[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V8 #109

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (06/02/90)

Info-Mac Digest             Fri,  1 Jun 90       Volume 8 : Issue 109 

Today's Topics:

      [*] Flower Maker
      [*] MacUser GenApp May '90
      [*] Mandle Crawl
      [*] Synchronicity demo
      Allegro sound
      ANONYMITY, ETC.
      Anonymity-like ResEdits
      Area code DA
      Buying memory summary 
      DiskExpress II
      GatorBoxen vs. The Kinetics FastPath
      Info-Mac Digest V8 #107 (2 msgs)
      Info-Mac Digest V8 #108
      Inits on external drives
      kentmail
      KiwiEnvelopes! 3 
      Launch MacII appls fr. Allegro, Supercard?
      Mac-Spectrophotometer link
      Monitor Woes
      Resolving Font Conflicts
      Sharing Modem Port on Appletalk Network
      StartupScreen at SE/30 with color monitor
      Summary: Kinetics FastPath vs GatorBox
      Summary: Limiting the use of printers
      The Challenge ... who will dare?
      Used MacTutor Wanted

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Date: Sun, 6 May 90 15:48:38 PDT
From: stoms@pollux.ncgia.ucsb.edu
Subject: [*] Flower Maker

Flower Maker 1.1
Copyright 1990 Josh Pritikin - Tetrahedron Programming
All rights reserved.

Flower Maker is a program that plots polar equations. With ease you can
create interesting pictures that look like exotic flowers. THINK C
source included.

Mailware: If you like this program send me a postcard or send email.

I can be reached at:
	stoms@castor.ucsb.edu
	stoms@castor.ncgia.ucsb.edu

	Josh Pritikin
	1404 Greenworth Place
	Santa Barbara, CA 93108

Don't forget to smile :-).

[Archived as /info-mac/app/flower-maker.hqx; 36K]

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Date: Sun, 6 May 90 13:35:00 PDT
From: atkins@manta.nosc.mil (Hugh T. Atkins)
Subject: [*] MacUser GenApp May '90

The much-requested GenApp from MacUser May '90

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/macuser-genapp.hqx; 70K]

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Date: Sun, 6 May 90 15:49:15 PDT
From: stoms@pollux.ncgia.ucsb.edu
Subject: [*] Mandle Crawl

Mandle Crawl v1.0
Copyright 1990 Josh Pritikin - Tetrahedron Programming
Public Domain

Mandle Crawl is a program that renders the Mandlebrot set real fast. In
fact, I haven't seen any programs on the Mac that go faster. It uses a
sneaky algorithm that crawls along the boarders of the set. Alas, the
user interface isn't very good but it works. Color QuickDraw (8-bits)
and a math coprocessor are required. THINK C source included.

Mailware: If you like this program send me a postcard or send email.

I can be reached at:
        stoms@castor.ucsb.edu
        stoms@castor.ncgia.ucsb.edu

        Josh Pritikin
        1404 Greenworth Place
        Santa Barbara, CA 93108

Don't forget to smile :-).

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mandel-crawl.hqx; 76K]

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Date: Sun, 6 May 90 09:57:36 EDT
From: sasaki@umbc3.umbc.edu (Dr. Jim Sasaki (CMSC))
Subject: [*] Synchronicity demo

Here is a copy of the demonstration version of Synchronicity, a program that
advertises itself as a "mood-altering software experience".  It's basically
a decision tool based on the I Ching.  It can be also viewed as a game.
(A very slow moving game, by the way :-).)  It has nice croaking frog sounds.
As the manual warns, "Beware of all advice -- coming from any source -- unless
it rings true for you."  This demonstration version will work four times.


[Archived as /info-mac/demo/synchronicity-part1.hqx; 170K
             /info-mac/demo/synchronicity-part2.hqx; 170K
             /info-mac/demo/synchronicity-part3.hqx; 168K]

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:55:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Terrance Paul McCartney <tm2e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Allegro sound

Does anyone know how to play one of the sounds stored on the System
through Allegro Common Lisp?  I know that (ed-beep) plays the default
sound, but I would like to have a function that plays a specific sound
given the resource id of the sound.

Thanks,
-Paul McCartney  (tm2e@andrew.cmu.edu)

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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 90  08:39:06 EDT
From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: ANONYMITY, ETC.

>From:   <RSKEG%SUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
> When I get  a new piece of  software, I never run it  from the floppy.
> I copy it directly from the floppy  to the hard disk, and *then* I run
> it. The  first run  is generally when  it asks you  to enter  all that
> registation info,  and since  it's the hard  disk copy  that's getting
> the information,  and not the master  copy, it's a very  simple matter
> to  replace the  "branded" hard  drive copy  with an  "anonymous" copy
> from  the master  in the  event of  a misspelling  or transfer  of the
> software to someone else.
>
> Please don't tell  me that I'm the  only one who ever  thought of this
> solution.

Certainly not.  But that doesn't stop the ditsy summer student from
opening a software box, popping the master into the drive,
double-clicking on the brand-new copy of Word 4.0, and typing in her
cute little name when the dialog asks for it instead of clicking past
it the way the rest of us do.  Without Anonymity and similar software,
your professional office is stuck with having to see little Boo-boo's
name (misspelled probably, and bearing some appendage like "Typist
Extraordinaire") fly up in its users' faces for years to come.

(The above is only a slight exaggeration...)

BTW--My personal copy of Word has something even sillier than the
above, but on a working copy only (not the master) and nobody sees it
but me.

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 23:23:48 PDT
From: Tom Lincoln <lincoln%iris@rand.org>
Subject: Anonymity-like ResEdits

Graeme Forbes writes Wed, 30 May 90:
>[It] would be useful would be if [one could] remove some of the startup
>displays. Can this be done ...? Is it safe, or do you trash the
application?

Sure it can be done!  Easily with ResEdit 2.0. Just remove the MacPaint
PICT from the PICT resource or replace it with another one.  I prefer a
scanned in picture.. which gives a whole new meaning to "This software
belongs to..." And it's easier on the eye.. It  can still give the
credits if they are in text overwrite...

Make the new cut and paste from MacPaint the same size as the logo window
on the screen unless you want to go to more work...
I'll post an example for MacWrite 5.0 as MacMary

Tom Lincoln

 p q
 \|/
 /|\   TOM LINCOLN  lincoln@rand.org
 \|/  "Life is short, art is long, opportunity fugitive,
 /|\   experimenting dangerous, reasoning difficult."

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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 90 11:08:07 MDT
From: ZZMLAB%UALTAVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Area code DA

Some time ago, I saw a posting about a desk accessory that allows you
to look up area codes. Does anyone know the name of this program and
where it is posted? Thanks in advance.

Reg Oake
ZZMLAB@UALTAVM

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Date: 1 Jun 90 14:07:15 GMT
From: wsinkees@win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing)
Subject: Buying memory summary 

Pieter Stouten <STOUTEN%EMBL.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:
>time to get such merchandise cleared by customs (we did not have to pay any
>tax, but one should realize that e.g. Germany typically charges 15% import
>tax for semi-conductor materials) and 2) the chips might not be in stock
WARNING: in Holland -- and most other European countries -- you have to pay
VAT when you import things from the States.  The Dutch rate is 18.5%, I guess
that other European countries have about the same figure.  Futhermore, you
have to pay about 4% import tax on computer stuff, unless it comes from
another member of the common market.  When I ordered some memory chips, a
third company in Holland called Wassing took care of this and charged me Dfl
120 ($60) for this service! 
I am still trying to find out how to avoid this in future.
I once bought some second-hand software, which passed the customs without
any trouble.  I don't know whether this was correct or not.
All in all both packets took about a week to arrive.  The first by UPS
($39), including time spent at this ****** handling company, and the second
by air mail ($3).
Also note that many mail order companies have some contract or policy
that forces them to ship by a specific mailer.  Across the Atlantic, this is
very expensive -- and do you need those few days?

>******************************************************

>** TECHNOLOGY WORKS

>4030 Braker Lane West
>Austin, TX 78759
>Toll free: (800) 622-2210
>telefax:   (512) 794-8520

>-> Technology WORKS is pretty good. 70ns SIMMs for $98/meg. Includes Torx,
>installation guide, etc. Will send it COD; accepts visa, M/C, etc.
				       ^^^ 
				    what's this?

They told me they only ship by UPS and Federal Express.  In April, 70ns
SIMMs cost $79 *University Price*.  They sold us Siemens chips.  Better than
all that Asian stuff, huh?
-- 
Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands
DOMAIN: wsinkees@win.tue.nl    BITNET: wsdckeesh@heitue5    FAX: +31-40-436685 

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:21:40 -0500
From: Sue Klefstad <klefstad@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: DiskExpress II

Doug Larrick writes:
> I would still recommend [DiskExpress II], however, as it IS
> the only program that I know of that can consolidate free space.

SUM II by Symantec has a disk TuneUp utility that will consolidate
free space.  The Optimize Volume TuneUp option needs to be selected
when the TuneUp is run.  (It also has a Defragment Files option.)

--- Sue
Sue Klefstad
klefstad@uiuc.edu

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 13:02:35 PDT
From: radius!lemke@apple.com (Steve Lemke)
Subject: GatorBoxen vs. The Kinetics FastPath

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>	OK.... based on the desire to hang a collection of Mac II, SE/30,
>SE and + off of a SUN Ethernet to take advantage of NFS access to the 
>big disks, which is better, Gator or Kinetics?  There is also a
>LaserWriter to be considered; it is currently connected to a SUN
>and should be accessible to the Mac population.

If you intend to use NFS (and make it look like AppleShare) then you
would be better off with the Gatorbox since you can get GatorShare
software for it (which automatically does the NFS/AFP translation).

>	The other consideration is a preference for using Public Domain
>software like KIP/CAP and POP (for mail) rather than costly commercial
>software.

Oh, you want PD stuff...  Well, in that case, I guess it doesn't really
matter which you use.  But, if you want the OPTION of using GatorShare if
you have problems with the KIP/CAP stuff, then the Gatorbox is the way
to go.

We have both here (six FastPaths, two GatorBoxes), and from what I recall,
we are only ordering GatorBoxes in the future (I think).  Either one is
capable (with the latest software) of allocating dynamic IP addresses to
Macs on the LocalTalk side, in case you want to do Telnet stuff.  I've seen
this work on the Kinetics, but we haven't got the latest (1.5) Cayman
software yet.

>	Please Email direct.  I'll summarize if the response warrants it.

>Regards,

>Loki Jorgenson			node:  loki@physics.mcgill.ca
>Physics, McGill University	fax:   (514) 398-3733
>Montreal Quebec CANADA		phone: (514) 398-6531

--Steve
--
----- Steve Lemke, Engineering Quality Assurance, Radius Inc., San Jose -----
----- Reply to: lemke@radius.com     (Note: NEW domain-style address!!) -----

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:30 CDT
From: ADUS10@jetson.uh.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #107

I read with much interest the mail from Karl Pottie about Grappler.  He
mentioned that the Grappler LQ, although not postscript, will allow the Mac
to print to an HP compatible laser printer.  The device connects to the
centronics interface on the printer???? what is this, where is this??

I would like more information obout this and how it might be used to connect
a Mac to the HP LaserJet Series II.  I am currently trying to find a solution
for one of our users who is connected to the HP and using PrintWorks, there
are also PC's connected, all go straight to the HP printer into an Extended
Systems card in the printer.  I know HP is coming out with AppleTalk soon but
these computers are not on a network.  I could network them but maybe the
Grappler solution is easier.

By the way, Printworks is not worth the trouble, I would not recommend it
to anyone.  Karl, please send me more info, or suggestions.  Thanks much.

Jeana C. Rogers
User Specialist II
University of Houston

ADUS10@JETSON.UH.EDU   OR JROGERS@UHOU

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 14:18:29 CDT
From: delliott@cec2.wustl.edu (Dave Elliott)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #107

Re:  John Daspit's letter.
     It would be wise for any archive manager to look up the current 
copyright law about fair use... or ask an intellectual-property expert.
The problem about clip art is that not all of it is being used on a
single-copy "fair use" basis; it gets into the hands of desktop publishers
who may use it commercially or in large quantities. Such as person may well
be sued by Disney, or the publisher of a skin mag, or an artist; in that case
the legal position of the archive is doubtful. Personally I would take no
chance, in this litigious age, of getting myself or my organization into
such a hassle. ... No, I don't wait at broken stop signals :-)


				Dept. of Systems Science and Mathematics
                                Washington University
				St. Louis, MO 63130.  (314)-889-6092
				FAX (314)-726-4434   delliott@CEC2.WUSTL.EDU

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 08:39 CDT
From: ADUS10@jetson.uh.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #108

We have been using Omnipage for almost 2 years now.  I wouldn't use anything
else.  I has very good character recognition, find and replace, so you can edit
before you even export the file, and with the new optional product can even
recognize dot matrix print from an ImageWriter II.  We have scanned extensive
documents that were "lost" on Macs and had no problems....

Go for it!!!
No, I don't sell OmniPage or have any connection to the company that does.
I just like the product.

Jeana C. Rogers
User Specialist II
University of Houston

ADUS10@Jetson.uh.edu   or JROGERS@UHOU

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 10:07:16 EDT
From: mikef <MIKEF%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Inits on external drives

Fellow Netters,

     I've recently switched machines from a Mac SE to a Mac SE/30 without a
Hard drive.  My boss supplied me with a Quantum 170Mg external hard disk for
the SE/30.  I had a few problems getting the 30 to bootup with the external,
but I've solved that problem, but now when I add my inits such as: Virex 1.5,
Shield Init, etc. the system hangs when trying to boot from the external. I
have Moire cdev and that seems to load fine, but once it tries to load the
inits it's all over (system freeze).

    Quantum shipped the disk formatted and with system 6.0.5. I discarded the
6.0.5 system folder and installed with 6.0.3. I then found the installer that
came with the SE/30 6.0.4 and updated the system. No matter what I've tried
the machine only boots if there is no inits in the system folder.  Any advice
would be well taken. Thanks in advance for those who can help!

                                       Thanx
                                           Mikef

Mikef@YaleVm.Bitnet
I hope I've made myself clear, if not send me a line.

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 10:54:13 EDT
From: "j.burke" <@ksuvxa.kent.edu:CSLIBSHP@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject: kentmail

Ignore subject given above, its an error.
 
This concerns anonymity and another query.  I vote in favor of anonymity.
 
Case 1: system   installer personalized our MASTER disks with the
name of the department head, not the department or school.  The programs
he did this to look odd every time they are booted - a change is surely
in order here.
 
Case 2: I have worked from copies, but have experienced some companies'
procedures (I'm thinking of a capital M, I'm thinking of a capital S)
are not documented, and do not warn of character limitations.  I have entered
a 25-character name only to find it gets truncated halfway through.  Looks
stupid, and in disgust I now de-fang disks    by entering   blank space.
 
Query:  A colleague is looking for affordable OCR for his PC (note, not Mac)
Does anyone have kudos or caveats for hand-held scanners with OCR software?
I have found several articles, including a recent review in PC Week, but
would like to hear testimonials.

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 09:31:47 PDT
From: siegman@sierra.stanford.edu (Anthony E. Siegman)
Subject: KiwiEnvelopes! 3 

KiwiEnvelopes! 3 is a very neat and very nicely done DA for addressing
envelopes..I've written favorable messages about it to other people
and on various bulletin boards.

I bought my copy, paid for it, registered it, and have been using it.
But today it suddenly wanted me to re-register my name, company and
serial number in a dialog box before I could continue using it.  Since
I was using my Mac at my office, but the master floppy disk was safely
stored at home, this meant that not only the program itself, but all
the addresses stored within it, were suddenly unavailable, at a time when
I _needed_ them.

If this is some kind of hidden copy protection scheme -- with no
warning about it in the documentation -- I am NOT sympathetic to this
property, and won't be saying nice things about KiwiEnvelopes! in the
future...

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Date: 31 May 90 13:50:18 EDT
From: Steve.Handerson@nl.cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Launch MacII appls fr. Allegro, Supercard?

Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought a 
lisp but not necessarily mac person might have done this.

Does anyone have code or the procedure 
to launch a given Mac II application 
(with a specific document)
>From either Allegro or Supercard?

The former would be preferable.

Thanks in advance (and the other half on delivery...)
-- Steve

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 08:27:02 -0700
From: Dave Green <daveg@apple.com>
Subject: Mac-Spectrophotometer link

as long as the device speaks some normal baud rate, it shouldn't 
be a problem to write simple application to suck the information from
the thing and drop it into a comma delimited file for you.  I did this 
for a professor at school once for a portable spectrometer he wanted to
take into the field with his portable.  The only software they had
before this was some ibm pc stuff that wreaked.

if you have no experience programming or know of noone willing to do such
things, I might suggest a little experimentation with a terminal
emulation package on the mac to recieve the incoming data.  This would let
you capture the bits...   oh, yuk, this won't work...  they probably have 
some funky data formats, normalization factors, reference spectrographs,
etc...  

good luck,
D

this really isn't that hard....  3 days max programming for someone who
knows the macintosh.  
--
Disclaimer:I am me, Apple is Apple.  Why would you ever want to confuse us?
******************************************************************************
*            Dave Green               *  Scratch that, reverse it.           *
*            daveg@Apple.com          *                     Willie W         *
******************************************************************************

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 09:16:36 PDT
From: "Eric S. Boltz" <eboltz%JHUVMS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Monitor Woes

Mystery monitor problem.
Yesterday my Apple 13" RGB started to jitter when running the mouse accross
the menu bar with the button down. I have a IIci and I am using the built
in video with 5 MB of RAM. If anyone has any clue as to why my screen would
jitter please drop me a note.

Thanks in advance,

Eric S. Boltz
Materials Science and Engineering
The Johns Hopkins University
Bitnet : eboltz@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu

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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:24:36 -0500
From: Sue Klefstad <klefstad@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Resolving Font Conflicts

John Hill writes:
> Also, does anyone know if MasterJuggler can resolve [font] conflicts?

Yes it can.  The MasterJuggler ResConflicts utility will detect
font name and number conflicts.  Their Font/DA Utility will allow
manual renaming/renumbering to resolve the conflict.

--- Sue
Sue Klefstad
klefstad@uiuc.edu

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Date: Fri, 01 Jun 90 10:29:09 MST
From: James Fish <ISTJWF%ASUACAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Sharing Modem Port on Appletalk Network

Hello all!

I would like to know if there is software available that allows
Macs on an Appletalk network to share the modem port on a single
machine on the network.  Currently, one of the Mac SE's in our
Computer Aided Instruction lab has a direct connection to the
university's broadband system.  It is a 9600 baud connection and
uses standard modem communication software.  However, I would like to
allow other machines on the network to access this port - without
having to move the cable each time!

Any suggestions?  Thanks!

Jim Fish - Educational Support Program, Arizona State University

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 11:42 CDT
From: <GWEON%TAMVXEE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: StartupScreen at SE/30 with color monitor

Hi!
I have a SE/30 with 40 Mb internal, 105 Mb external HD and 8Mb memory.
Recently I purchased color monitor (Apple RGB) with RasterOops 264/30.
I expected that my cool StartupScreen would be displayed on my color
monitor at boot-up. But it wouldn't.
Do you have some idea?
 -------------------------------------------
Somebody asked about heat for 8Mb memory in SE/30.
I don't know whether it has an overheat in my computer.
But I'm a happy user. Since I purchased in Nov.1989, there were any problems.
 -------------------------------------------

Suncheol Gweon
Electro-optics Lab
Texas A&M University
Internet  gweon@ee.tamu.edu
Bitnet    gweon@tamvxee

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 13:17:00 EDT
From: Patrick Bray <bray@think.com>
Subject: Summary: Kinetics FastPath vs GatorBox

>From what I understand the FastPath box doesn't provide NFS mounting. We
have three GatorBoxes on three zones connected via ethernet. We have all our
printers on localtalk and use CAPS for printing from unix. The printing
setup works very well. However, with the amount of network traffic that we
have (remote logins, printing, QuickMail, GatorMail, AppleShare servers on
both ethernet and localtalk) the GatorBoxes do seem to bog down in the file
transfer/remote login arena. The FastPath is supposed to be faster but
more difficult to set up and maintain.  Cayman claims they have new software
that will give the GatorBox competitive speed, and if true will surely put
the GatorBox out in front.  Also, Cayman has the best tech service I've ever
dealt with.  That is a *big* plus on the side of any Cayman product.

I would also like to share with you some wisdom that I have gained in
building our network - plan well! That may sound like common sense, but have
you really thought about what your network is going to look like a year from
now? Are you going to have an overloaded gateway? Are users not going to be
able to login to unix without worrying about the gateway bottleneck? Are you
willing to spend time breaking your network up into smaller zones every
couple of months? If a large, growing, heavily-used Mac network is in your
future, sit down and give serious thought to ethernet cards (the cost ratio
to gateways is surprisingly good).  And I can certainly give a high
recommendation for the Cayman GatorCard. For price, performance and proven
tech support, the Cayman GatorCard is, in my humble opinion, the best card
on the market.



My opinions are solely my own and not those of Thinking Machines Corp.

Patrick Bray				Phone: (617) 876-1111 x2112
Thinking Machines Corp.			Fax: (617) 876-1823
245 First Street			E-Mail: bray@think.com
Cambridge,MA 02142-1214

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 12:19 +0200
From: TFFJS@fyvax1.fy.chalmers.se
Subject: Summary: Limiting the use of printers

I recently posted two problems to the digest:

> 
>1. In order to avoid the use of a colour postscript writer by mistake by not 
>deselecting the printer we are looking for a way to limit the number of 
>print commands that can be executed after using the "Chooser" command 
>to select a printer.
>
>2. As the colour printer will be connected to a large network we are 
>also looking for a way to restrict the use of the printer to "authorized 
>users" and to register the number of pages printed by each user.
>
>Has anybody solved these or similar problems?
>

Two persons have given suggestions on how to solve this type of problems. 
Several others have indicated that they have the same problems and are 
looking for solutions. The suggestions are as follows:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
The way we do it here is by using the AppleShare Print Spooler. We 
have two separate spooled LaserWriters, one for  stock jobs and one 
for special jobs. The one for stock jobs has a continuous queue and 
everything just prints  straight through. The one for  special jobs is 
always on *hold* until you come over and specifically  state that you 
want a particular job released for printing.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
We are in much the same situation... if someone comes up with a really nice
solution I would like to know about it.  In the meantime, here's what WE do:

1) some of the faculty have their own laser printers and are less than
   thrilled about students printing on them.  We named these printers things
   like "DO NOT USE! Blum's printer".  So far this seems to work.

2) we have a QMS ColorScript 100.  We are running Apple's PrintShare software
   on the fileserver.  We have this printer set up to accept (spool) print
   requests but not to print or allow bypass printing (the printer is turned
   off most of the time anyway).  Once a day or so, we go into the (locked)
   room with the fileserver and printer in it, turn OFF spooling, check the
   list of jobs to be printed for any suspicious ones, and then turn ON
   printing.  When the last job is done, we switch printing off, spooling on,
   and distribute the output.  Turnaround is slow, but again, so far it seems
   to work.

Obviously there MUST be better ways of doing this; however, we haven't been
clever enough to think of them...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

It seems as if there are presently no other (better) ways of solving the 
problems. I can presently reach 16 laserwriters via the Chooser, two of 
which are using the AppleShare Print Spooler. I suspect there is a 
growing market for software (hardware?) solutions to the above problems 
as the nets grow larger. Anybody listening?

A special thanks to the persons who took the time to respond.

Johan Swahn
tffjs@fyvax1.fy.chalmers.se
tffjs@secthf51.bitnet

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Date: Fri,  1-Jun-1990 13:53:40.73 CST
From: <rcd2403%tamchem.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> (R. C. Davis)
Subject: The Challenge ... who will dare?

Do you love PD/shareware?  Do you wait with baited breath for
your Info-Mac Digest and scan it manually for new software in
the archives?  Do you wish there was a quicker way to select
and retrieve that gem-of-a-program out of all the others
mentioned in the Digest?

Well, I don't have the magic software, I'm just trying to coax
some programming jocks to whip up something to speed the process.
The ideal (in my case) would be a program/stack that would:
(1) log in to the VAX; (2) scan the Digest, highlighting the
sections with software/reports/etc. and querying the user
whether or not they want to retrieve the file; (3) build a
list of files to ftp; (4) retrieve the files to the VAX and
(5) transfer the files to your Mac (via Kermit, Xmodem, etc.)

I would try this, but I would rather pay someone $10 to $25
in shareware fees for a well-written, robust program.  Any
takers?

Ricardo Davis
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Dept. of Chemistry                           THEnet:    CHEMVX::RCD2403
Texas A & M University                       BITnet:    RCD2403@TAMCHEM
College Station, TX  77843-3255  USA         Internet:  RCD2403@CHEMVX.TAMU.EDU
Telephone  (409) 845-0612
FAX        (409) 845-4719
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Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:52:27 EDT
From: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu ( Huangxin Wang)
Subject: Used MacTutor Wanted

Hi, netters,  I am a novice Mac programmer looking for the old issues of
MacTutor.  Is there anyone willing to share them with me?  I will pay for
it.  Just drop me a note.  Thanks.
		Huangxin Wang of University of Pennsylvania

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