[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V8 #49

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (03/09/90)

Info-Mac Digest             Fri,  9 Mar 90       Volume 8 : Issue  49 

Today's Topics:
                                BBS ?
                         Casio<->Mac Software
                    Context-specific "beep" sounds
                  DA printing to DeskWriter under MF
                            FDHD Troubles
                    Font/DA catalog program needed
                        Info-Mac Digest V8 #39
                         LCD Projection, etc.
                             Meander 1.0
                 NetHack 3.0 patchlevel 6 for the Mac
                            Online America
                       RedRyder and MultiFinder
                   Shareware Fees (how to pay them)
                     ShowINIT source code package
                            Sound Manager
                      Switchable power supplies
                         TokenTalk confusion!
                            TOPS questions
       Turning off video-card interrupts (an urgent question).
                           where is Mouser?
          window resize help! (from Info-Mac Digest V8 #29)
                          WindowShade/Rumors
                     Word 4 & Adobe Type Manager

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Date: Mon Mar  5 01:50:33 BST 1990
From: hippo%tardis.computer-science.edinburgh.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
Subject: BBS ?

Anyone out there recommend any decent bulletin board packages running on Macs?

It has to run on a Mac, 'cos it's for my local AppleCentre (who aren't allowed to have any other CPU's under the same roof!).  I'd only envisage one phone line, so need only be single user.  I'd want mail, up and down loading, all the usual stuff.

As usual, post direct and I'll summarise ..

   -- Hugh

Hey, this is great!  I don't work for anyone anymore!
I don't need to put any disclaimers in here!

I will anyway.  Views and opinions expressed in this message are most positively those of "The Software Conspiracy".  I know, because I own it.  It's all mine!  Nobody to tell me what to do anymore!

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 90 22:33:30 EST
From: "Alecia T. Devantier" <34L4PCN@cmuvm.bitnet>
Subject: Casio<->Mac Software

     In regard to the person asking for Beta Testers for testing some
Mac/Casio 8000 software, I am interested.  I accidentally discarded the
mail message before I jotted down the address...  What's worse, my
husband deleted his Info-Mac before I could catch him...
     Thanks...
            Alecia Devantier
            34L4PCN at CMUVM.Bitnet

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Date: 4 Mar 90   12:42 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Context-specific "beep" sounds

Date: 4 March 1990, 12:38:43 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To:   INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: Context-specific "beep" sounds

I'd like to know if/how anyone has implemented a context-specific beep sound
for the action, "clicking outside a dialog box."  All of the beep-changing
programs I've seen use the same category for this as for any other basic
alert beep; I've been told it's in the OS that way--has anyone written a
patch specifically for that?

Example of desired result is our old favorite, HAL:  (User clicks outside
modal dialog box) "I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that."

Ted
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|    |   |University of Cincinnati Med. Ctr.    |Cincinnati, OH  45267-0574
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   |     |Information Research and Development  |WMLBTAM@UCCCVM1 Bitnet, U1091
Go | ___ |======================================|AppleLink, MORRISTA@UCMCIC.
Bearcats!|Call me up and I'll talk data to ya'! |UC.EDU Internet, WB8VNV NTS
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Date: Sun, 04 Mar 90 12:11:15 EST
From: Ami Zakai <ZAK@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: DA printing to DeskWriter under MF

I have been running into problems printing to my DeskWriter from various
DAs like Easy Envelope + and McSink. The problems range from the mac or
printer locking up and needing a reset to various cdev/inits losing
resources and the directory getting so mangeled that needed to reformat
and restore from backup.
I have tried on various configuration and the problem traces down to the
DeskWriter driver v1.00 under MultiFinder 6.03 while printing from DAs (with
or without DA handler). All testing was done with my SE/30 with most recent
versions of software said to be comaptible with the DeskWriter.

Any1 else had similar problems or found a way to work around it?

   --Zak

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Date: 4 Mar 90   14:28 EST
From: WMLBTAM%UCCCVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: FDHD Troubles

Date: 4 March 1990, 14:25:28 EST
>From: WMLBTAM at UCCCVM1
To:   INFO-MAC at SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU
Subj: FDHD Troubles

Is it just us, or are there others who have flaky FDHD drives?  In our IIx,
IIcx, and IIci machines (none over 15 mos. old) we're having a devil of a
time getting them to format HD diskettes, even right out of the box or bulk-
erased.  (I know about the probx with previously-MS-DOS-formatted disks.)

ANYBODY have an idea of what's going on?

Ted
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|    |   |Theodore Allan Morris                 |231 Bethesda Avenue, ML# 574
|    |   |University of Cincinnati Med. Ctr.    |Cincinnati, OH  45267-0574
 |__|--- |Med. Ctr. Information & Communications|513-558-6046 W, 731-3451 H
   |     |Information Research and Development  |WMLBTAM@UCCCVM1 Bitnet, U1091
Go | ___ |======================================|AppleLink, MORRISTA@UCMCIC.
Bearcats!|Call me up and I'll talk data to ya'! |UC.EDU Internet, WB8VNV NTS
===============================================================================

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 03:05:12 -0500
From: jdb@cwns4.ins.cwru.edu
Subject: Font/DA catalog program needed

I'm looking for any information on the existence/availability
of a catalog program that can list multiple DA's and fonts
inside suitcase files. I like to keep my fonts and DA's in a
few large files instead of single suitcases but at catalog time
this leads to zero information on the contents. 

Does anyone know of a program that will look inside the suitcase
to find out the contents? Are there any programmers out there
looking for a new project? For DA's it may be possible to catalog by 
reading the names of the individual DRVR resources. For fonts
it would probably be a little more complicated to include the sizes.

Please e-mail responses to   jdb@po.cwru.edu    and I'll summarize
the voluminous results later. Thanks!


--
Justin D. Bukowski               |                                  |
Case Western Reserve University  | You're only young once;          |
Cleveland, Ohio 44106            | But you can be immature forever. |
Hell                             |                                  |

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 07:36:54 PST
From: claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Dennis Cohen)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #39

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>   I recently ran across a DA named Twelve-C tm which is a simulated
>Hewlett Packard calculator (model 12C), which is the business calculator
>that they produce.  It is true to the actual calculator in just about all
>of its functions...(I'm not able to check them all since I am unfamiliar
>with most of the business functions).  My question is...are there any other
>DA's of their other models, more specifically the 11C or *28S*(the
>scientific calculators).  If so, where are they available? Are they
>*freeware* or shareware or just too expensive?
I haven't seen examples of either of those; however, you might look into
purchasing a copy of "Calculator Construction Set" by Dubl-Click to make
your own.

>  If is freeware or shareware, and someone can show me how, I would
>gladly send in the Twelve-C tm DA to be archived.  You can respond to me
>directly to save the net some trouble and I can summarize it later.
This comes up often, the 12-C DA is NOT freeware or shareware.  It is a
commercial product, formerly published by Dreams of the Phoenix.  When DotP
went under, the rights reverted to the author and he found another publisher.

--
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
 ****************************************************
Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 90 10:45:26 PLT
From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: LCD Projection, etc.

We use a Kodak Datashow HR/M (that is, Macintosh model) with fair success
for PowerPoint.  I haven't tried it with MacroMind Director, but animation
might present some problems if the LCD's don't "track" (switch from full
white to full black) fast enough.  It partly depends on how demanding the
animation is.

The Kodak we use has a relatively small screen area (that is, the "original"
size of the screen image on the pad is about the same as the SE screen).
Therefore, even in a large hall with a large projector, you may be
disappointed in the image size (maybe a little more than half the projected
size of an 8.5x11" transparency).

Typically, large screen video projection of computer screens is TERRIBLE
(TV just doesn't have the resolution).  Of course, if cost is not an
object, you might try the audio-visual company SIGGRAPH hired for their
last convention -- they had HDTV all over the place...

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Date: Fri Feb 16 12:32:53 1990
From: Joel Bender <joel%memory.uucp@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu>
Subject: Meander 1.0
A simple game from the archives of Joel Bender.

Description

The playing is an NxN square board with pieces that slide around, similar to 
the Boss-15 puzzle.  Each piece connects two pairs of its sides:

	Top to left and bottom to right.
	Top to right and bottom to left.
	Top to bottom and right to left (called a "bridge").

When you start a new game, you specify the size of the board, the kind of game 
(2-person, person against the computer, and person against the computer 
advanced mode), and how many bridges (2 or 4).  For play against the computer, 
the user is always the first player.

When play begins, the "hole" is in the center of the board.  Any set of pieces 
can be slid into the hole.  On a 5x5 board, clicking the top center will slide 
the two pieces above the hole towards the hole.  You'll get the picture...

After the pieces slide, a meandering line f

orms.  The object of the game is to 
be the first player to connect any two sides of the board with this meandering 
line.  Note that the corner pieces already connect two sides, so the meandering 
line must go through at least two pieces.  In the case of the bridges, the line 
goes over or under and continues on to the next square.

You can undo a move, but note that you will always undo a pair of moves.  If 
you "goofed" and the computer won, selecting undo will still leave it your 
turn.

One further restriction: To keep you from running a game indefinitely, you 
cannot make a move that is the direct inverse of the computers move.

History

This game was shown to me by my friend and boss Foster Schucker while I was a 
student at SUNY Fredonia.  I believe that he got it from his friend and boss J. 
D. Eisenberg while they were at the University of Delaware, some where.  J.D., 
if you're out there, send me a letter, will you?  Last I heard you were working 
on Apple ]['s.

The old version ran on an ADM3A te

rminal with a graphics expansion card,
connected with a high speed (2400bps) RS-232 line to a Burroughs B6810.  Any
ALGOL fans out there?  You gotta love them 48bit stack machines...

After "porting" it to the IBM-PC when it first came out, I rewrote it for the 
Mac, added the computer opponent, and (in a brief moment of inspiration) added 
bridges.  That addition makes things much more difficult, as you will see.

I have also mapped the game on a Rubik's Cube but couldn't figure out who won!  
Neat paths though...

The future

Version 1.1 will tell you who won (rather than just the beep you get now).  
Version 2.0 will be in color, show you the winning path, and play other people 
over a network.  I have another game in the works called "Crossroads" which is 
based on a similar concept.

If you have any other ideas, let me know!

-  Joel Bender                            joel@memory.uucp                 -
-  BAKA Computers, Inc.             ...!batcomputer!memory!joel            -
-  200 Pleasant Grove Road        joel%memory@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu       -
-  Ithaca, NY 14850                         607-257-2070                   -

[Archived as /info-mac/game/meander.hqx; 28K]

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 09:53:32 EST
From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: NetHack 3.0 patchlevel 6 for the Mac

Here is NetHack version 3.0i patchlevel 6 as ported to the Mac by Johnny Lee
and others.

Gregg TeHennepe                        | Minicomputer Specialist
gateh@conncoll.bitnet                  | Connecticut College, New London, CT

[Archived as /info-mac/game/nethack-30p6-part1.hqx; 150K
             /info-mac/game/nethack-30p6-part2.hqx; 150K
             /info-mac/game/nethack-30p6-part3.hqx; 150K
             /info-mac/game/nethack-30p6-part4.hqx; 150K
             /info-mac/game/nethack-30p6-part5.hqx; 75K]

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 11:07:38 EST
From: Ted Charrette <charrett@erl.mit.edu>
Subject: Online America

Like many of you, I received an invitation to join Online America for
one month FREE.  Well, I tried Online in ?September? and it was OK, but
I decided I didn't need the service (at least not for $5.95/mo +
an hourly charge), and never used it again.

Why then did I find a $5.95 charge on my Feburary VISA bill?

I will call them today and find out.  In the mean time, I suggest
that all people who tried Online America, but declined their offer

			*********************************
  			 CHECK YOUR VISA BILLS CAREFULLY.
			*********************************


			- Sign me Livid in Lexington.

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 1990 20:33:55 EST
From: RICH@suhep.phy.syr.edu (Richard S. Holmes)
Subject: RedRyder and MultiFinder

Some time back, I guess I helped initiate a round of RedRyder/White Knight
bashing by posting an inquiry about WK and its alternatives.  In that note, I
said RedRyder wouldn't work under Multifinder.  I got a lot of varied opinions,
but no one contradicted my complaint.

But, since I'm writing this very note through RR 10.3 under MultiFinder,
obviously I was wrong.  This came to my attention due to a recent posting by
Tom Coradeschi (tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL).  

I don't know why it didn't seem to work once upon a time, but when I tried
again tonight things seemed OK.  At first.  Then I noticed some screen updating
problems when I use VAX EVE.  Ah well -- nothing as insidious as the problems
Zterm has with VT100 emulation (I think... if I'm not wrong again...) and
nothing a REFRESH command won't fix.  Maybe RR 10.3 works well enough under MF
for my purposes.  Certainly it doesn't fail utterly, as I originally said.

Apologies to anyone I may have misled, and to Scott Watson and Freesoft. 
Incidentally, I STILL think the RR 10.3 manual is about the worst piece of
documentation in the business.

                                                   Rich Holmes

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

     Richard S. Holmes              Phone: (315)443-3891 or
     Physics Department                            -2701
     Syracuse University            Bitnet:   rich@suhep
     Syracuse, NY 13244             Internet: rich@suhep.phy.syr.edu

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

DISCLAIMER: I have no opinions.

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 90 10:57:23 PLT
From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Shareware Fees (how to pay them)

I have been in favor of a system like the royalty payment system used
in the music business -- the American Society of Composers, Authors,
and Publishers (ASCAP) and a rival organization, BMI, sign up authors.
Users of royalty material send a lump-sum check to the society with an
itemized list, and the society redistributes the money (less operating
expenses) to authors on some periodic basis (like quarterly).

This kind of system would make it very mcuh easier to pay shareware
fees in our environment (a state university), where it can cost as
much as $35 just to write a check (not to mention the back-and-forth
paperwork). I avoid using shareware today, because the effort involved
in making the payment is so great. If I could make one lump-sum
payment to a society, there are quite a few items I would use.

By the way, I hear that ASCAP sends people around to bars to check the
juke boxes and make sure that owners are paying the proper royalties.
If that's true, it might be part of the model that a ShareWare Coop
might want to *skip*.

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 90 05:28 CST
From: TOM HILLSON <A4RCS@ccvax.iastate.edu>
Subject: ShowINIT source code package

Enclosed is the complete package for the ShowInit source in ASM
by Paul Mercer.  I got the package of America Online, it has more
information and examples than the basic source already in the archive.
I am trying to write a cdev and this has helped me understand how to 
incorporate and use the ASM code to show my Icon on start up into my
Think C source code.  I hope this helps others, who have been wondering
more about the source code and how to use it.

Tom Hillson
Iowa State University Mac Users Group
A4RCS@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU


[Archived as /info-mac/source/showinit.hqx; 17K]

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 17:47:02 EST
From: qemp@harvard.harvard.edu (group Qemp)
Subject: Sound Manager

I have been having enormous difficulty with the Sound Manager and
wonder if anyone has some tips and/or source code in either Pascal
or C describing how to use the Sound Manger in asynchronous mode to
produce recorded sounds.  I also need to use the WaveTableSynth to
produce two simultaneous tones of various waveforms and different
frequencies and intensities.  Calls to SndDoCommand with various
combinations of waveTableCmd, noteCmd, ampCmd, phaseCmd, freqCmd,
etc., never produce an error result code, but often don't work.  In
particular, specifying the frequency in the low three bytes of
param2, instead of a note value in the lowest byte, never works.
Frustration has indeed set in.  I would be greatly appreciate
any information or sources.  Unfortunately soon after I posted this
message previously, our system went down.  I fear I lost any
replies.  Please send to both addresses below.  Thanks.

psaeta@harvard.edu
qemp@endor.harvard.edu

Peter Saeta

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 13:05:36 EST
From: JQUIGGIN%UMDD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Switchable power supplies

I am interested in getting a CD-ROM drive, but I want to keep my system portble
between the US and Australia.  Are there any drives which will
run on both 110 and 240 Volt power

Best wishes

John Quiggin

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Date: Sun, 4 Mar 90 23:45:38 EST
From: pascal%altitude.UUCP@iro.umontreal.ca (Pascal Gosselin)
Subject: TokenTalk confusion!

To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: Token Ring Card for Mac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
References: <9003030232.AA01915@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>In a July 1989 issue of LAN magazine, a news brief states that Apple
>was going to announce a 4 MB Token Ring Card for the Macintosh (not Tokentalk).
> I have yet to see any announcement of this card.  Does anyone have any
>information about this?  Is it vapor?  In the works?  Or just a dream?
>Thanks in advance for the help.

You seem to be quite confused... TokenTalk is the name of the Appletalk
PROTOCOL that was adapted to Toklen Ring.  Apple's TokenTalk board is
merely a NuBus card with a 68000 processor, 512K of RAM and a small
INIT file that provides Appletalk services via Token Ring.

A Macintosh II with a TokenTalk card can (with MacDFT) do 3270 terminal
emulation (including multiple sessions) and SMB file transfer via
the Apple File Exchange Utility (directly from network to Hard disk).

The Apple TokenTalk card is a 4MB/sec (4 million BITS per second) implementation of Token Ring.  IBM's newest cards also support a superset called 16MB Token Ring...  Apple does not support 16MB Token Ring, you need to go thru a bridge
(like a Novell file server with two Token Ring cards in it) to access 16MB Token Ring with Apple's TokenTalk cards.... 

Hope this helps...  BTW, this card has been available for 6 months...




-- 
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Pascal Gosselin          |   philmtl!altitude!pascal@uunet.uu.net  |
| Computer Connection Inc. |   AppleLink: CDA0024   CIS: 72757,1570  |
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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 18:11:22 EST
From: SLCET-S <lab014@monmouth-emh2.army.mil>
Subject: TOPS questions

	Greetings Netlanders,

I am looking to network a collection of six MaxIIx's across our
ethernet (also included are two LW II NTX's assumed to be
connected to a Mac through Appletalk). Ideally (if feasible),
these Mac's should also be networked to an existing collection
of PCs and VAXs. I am considering TOPS and need your help.

Questions for those who know:

  *  What are your impressions of TOPS? (comparisons to other?)

  *  How well does it really handle a mixed network? (Mac-PC)
     sharing Laser Printers?

  *  How well does E-mail work? (I am told that TOPS will
     soon announce products to connect to VAX systems, comments?)	
 
  *  What are the good/bad points or comments on
       ease of use                  intuitiveness/user interface
       performance                  security
       network management           sharing files/data
       able to work with all common software
       reliability (does it bomb, can recover, ..)

Thanks for the help. I will summerize to the net.

*************************************************************************
     Chris Braun                Internet:  lab014@monmouth-emh2.army.mil
     1LT, SC                               26.1.0.60
     ETDL                       AV 992-0473
     Fort Monmouth, NJ 07753    Comm: (201) 532-0473
************************************************************************

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 90 13:53:33 EST
From: "Jason D. Harry" <JHARRY@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Turning off video-card interrupts (an urgent question).

How do you turn off the interrupts on the Apple video card?!?!?

I have searched all my Mac literature to find out, but NO LUCK!
I know I'm not supposed to do it, but I need to for about 1 second in
an especially time-critical part of an experiment control program.

I have looked in "Designing Cards and Drivers for Mac II", "Mac Family
Hardware Reference", and "Inside Mac".  Nothing.  It MUST be as simple
as toggling a bit at a particular memory address on the card.

Can SOMEONE either tell me how to do it OR where to look for the complete
story on the video card?  Thanks a million!

Jason Harry
Division of Engineering
Brown University
jharry@brownvm

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 11:02:52 CST
From: Eric Huffman <eric@music.nwu.edu>
Subject: where is Mouser?

Hello All,

I am looking for a program called "Mouser".

It apparently reads Object Pascal source code (and THINK C code
with a trick) and then provides "browsing" capabilities, i.e., lists 
all methods available to objects through inheritance, etc ...

It may be on AppleLink, but I have no account, and others, who do,
have not seen it.  It also does not seem to be on ftp sites such as 
info-mac and apple.apple.com.

If anyone has it ... could you post it?  I have heard it is
shareware.

	Big Thanks,
					Eric Huffman

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 90 19:26:35 PST
From: 6600pete%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (GurgleKat [Pete Gontier])
Subject: window resize help! (from Info-Mac Digest V8 #29)

> I have gotten a few sharware games that are sesigned for the MAC II and
> I have an SE/30...   the games work but they have dialog windows and
> game windows that are either placed off of my screen (mac II screen is
> bigger) or are to big for my screen.  I have gone into the resources
> with ResEdit but there are some dialog windows (mostly for finding files
> to load) that are not reachable, IE I cannot find their resource.  Neither
> can I find the windows that I need to resize, in order to shrink them to my
> screen...  can anybody help me out with this??

I took my own "ought-to" advice and wrote an FKEY to take care of some
of these problems. It centers windows. Free. Docs & source included.
Have fun, but be careful.

Pete Gontier   | InterNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu, BitNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa
Editor, Macker | Online Macintosh Programming Journal; mail for subscription
Hire this kid  | Mac, DOS, C, Pascal, asm, excellent communication skills

[Archived as /info-mac/fkey/center-windows.hqx; 7K]

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Date: Mon, 05 Mar 90 17:00:35 EDT
From: Tim Waire <YI858C%GWUVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: WindowShade/Rumors

Fellow MacPeople:

I have two questions, maybe three:

  1. Recently, here at work we have downloaded WindowShade to test on an
     SE/30.  However, a problem arises frequently using Excel.  When one
     clicks the active windows title bar to have it disappear that works
     fine.  When trying to restore the window by clicking again sometimes
     only parts of the window reappear. (in Excel sometimes just various
     cells reapear)  Any clues as to what could be the problem?

  2. Second question: Are network consist of approximately 20 Macs connected
     via PhoneNet boxes and utilizes TOPS for file transfer.  We are
     currently in the process of purchasing 15 SE/30's to add to this
     network.  Recently my boss has read of a new Apple product that will
     out-perform an SE/30 for less money.  As a government agency purchasing
     Macintosh over IBM this would not look good if our purchase went through
     and then Apple would release a cheaper and better product.  Anyone
     hear any similar rumors???!!??

  3. Third question:  We are also in the process of connecting the above
     network to an existing IBM Novell network running on EtherNet.  I
     would appreciate any suggestions in connecting our Macs.  We do not
     have any file server for our existing network.  Also we are prepared
     to connect each Macintosh individually via some type of EtherNet card.
     The existing Novell network uses WordPerfect Office as the primary
     means of network navigation.  The only large requirements that need be
     met are to insure the Macintosh would be able to communicate via an
     SNA Gateway (already exist on the Novell network) to an IBM 3090.
     Is this possible??????  Currently we are using IRMA cards to emulate
     3270 terminals.  But we do not wish to buy 15 additional cards if
     connecting to the EtherNet will provide a better path.


Thanx in advance.   If there is sufficient interest I will summarize
for the net.

Timothy A. Waire, Jr.
EOP - OMB
yi858c@gwuvm
sc159213@sparko.gwu.edu  (I login here more than the above address)

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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 90 23:03 EST
From: "Vincent Wan (I think?)" <V127KMM6@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Word 4 & Adobe Type Manager

Someone posted the following:
Adobe Type Manager doesn't work well with Word 4.0 with non-laserwriter
printers because choosing other printers causes fractional widths to be
disabled.
Adobe has upgraded ATM to fix this problem the upgrade is FREE just send in
your ATM serial number.  Adobe has also made ATM compatible with non
adobe fonts.

Vincent

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