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Info-Mac Digest Sat, 24 Feb 90 Volume 8 : Issue 36 Today's Topics: A Great Pink Floyd Selection Batch Unbinhexing/Unstuffing (SUMMARY and SOURCE) BeepShuffle INIT v0.3 CMS harddisk problem digital calliper Downloading in background. Dvorak utils Following cdev FOTRAN compiler Grouper INIT 1.0 help w/ftp filenames Info-Mac Digest V8 #32 LaserLondon Font LaserPrep for non-Apple LaserWriter Printers MacBooz 2.0 Modems Moire 3.02.sit.hqx Novice Mac User- Planet Program Red Ryder Bashing Using Lists in dialogs Virus Encyclopedia Where did this file come from? Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indicies are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 00:09:32 EST From: savkar@hyperion.ee.cornell.edu (Sunil Savkar) Subject: A Great Pink Floyd Selection This is an excerpt from Pink Floyd's Welcome to the Machine. It makes an awesome startup sound for those enthusiasts. It was recorded via a MacRecorder direct from my CD player. Sunil Savkar savkar@ee.cornell.edu p.s. I have more sounds that I can send if anyone wants them!! [Archived as /info-mac/sound/welcome-to-the-machine-part1.hqx; 165K /info-mac/sound/welcome-to-the-machine-part2.hqx; 165K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 90 01:32:06 EST From: jjw7384@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Jeff Wasilko) Subject: Batch Unbinhexing/Unstuffing (SUMMARY and SOURCE) Quite a while ago, I requested info on batch un-binhexing/ un-stufing software available for the mac. I received a few replies about this, all of them but one suggesting a solution centered around a mainframe. One person suggested that Ray Lau's commercial version of Stuffit might do batch work. What I found was a trio of programs from the archives at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the /info-mac/unix directory. The combination of these three programs allow almost-batch operation (I'll get into why it's 'almost' later). The three programs are: -rw-r--r-- 1 macmod info-mac 54554 Jan 16 18:18 mcvert-15.shar mcvert converts a .hqx (BinHex 4.0) file to a .bin (MacBinary file) that can be read by unsit. This program allows wildcard operations. Additionally, mcvert will unpack PackIt files. Files in: *.hqx Files out: *.bin (generally *.sit.bin) -rw-r--r-- 1 macmod info-mac 26067 Jan 1 1989 unsit.shar unsit will decompress .sit.bin (MacBinary Stuffit files) I am enclosing a new version of unsit that Allen sent me to allow input from MacBinary files. Previously, it was only possible to input from macput/macget formatted files. The new version also adds compatiblity with Stuffit 1.5.1 and the new HMF folder scheme. At present, unsit can only output files in macput/macget format, but the author Allan Weber (weber%brand.usc.edu@oberon.usc.edu) said that he may add the option to output directly to MacBinary format. Files in: *.sit.bin Files out: foo.rsrc, foo.data, foo.info -rw-r--r-- 1 macmod info-mac 4184 Jan 1 1989 macbinary.shar macbinary (macbin) converts macput/macget type files to MacBinary files. This allows easy downloading with progams such as Kermit or ZTerm. macbin does NOT support wildcards, so this part of the conversion must be done manually. Files in: foo.rsrc, foo.data, foo.info Files out: foo.bin (Unstuffed and in Binary format) The combination of programs works very well and is extremely fast on our vax, especially when comparied to Stuffit's performance on a Plus. Since this process requires the use of three different programs, I'm writing a shell script to tie everything together. When I get it running, I'll send it along too. I'm including a new version of unsit that reads macbinary files. Jeff | RIT VAX/VMS Systems: | Jeff Wasilko | RIT Ultrix Systems: | |BITNET: jjw7384@ritvax+----------------------+INET:jjw7384@ultb.isc.rit.edu| |UUCP: {psuvax1, mcvax}!ritvax.bitnet!JJW7384 +___UUCP:jjw7384@ultb.UUCP____+ |INTERNET: jjw7384@isc.rit.edu |'claimer: No one cares. | [Archived as /info-mac/unix/unsit-15.shar; 40K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 90 4:20:55 PDT From: chaffee%reed.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: BeepShuffle INIT v0.3 BeepShuffle is a simple INIT that plays a random sound instead of the system beep. No longer do you have to go to the Control Panel when you get bored with your current beep; BeepShuffle automatically picks and plays a sound >From among the currently installed 'snd ' resources. It works with Suitcase and MasterJuggler, too. To install, drag it into your system folder and reboot. It requires System 6.0 or greater (and won't install itself otherwise). Version 0.2 (1/10/90) is an improvement on the original BeepShuffle, which was distributed last summer with virtually no documentation. This version includes a startup icon, fixes a bug which caused the same sequence of sounds to be played each time, and implements "clean" head patching. (This version, 0.3, is ever so slightly cleaner.) As before, full Think C source code is included -- have fun writing your own INITs and patches! Alex Chaffee chaffee@reed.UUCP Reed College, Portland OR 97202 ____________________ [Archived as /info-mac/sound/programs/beepshuffle-03.hqx; 19K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 08:57:28 EST From: Padmanabhan Anandan <anandan-padmanabhan@YALE.EDU> Subject: CMS harddisk problem I wonder if anyone can help me with the following problem. I have a CMS (Pro-80-II-i) harddisk in my MacII. Recently when I tried to run VIREX (booted the system with the virex as the startup disk) the harddisk icon did not show up. When I ran the CMS disk-repair utility in order to fix it, it bombed. Subsequently, the only way I can bring the harddisk icon to show is to start the system with another system disk, run a Mac supplied disk-repair program. This allows me to specify the harddisk to be repaired (incidentally, the repair program reports that the harddisk needs no repairs), and the icon becomes visible when I quit the disk repair program. However, the system loaded is still from the startup system disk. In order to "transfer control" to the harddisk, I also have to run the disk repair program on my harddisk. Any ideas, help, suggestions? Please reply via e-mail to anandan@cs.yale.edu Thanks, -- anandan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 08:21:55 CET From: "Willem N. Ellis" <A429WILL%HASARA11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: digital calliper Quite some time ago I posted a a question to the Mac-Info circle to ask for help in finding information about the availability of a digital calliper for the Macintosh. I had some rumour about such an instrument for the IBM-world. I got some replies assuring me that if the thing would have a RS-232-C connection, it wouldnUt be problematic to connect it it a Macintosh (something which my dealer did not completely agree with). Most replies were questions to relay the information that I could gather. The most valuable information came from Paulo A. Buckup, an ichthyologist of Ann Arbor. Unfortunately, he is working with an IBM-compatible, and not familiar with the Macintosh world. He suggested me two North American firms. I wrote to both of them, but I received no reply. (This demonstrates a rather normal attitude of American firms to potential customers abroad). Yet, I would think that the information Paulo gave me could be of interest at least to American people, and I therefore give below a slightly condensed rendering of what Paulo wrote me. First the interfaces: 1) The Fowler RS-232-C Economy Interface. This is one of the cheapest options (but you have to be careful to press the buttons in the correct order when you turn it on, or you might enther the wrong mode). It is available from Fred. V. Fowler Co., Inc., 66 Rowe Street, P.O. Box 299, Newton, MA 02166 (Phone: (617) 332-7004, Fax: (617) 332-4137, Telex: 92-2435, cable: Precision-Auburndale.) From their catalogue 1988 the following data could be cited: Order # 54-111-000 Interface: $195 Order # 54-115-000 Cable to calliper: $ 12 If you use this interface you will need a 9V adapter (costs about $10 in a supermarker), and a cable to connect the interface to the computer. 2) The Fowler Sylvac Computer Interface. This interface comes with everything included (except of course the calliper), including cables to connect it to your computer. It has rechargable batteries, that can run for 40 hours without connecting to AC current. It even has a pedal, so that you donUt have to move your thumb to press the button in the calliper. In the Fowler 1988 catalogue it is listed as Order # 54-118-000: $ 360 3) The Limnoterra RS0-232 Digital Calliper. It was made by Limnoterra, 275 Lancaster Street West, Kitchener Ontario, Canada N2H 4V2 (phone: (519) 579-3860). They have callipers that are 15 cm, 20 cm, and 30 cm long. They seem to be very expensive. There are several callipers that will work with the interfaces listed in (1) and (2) above. The one that I use (and like a lot!) is the 150 mm from the Ultra-Cal II Series. It has a resolution of 0.01 mm! In the Fowler 1988 catalogue it appears as Order # 54-100-006: $ 146.00 Willem N. Ellis Institute of Taxonomic Zoology, dept. Entomology Plantage Middenlaan 64 1018 DH Amsterdam bitnet: a429will@hasara11 internet: Willem_N_Ellis@sara.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 09:22 EDT From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen) Subject: Downloading in background. Bill Cockayne writes: > My roomate said that he read that NinjaTerm would allow a person to run >downloads while going off to another program (ie, MultiTasking). >One problem is that the manual is not written in english. > My question is does it allow background up/downloads? > > Is there any program that will allow this? > Why isn't this a big deal on the Macs, is there some hardware spec that >doesn't allow for background tasks? > If it is possible, my roommate and I will look into writing a program >that will allow background downloads under Kermit, Xmodem, and MacBinary. > >[Moderator's Note: What about MultiFinder and VersaTerm or MicroPhone? -- Jon] I download ALL THE TIME in the background using Kermit 0.9(40) and MultiFinder. It works great!!! :) AppleLink can also download in the background under MultiFinder, as I'm sure other programs that are MultiFinder friendly can. The Mac (running MultiFinder) is far more "multitasking" than most people give it credit for. Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer specialist Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346 AppleLink - U0523 BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 09:11 CST From: PFTERRY@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Dvorak utils This file contains a cdev, fkey, and several startup files that allow you to toggle between the regular QWERTY keyboard layout and the Dvorak keyboard layout. I have been using it on a Mac IIx running system 6.04 without any problems. [Archived as /info-mac/cdev/qwerty-to-dvorak.hqx; 40K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 20:32:33 EST From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez) Subject: Following cdev The following is a control panel device that replaces Apple's CDEF, scroll bars with that of the NeXT computer's. Downloaded from America Online. Use StuffIt 1.5.1 to decode (UnBinHex) and decompress (UnStuffIt). Enjoy! willi [Archived as /info-mac/cdev/next-scroll-bars.hqx; 42K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 10:38:01 EST From: ELOISE%MAINE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Eloise Kleban) Subject: FOTRAN compiler I recommend Language Systems FORTRAN. Their address is Lanuage Systems Corp., 441-B Carlisle Drive, Herndon, VA 22070, USA. Phone (703)478-0181 (note USA east coast time 10-6pm). Their compiler works well, support is good and the upgrade policy is reasonable. Eloise Kleban BITNET: ELOISE@MAINE Computing Center INTERNET: ELOISE@MAINE.MAINE.EDU University of Maine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 16:26:15 PST From: 6500stom%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Josh Pritikin) Subject: Grouper INIT 1.0 Grouper INIT 1.0 Copyright 1990 Josh Pritikin All rights reserved. Freeware. Grouper is an INIT document that adds extra behavior to window dragging. If you hold down shift while you drag a window you will be able to drag windows in groups. This little INIT was inspired by an article in MacTutor (v6, n1), in which they did roughly the same thing with an FKEY. I don't like FKEYs txt much so I decided the idea would make a neat trap patch. Where You Can Reach Me >From Address To ------------------------------------------------------- Internet 6500stom@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu AppleLink 6500stom%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu@DASNET# CIS >INTERNET:6500stom%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu GEnie J.Pritikin [Archived as /info-mac/init/grouper.hqx; 9K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 00:39:45 CST From: C277839%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: help w/ftp filenames I've never had any trouble GETing files from info-mac, but I have tried to get some files from other ftp sites with mixed success. The case that prompts me to write is this: Last night I tried to GET VolumeImage from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu as was posted here about a month ago. When I typed GET VolumeImage0.63(c).hqx the host would return with Usage: filename <localname> <(replace)> or something similar. Obviously it was confused by the (c) in the name, but it would not recognize any variation on the filename, saying "no such file or directory" What trick am I not aware of? I have had this trouble at a few other ftp sites so I thought it might be of general interest. Thanks so much. ========================================================================= | Ian Sights | c277839 at UMCVMB.missouri.edu | ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1990 10:45:51 PDT From: jfmjfm@ruddles.sprl.umich.edu (John F. Mansfield) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #32 Margret Buckley <buckley@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> asked about people having mouse freezing problems on the IIci. I have recently got a IIci and have found that I get mouse freezes and random crashes in both Microsoft Word (4) and Hypercard (1.2.5). In Word the symptoms of the crash are: select menu item Open... and the system crashes with a variety of errors, most frequently number 88. This also happens in Hypercard when I access a button that I have forgotten to redefine that is hard-coded to point to a particular stack on my hard disk. This should give a dialog box asking where the stack I am trying open resides, but it doesnt, I get error 88 and quite often have to reboot the machine. Note also that Moire doesnt work when you are using MPW Fortran 2.0, Fortran will compile once and then lock up the second time and you will have to restart MPW to recover. I have no explanations for these observations, I havent had the machine long enough to detemine whether it is the machine or just some of my inits doing illegal things. John Mansfield, North Campus Electron Microbeam Analysis Laboratory, University of Michigan, 2455 Hayward, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-2143. (313) 936-3352 jfmjfm@ruddles.sprl.umich.edu or John_Mansfield@um.cc.umich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 90 14:02:45 EST From: phssra@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson) Subject: LaserLondon Font This is a shareware laser font based on the London font. It comes with several sizes of bitmaps as well (10, 12, 18, 24). * * ** Scott Robert Anderson gatech!emoryu1!phssra * * * ** phssra@unix.cc.emory.edu phssra@emoryu1.bitnet * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [Archived as /info-mac/font/laser-london.hqx; 43K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 90 16:42:07 -0800 From: Louis M. McDonald <louis@aerospace.aero.org> Subject: LaserPrep for non-Apple LaserWriter Printers This stuffed and binhex'ed file contains 3 versions of Apple's LaserPrep that have been modified to work on non-Apple LaserWriter printers. LaserPrep is the PostScript dictionary used by most Macintosh applications when printing to a LaserWriter. These 3 versions were captured using the Command-F key combination and then modified (oh so slightly) so that Macintosh PostScript files could be successfully printed on non-LaserWriter printers. Background ========== There have been many requests for such versions of LaserPrep. My first experience was trying to get Mac PostScript files to print on a Data Products printer (as part of a TeX document). We were using a DVI to PostScript program from Arbortext, that included a version of LaserPrep modified by Jim Stuckey (forgive me if I have the name wrong). The problem was that the version they gave was an older version than we needed. Following the changes that Jim made, I was able to modify LaserPrep versions 40, 65 and 68 so they would work on the Data Products printer. In addition, the Mac Postscript would also print on a DEC LN03R and LPS40. Are these REAL LaserPrep files? ============================= These are the real LaserPrep files from the Macintosh, with a few lines commented out. The lines commented out usually dealt with microcode and accessing/changing the system dictionary (more or less). I did not add code, or modify code. I just COMMENTED OUT code. What next? ========== I will be working on getting version 70 of LaserPrep to work on non-Apple printers. When I am able to test this, I will release this also. What printers has it been tested on? ================================= Data Products, DEC LN03R, DEC LPS40, Apple Laserwriter (had to make sure it still worked on the preferred machine), and QMS (I have been told) I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has successfully used these files on other PostScript printers. We will be trying this shortly on an IBM PostScript printer (driver). SPECIAL NOTE ============= Please leave the Apple Computer copyright in the file, and my name (so that questions/problems can be sent to me) Louis McDonald The Aerospace Corporation 213-336-8914 louis@aerospace.aero.org [Archived as /info-mac/util/non-apple-laser-prep.hqx; 63K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 90 23:27:01 EST From: rpugh%galaxy@BLACKBIRD.AFIT.AF.MIL (Robert D. Pugh) Subject: MacBooz 2.0 MacBooz 2.0 MacBooz is a program written by Michael Niehaus which allows you to "un-zoo" archives which have been assembled using the "zoo" file compression program. The output text files still have the Unix "new-line" end of line marker instead of the Mac "line feed" EOL. There is a utility on the conversion menu which will prompt you for a filename, read the file, replace the new-lines with line- feeds, and store the result in another file you specify. This is an especially handy utility for those who can use zoo to compress mainframe files before transferring them to their Macs. Unfortunately, this program dosen't "zoo" Mac files, it only "un-zoos" Unix files. Bob Pugh rpugh@galaxy.afit.af.mil [Archived as /info-mac/util/macbooz-20.hqx; 17K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 12:11:10 EST From: bas@sun.chem.wayne.edu (Barry A. Schoenfelner) Subject: Modems I would like to pick the brains of the info-mac regulars on a few questions. 1. I work in an area that has a large LocalTalk network that is bridged to an ethernet via a Kinetics FastPath 2. We want to add 5 more Macs in the lab and not load the main LocalTalk net so we purchased the Shiva NetBridge, however we can't reach the computers on the ethernet with NCSA Telnet 2.3. The people who operate the ethernet are thinking of upgrading to a FastPath 4 which is supposed to take care of that problem. Are there any known problems with being one or two zones away from a FastPath 4 and using Telnet to reach the ethernet machines? 2. We also anticipate needing access to the net from a remote site via phone lines. To bridge to a remote net we purchased a Shiva TeleBridge, mistakenly thinking that it had a modem built-in like the NetModem, alas this is not so. Now I am looking for a good high speed modem to use with the TeleBridge to implement the remote network tie-in and allow single user dial-in. Does any one have an opinion on good modems that will work well in this configuration? I have read the July 1989 issue of MacWorld on high-speed modems, but would still like some testimonials. Feedback on modem models, good prices and where to purchase would be appreciated. Any opinion from someone who has used the TeleBridge in the manner I described would be greatly appreciated. 3. My boss is ordering a Macintosh portable with the internal modem and would like to dial into the network while away on trips. He would like to be able to pass files to his secretary with Public Folder and send messages with Broadcast. What kind of error correction and data compression techniques does this modem use? I would like the high speed modem to be compatable with the modem in the portable. 4. Can anyone give testimonials for a good, but inexpensive, 2400 bps modem that implements error correction and data compression? I would like to purchase one for my personal use and be able to tie in via the TeleBridge. My own computer is an SE/30. I realize that most of you out there are meek and mild and require much prodding to get an opinion out (ho ho), but I would really appreciate both the positive and the flaming comments. Thanks, Barry Schoenfelner bas@sun.chem.wayne.edu (35.197.178.5) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 90 01:27:14 EST From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez) Subject: Moire 3.02.sit.hqx This is verison 3.02 of Moire cdev. Changes from previous versions are bug fixes. For those who don't know what it is: "...when the Mac is left inactive the screen will be darkened (to prevent the screen image from burning into the phosphor of the CRT) and a pretty Moire pattern will appear. To turn off the screensaver when it is activated, move your mouse." UnBinHex (Decode) with Stuffit 1.51 to remove any headers and to UnStuffIt (decompress). Enjoy! Willi [Archived as /info-mac/cdev/moire-302.hqx; 87K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 90 19:20:13 +0100 From: Ingemar Ragnemalm <ingemar@isy.liu.se> Subject: Novice Mac User- In comp.sys.mac.digest you write: >Concerned about virus. How does one avoid such a calamity? I bought my Mac >used and sure enough there was a virus crawling around. Got it out with a >virus software package, but how does one avoid this in the future? Most viruses are stopped with Vaccine. If you don't want to bother too much about your virus protection, get Vaccine (vers 1.0.1) and put it in your syetem folder. GateKeeper is safer, but requires customization. Also, you should have some protection from the newest disease, the "WDEF virus" which is not stopped by Vaccine. Eradicat'em, KillWDEF or GateKeeper Aid will help. Sorry, I don't seem to have them around, only GateKeeper. -- Ingemar Ragnemalm Dept. of Electrical Engineering ...!uunet!mcvax!enea!rainier!ingemar .. University of Linkoping, Sweden ingemar@isy.liu.se ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 12:12:05-0100 From: Lars Gislen <larsg@thep.lu.se> Subject: Planet Program PLANET application. This application computes the coordinates of the planets visible to the naked eye, the sun and the moon for any time and any place on earth. A special feature makes it possible to investigate eclipses and actually view an eclipse from a specific point on earth. For total solar eclipses the path of totality is computed and displayed on a world map. The program is shareware. The compressed program package includes a full documentation, two applications, one for the Plus and one for MacII/ SE/30. I am grateful for comments on the application. Lars Gislen, Department of theoretical physics LUND UNIVERSITY, SWEDEN. THEPLG@SELD52.BITNET larsg@thep.lu.se [Archived as /info-mac/app/planet.hqx; 90K] ------------------------------ Date: 19 Feb 90 09:39 +0000 From: DURTSCHIR%AC%CSC@csc.isu.edu Subject: Red Ryder Bashing Howdy folks, After reading a few articles on info-mac that pretty seriously bashed Red Ryder, I felt that I just had to respond in it's defense. I will agree that RR is ugly and that it is hard to remember which menu one needs to pull down for which software switch desired. I have not experienced the "buggs" referred to in previous articles. In my experience, RR performes _all_ of the basic functions that I need with no problems with the exception of HOST mode which I am still working on getting running properly. The way I look at it, I'm willing to put up with a slightly awkward user interface for the very reasonable price of about $50. compared to around $200. for Microphone (which I have not used). For me, price is a major consideration (I'm so tight that when I pass gass, only dogs can hear) and I will gladly pay the least possible price for something that will do the basic functions that I require. If you have the bucks to go with something more expensive than RR, more power to you. Oh, by the way, does anyone know what I need to do to upgrade to White Knight? Are there significant advantages over RR? I have nothing to do with FreeSoft and this is my only opinion. Bye for now Ralph Durtschi, Electronics Dept at ISU Vo-Tech. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 90 17:31:05 CST From: Michael Hanrahan <C09615MH%WUVMD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Using Lists in dialogs Someone recently asked about how to use a list (via the List Manager) within a dialog. Here are two quick routines which illustrate the mechanics of creating, handling events within, and disposing of a list. Although the routines don't *do* anything with the list, they illustrate how to determine when something has been selected from a list and how to insure the display of the list is maintained during updates, etc. One question I have: I've managed to get a list displayed and process selections from the list, but for some reason, the List/Control Manager will not activate the vertical scroll bar I requested. It draws it, it's just inactive even with six items in a window big enough for four. Any clues as to what else might need to be done? It is my understanding that the List Manager should take care of actually supporting the scroll bars - all you have to do is request them. Thanks... Michael Hanrahan Educational Computing Services Washington University St. Louis, MO 63130 [Archived as /info-mac/source/pascal/lists-in-dialogs.txt; 7K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 90 13:12:30 PST From: jln@acns.nwu.edu Subject: Virus Encyclopedia Here's a new version of Henry Schmitt's "Virus Encyclopedia" Hypercard stack for info-mac and comp.binaries.mac. It is dated 1/4/90, and includes updated information on the WDEF virus and recent nVIR clones. I'm posting this on behalf of the author, who does not have access to the Internet. John Norstad [Archived as /info-mac/hypercard/virus-encyclopedia.hqx; 77K] ------------------------------ Date: 19 Feb 90 11:39:55 From: Robert.H.Gross@mac.dartmouth.edu Subject: Where did this file come from? \\\\\\\ In info-Mac V8#33, Chris Khoury asks: Where did this file come from? I was looking thru my Hard Disk today with Disk Tools II (DA) and noticed a file: _(A2002646)_ on my HD, it's file attributes were No Copy and Invisibly the File Type is LISA and the Creator is DALE. It was created on 9/2/02 and it is 2.5K. Anybody know what this is? \\\\\\\\ This file is the result of the Softguard copy protection scheme. The copy protection notes the location of bad sectors on the HD and when your protected application is installed, the location of the newly installed application **relative to the bad sectors** is stored in this file. Each time the application is launced, it checks this file to see if it is still on the same disk. Softguard feels that this is a better alternative than writing weird things to the disk surface. Don't remove the file if you want to keep your copy protected applications properly installed. Bob Gross ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************