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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 10 Apr 90 Volume 8 : Issue 73 Today's Topics: A Great Netter's Dinner! Anyone using Oracle with Hyper/SuperCard? Apple files suit over "Jonathan" (Taiwanese Mac+ clone) in Taiwan Color printer selection problems Connecting a PC Harddisk to a MAC Daystar Accelerators FDHD Formatting MIDI and Hypercard NCSA Telnet Need a typing program for older learners Need utility to list all files by size newStack XCMD Postscript on non-Apple printers Problem with HD drives Qing Font running UNIX, MacOS, DOS and Windows on one machine. which? seeking opcode vision users SimCity crashing system files? Single Monitor Patch for Pyro! 4(tm) Spreadsheet file Xfer WorkingWind.hqx Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indicies are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 11:39:33 PDT From: PUGH@ccc.nmfecc.gov Subject: A Great Netter's Dinner! Well, I have 45 places reserved for the Netter's Dinner at the Hunan in SF on Wednesday 11 April after MacWorld. We will be meeting in the lobby of Moscone Center by 6:30 on Wednesday. We will walk to Broadway and Sansome where the Hunan is. We will have a banquet style dinner of approximately $15 cost, drinks extra. We will eat until we are bloated and our ears have turned red >From the spices (well, some of us anyway). We will then sit and talk until we are ready to waddle off in search of parties. Some have requested that I explain the origin of the Netter's Dinner. It all started when someone said, via email, "We ought to get together for dinner at MacWorld so we can meet and see what each other looks like." Well, one thing grew into another and now it's an open function. If you want to meet others whose signatures you know, come along. It is not too late to RSVP and attend. I will be phoning in a final count Wednesday morning. Send me a note or call me. I know there are some DELPHI folks who have always attended in the past and I imagine that they want to continue, but there is currently no way to get email from Internet to DELPHI. What follows is the list of RSVPs with body counts and email addresses. If you are not on this list and wish to attend, let me know. Jon N L pugh@ccc.nmfecc.gov M A L National Magnetic Fusion Energy Computer Center F T N Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory E L PO Box 5509 L-561 C Livermore, California 94550 C (415) 423-4239 2 pugh@ccc.nmfecc.gov 1 claris!drc@ames.arc.nasa.gov 2 meldal@anna.stanford.edu 1 dplatt@coherent.com 1 PA9280%UTKVM1.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu 1 jgro@apldbio.com 1 lsr@apple.com 2 RTHUM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL 1 lippin@math.berkeley.edu 1 barry@playfair.stanford.edu 1 CBLIH@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU 1 hammen@ddsw1.mcs.com 1 SNDAT%ALASKA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu 1 andyp@gvgpvd 1 nakata@jessica.Stanford.EDU 1 jmunkki@kampi.hut.fi 2 FNCAH%ALASKA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu 2 Scott_Boyd.SNARKMAIL_A_K@gateway.qm.apple.com 1 CHRIS%FANDMA.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu 4 IanW@gui.consumers.bc.ca 1 dolf@fwi.uva.nl 2 AAT%VTMSL.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU 1 jaime@tcville.hac.com 1 escher@apple.com 1 borton@fwi.uva.nl 2 purcell%sciences@sdsu.edu 1 t-jacobs%ced@cs.utah.edu 1 omh@cs.brown.edu 1 sharon@asylum.sf.ca.us 1 siegel@harvard.harvard.edu 2 van-bc!mdivax1!lyson@wimsey.bc.ca 1 ggr@garage.att.com 1 xdaa374@emx.utexas.edu 1 mcarlberg@mcimail.com [Distribution to more than ten people] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 00:06 -0300 From: "JOAO C. PORTINARI" <PUCRJPP%BRFAPESP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Anyone using Oracle with Hyper/SuperCard? I am working on a database project that uses SuperCard as an interface, Mark Zimmermann's TEXAS (now "FreeBrowser" 1.0) as a large- text-search-engine, and is dedicated to the work, life and times of a painter (which means that it will show the 5,000 paintings, drawings and prints in his "oeuvre" - scanned for now in 16 gray-levels with the Apple scanner). The documental material is highly correlated, comprising circa 25,000 documents: letters, newspaper clippings, exhibition catalogs, Oral History recordings, epoch photographs, etc. It was recently decided that, in order to increase connectivity *and* get the benefit of SQL, we should use ORACLE. I am just starting, everything seems to work fine, including the fact that SuperCard accepts to convert the stack that has the XCmd "execsql" (loaded into SharedFile) with no problem at all. But, as a beginner both in ORACLE and in SQL, I would appreciate receiving any hints from our net gurus: Publications, books, user-groups, lists, etc., on ORACLE for the Macintosh (or ORACLE "tout court"). Has any of you folks worked with ORACLE&Hyper/SuperCard? Thanks in advance. Joao C. Portinari Projeto Portinari PUC - RJ Rua Marques Sao Vicente 225 Rio de Janeiro, RJ 22453 Brazil Tel: 055-21-529-9364 or 055-21-529-9457 Telex: 9310688 INTD BR FAX: 055-21-259-9697 E-Mail: pucrjpp@brfapesp.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Apr 1990 22:27:39 CDT From: Werner Uhrig <werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu> Subject: Apple files suit over "Jonathan" (Taiwanese Mac+ clone) in Taiwan [check out InfoWorld of April 2, page 105 ] Apple filed a criminal complaint last week against the 5 founders of Akkord echnologies (of Taiwan) alleging "cloning of the Macintosh ROM" and "illegal distribution of Macintosh system software" and "pretending to be an authorized Apple dealer" INTERNET: werner@cs.utexas.edu or: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Internet # 128.83.144.1) UUCP: ...<well-connected-site>!cs.utexas.edu!werner also: werner@astro.as.utexas.edu OR werner@utastro.UUCP ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 90 18:22:15 CDT From: Bob Funchess <S090726@umrvma.umr.edu> Subject: Color printer selection problems We haven't actually received our color printer yet, but we *HAVE* used this method for regular laser printers before: Use the PrintShare software from Apple (or something similar) to allow spooling but NOT bypass or printing. Run the color print jobs in batch by going to the server and deleting unauthorized jobs, then turn off spooling and turn on printing (from the spool). It's a little bit of a hassle but at $1.00 per page it's probably worth it, particularly if you are getting a lot of improper use. Of course this may not be a reasonable solution if you have a LOT of color printing by many different people and you want them to have unlimited use of the printer (not our situation *at all*). < Bob | S090726@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU | Funchess > University of Missouri - Rolla "Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, Never drive a car when you're dead" -- T. Waits ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 12:18 +0100 From: "Povl H. Pedersen" <ECO8941@ecostat.aau.dk> Subject: Connecting a PC Harddisk to a MAC I do not know if this has been answered before, but I am considering to buy a 49MB Seagate SCSI harddisk, which is designed for use on a PC. I would like to get this instead of one of the expensive drives designed for the MAC, as I can get it for less than half price. A local technician says that the problem is that the Apple-driver does not support this type of disks, but he has once tried to get it up and running by using a Tallgrass driver. Unfortunately the Talgrass driver is not available for sale without there harddisks, so my question is : Has anybody out there written a driver for PC-type harddisks ? or do you know where I can buy one ? (Great shareware software if it exists, if I can save $200 then I will not hesitate to send $25-$50 to a shareware author) ======================================================================== | Povl H. Pedersen | InterNet address: ECO8941@ecostat.aau.dk | | Student | | | Dept. of Economics |----------------------------------------------| | Aarhus Universitet | Own Hardware: Mac SE, 2MB + HD20 | | DENMARK | Interests: Macintosh, C, boardgames | |======================================================================| [ Why I don't keep things in the right order ? I understand Chaos ! ] ======================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 00:04:33 EDT From: siegel@harvard.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel) Subject: Daystar Accelerators I have one in my Mac II. I love it to pieces; it's a 40MHz board with an FPU, and it's aboslutely great. Connectix is working on a version of Virtual which will work with the accelerator, and then you can be one of the first on your block to have 14MB at 40 (or 50) MHz.... My only connection with Daystar is as a satisfied customer. R. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rich Siegel Staff Software Developer Symantec Corporation, Language Products Group Internet: siegel@endor.harvard.edu UUCP: ..harvard!endor!siegel "When someone who makes four hundred and fifty dollars an hour wants to tell you something for free, it's a good idea to listen." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 90 13:28 CST From: Jeff Robbin <BPTJLRPB@uiamvs.bitnet> Subject: FDHD Formatting Ever since I upgraded my reliable Macintosh SE to a Macintosh SE/30, I've noticed how I get an unusually high number of bad disks when I try to reformat them in my internal FDHD. I brought this up to my local Apple technician, and he tested the drive with the result of it passing just fine. We supposed it must be a software problem, but no.. it happens even when using the new System 6.0.5 with no startup inits. -- Looking into it further, I realized that I was not the only person who experienced this problem. We checked the technicians drive, and it had the same problem. Being curious, we decided to test a brand new FDHD >From the service stock. Surprise! The same disk formatted fine in the new drive! Test again, and yep it still fails in both my computer and the technician's, but if we try to format it in the new drive, it works fine. Hmm. What could be different between the good and the bad drives? -- Well, when we examined the logic board of the drives, we discovered that the good drive had a different chip on it than both of our "defective" drives. The bad drives had a chip: CXD1094A, and the good drive had a replacement chip: CXD1603Q. We couldn't believe it. We also noticed that the serial numbers of the bad drives end in P1, but the good drive serial number ended in a P2. One last thing to check.. The revision of the FDHD logic board on the bad drives was 1-625-896-13, and on the good drive it was 1-625-896-19. -- The same types of errors occur using both HD and 800k disks. They format, but as soon as the drive starts to verify, it kicks out and gives a bad disk error. -- Has anybody else noticed any problems with the FDHD original drives? Has Apple announced any upgrade/replacement for the old drives with this unusual problem? If you are experiencing any of these types of problems, please send me the information from your drive (serial#, chip#). -- I'll summarize responses for the net. -- Jeff Robbin Bitnet: BPTJLRPB@UIAMVS -- PS: There are two readily visible chips on the FDHD logic board, but the second chip: CX20185 appears on both the good and bad drives. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 9:15:02 EDT From: John Major <major@bbn.com> Subject: MIDI and Hypercard I am interested in manipulating extensive musical examples using a stack -- I will be using the Apple Audio CD drivers to run an Audio CD, but need to supplement what's on the CD with things >From Hypercard. As I understand it, my options are these: 1) Write the examples using Hypercard's musical language -- argh! 2) Digitize the raw sound, and store it as resources -- very costly in disk space, at CD quality. 3) Manipulate MIDI information in some form using XCMDs -- presumably more compact than digitized CD, although not as nice. This last one may be a nice comprimise, but I don't know whether in fact it's possible! I have noticed some discussion of MIDI and Hypercard in the past, but have unfortunately ignored those messages, so here's my plea -- have you already dealt with this issue? How did you solve it? Have you heard rumor of a solution? Thanks in advance for any help -- John Major 617/873-8165 major@spcink.bbn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 10:12:30 CDT From: umbaugh@evax.arl.utexas.edu (David Umbaugh) Subject: NCSA Telnet On Thu, 29 Mar 90 10:54:43 EDT, "Scott Cherkofsky (Crusader)" <LE865C%GWUVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> said: SC> ok I have tried hooking into my friends computer (macintosh) via an FTP SC> link from my CMS mainframe to his PC using NCSA Telnet on his side. SC> I have been able to connect to his computer (resident server) fine and dandy SC> except for the fact that it will not allow me to log on (it does not take SC> the Anonymous User ID and passwords. I know he has not put a password onto SC> his account (I was talking him through setting up the account for this over SC> the phone) does anybody have any idea on why it will not let me log on?? If he has FTP Enable checked in his File menu you should be able to establish an ftp connection using your mainframe as the client and his NCSA Telnet Server. Since the Macintoxh is a single user system it does not have user accounts. Don't use the command user anonymous as soon as your client ftp reports that the connection is established you may begin the file transfer process in either direction. If you have him set the transfer directory (using Command-D) you will be in the right folder on his Mac. Otherwise, you can use the change directory command "cd" to navigate the Mac Hierarchical File Structure. SC> I even went to the trouble of getting him to make a password and new user SC> so that I could log in using that one... no dice.... HELP please? I have never established an ftp password on my machine so I cannot help except to refer you to the manuals if you want password protection. Your friend should be aware that without a password set and with FTP Enable enabled his machine is accessable to anyone on the network for ftp transfers so long has he is running NCSA Telnet. SC> Thankyou Hope this helps. SC> __________________________________________________________ Scott Cherkofsky SC> "Only the insane have the strength enough to prosper. SC> Only those that prosper truly judge what is sane." -- W40K SC> __________________________________________________________________________ L. David (Dave) Umbaugh <umbaugh@evax.utarl.edu> Computer Science Engineering Formerly (still useable) University of Texas at Arlingon <umbaugh@evax.arl.utexas.edu> or PO Box 19015 Arlington, TX 76012 <CS_UMBAUGH@EVAX.ARL.UTEXAS.EDU> or (817) 273-3628 <umbaugh@hcx.arl.utexas.edu> <B652LDU@UTARLG> BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 14:46 EDT From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen) Subject: Need a typing program for older learners Greetings, The subject says it all. Any suggestions/ favorites? The "older learner" is an english professor about to purchase an SE. Reply directly and I'll summarize. Thanks in advance Peter Jorgensen Microcomputer specialist Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346 AppleLink - U0523 BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 10:11 EST From: <FILLMORE%EMRCAN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Need utility to list all files by size Is anyone aware of a utility which will list all files on your hard disk sorted by descending file size? I need something like this to clean up my hard disk periodically. It should have the ability to point and click to delete a file, and perhaps a view option to check text files. ________________________ Bob Fillmore, Systems Software & Communications BITNET: FILLMORE@EMRCAN Computer Services Centre, BIX: bfillmore Energy, Mines, & Resources Canada Voice: (613) 992-2832 588 Booth St., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0E4 FAX: (613) 996-2953 ------------------------------ Date: Thu 22 Mar 90 18:55:04-MST From: "Eric C. Kofoid" <BI.KOFOID@science.utah.edu> Subject: newStack XCMD The newStack XCMD creates a minimal HyperCard stack. It takes a single parameter, the path name of the new file. Its syntax is: newStack "myDisk:aFolder:<etc.>:myStack" Both the XCMD and the ARCH resources must be present in the parent stack, home stack or HyperCard for this external command to function properly. newStack may be freely used and distributed for any non-commercial purpose. If you wish to make commercial use of newStack, contact me to work out a mutually satisfactory arrangement. Eric Kofoid 22 March 1990 __________________________________________________________________ | (801) 581-3592 | | Snail: Eric Kofoid; Dept. Biology, U. of Utah; SLC, UT 84112 | | Fast: bi.kofoid%science@utahcca (BitNet) | | Faster: bi.kofoid@science.utah.edu (InterNet) | |Fastest: kofoid@bioscience.utah.edu (InterNet -> QuickMail) | | | | -- The University of Utah is blameless for anything I've said -- | |__________________________________________________________________| [Archived as /info-mac/card/xcmd/new-stack.hqx; 31K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 09:29:12 PDT From: doug@nisd.cam.unisys.com (Doug Hardie) Subject: Postscript on non-Apple printers We have a problem sending postscript files to another site. They are unable to get them to print without some unusual procedures. They have a Sun with a Sun laser printer running TransScript. I first sent a postscript file generated with a command-f. That didn't print. Then I sent the laserprep stuff generated by command-k and that didn't work either. Then I tried the program AddLPrep from the archive and that didn't work either. Then the people at the other site found a strange procedure (see below) that works under some cases. Surely there must be an easier way for them to print postscript. I would appreciate any help understanding what is going on, and how we might set this up so it is easier for them to print our postscript files. thanks, -- Doug (Note received from other site) I tried using showpage, and that still did not cause anything to print. In the TranScript manual, I found an "ehandler.ps" file that causes an explanation to be printed for an error, rather than just failing to print. When I downloaded that, and then downloaded your file that included the definitions for non-Apple machines, the file *printed* perfectly. But when I tried again to make sure it was repeatable, I got an error message printed instead of the file. I then tried printing the original file without the Apple definitions, and the file printed successfully. It appears that the following steps are necessary to get your PS files to print here: 1. download the ehandler.ps (I don't understand why) 2. download your function definition file exactly once 3. download your text file ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 17:28 EDT From: <DANNY%BCVMS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Lassaiz les bon temps rouler!) Subject: Problem with HD drives Hello, I've been reading recently about the problems occurring with Apple's 800K drive and the resulting INIT that helps with this problem ("800K-eject"). Here at BC we have been having massive problems lately with the performance of our HD disks in FDHD drives (configuration = Mac IIcx, FDHD internal, 800K external, no hard disk). Could this be the same problem as the aforementioned 800K drive head problem? Any ideas anyone????? Thanks for the advice ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 90 09:46:14 -1000 From: Arnold Edelstein <arnolde@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Subject: Qing Font Here is a small contribution in recognition of everything that IUve downloaded myself from the network. Qing is simply the 64 hexagrams from the Yi Qing (I Ching) as a font. The numbering is from the Wilhelm-Baynes translation and runs a..z, A..z, 1..0, -, =. If you are using Word 4.0, you can use the accompanying chart after you install the font in a suitcase or in your system. [Archived as /info-mac/font/qing.hqx; 8K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Apr 1990 22:38:49 CDT From: Werner Uhrig <werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu> Subject: running UNIX, MacOS, DOS and Windows on one machine. which? [ check out InfoWorld of April 2, page 106 ] in the regular weekly column "Q&A: Quindlen and Alsop" the title reads: Apple's A/UX 2.0 will give the Mac a leg up on DOS, UNIX and starts out with the question: Which machine can simultaneously run Macintosh, DOS, Windows and UNIX software? answer: a 68030 based Mac-II with A/UX 2.0 and{a 32-bit clean version of Insignia's Soluions Soft-PC. hey, a lot of slowly condensing vaporware here, I know, but by late summer (and assuming that the judge doesn't require Motorola to buy back all 68030 based machines) this may actually be true.... :-) INTERNET: werner@cs.utexas.edu or: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Internet # 128.83.144.1) UUCP: ...<well-connected-site>!cs.utexas.edu!werner also: werner@astro.as.utexas.edu OR werner@utastro.UUCP ------------------------------ Date: Wed 4 Apr 90 13:46:07-PST From: donna m. auguste <AUGUSTE@intellicorp.com> Subject: seeking opcode vision users I'm considering various MAC sequencing packages that support composing, editing, and printing musical scores that have been input via MIDI interface. A couple of people have recommended Opcode's product called Vision, but I have not yet spoken with anyone who has used it firsthand. If you have experience with Vision I'd appreciate hearing your feedback about it. Thanks, donna auguste (Auguste@INTELLICORP.COM) ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 90 12:29:47 EDT From: "Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)" <GWO101%URIACC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: SimCity crashing system files? I have just purchased SimCity for my Mac SE/30. It is a great game but I think it is creating some problems with my printing ability. I used the print option in SimCity and printed a map of my city. Worked fine. But, a few days later, I went to print a document in MSWord 4.0 and I was told that I couldn't open my printer. I went to the chooser to reselect the ImageWriter and I got another error from the system. So, I thought I might have gotten a virus. I ran Disinfectant 1.6 and I was told that the ImageWriter system file was bad. I replaced it and everything worked fine. Now, I printed another map from SimCity and once again, my printer file is bad. I have never had this problem before and the only thing I can think of is that SimCity is causing this. Anyone else have this problem? - Drummer - Acknowledge-To: <GWO101@URIACC> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 22:15:14 ADT From: Peter J Gergely <GERGELY@xx.drea.dnd.ca> Subject: Single Monitor Patch for Pyro! 4(tm) The following patch is supplied via the Technical Support team at Fifth Generation Software. It is only to be used if you are having difficulty finding the Sleep Now and Sleep Never corners using Pyro 4.0. The symptom is that the corner is only sensitive 1 pixel out. According to Fifth Generation the patch need only be applied for the Plus and possibly an SE. It will work on multiple monitors but will change the sensitivity of the corners for Pyro 4.0. Working with A COPY of the ORIGINAL UNALTERED PYRO 4.0 and RESEDIT 1.2, open the INIT 128 resource. Using the FIND HEX menu item, set the Find edit box to 0010670E and the Change edit box to 0010671C. Find and change only the first occurrence of the string. Quit and Save this new version of Pyro 4.0. Replace the copy of Pyro 4.0 into your System Folder, and Restart the Mac. You will now have to redo all your Pyro 4.0 settings as per the Manual (the modules don't need to be reconfigured). - Peter ------- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Apr 90 09:30:00 CDT From: "Grootwassink, David" <grootwass@tawc1.eglin.af.mil> Subject: Spreadsheet file Xfer I have a user with what on the surface seemed to be a rather simple problem. He has a floppy with some Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheets on it. Excel is supposed to be able to read and write 1-2-3 format files. The user wants to get these spreadsheets on to his Mac+ to manipulate with Excel. Both the Mac and the PC have dial-up access to a VAX, and I was going to use that as a transfer medium (Upload to the VAX from a PC - Download >From VAX to Mac). After transfering the file to the Mac I tried to open the file using Excel, it correctly identified the file as a WK1 type file, but after reading 1% of the file it failed with an error of -39. Does anyone know a way to do a relatively easy way to do a one-time-only transfer. -Thanks Dave ******************************************************************************* Lt. Dave Grootwassink USAF Tactical Air Warfare Center INTERNET: GROOTWASS@TAWC1.EGLIN.AF.MIL (129.61.5.1) PHONE: (904)882-4100 AUTOVON 872-4100 (904)882-4600 872-4600 ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 90 23:39:03 CST From: Tsang-Wai Thomas Chin <ttchin@icaen.uiowa.edu> Subject: WorkingWind.hqx WorkingWind 1.0 WorkingWind is a collection of window-handling tools. There are key- commands to send the front window to the bottom, to bring the bottom window to the front, to select the previous window, to close the front window and to select and assign the 'Working Window', which is the one window you are working on primarily. Also includes 'RearWindow' feature. MF compatible, documentation included, ShareWare. -Thomas Chin [Archived as /info-mac/fkey/working-wind.hqx; 10K] ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************