[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V8 #44

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (03/05/90)

Info-Mac Digest             Sun,  4 Mar 90       Volume 8 : Issue  44 

Today's Topics:
                              Apple FTP
                     File Re-assembly & Decoding
            Forwarded: Returned mail: Service unavailable
                                 help
                         Hunt For Red October
                        Info-Mac Digest V8 #39
                 Info-Mac Digest V8 #39 (_Launch 2.0)
                        Laser printer question
                       low-cost printer sharing
                         Mac Keyboard Mapping
                    MacUser's shiny 80 Meg drives
                       More on floptical disks
                            Novell Servers
                   PC MacTerm with non-Hayes modems
                        VAX AS MAC FILESERVER
                        Virus Things and Such

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 12:20:56 -0800
From: Mark B. Johnson <mjohnson@apple.com>
Subject: Apple FTP

Now includes the movable modal wdef and a fix to the Human Interface
Q & A digest...

--        0 Feb 26 18:54 ./help/dir-files-recent
-r     3255 Feb 26 18:46 ./README
-r     4215 Feb 26 18:42 ./human.interface/goodies/movable-modal-wdef.hqx
-r    40018 Feb 26 15:23 ./human.interface/qa/hi-digest-1.txt
-r     4501 Feb 26 13:45 ./press/pr0226-peat-marwick-alliance.txt
-r     1838 Feb 26 13:44 ./press/pr0226-interim-courseware-exchange.txt
-r     1379 Feb 23 09:17 ./press/pr0220-apple-lauds-utah.txt
-r    13278 Feb 22 12:09 ./human.interface/notes/hin.001.txt
-r    13769 Feb 22 12:08 ./human.interface/notes/hin.006.txt
-r     8280 Feb 22 10:16 ./human.interface/notes/hin.005.txt
-r     4352 Feb 22 10:16 ./human.interface/notes/hin.004.txt
-r     3607 Feb 22 10:16 ./human.interface/notes/hin.003.txt
-r     9092 Feb 22 10:15 ./human.interface/notes/hin.002.txt
-r     3088 Feb 22 10:13 ./human.interface/notes/hin.000.txt
-r    91929 Feb 22 09:07 ./aii/tools/compression/shrinkit21.bsc
-r     8136 Feb 22 08:14 ./aii/tools/compression/binscii.exe
-r     3050 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0222-apple-lowers-prices.txt
-r     2509 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0221-apple-reduces-workforce
-r     4935 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0212-teacher-nominations.txt
-r     2448 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0129-unalakleet-teachers-honored.txt
-r     2002 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0129-tacoma-teacher-wins.txt
-r     2419 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0129-portland-teacher-wins.txt
-r     2576 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0129-livermore-teacher-wins.txt
-r     2065 Feb 22 08:09 ./press/pr0129-ferndale-teacher-wins.txt
-r     2621 Feb 22 08:08 ./press/pr0129-fair-oaks-teacher-wins.txt
-r     2387 Feb 22 08:08 ./press/pr0129-eugene-teacher-wins.txt
-r     2346 Feb 22 08:08 ./press/pr0129-denver-teacher-wins.txt
-r   140642 Feb 21 17:43 ./mac/tn/tn-indices-90-02.hqx
-r    36659 Feb 21 17:32 ./mac/tn/tn-about-90-02.hqx
-r     6632 Feb 21 17:30 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-268.hqx
-r     5777 Feb 21 17:30 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-267.hqx
-r    23288 Feb 21 17:30 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-266.hqx
-r    26783 Feb 21 17:27 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-265.hqx
-r     6508 Feb 21 17:25 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-264.hqx
-r    15368 Feb 21 17:24 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-263.hqx
-r     4237 Feb 21 17:23 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-262.hqx
-r    22602 Feb 21 17:23 ./mac/tn/tn.251.300/tn-254.hqx
-r    22427 Feb 21 17:20 ./mac/tn/tn.201.250/tn-231.hqx
-r    25821 Feb 21 17:18 ./mac/tn/tn.201.250/tn-206.hqx
-r    13176 Feb 21 17:16 ./mac/tn/tn.151.200/tn-192.hqx
-r     5779 Feb 21 17:15 ./mac/tn/tn.101.150/tn-144.hqx
-r    28376 Feb 21 17:14 ./mac/tn/tn.101.150/tn-110.hqx
-r    14286 Feb 21 17:12 ./mac/tn/tn.051.100/tn-079.hqx
-r   138763 Feb 21 17:10 ./aii/tools/dynamo/mpw-dynamo-2-1.hqx
-r   475180 Feb 21 11:40 ./mac/tn/tn.latest.release/tn-90-02.hqx
-r   237780 Feb 20 21:21 ./mac/tn/tn.bundles/tn.251.300.hqx
-r   587383 Feb 20 21:14 ./mac/tn/tn.bundles/tn.201.250.hqx
-r   618428 Feb 20 20:52 ./mac/tn/tn.bundles/tn.151.200.hqx
-r   437027 Feb 20 20:28 ./mac/tn/tn.bundles/tn.101.150.hqx
-r   430766 Feb 20 20:14 ./mac/tn/tn.bundles/tn.051.100.hqx
-r   281196 Feb 20 19:58 ./mac/tn/tn.bundles/tn.001.050.hqx
-r     5621 Feb 20 10:31 ./press/pr0219-cd-service-program.txt
-r   418360 Feb 20 00:10 ./mac/stacks/serial-port-toolkit-2-6.hqx
-r    37353 Feb 19 22:30 ./aii/tn/tn.index.90.01
-r    17029 Feb 19 22:29 ./aii/tn/tn.000.about.90.01
-r     5874 Feb 19 22:28 ./aii/tn/pdos/tn.pdos.026
-r    21897 Feb 19 22:27 ./aii/tn/pdos/tn.pdos.021
-r     1889 Feb 19 22:26 ./aii/tn/misc/tn.misc.015
-r    12600 Feb 19 22:25 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.077
-r     5004 Feb 19 22:24 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.076
-r    10590 Feb 19 22:24 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.075
-r    15006 Feb 19 22:24 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.025
-r    13827 Feb 19 22:23 ./aii/tn/iigs/tn.iigs.012
-r     1780 Feb 19 22:22 ./aii/tn/gsos/tn.gsos.010
-r     2346 Feb 19 22:22 ./aii/tn/gsos/tn.gsos.009
-r     3208 Feb 19 22:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.d8.xxxx
-r     2436 Feb 19 22:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.d7.xxxx
-r     2209 Feb 19 22:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.d6.xxxx
-r     2538 Feb 19 22:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.d5.xxxx
-r    15306 Feb 19 22:18 ./aii/ftn/ftn.c7.xxxx
-r    17846 Feb 19 22:17 ./aii/ftn/ftn.about.90.01
-r     5082 Feb 18 21:14 ./aii/tools/compression/binscii.bsc
-r     3151 Feb 16 09:01 ./press/pr0215-honeywell-gao.txt
-r    58414 Feb 14 01:13 ./mac/tools/board-id-registration.hqx

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 90 00:05 EST
From: "NAME L.G. LEDUC" <F1400004%LAUVAX01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: File Re-assembly & Decoding

Does anyone know why BinHex files re-assembled with United 2.2 and ultimately
decoded with Stuffit 1.51 give the following error message under Stuffit:
"a disk related error (unexpected EOF) has prevented the operation from
concluding".  For some reason, I simply can't get those segmented files
re-assembled and decoded properly.  Can someone please help me?

Leo G. Leduc
Laurentian University
Ontario, CAN

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 16:59:00 est
From: Bruce_Kahn@dgc.ceo.dg.com
Subject: Forwarded: Returned mail: Service unavailable

CEO comments:
>From: Bruce Kahn:DGC
Date: ## 02/27/90 16:53 ##
  Pls chop off this reject flak...
 

CEO summary:
>From: MAILER-DAEMON:webo-smtp
Date: ## 02/27/90 16:00 ##
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 13:34:44 est
>From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>
Reply-To: <MAILER-DAEMON>
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
To: KAHN@VOID.MCEO.DG.COM

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>From: Bruce_Kahn@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM
To: Info-Mac@VOID.MCEO.DG.COM
Subject: Question on Controls/Lists in Dialog Boxes
X-Ceo_Options: Short_message

CEO summary:
  Being new to the mac I have a lot to learn about the way things can 
be done.  What I would like to be able to do with my program is have 
the user enter a list of items they wish to display/print.  After 
they have entered all they want, they should be able to change the 
list at will before continuing; something like the selection boxes on 
DAMover or Apple File Exchange.  Ive used ResEdit to peek at AFE and 
other programs only to find that they use UserItems in their DLOGs.  
These, currently, are beyond me.  Can someone provide some sort of 
sample on creating such lists/controls for my own DLOGs or tell me 
where I may find something like that?  Thanks in advance.
 
                                   Bruce (KAHN@ADAM.DG.COM)

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 20:34 PST
From: JWILSON@gray.cerritos.edu
Subject: help

Jack Wilson
Computer Services
Cerritos College
11110 Alondra Blvd.
Norwalk, CA  90650
(213)860-2451
internet: jwilson@cerritos.edu

I need some help downloading Macintosh applications. I am using anonymous FTP
to get the files to our VAX - no problem. I am using Kermit 0.9(40)
to transfer them from our VAX down to our Macintosh. I have determined that if
the extension of the file is "HQX", the file must be run through BinHex 4.0.
I tried doing that on GateKeeper-111.hqx and got a file with a "SIT" extension,
which I see from documentation on your system must then be run through Stuffit.

I do not have Stuffit, but I see in UTIL there are Stuffit files (all with HQX
extensions). Can I download them, run them through BinHex and then use them?

As you can see, this is new to me.

I would like to get the most recent version of Kermit running here at Cerritos
College. I have recently had to battle viruses, so I would also like to get
GateKeeper up and running. We have Disinfectant 1.6 and Vaccine up now.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. If you have
documentation which covers my needs, point me at it and I'll read through it.
At this point things are a bit overwhelming...

Jack Wilson

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 90 00:10:43 EDT
From: "Scott Cherkofsky (Crusader)" <LE865C%GWUVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Hunt For Red October

Hello all you Clancy fans!   I have just gotten the game Hunt For Red October
and I was wondering how you go about winning the darn thing!  I have no idea
what to do, everything I do do ends up getting me in trouble with the ruskies
I am at my wits end...  Can anyone help me??

Thanx for the help (in advance)  This is Frustrating!!!

__________________________________________________________ Scott Cherkofsky
  "...ROUS'S.  Rodents Of Unusual         CRUSADER      STORM FRONT
   Size??  (PAUSE)  I don't think         BLOOD_BOWL    KHORNE
   they even exist" - PRINCESS BRIDE      CRU           BLOOD
____________________________________________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 19:01 CDT
From: <JAG8B4E1%PANAM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #39

Sorry to clutter the info-mac digest with my letter, but I'm hoping that
someone could help me with some information.  I'm relatively new to the
Mac world and find just about everything I run into to be an interesting
experience...so please excuse my lack of familiarity.

   I recently ran across a DA named Twelve-C tm which is a simulated
Hewlett Packard calculator (model 12C), which is the business calculator
that they produce.  It is true to the actual calculator in just about all
of its functions...(I'm not able to check them all since I am unfamiliar
with most of the business functions).  My question is...are there any other
DA's of their other models, more specifically the 11C or *28S*(the
scientific calculators).  If so, where are they available? Are they
*freeware* or shareware or just too expensive?

  If is freeware or shareware, and someone can show me how, I would
gladly send in the Twelve-C tm DA to be archived.  You can respond to me
directly to save the net some trouble and I can summarize it later.

     Looking to the future....
      Joel A. Garza
      University of Texas - Pan American

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 20:14:31 -0500 (EST)
From: "Michael A. Libes" <ml10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #39 (_Launch 2.0)

There are a few nasty bugs which have been discovered in _Launch 2.0:

Although the Finder appears in the SFGetFile Dialog box, installing the
Finder will cause _Launch to crash.

When installing applications, _Launch may run out of memory.  It is
recommended that the _Launch memory partition be increased to 64K while
installing applications, and changing icons.

When changing icons, if the SFGetFile Dialog box overlaps the _Launch
window, the program will crash.

Updating the window may take a long time.  Using the disk cache will
significantly decrease the update time.

So far these are the only known problems.  If you avoid these
circumstances, you should not have any problems.

Enjoy.

        - Lunarmobiscuit

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1990 16:55:50 PST
From: Edward A. Feigenbaum <eaf@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Subject: Laser printer question

I want to buy a laser printer with postscript capability. Is there any
reasonable alternative to Apple's Laserwriter II product? By that I mean:
anything less expensive?

Thanks,

Ed Feigenbaum

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 16:07:22 EST
From: stanell@duphy3.drexel.edu (Martin Stanell)
Subject: low-cost printer sharing

I'm trying to find a low-cost hardware/software solution to the following 
problem:

	We have a Laserwriter which we want to be shared by a 
VAXstation, two Macintoshes and an IBM PS/2 model 80.  The Macs and the 
Laserwriter are LocalTalked together, of course, but if we want to print 
>From the VAX, we have to shut down the printer and change the DIP-switch 
settings so that it uses the RS-232 serial port.  Yes, it's a pain.

	There's no shortage of good products which make such printer 
sharing possible (most notably PacerLink and PacerPrint, around $3K, or 
AsyncServer, which reqires a $2.5K FastPath box).  We're willing to invest 
in an Ethernet card for the PS/2 (perhaps there exists one with a LocalTalk 
port as well?).  Is there a way to accomplish this sharing for a more 
reasonable amount of money?  Any suggestions are thoroughly appreciated.

Martin Stanell

BITNET:		stanell@duphy
INTERNET:	stanell@duphy3.drexel.edu	(129.25.1.102)
USMAIL:		Dept. of Physics & Atmospheric Science, Drexel Univ.
		32nd & Chestnut Streets
		Philadelphia, PA 19104
phone:		(215)895-6957, -2720

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 90 16:44:49 EST
From: "Gregory E. Gilbert" <C0195%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Mac Keyboard Mapping

Can some please tell me how I can print the ASCII 202 character (Hex CA)
on a Mac.  For reference see p. 247 of Inside Mac, Volume 1.

The character looks something like...    |______|, kind of a lazy left
bracket. Thaks much.  Regards,

                                                Greg.

Postal address: Gregory E. Gilbert
                Computer Services Division
                University of South Carolina
                Columbia, South Carolina   USA   29208
                (803) 777-6015

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 21:26:21 GMT
From: Darrell Skinner <PMIDS%FRPOLY11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MacUser's shiny 80 Meg drives

    I can't stand it!  In MacUser's Feb "Buyer's Guide" to external hard
drives, they say in "the Bottom Line" that "The best picks for retail
purchases include the Apple Hard Disk 80SC ... Though admittedly expensive,
Apple hard drives are simply the best-designed and -built systems available."
But if you look at the details, the Apple 80SC has "Cons: Expensive. Runs
warm. Noisy. 90-day warranty."  Indeed.  MacUser selected 18 "finalists"
according to a strange procedure that permits them to "highlight as many
vendor's drives as possible" (i.e., sell the most ads possible?) ... among
the 18 "finalists", the Apple 80SC tied for honors as the noisiest and was
one of the warmest.  MacUser notes in the detailed tables that the Apple 80SC
uses an "outdated Quantum mechanism", and rates it as fifth from the bottom
out of 25 80 Meg drives according to its Diskbasher benchmarking software.
And of course the Apple drive has the shortest warranty, 3 months compared to
a year, 2 years, even 5 years.

    So how did the Apple disk get picked as a winner in the hot 80 Meg
category?  A little Apple polishing, maybe?  I've thought MacUser has
published some good lab tests, but when it comes to their editorial
"judgement" ...


Darrell Skinner / PMIDS@FRPOLY11.BITNET / Ecole Polytechnique / France

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 21:33:12 GMT
From: Darrell Skinner <PMIDS%FRPOLY11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: More on floptical disks

    Jurgen Botz, JurgenB@UMass.bitnet, recently wrote about "floptical"
drives(Info-Mac V8 #34, 9 Feb 90).
> I just got more information regarding the 3.5" 20MB floptical drive ...

    To add a little info (and maybe some mis-info):  Mirror Technologies
(800-654-5294, 612-633-4450), a direct-sales Mac hardware company, advertises
a 20 Meg floptical drive for $827, using Kodak technology.  Jasmine markets
(or did, it is not in their most recent ads) a similar drive.  Verbatim
markets the Kodak drive (at least, here in France).  Macworld reviewed 10 and
20 Meg floptical drives (p.119, July 89), and liked the Jasmine best of the
flopticals.  I think some of these drives use 4" diskettes, not 3.5", so not
all could handle PC diskettes.

    Who manufactures the floptical drive machanisms?  Kodak, for one (though
I seem to remember that Insite and Kodak technology is the same, or at least
of was originally).  Info has been posted to this digest about Briar
Technology, San Jose, California (also a licensee of Insite?).  There are
20Meg and 40Meg models.  I noticed a full page ad in Byte a couple of months
ago by a German company offering Kodak 40 Meg 3.5" SCSI floptical drives
capable of reading/writig PC diskettes ($600 or so? OEM quantity prices).

   The original floptical drive is the 10 Meg Kodak drive (on the market,
according to the MacWorld survey; not, according to an old network posting).
There were problems reported with flawed media, or with software unable to
lock out bad sectors.  Has this problem been solved?  Here Verbatim recently
changed their drive software--because of problems?

    Originally, the diskettes were supposed to cost $10 or $20 each.  But
according to the MacWorld survey, they are more like $90, or 3 for $177 from
Mirror technologies.  I don't see much of an advantage for floptical drives
over removable hard drives based on the Syquest 40 (alias 44) Meg mechanism.
With the right software flopticals can read/write PC diskettes, and they
can't experience head crashes.  But the Syquest removables are 2 or 3 times,
faster media cost is comparable (down to $90/40Meg cartridge), the drives can
actually be cheaper than the floptical drives ($80 less at Mirror Techno-
logies), and I've read few complaints about reliability.  I wish manufacturers
would all install 20 Meg floppies and drive the price down, but until then ...


Darrell Skinner / PMIDS@FRPOLY11.BITNET / Ecole Polytechnique / France

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Date: TUE, 27 Feb 90 16:16:08 EST
From: "Marc Dionne" <TRRMICR%UQTR.UQuebec.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Novell Servers

We are using a Novell server to distribute PC software in a student
classroom and we have some interresting utilities. Now, we plan to use our
Novell server to distribute Mac software to, so we will use an "appletalk
network" for the Macintosh. Our PC utilities does not work in the Mac
network, so we are looking for some utilities who can do:


1. Can protect a copy of a software from a station (Execute only).

2. Can limite the number of copy for a particular software.

3. Can do some statistic on the utilisation of a particular software.


Thanks in advance for your help.

Marc Dionne
Service de l'informatique
Universite du Quebec a Trois-Rivieres
3351 Boul. Des Forges
Trois-Rivieres, Quebec, Canada
G9A 5H7

TRRMICR@UQUEBEC.ca
(819) 376-5100

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Date: 27 Feb 90   16:03 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: PC MacTerm with non-Hayes modems

Date: 27 February 1990, 16:00:33 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To:   INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: PC MacTerm with non-Hayes modems

Anybody had any luck with this?  DMA's Tech Support is always busy, can't
get through to inquire.  pcANYWHERE III will work with our digital (non-Hayes)
pbx if we set it to "direct connection" instead of one of the modem options
available from the menu; PC MacTerm doesn't seem to have any options in its
menu regarding the connection type!

Tnx,  Ted

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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1990 17:24:58 CST
From: DUNN@acuvax.ots.utexas.edu   (Kevin S. Dunn)
Subject: VAX AS MAC FILESERVER

Greetings to all INFO-MAC subscribers...
I am a member of a team designing a 50 node Mac and PC  network for our
Journalism and Mass Communication Department at Abilene Christian
University. Campus connectivity issues and managment needs have caused
our design team to look toward the VMS platform as a server. 
I am interested in hearing from anyone who is operating an AppleTalk
or Eathernet network with a Digital Vax operating VMS as their primary
server.
I would also like to hear from anyone who has experience with the following
products , or any other products designed for intigrating the Vax VMS
environment with the Mac AppleTalk world.
     * AlisaShare AFP File Server
     * AlisaTalk TSSnet
     * PacerShare
     * PacerLink
     * C-Server (Solana)
Please reply to my address below and I will summerize all responses to the
network.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
*****************************************************************************
**  Kevin S. Dunn                                  **  SnailMail Address:  **
**  Department of Journalism and Mass Communication**  ACU BOX 8059        **
**  Abilene Christian University                   **  Abilene, TX 79699   **
*****************************************************************************
**  BITNet: DUNN@ACUVAX  **                                ** (915)674-2427**
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 90 22:48 EST
From: <JK_APPLE%UNHH.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Virus Things and Such

Hi All,

In Info-Mac #39 there was a mention about Buying SAM and such, for public labs
and the like.

The folks here at UNH have found the ShareWare stuff works the best and is much
cheaper!!!  To combat WDEF they use GateKeeper Aid, to keep most others in
check they use Vaccine (it flags ALL devious behavior) and for general scanning
of disks they use Disinfectant 1.6

Just a note to folks going out to BUY the latest and greatest commercial stuff
to combat WDEF, to remove this virus from any disk, just rebuild the DESKTOP
file.  This is done by holding down the COMMAND and OPTION keys ANYTIME the
finder is being activated (restarting, exiting a program, etc.).

WDEF only attacks the DESKTOP file, NOTHING else.
NOT the System, the Finder, Word 4.0 or anything other than the DESKTOP file.

There are valid resouces that have the WDEF signature, these reside in
almost EVERY application (key word: APPLICATION).  They define the
Macintosh WINDOWS, size, shape, etc.

Sorry to keep rambling on and on, but I had TONS of questions today about
WDEF and the campus AppleShare servers!!!    :)

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