Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (02/18/90)
Info-Mac Digest Sat, 17 Feb 90 Volume 8 : Issue 33
Today's Topics:
Address Anyone?
Cad Programs summary....
Fortran
GIF Converter 2.0d12: Here it is!!
INVENTORY SOFTWARE
Mac Japanese Kanji
MacPlus stuck on RESET
Mathematica
MyPageSetup.Hqx, version 1.3
Need help on reading (mac)binary files off a 1.44M DOS disk
PC vs Mac WP
PICT description?
Printing to a VMS postscript device
Question's on MacKermit
shareware income survey review
System 7.0
System Software Compatibility?
Textures upgrade
Where did this file come from?
White Knight/Red Ryder
Writing on Macs vs PCs
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 07:34:46 PST
From: claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: Address Anyone?
In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>I tried sending my shareware fee to Bernard Gallet for the Inside Mac DA.
>However, my letter was returned and the address is out of date. Anyone
>have a current address.
>Thanks,
>Jeff Meredith, meredith@erl.mit.edu
The one that worked for me, last year, was:
Bernard Gallet
660 Miller Ave.
Cupertino, CA 95014
I believe this to still be current but, since I haven't had to contact him
since, cannot validate that assumption.
--
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
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Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
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Date: 15 FEB 90 19:10:28 CST
From: Z4610891 <Z4610891%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Cad Programs summary....
To all those who responded,
Thanks. Here is a summary of the responses to my question about CAD
programs.
Jim Mueller said:
"Check out the reviews of CAD systems in MACWORLD and MacUser.
MacUser: July 1989 "MacUser Labs Torture Test: Hands on CAD"
July 1988 "Desktop Engineering", "CAD and Mouse"
MACWORLD November 1988 "3D CAD"
oops, that should have been December '88
There are a host of CAD programs available for the Mac, although none are
Free or Share Ware. What you are looking to buy depends entirely on what
you want to do with it."
I was also told by many people of Autocad which apparently will cross
the machine boundary and allow me to also use the same program data files
on an IBM or compatible, however it is one of the most expensive.
To John R. Galloway Jr., in answer to your question, have I heard of
WorldPort, sorry, I can't say that I have.
Also, I have been told that for all those who are interested and have
access to Applelink, there are 144 entries for Cad.
Next, Gordon Hamachi recommends highly Vellum, from Ashlar Inc.
He said: "It features a novel "drafting assistant" that greatly simplifies
many complex drawing operations.". He also went on to say that MacUser
just named it the Best CAD program.
Also, Bob Kaynor said "Claris CAD ($799 retail, $399 upgrade from MacDraw II),
MacDraw II 1.1 ($399) with CAD-Pak extensions from Timothy Johnson
of MIT ($100, phone 617-253-5965), AutoCAD (Autodesk, $3000 list,
50% educ. discount). There are others. Consider your needs carefully."
I even recieved a letter from Dennis Cohen of Claris Corp telling me
how Claris Cad has won awards and that the user interface is merely an
extension of the MacDraw II UI and that is simple and easy to use and
that it is a 2-D program.
So you ask, which one am I seeking, the jury is still out on it. However,
my needs will basically revolve around architecture. So,
if anybody knows of any others that they think are better than the ones
mentioned here. I would love to hear about them. Thanks again for all
the replies.
Anthony F Gaudiano <Z4610891@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
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Date: 16 Feb 90 11:04 +0100
From: Wolfgang Hecht <hecht@zedat.fu-berlin.dbp.de>
Subject: Fortran
Hello,
i am looking for FORTRAN compiler for MACII; does anyone have some
hints?
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 90 23:57:57 EST
From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Subject: GIF Converter 2.0d12: Here it is!!
Okay, for all you folks who've been looking for a way to decode GIF files on
your Mac Plus, SE, or II, and who've been looking for a way to convert between
the various image types (PNTG, PICT, TIFF, RIFF, EPSF, GIF, etc), here's the
baby to do it!
Attached it the latest demo version of GIF Converter 2.0, version d12.
Excerpts from the info file follow:
This file contains information about GIFConverter 2.x.
THIS VERSION IS RELEASED FOR EVALUATION ONLY. IT MAY CONTAIN BUGS, AND SEVERAL
FEATURES ARE NOT IMPLEMENTED. PLEASE TAKE CARE WHEN USING THIS SOFTWARE. NEVER
USE IT TO WORK ON THE ONLY COPY OF A FILE YOU HAVE.
I have released this software in prototype form for the benefit of the many
users who have asked about Macintosh II compatibility. This version fully
supports 8-bit color.
THIS VERSION MAY NOT BE DISTRIBUTED IN ANY FORM OR BY ANY METHOD WITHOUT THE
WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR.
[...]
This program runs either in demo mode, or may be unlocked by a software key.
When running as a demo, images are corrupted to limit the usefulness of the
program, while allowing you to test your complete hardware configuration. All
commands are supported in demo mode.
To order, send $40 to:
Kevin A. Mitchell
P.O. Box 803066
Chicago, IL 60680-3066
DUE TO NEW SALES TAX LAW, THIS OFFER IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ILLINOIS. This offer
is limited, and may be withdrawn at any time.
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The complete file, including revision history, is included in the stuffit
file.
You'll note the distribution clause above. I do actually have permission to
distribute the file here and to comp.binaries.mac.
In my humble opinion, this is a terrific piece of software, and well worth
the $40.
--Mike
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/gif-converter-20d12-part1.hqx; 150K
/info-mac/demo/gif-converter-20d12-part2.hqx; 75K]
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 90 00:54 EST
From: "NAME L.G. LEDUC" <F1400004%LAUVAX01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: INVENTORY SOFTWARE
Does anyone know of a good inventory program for the MacPlus? We are currently
trying to computerize our inventory in our department but we need software
which can handle and generate bar codes. Unfortunately, we can't find such a
beast on the software market. If anyone can help us, please write me a line.
Thank you.
L.G. Leduc
Department of Biology
Laurentian University
Sudbury, Ont. CANADA
P3E 2C6
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 20:16:35 CST
From: "Bob Kusumoto" <kus3@tank.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Mac Japanese Kanji
In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>I am currently studying Japanese .I am therefore looking for a package includin
>g all the Japanese Characters (Kanjis,hiraganas and Katakanas ) on the mac.
> Does anyone know a good package (incl. fonts) on the market ?
My sister took a Japanese course over the summer at Beliot College (Wisc),
and they had a Japanese system disk with various programs for it (like
EG Word {like MS word} and Excel). The problem was that all the kanji
would take up so much space that it was impossible to keep it on one
floppy disk. Therefore, if there was a kanji character that was unknown
to the mac, you would add it. The way the mac worked was, you clicked near
the bottom corners of the apple icon in the upperleft hand corner of the
screen to cycle between: apple icon, hiragana, katakana, ascii-characters.
While you were in a hiragana or katakana mode, you would type in phonetics
in english and it would convert what you typed in as hiragana, katakana or
kanji (if it knew about the particular character). The programs printed
horizontally, left to right, so I don't know if its of any interest.
Since these were actual Mac systems, you would probably have to find someone
in japan to sell them to you (of course, all the menus come out in hiragana
and kanji japanese, rather than english).
Bob
---
Bob Kusumoto | Turned enough to see his gun,
Internet: kus3@tank.uchicago.edu | I said,
BITNET: kus3@tank.uchicago.bitnet | "Let's go out and have some fun."
UUCP: {gargoyle,oddjob}!tank!kus3 | --- New Order, "Perfect Kiss"
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Date: 13 Feb 90 07:05:00 CST
From: "Dr F J Van Wetering" <fjvanwet@zeus.unomaha.edu>
Subject: MacPlus stuck on RESET
Here is a problem that just reared its ugly head... any insight to
its cause would be greatly appreciated.
I had my personal Macintosh 512K "Fat Mac" (vintage 1985) upgraded
to a Mac Plus (new ROMS, board, and internal 800K drive). I also
purchased a Jasmine 20 Direct Drive for my system. Everything
operated just fine until about 2 weeks ago.
THE PROBLEM:
The Mac will, quite suddenly, go into a "reset" cycle. It is as if
someone is constantly pressing the "programmer's reset" switch on
the side of the Mac. By the way, NO such switch is on the side of
my Mac. The only remedy that I have found is to power down the
machine, wait approximately 60 seconds, and then power up again.
During the last few days, I have noticed that inserting a diskette
into the internal 800K drive will trigger this. The last 5-6 times
this symptom has occurred, it has been immediately after I have
inserted a diskette.
Any insight to this problem will be appreciated. Please send your
response directly to me. I will summarize and post to the net.
Thank you in advance.
Francis J. Van Wetering, Ph.D.
Management Information Systems
University of Nebraska at Omaha BITNET: FJVANWET@UNOMA1
INTERNET: FJVANWET@ZEUS.UNOMAHA.EDU
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 90 01:08:15 CST
From: fons@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Fons)
Subject: Mathematica
In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>Does anyone know where an archive of Mathematica packages
>or notebooks are? This is an AMAZING application!!
>Thanks in advance, I'll post summary if you mail to:
>B609CSE@UTARLG
>=or=
>smith@UTARLG.ARL.UTEXAS.EDU
>Jeff
There is an archive here at the University of Illinois at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu,
in addition WRI is now selling (at cost) some of the notes and packages that
were presented at the first WRI conference. There were about 500 people there!
The address to write to is publications dept ... with the rest being the usual
address that is inside your manual.
--
Paul Fons
University of Illinois
Coordinated Science Laboratory
1101 W. Springfield Av.
Urbana, Illinois 61801 U.S.A.
email: Fons@uiucvmd.bitnet or...
Fons@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date: Sun, 21 Jan 90 15:31:16 -0500
From: Don Gilbert <gilbertd@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: MyPageSetup.Hqx, version 1.3
MyPageSetup will make your preferences for "Page Setup" and
the "Print" job dialogs of your printer the default choices.
* Set Imagewriter "Tall Adjusted" so that ImageWriter &
LaserWriter page sizes are similar.
* Set the type of paper you normally stock in your printer.
* For Imagewriters, with the "Paper Size" button, you can
change the page sizes and names of paper choices, print
quality, and page feed method.
* For LaserWriters, you can change cover (user name) page
printing.
* For LaserWriters, you can add a "Disk File" check box to
print to disk. This lets you create a postscript file of the
document which you can transfer to any postscript printer.
MyPageSetup modifies the default settings in your current
printer file ("ImageWriter" or "LaserWriter", the one you pick
with "Chooser") when you click Okay on the dialogs. Nothing
is changed if you click Cancel.
MyPageSetup should work with other printers that follow the
current Apple printer methods (as of system 6.0). However
Apple states that printer methods are subject to change.
5 Feb 89> Version 1.1 adds the "Print" job dialog, paper size
settings, and help.
3 Jul 89> Version 1.2 adds the "Disk File" check box (it was there all
along, curtesy of some nameless Apple programmer, who left it in but
hidden). Many thanks to Freek "the Pistol Major" Wiedijk
(freek@mel.fwi.uva.nl) for mentioning it on Usenet comp.sys.mac
newsgroup.
21 Jan 90> Version 1.3 corrects the "Disk File" check to display
properly with Laserwriter 6.0 driver.
Don Gilbert
dogStar Software
Internet> GilbertD@IuBio.Bio.Indiana.Edu
[Archived as /info-mac/util/mypageset-13.hqx; 35K]
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 23:26 EDT
From: Veljko Roskar <ROSKAR@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>
Subject: Need help on reading (mac)binary files off a 1.44M DOS disk
I thought I had it made. We just hooked up a 1.44Mb floppy to our PC
that has ftp access. I offloaded OzTeX binary files (from tank.uchicago.edu)
and put them on the floppy named DEMO to unstuff them on the Mac using Dayna
Mounter demo init.
I also changed the file type and creator to SIT! expecting StuffIt to decompress them normally. But instead it told me I have invalid file headers and that it reached an unexpected EOF.
Same thing happened when we bypassed the Dayna DOS mounter demo and used the
Apple file exchange utility.
I know I ftp-d O.K. because we used to have a Mac<->PC serial connection and
did macbinary transfers with no problems, i.e. we didn't even had to change
the creator and type of file.
If anyone has attempted something similar, please help as it took a while to ftpthe binaries, and it will take eons longer to do the binhexed files for OzTeX.
Maybe we need to mess around the files with ResEdit or fedit?
Thank you.
Veljko Roskar
Dept. of Chemical Engineering
roskar@jhuvms.bitnet
roskar@jhunix.UUCP
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 15:32 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen)
Subject: PC vs Mac WP
RE: Writing on Macs vs PCs
I must agree, it doesn't take much critical thought to realize that in an
uncontrolled situation (as opposed to an experimental one) one cannot draw any
conclusions from the relative performances of two self-selected groups. It MAY
be that certain types of students prefer one type of computer to another. It
MAY be that certain types of computers are better or worse for writing. It MAY
be that the groups were not randomly selected. My question is, "How can an
otherwise respectable journal like Academic Computing publish an article with
so little thought behind it?" Yet another example of the (low) level of
analytical skills that our nation is becoming famous for.
Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742
The thoughts expressed above are solely my own.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 17:24:21 PST
From: kent@wsl.dec.com
Subject: PICT description?
Are the PICT and MacWrite formats described somewhere? In a tech note?
Could someone tell me which one and how I'd get it?
Thanks,
chris
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 23:54 EST
From: V141GXZN@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu
Subject: Printing to a VMS postscript device
I have a problem. I need to be able to take macintosh postscript output
and print it on a postscript device attached to a Vax cluster running
VMS 5.2. I know of a program for unix machines to take a Command-F file
and make it ready for other printers. Unfortunately I need to do it on a
Vax. If you could help me send e-mail and I will summarize in one month.
Alex W. Lynn - State University of New York at Buffalo
v141gxzn@ubvms.bitnet v141gxzn@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 11:26:34 PST
From: shahryar@sutro.sfsu.edu (The Prince from Persia)
Subject: Question's on MacKermit
Dear fellow Mac'ers:
I am the AppleShare Network Administrator here at San Francisco
State University. We have version (0.9)68 of the MacKermit software. We
have a great number of students using the MacKermit software at our location
and what I would like to do is setup the software so that certain settings,
such as key macros and Terminal setting would be saved and will be used
everytime someone uses the MacKermit software, instead of reading the info
>From a Settings file everytime.
Can this be done? Can I have MacKermit automatically read a
settings file when it is the software is launched? If it can't be done, is
there something else I can do to make this work?
Thanks for all your info...
Shahryar
<shahryar@sutro.sfsu.edu>
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 10:48:42 PST
From: John_Klippenstein@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: shareware income survey review
Here are the results of my shareware survey. I should start by
mentioning that I didn't realize that some shareware authors would be
reluctant to broadcast the amount of money they made from their programs
but apparently that is the case. I actually had more people asking to know
the results of the survey than responding with dollar values. In fact I only
received five responses from shareware authors who mentioned the amount
they had earned. The results ranged from approximately $100 to $2500
though to be fair the lowest amount was for a program which has only been
out for less than half a year while the largest amount was for a program
which has been around for over three years. The advice I received was
unanimous, if you want to earn a living writing software you'd better find
someone to publish it, if on the other hand you've written something for
yourself anyway, it might be worth your while to polish it a bit and release
it as shareware. I don't feel that the number of responses was really a
thorough survey and would still like to see some magazine take the task on.
Cliff McKnight sent me copies of a series of such articles he did for the now
defunct British mag Apple User a while ago. Though they did not mention
dollar values, they did concur with the advice I mentioned above.
The number of people wanting to know the results of my 'survey'
suggests that there are still a lot of people willing to write shareware. I
allow you to draw your own conclusions and morals from this story.
Many thanks to those who took the time to respond to my request for
information.
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Date: 15 FEB 90 15:12:53
From: P7DEA001%FRCIRP81.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: System 7.0
My friend who's sitting just beside me is wondering about the 7.0 version of
the Mac system :
"when will it comes ?"
He would be very happy to get some answers about it. Thanks in advance,
Martin.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 04:44:30 CST
From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight (SIEMUK))
Subject: System Software Compatibility?
Every silver lining has a cloud....
We have just acquired a new Mac SE/30. It slipped off the hook several
times in the last five years, but we finally landed it. Not so with a
printer though- that's still in the swim. In the meantime, the situation
arises that we are running System 6.0.4, incorporating LaserWriter 5.2 and
LaserPrep 5.2, but have to integrate with a vintage Mac Plus and LaserWriter
Plus. This runs System 3.2 and Finder 5.3, with LaserWriter 3.1 and Laser
Prep 3.1.
As anticipated, the two drivers fight over the LaserWriter. Fine,
thought I, just install LW & LP 5.2 on the old machine. This tested out
fine with all their applications - all ancient circa 1985-6 versions, just
last night. A user booted up this morning and also had no problems, but
about lunchtime, their machine complained that its boot disk contained no
printer resources, when launching applications, and from the Chooser. I've
had to reinstate the old drivers in the meantime.
A related problem is that I would love to use Public Folder on both
machines to demonstrate the ease of use of LocalTalk, and of course the old
System does not use the 'modular' ('open'?) Control Panel. As CDEVs seem to
me mostly to write to PRAM, and the Control Panel is 'just' a DA, could I
hope to get away with installing a modern Control Panel into the old System
file?
The reason I don't do the obvious and install System 6.X on the old
machine is that the users come first, in finest Mac tradition, and they are
firmly wedded to MiniFinder, in fact would rather put up with switching the
LaserWriter on and off (or disconnecting LocalTalk), rather than lose it.
I guess the final question is: Is there a source of information, apart
>From experience, which will enable me to decide compatibility between the
components of various Apple System software versions? In the absence of
such, any direct workaround hints anyone please?
Francis K
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Francis H Knight | knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com
Schlumberger Industries |
Felixstowe, UK |
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 09:23:39 EST
From: Peter Galko <PTRPB%UOTTAWA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Textures upgrade
Those of you interested in Textures might like to know that a newer
version is in the process of being sent out to the past purchasers according
to my source at Blue Sky Research. The new version number is 1.2.
Amongst other improvements, this version is supposed to support the NFNT
stuctures for fonts so the font ID conflicts you might have experienced
before if you added extra fonts may be a thing of the past (the common
fonts of Plain TeX, AMSTeX, and LaTeX are now registered with Apple), and
will allow the loading of you own hyphenation patterns (previously a
fixed resource?). I was also told that version 1.3 is also in the works
(to be written in assembler?!). Unfortunately none of this is going to
be based on version 3 of TeX---Textures with version 3.0 will definitely be
incorporated, but later (as will support for virtual fonts).
Prof. Peter Galko E-mail: PTRPB@UOTTAWA.BITNET
Department of Electrical Engineering
Room A-509, Colonel By Hall Telephone: (613)-564-7097
770 King Edward Avenue FAX: (613)-564-6882
University of Ottawa
OTTAWA, Ontario, CANADA
K1N 6N5
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 13:34:55 EST
From: "Chris Khoury (Sari's Son)" <3XMQGAA%CMUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Where did this file come from?
I was looking thru my Hard Disk today with Disk Tools II (DA) and noticed
a file: _(A2002646)_ on my HD, it's file attributes were No Copy and Invisibly
the File Type is LISA and the Creator is DALE. It was created on 9/2/02 and it
is 2.5K. Anybody know what this is?
Acknowledge-To: <3XMQGAA@CMUVM>
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1990 17:17:26 PDT
From: Piersol@apple.com (Kurt Piersol)
Subject: White Knight/Red Ryder
In article <9002160046.AA08572@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Denis Beauchemin
writes:
> One other thing I don't like about the program: it can't start a ZModem
> receive (download) automatically! You have to start it manually. It's
the
> only program I know of (on micros) that can't start a ZModem download by
> itself!
We must not be using the same version 11.1 of White Knight. Not only can
it automatically start a download under ZMODEM, but Scott actually
recommends it be allowed to do so rather than starting it from the menu.
It has started automatically every time I've done a ZMODEM download.
Kurt Piersol
Usenet: {sun,...}!apple!Piersol
Internet: Piersol@apple.com
AppleLink: Piersol.k
Disclaimer: Nobody would countenance this sort of drivel if they knew about it.
Certainly not my employer!
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 10:36:14 CST
From: umbaugh@evax.arl.utexas.edu (David Umbaugh)
Subject: Writing on Macs vs PCs
In commenting on Graeme Forbes report of the "Acedemic Computing"
article re. quality of writing produced by students using Macs vs
those using PCs, Kurt Gooden says:
And using paper and pen/pencil would give
still better results. Gosh, the best writers must carve out their
thoughts on stones using hammers and chisels. The difficulty of
erasing makes them refine their thoughts before committing them
to the rock.
-Kurt Godden
godden@gmr.com
Some of the most polished writing in the computer science area comes
>From the pen (or pencil) of Professor Edsgar Dijkstra who scorns the
use of computer based word processors. He has made some scathing
remarks about the output of many writers who use such instruments to
compose without thinking.
L. David (Dave) Umbaugh, Computer Science Engineering, University of
Texas at Arlingon, PO Box 19015 Arlington, TX 76012, (817) 273-3628
<umbaugh@evax.utarl.edu> Formerly <umbaugh@evax.arl.utexas.edu> or
<CS_UMBAUGH@EVAX.ARL.UTEXAS.EDU> or
<umbaugh@hcx.arl.utexas.edu>
<B652LDU@UTARLG> BITNET
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