MS Word 4.0 that enables the
use of Fractional Widths on an Imagewriter II (thus making ATM output better)?
I remember seeing it listed on comp.sys.mac a couple of weeks ago, but I didn't
write it down.
Reply directly to me, and I'll summarize for Info-Mac.
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| Stuart C. West BITNET: wesstuc@YaleVM |
| Yale University InterNet: wesstuc@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu |
| New Haven, Connecticut America Online: Stu West |
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 90 00:34:52 EST
From: Loki Jorgenson Rm421 <loki@physics.mcgill.ca>
Subject: AztecC *without* the SHELL (?)
OK Aztec C users.... a question. Is it possible to write and
compile a program in Aztec C but have it execute without running the SHELL?
I do most of my programming in this environment since I know Unix better
than anything else and I would like use my creations without the
seemingly inescapable accompaniment of the SHELL process.
I realize that if I am going to use C-type I/O I have no choice
but I can easily use the native I/O by substitution. But will the
SHELL be activated regardless?
Thanks in advance,
Loki Jorgenson node: loki@physics.mcgill.ca
Physics, McGill University fax: (514) 398-3733
Montreal Quebec CANADA phone: (514) 398-6531
<*> mumble mumble mumble mumble .... grunt, sigh <*>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 90 06:59:59 PST
From: oster%SOE.Berkeley.EDU@jade.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Cursors in System File
Resources with large negative numbers are usually owned by some desk accessory.
The specific numbers differ from System to System because the Font/DA Mover
will renumber desk accessories and their associated resources when there is a
conflict.
The Finder handles sequences of cursors using an 'acrs' resource, which is
a count followed by a list of ids, padded so that, at run time, the 'acrs'
cam be GetResource(), HLock(), DetachResource(), and the Finder can run
through it, loading cursors and sticking the Handles in the 'acrs'. When it
is done with this initialization, it has a count followed by that many handles
to cursors, that it can use to sequence the cursors.
If you want to use animated cursors in your own programs, you should create
your own cursor resources rather than expecting to find them in the System file.
> The mac is a detour in the inevitable march of mediocre computers.
> drs@bnlux0.bnl.gov (David R. Stampf)
--- David Phillip Oster -master of the ad hoc odd hack.
Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
Uucp: {uwvax,decvax}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 12:47:45 PST
From: PUGH@ccc.nmfecc.gov
Subject: Facade 1.01
Here is Facade 1.01 which fixes a minor bug in the Get Info box
of floppy drives. As the author Greg Marriott says, "Never trust
any release with a zero on the end."
Facade is a Startup document that uses the name of a volume to
replace its disk icon with a properly named icon. The icons are
in their own file. Use ResEdit to see the icons and get their
names. Rename the disk to give it a new icon. Included are
Calvin, Hobbes, Zippy, BatLogo and more. Use ColorFinder to make
the icons appear in color.
Jon
[Archived as /info-mac/init/facade-101.hqx; 11K]
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Date: 12 Feb 90 09:56:17 EST
From: Garrett.Pelton@natasha.mach.cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Faster software floating point
I read somewhere that a software floating point package existed for the MAC
that was substantially faster the Apple SANE. It supposedly could be used
with MPW C. Anybody know of such a package??
Thanks
Gary
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 90 16:58:23 EST
From: phssra@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson)
Subject: Genealogy stacks
In Info-Mac Digest V8 #9, Adam Galper <galper@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> writes:
> I could've sworn I saw a genealogy stack several years ago that displayed
> family trees (graphically) and stored all sorts of information about each
> family member. The genealogy stack in the info-mac archives (by N. Spies,
> 1988) is not the one.
This is a different geneology stack called HyperTree; maybe it's the one you
are looking for. It seems to be more straightforward than the one currently
in the archives.
*
* ** Scott Robert Anderson gatech!emoryu1!phssra
* * * ** phssra@unix.cc.emory.edu phssra@emoryu1.bitnet
* * * * * **
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/hypertree.hqx; 28K]
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 90 16:11:37 GMT
From: Kevin 'fractal' Purcell <KPURCELL%liverpool.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>
Subject: Internal hard drives for the SE
As I am planning of buying a internal hard disk for an SE I have a few
questions.
1. I need a mounting kit that will enable me to keep my two FDs -- names
of any manufacturers would be appreciated. Does the Unimac mounting kit
allow this (the UK Quantum distributers can seem to figure out if it does).
2. Of the companies the use the Quantum mechanism (40 or 80 Mbyte), who
provides the best utilities.
3. Anybody know of particularly good "no frills" deals from smaller companies
e.g. those that advertise in the back of MacUser, MacWorld etc? for Quantum
drives.
I'm looking for personal experiences and good support as I will be buying from
the UK. Anybody have any experience with Thame in the UK?
Finally, if I do remove a floppy drive are these any different from the
"normal" 3.5" FDs. Will I be able to use it with a single board non-mac
machine?
Please send replies to me and I'll summarise it for the net.
Kevin 'fractal' Purcell "The people who make the changes are the
kpurcell @ liverpool.ac.uk people who have the knowledge"
Surface Science James Burke, "Connections"
Liverpool University, Liverpool, UK
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 22:25:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Braddock John Hathaway <bh11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Micropolis HD and Storware
Hi! I have a micropolis 1375 hard disk that I would like
to format with Storware (made by UniMac) ... does anybody
out there on the net know if Storware formats the "zero
block" (I think that's what it's called ... y'know, the
part of the HD that contains all of the formatting info).
Micropolis says that I have to send the drive to them to
get the "zero block" (or whatever) reformatted ... which
isn't a big deal ... unless I can do it with the software
that I have here already.
Suggestions?
Ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Brad
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 90 14:33:51 PLT
From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Needed: PICT to PICS Conversion Utility
I am working on some "animations", each of which consists of a series
of X-Y plots. I can get the plots in PICT form, one plot per PICT file,
but then I need to "animate" them (show them on the screen at rates
between 10 and 30 frames per second). I am using MacroMind Director
for the animation, but I have to import each PICT separately, which is
a tiresome and error-prone chore. Director is able to import from
PICS files (the new "standard" file format for multiple-PICT animations).
Question: Does anyone know of a program which can take a folder-full
of PICT files and combine them into one PICS file?
- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - --
Joshua Yeidel YEIDEL@WSUVM1.BITNET
Academic Computing Services YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Washington State University (509) 335-0441
Pullman, WA 99164-1226
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 90 22:15:11 GMT
From: Kevin 'fractal' Purcell <KPURCELL%liverpool.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>
Subject: Quiet external disk drives
Does anybody know of a external hard disk that is as quiet as a Mac Plus.
That is has no fan or a piezo-fan?
Is the Mac Plus as easy to upgrade to 4mbyte as the SE?
Many thanks
Kevin 'fractal' Purcell "The people who make the changes are the
kpurcell @ liverpool.ac.uk people who have the knowledge"
Surface Science James Burke, "Connections"
Liverpool University, Liverpool, UK
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 90 16:17:01 EST
From: Michael LeBlanc <MLEBLANC%UOGUELPH.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: RedRyder and GIF
Many thanks to the ten or so who offered help over the past week with my
problem downloading GIF files using FTP. If I haven't responded to you
directly, please accept my thanks. I finally figured out what the problem
was, and surprisingly enough it contradicts what many of my respondents had
stated, that 'Red Ryder cannot handle GIF files'.
In fact, it CAN, but ONLY if you turn off the "Strip linefeeds from received
non-MacBinary format text files" in the XMODEM and Kermit Preferences before
you download the file from your mainframe to your Mac.
The other advice was well taken, especially regarding setting the FTP
transfer to binary mode.
Michael LeBlanc, University of Guelph
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 17:18:12 PST
From: oster%SOE.Berkeley.EDU@jade.berkeley.edu (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Scroll bars in lists
To activate scroll bars in list manager lists, you need two things:
1.) call LActivate(list); so that the list Manager will know that you
want it activated and receiving clicks,
2.) make sure you are calling LClick() for clicks in the scroll bar area, which
is easy to get wrong since the scroll bar area is outsiode the bounding box
for the list
> The mac is a detour in the inevitable march of mediocre computers.
> drs@bnlux0.bnl.gov (David R. Stampf)
--- David Phillip Oster -master of the ad hoc odd hack.
Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
Uucp: {uwvax,decvax}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 90 13:19:59 +0100
From: Pottie Karl <GHGAQBA%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: SPAMM
I'd like to know all about SPAMM (System Program for Accellerated
Mac Mathematics).This product is supposed to improve Macspeed by 50%,
purely by software.
Price ? Where do I order ? Memory usage ? (dis)advantages ?
Experiences with the program ? .......
I have a 1Mb Mac+ and SC40 harddisk . Would the use of Spamm be
recommended for my system ?
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 90 17:44:04 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu>
Subject: Summary: Writing on Macs vs PCs
My posting last week of a precis of Marcia Peoples Halio's article in
Academic Computing, "Can the Machine Maim the Message?", prompted many
people to write to me. Probably I should have suggested replying to the
digest, but I'll try to summarize the main themes of the responses.
Just about everyone who wrote felt that Halio's conclusions were vitiated
by the fact that students were allowed to select which machine they used.
If they all start out with equal writing ability and the PC students
produce consistently better writing, that's a reason to think that there
may be a problem with the Mac environment (tho' there are other possible
explanations e.g. the Mac instructors are doing a bad job - but let's be
charitable).
However, the reason Halio gives for saying the students start with roughly
the same writing abilities is that they fall within the same range of SAT
scores. But this turns out to mean that (a) they weren't good enough to get
into the Honors Program, and (b) weren't bad enough to be put in a remedial
section. As many people pointed out, that still leaves a lot of room for
variation.
So the question that then arises, to quote Bill Wing, is "Did the studious
ones choose PCs and the tube-bunnies choose Macs?" And according to Ross
Koning, just about all the differences Halio observed can be explained by
such an effect. Computer-phobes choose Macs, and computer-phobes are likely
to spend less time working on their computers, so they'll produce inferior
work. Science majors will choose Macs because science is visually oriented,
and science majors are taught to write short sentences and use the passive
voice. Prelaw students, on the other hand, will write longer sentences
with subordinate clauses, and Halio doesn't seem to have investigated
whether such students typically choose the PC. And so on.
Finally, a number of people pointed out that if we project Halio's claim
that the harder-to-use writing tool produces better writing, we should
start giving out clay tablets. In Kurt Godden's words: "the best writers must
carve out their thoughts on stone. The difficulty of erasing must make them
think more clearly and refine their thoughts before committing them to the
rock."
Thanks to all who responded, especially Stuart Moulthrup for sending me
a sample of messages from an English-teachers' conference, some of which
raised some doubts about Halio's interpretation of the results she got
>From the text-analysis programs she used.
Graeme Forbes
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Date: 09 FEB 90 23:26:49 CST
From: Z4610891 <Z4610891%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: SuperSpool.....
Howdy,
I was wondering if anybody has heard of a spooler called SuperSpool?
If so, is it PD, Shareware, Commercial? And who do I need to contact if
it is commercial. Thanks.
Anthony F Gaudiano <Z4610891@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 18:14:49 -0500
From: cak3g@astsun.astro.virginia.edu (Colin Klipsch)
Subject: TappyType 1.3
This BinHex file contains version 1.3 of TappyType along with a text
file of documentation. Version 1.3 supercedes all previous versions.
TappyType is a Control Panel device which makes typewriter noises
in response to your keypresses. Simply drop it into your System folder
and restart.
Changes since V 1.21:
* added the "Show startup icon" option
* fixed bugs in the display updating code
* included workaround for the incompatibility with Suitcase II
* made more compatible (hopefully!) with future versions of
Macintosh system software
Also, I removed a "feature" which I now dearly regret including:
Version 1.21 was released in many places with the TappyType filename
protected from being changed. Unfortunately, in the rapidly expanding
world of System folder thingies, renaming INITs is sometimes necessary
to get them to work harmoniously with others. Thus, TappyType's filename
is now rename-able again, as it should be, and as it will continue to be
>From now on.
Hope you have fun with it,
Colin Klipsch
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, Virginia
cak3g@astsun.astro.virginia.edu
cak3g@bessel.acc.virginia.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/tappytype-13.hqx; 30K]
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 90 13:54:01 EDT
From: "Scott Cherkofsky (Crusader)" <LE865C%GWUVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: window resize help!
I have gotten a few sharware games that are sesigned for the MAC II and
I have an SE/30... the games work but they have dialog windows and
game windows that are either placed off of my screen (mac II screen is
bigger) or are to big for my screen. I have gone into the resources
with ResEdit but there are some dialog windows (mostly for finding files
to load) that are not reachable, IE I cannot find their resource. Neither
can I find the windows that I need to resize, in order to shrink them to my
screen... can anybody help me out with this??
Thanx in advance,
__________________________________________________________ Scott Cherkofsky
"I will not fear. Fear is the Crusader Storm Front
little death the brings total Blood_Bowl Khorne
obliteration..." - Frank Herbert Cru Blood
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