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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 1 Jun 90 Volume 8 : Issue 109 Today's Topics: [*] Flower Maker [*] MacUser GenApp May '90 [*] Mandle Crawl [*] Synchronicity demo Allegro sound ANONYMITY, ETC. Anonymity-like ResEdits Area code DA Buying memory summary DiskExpress II GatorBoxen vs. The Kinetics FastPath Info-Mac Digest V8 #107 (2 msgs) Info-Mac Digest V8 #108 Inits on external drives kentmail KiwiEnvelopes! 3 Launch MacII appls fr. Allegro, Supercard? Mac-Spectrophotometer link Monitor Woes Resolving Font Conflicts Sharing Modem Port on Appletalk Network StartupScreen at SE/30 with color monitor Summary: Kinetics FastPath vs GatorBox Summary: Limiting the use of printers The Challenge ... who will dare? Used MacTutor Wanted Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 May 90 15:48:38 PDT From: stoms@pollux.ncgia.ucsb.edu Subject: [*] Flower Maker Flower Maker 1.1 Copyright 1990 Josh Pritikin - Tetrahedron Programming All rights reserved. Flower Maker is a program that plots polar equations. With ease you can create interesting pictures that look like exotic flowers. THINK C source included. Mailware: If you like this program send me a postcard or send email. I can be reached at: stoms@castor.ucsb.edu stoms@castor.ncgia.ucsb.edu Josh Pritikin 1404 Greenworth Place Santa Barbara, CA 93108 Don't forget to smile :-). [Archived as /info-mac/app/flower-maker.hqx; 36K] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 90 13:35:00 PDT From: atkins@manta.nosc.mil (Hugh T. Atkins) Subject: [*] MacUser GenApp May '90 The much-requested GenApp from MacUser May '90 [Archived as /info-mac/misc/macuser-genapp.hqx; 70K] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 90 15:49:15 PDT From: stoms@pollux.ncgia.ucsb.edu Subject: [*] Mandle Crawl Mandle Crawl v1.0 Copyright 1990 Josh Pritikin - Tetrahedron Programming Public Domain Mandle Crawl is a program that renders the Mandlebrot set real fast. In fact, I haven't seen any programs on the Mac that go faster. It uses a sneaky algorithm that crawls along the boarders of the set. Alas, the user interface isn't very good but it works. Color QuickDraw (8-bits) and a math coprocessor are required. THINK C source included. Mailware: If you like this program send me a postcard or send email. I can be reached at: stoms@castor.ucsb.edu stoms@castor.ncgia.ucsb.edu Josh Pritikin 1404 Greenworth Place Santa Barbara, CA 93108 Don't forget to smile :-). [Archived as /info-mac/app/mandel-crawl.hqx; 76K] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 90 09:57:36 EDT From: sasaki@umbc3.umbc.edu (Dr. Jim Sasaki (CMSC)) Subject: [*] Synchronicity demo Here is a copy of the demonstration version of Synchronicity, a program that advertises itself as a "mood-altering software experience". It's basically a decision tool based on the I Ching. It can be also viewed as a game. (A very slow moving game, by the way :-).) It has nice croaking frog sounds. As the manual warns, "Beware of all advice -- coming from any source -- unless it rings true for you." This demonstration version will work four times. [Archived as /info-mac/demo/synchronicity-part1.hqx; 170K /info-mac/demo/synchronicity-part2.hqx; 170K /info-mac/demo/synchronicity-part3.hqx; 168K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:55:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrance Paul McCartney <tm2e+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Allegro sound Does anyone know how to play one of the sounds stored on the System through Allegro Common Lisp? I know that (ed-beep) plays the default sound, but I would like to have a function that plays a specific sound given the resource id of the sound. Thanks, -Paul McCartney (tm2e@andrew.cmu.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 90 08:39:06 EDT From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov Subject: ANONYMITY, ETC. >From: <RSKEG%SUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> > When I get a new piece of software, I never run it from the floppy. > I copy it directly from the floppy to the hard disk, and *then* I run > it. The first run is generally when it asks you to enter all that > registation info, and since it's the hard disk copy that's getting > the information, and not the master copy, it's a very simple matter > to replace the "branded" hard drive copy with an "anonymous" copy > from the master in the event of a misspelling or transfer of the > software to someone else. > > Please don't tell me that I'm the only one who ever thought of this > solution. Certainly not. But that doesn't stop the ditsy summer student from opening a software box, popping the master into the drive, double-clicking on the brand-new copy of Word 4.0, and typing in her cute little name when the dialog asks for it instead of clicking past it the way the rest of us do. Without Anonymity and similar software, your professional office is stuck with having to see little Boo-boo's name (misspelled probably, and bearing some appendage like "Typist Extraordinaire") fly up in its users' faces for years to come. (The above is only a slight exaggeration...) BTW--My personal copy of Word has something even sillier than the above, but on a working copy only (not the master) and nobody sees it but me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 23:23:48 PDT From: Tom Lincoln <lincoln%iris@rand.org> Subject: Anonymity-like ResEdits Graeme Forbes writes Wed, 30 May 90: >[It] would be useful would be if [one could] remove some of the startup >displays. Can this be done ...? Is it safe, or do you trash the application? Sure it can be done! Easily with ResEdit 2.0. Just remove the MacPaint PICT from the PICT resource or replace it with another one. I prefer a scanned in picture.. which gives a whole new meaning to "This software belongs to..." And it's easier on the eye.. It can still give the credits if they are in text overwrite... Make the new cut and paste from MacPaint the same size as the logo window on the screen unless you want to go to more work... I'll post an example for MacWrite 5.0 as MacMary Tom Lincoln p q \|/ /|\ TOM LINCOLN lincoln@rand.org \|/ "Life is short, art is long, opportunity fugitive, /|\ experimenting dangerous, reasoning difficult." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 90 11:08:07 MDT From: ZZMLAB%UALTAVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Area code DA Some time ago, I saw a posting about a desk accessory that allows you to look up area codes. Does anyone know the name of this program and where it is posted? Thanks in advance. Reg Oake ZZMLAB@UALTAVM ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 90 14:07:15 GMT From: wsinkees@win.tue.nl (Kees Huizing) Subject: Buying memory summary Pieter Stouten <STOUTEN%EMBL.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes: >time to get such merchandise cleared by customs (we did not have to pay any >tax, but one should realize that e.g. Germany typically charges 15% import >tax for semi-conductor materials) and 2) the chips might not be in stock WARNING: in Holland -- and most other European countries -- you have to pay VAT when you import things from the States. The Dutch rate is 18.5%, I guess that other European countries have about the same figure. Futhermore, you have to pay about 4% import tax on computer stuff, unless it comes from another member of the common market. When I ordered some memory chips, a third company in Holland called Wassing took care of this and charged me Dfl 120 ($60) for this service! I am still trying to find out how to avoid this in future. I once bought some second-hand software, which passed the customs without any trouble. I don't know whether this was correct or not. All in all both packets took about a week to arrive. The first by UPS ($39), including time spent at this ****** handling company, and the second by air mail ($3). Also note that many mail order companies have some contract or policy that forces them to ship by a specific mailer. Across the Atlantic, this is very expensive -- and do you need those few days? >****************************************************** >** TECHNOLOGY WORKS >4030 Braker Lane West >Austin, TX 78759 >Toll free: (800) 622-2210 >telefax: (512) 794-8520 >-> Technology WORKS is pretty good. 70ns SIMMs for $98/meg. Includes Torx, >installation guide, etc. Will send it COD; accepts visa, M/C, etc. ^^^ what's this? They told me they only ship by UPS and Federal Express. In April, 70ns SIMMs cost $79 *University Price*. They sold us Siemens chips. Better than all that Asian stuff, huh? -- Kees Huizing - Eindhoven Univ of Techn - Dept Math & Comp Sc - The Netherlands DOMAIN: wsinkees@win.tue.nl BITNET: wsdckeesh@heitue5 FAX: +31-40-436685 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:21:40 -0500 From: Sue Klefstad <klefstad@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: DiskExpress II Doug Larrick writes: > I would still recommend [DiskExpress II], however, as it IS > the only program that I know of that can consolidate free space. SUM II by Symantec has a disk TuneUp utility that will consolidate free space. The Optimize Volume TuneUp option needs to be selected when the TuneUp is run. (It also has a Defragment Files option.) --- Sue Sue Klefstad klefstad@uiuc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 13:02:35 PDT From: radius!lemke@apple.com (Steve Lemke) Subject: GatorBoxen vs. The Kinetics FastPath In comp.sys.mac.digest you write: > OK.... based on the desire to hang a collection of Mac II, SE/30, >SE and + off of a SUN Ethernet to take advantage of NFS access to the >big disks, which is better, Gator or Kinetics? There is also a >LaserWriter to be considered; it is currently connected to a SUN >and should be accessible to the Mac population. If you intend to use NFS (and make it look like AppleShare) then you would be better off with the Gatorbox since you can get GatorShare software for it (which automatically does the NFS/AFP translation). > The other consideration is a preference for using Public Domain >software like KIP/CAP and POP (for mail) rather than costly commercial >software. Oh, you want PD stuff... Well, in that case, I guess it doesn't really matter which you use. But, if you want the OPTION of using GatorShare if you have problems with the KIP/CAP stuff, then the Gatorbox is the way to go. We have both here (six FastPaths, two GatorBoxes), and from what I recall, we are only ordering GatorBoxes in the future (I think). Either one is capable (with the latest software) of allocating dynamic IP addresses to Macs on the LocalTalk side, in case you want to do Telnet stuff. I've seen this work on the Kinetics, but we haven't got the latest (1.5) Cayman software yet. > Please Email direct. I'll summarize if the response warrants it. >Regards, >Loki Jorgenson node: loki@physics.mcgill.ca >Physics, McGill University fax: (514) 398-3733 >Montreal Quebec CANADA phone: (514) 398-6531 --Steve -- ----- Steve Lemke, Engineering Quality Assurance, Radius Inc., San Jose ----- ----- Reply to: lemke@radius.com (Note: NEW domain-style address!!) ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:30 CDT From: ADUS10@jetson.uh.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #107 I read with much interest the mail from Karl Pottie about Grappler. He mentioned that the Grappler LQ, although not postscript, will allow the Mac to print to an HP compatible laser printer. The device connects to the centronics interface on the printer???? what is this, where is this?? I would like more information obout this and how it might be used to connect a Mac to the HP LaserJet Series II. I am currently trying to find a solution for one of our users who is connected to the HP and using PrintWorks, there are also PC's connected, all go straight to the HP printer into an Extended Systems card in the printer. I know HP is coming out with AppleTalk soon but these computers are not on a network. I could network them but maybe the Grappler solution is easier. By the way, Printworks is not worth the trouble, I would not recommend it to anyone. Karl, please send me more info, or suggestions. Thanks much. Jeana C. Rogers User Specialist II University of Houston ADUS10@JETSON.UH.EDU OR JROGERS@UHOU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 14:18:29 CDT From: delliott@cec2.wustl.edu (Dave Elliott) Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #107 Re: John Daspit's letter. It would be wise for any archive manager to look up the current copyright law about fair use... or ask an intellectual-property expert. The problem about clip art is that not all of it is being used on a single-copy "fair use" basis; it gets into the hands of desktop publishers who may use it commercially or in large quantities. Such as person may well be sued by Disney, or the publisher of a skin mag, or an artist; in that case the legal position of the archive is doubtful. Personally I would take no chance, in this litigious age, of getting myself or my organization into such a hassle. ... No, I don't wait at broken stop signals :-) Dept. of Systems Science and Mathematics Washington University St. Louis, MO 63130. (314)-889-6092 FAX (314)-726-4434 delliott@CEC2.WUSTL.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 08:39 CDT From: ADUS10@jetson.uh.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #108 We have been using Omnipage for almost 2 years now. I wouldn't use anything else. I has very good character recognition, find and replace, so you can edit before you even export the file, and with the new optional product can even recognize dot matrix print from an ImageWriter II. We have scanned extensive documents that were "lost" on Macs and had no problems.... Go for it!!! No, I don't sell OmniPage or have any connection to the company that does. I just like the product. Jeana C. Rogers User Specialist II University of Houston ADUS10@Jetson.uh.edu or JROGERS@UHOU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 10:07:16 EDT From: mikef <MIKEF%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Inits on external drives Fellow Netters, I've recently switched machines from a Mac SE to a Mac SE/30 without a Hard drive. My boss supplied me with a Quantum 170Mg external hard disk for the SE/30. I had a few problems getting the 30 to bootup with the external, but I've solved that problem, but now when I add my inits such as: Virex 1.5, Shield Init, etc. the system hangs when trying to boot from the external. I have Moire cdev and that seems to load fine, but once it tries to load the inits it's all over (system freeze). Quantum shipped the disk formatted and with system 6.0.5. I discarded the 6.0.5 system folder and installed with 6.0.3. I then found the installer that came with the SE/30 6.0.4 and updated the system. No matter what I've tried the machine only boots if there is no inits in the system folder. Any advice would be well taken. Thanks in advance for those who can help! Thanx Mikef Mikef@YaleVm.Bitnet I hope I've made myself clear, if not send me a line. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 10:54:13 EDT From: "j.burke" <@ksuvxa.kent.edu:CSLIBSHP@KENTVM.BITNET> Subject: kentmail Ignore subject given above, its an error. This concerns anonymity and another query. I vote in favor of anonymity. Case 1: system installer personalized our MASTER disks with the name of the department head, not the department or school. The programs he did this to look odd every time they are booted - a change is surely in order here. Case 2: I have worked from copies, but have experienced some companies' procedures (I'm thinking of a capital M, I'm thinking of a capital S) are not documented, and do not warn of character limitations. I have entered a 25-character name only to find it gets truncated halfway through. Looks stupid, and in disgust I now de-fang disks by entering blank space. Query: A colleague is looking for affordable OCR for his PC (note, not Mac) Does anyone have kudos or caveats for hand-held scanners with OCR software? I have found several articles, including a recent review in PC Week, but would like to hear testimonials. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 09:31:47 PDT From: siegman@sierra.stanford.edu (Anthony E. Siegman) Subject: KiwiEnvelopes! 3 KiwiEnvelopes! 3 is a very neat and very nicely done DA for addressing envelopes..I've written favorable messages about it to other people and on various bulletin boards. I bought my copy, paid for it, registered it, and have been using it. But today it suddenly wanted me to re-register my name, company and serial number in a dialog box before I could continue using it. Since I was using my Mac at my office, but the master floppy disk was safely stored at home, this meant that not only the program itself, but all the addresses stored within it, were suddenly unavailable, at a time when I _needed_ them. If this is some kind of hidden copy protection scheme -- with no warning about it in the documentation -- I am NOT sympathetic to this property, and won't be saying nice things about KiwiEnvelopes! in the future... ------------------------------ Date: 31 May 90 13:50:18 EDT From: Steve.Handerson@nl.cs.cmu.edu Subject: Launch MacII appls fr. Allegro, Supercard? Sorry for the cross-posting, but I thought a lisp but not necessarily mac person might have done this. Does anyone have code or the procedure to launch a given Mac II application (with a specific document) >From either Allegro or Supercard? The former would be preferable. Thanks in advance (and the other half on delivery...) -- Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 08:27:02 -0700 From: Dave Green <daveg@apple.com> Subject: Mac-Spectrophotometer link as long as the device speaks some normal baud rate, it shouldn't be a problem to write simple application to suck the information from the thing and drop it into a comma delimited file for you. I did this for a professor at school once for a portable spectrometer he wanted to take into the field with his portable. The only software they had before this was some ibm pc stuff that wreaked. if you have no experience programming or know of noone willing to do such things, I might suggest a little experimentation with a terminal emulation package on the mac to recieve the incoming data. This would let you capture the bits... oh, yuk, this won't work... they probably have some funky data formats, normalization factors, reference spectrographs, etc... good luck, D this really isn't that hard.... 3 days max programming for someone who knows the macintosh. -- Disclaimer:I am me, Apple is Apple. Why would you ever want to confuse us? ****************************************************************************** * Dave Green * Scratch that, reverse it. * * daveg@Apple.com * Willie W * ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 09:16:36 PDT From: "Eric S. Boltz" <eboltz%JHUVMS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Monitor Woes Mystery monitor problem. Yesterday my Apple 13" RGB started to jitter when running the mouse accross the menu bar with the button down. I have a IIci and I am using the built in video with 5 MB of RAM. If anyone has any clue as to why my screen would jitter please drop me a note. Thanks in advance, Eric S. Boltz Materials Science and Engineering The Johns Hopkins University Bitnet : eboltz@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 12:24:36 -0500 From: Sue Klefstad <klefstad@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Resolving Font Conflicts John Hill writes: > Also, does anyone know if MasterJuggler can resolve [font] conflicts? Yes it can. The MasterJuggler ResConflicts utility will detect font name and number conflicts. Their Font/DA Utility will allow manual renaming/renumbering to resolve the conflict. --- Sue Sue Klefstad klefstad@uiuc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 90 10:29:09 MST From: James Fish <ISTJWF%ASUACAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Sharing Modem Port on Appletalk Network Hello all! I would like to know if there is software available that allows Macs on an Appletalk network to share the modem port on a single machine on the network. Currently, one of the Mac SE's in our Computer Aided Instruction lab has a direct connection to the university's broadband system. It is a 9600 baud connection and uses standard modem communication software. However, I would like to allow other machines on the network to access this port - without having to move the cable each time! Any suggestions? Thanks! Jim Fish - Educational Support Program, Arizona State University ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 11:42 CDT From: <GWEON%TAMVXEE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: StartupScreen at SE/30 with color monitor Hi! I have a SE/30 with 40 Mb internal, 105 Mb external HD and 8Mb memory. Recently I purchased color monitor (Apple RGB) with RasterOops 264/30. I expected that my cool StartupScreen would be displayed on my color monitor at boot-up. But it wouldn't. Do you have some idea? ------------------------------------------- Somebody asked about heat for 8Mb memory in SE/30. I don't know whether it has an overheat in my computer. But I'm a happy user. Since I purchased in Nov.1989, there were any problems. ------------------------------------------- Suncheol Gweon Electro-optics Lab Texas A&M University Internet gweon@ee.tamu.edu Bitnet gweon@tamvxee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 13:17:00 EDT From: Patrick Bray <bray@think.com> Subject: Summary: Kinetics FastPath vs GatorBox >From what I understand the FastPath box doesn't provide NFS mounting. We have three GatorBoxes on three zones connected via ethernet. We have all our printers on localtalk and use CAPS for printing from unix. The printing setup works very well. However, with the amount of network traffic that we have (remote logins, printing, QuickMail, GatorMail, AppleShare servers on both ethernet and localtalk) the GatorBoxes do seem to bog down in the file transfer/remote login arena. The FastPath is supposed to be faster but more difficult to set up and maintain. Cayman claims they have new software that will give the GatorBox competitive speed, and if true will surely put the GatorBox out in front. Also, Cayman has the best tech service I've ever dealt with. That is a *big* plus on the side of any Cayman product. I would also like to share with you some wisdom that I have gained in building our network - plan well! That may sound like common sense, but have you really thought about what your network is going to look like a year from now? Are you going to have an overloaded gateway? Are users not going to be able to login to unix without worrying about the gateway bottleneck? Are you willing to spend time breaking your network up into smaller zones every couple of months? If a large, growing, heavily-used Mac network is in your future, sit down and give serious thought to ethernet cards (the cost ratio to gateways is surprisingly good). And I can certainly give a high recommendation for the Cayman GatorCard. For price, performance and proven tech support, the Cayman GatorCard is, in my humble opinion, the best card on the market. My opinions are solely my own and not those of Thinking Machines Corp. Patrick Bray Phone: (617) 876-1111 x2112 Thinking Machines Corp. Fax: (617) 876-1823 245 First Street E-Mail: bray@think.com Cambridge,MA 02142-1214 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 12:19 +0200 From: TFFJS@fyvax1.fy.chalmers.se Subject: Summary: Limiting the use of printers I recently posted two problems to the digest: > >1. In order to avoid the use of a colour postscript writer by mistake by not >deselecting the printer we are looking for a way to limit the number of >print commands that can be executed after using the "Chooser" command >to select a printer. > >2. As the colour printer will be connected to a large network we are >also looking for a way to restrict the use of the printer to "authorized >users" and to register the number of pages printed by each user. > >Has anybody solved these or similar problems? > Two persons have given suggestions on how to solve this type of problems. Several others have indicated that they have the same problems and are looking for solutions. The suggestions are as follows: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The way we do it here is by using the AppleShare Print Spooler. We have two separate spooled LaserWriters, one for stock jobs and one for special jobs. The one for stock jobs has a continuous queue and everything just prints straight through. The one for special jobs is always on *hold* until you come over and specifically state that you want a particular job released for printing. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= We are in much the same situation... if someone comes up with a really nice solution I would like to know about it. In the meantime, here's what WE do: 1) some of the faculty have their own laser printers and are less than thrilled about students printing on them. We named these printers things like "DO NOT USE! Blum's printer". So far this seems to work. 2) we have a QMS ColorScript 100. We are running Apple's PrintShare software on the fileserver. We have this printer set up to accept (spool) print requests but not to print or allow bypass printing (the printer is turned off most of the time anyway). Once a day or so, we go into the (locked) room with the fileserver and printer in it, turn OFF spooling, check the list of jobs to be printed for any suspicious ones, and then turn ON printing. When the last job is done, we switch printing off, spooling on, and distribute the output. Turnaround is slow, but again, so far it seems to work. Obviously there MUST be better ways of doing this; however, we haven't been clever enough to think of them... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It seems as if there are presently no other (better) ways of solving the problems. I can presently reach 16 laserwriters via the Chooser, two of which are using the AppleShare Print Spooler. I suspect there is a growing market for software (hardware?) solutions to the above problems as the nets grow larger. Anybody listening? A special thanks to the persons who took the time to respond. Johan Swahn tffjs@fyvax1.fy.chalmers.se tffjs@secthf51.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1-Jun-1990 13:53:40.73 CST From: <rcd2403%tamchem.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> (R. C. Davis) Subject: The Challenge ... who will dare? Do you love PD/shareware? Do you wait with baited breath for your Info-Mac Digest and scan it manually for new software in the archives? Do you wish there was a quicker way to select and retrieve that gem-of-a-program out of all the others mentioned in the Digest? Well, I don't have the magic software, I'm just trying to coax some programming jocks to whip up something to speed the process. The ideal (in my case) would be a program/stack that would: (1) log in to the VAX; (2) scan the Digest, highlighting the sections with software/reports/etc. and querying the user whether or not they want to retrieve the file; (3) build a list of files to ftp; (4) retrieve the files to the VAX and (5) transfer the files to your Mac (via Kermit, Xmodem, etc.) I would try this, but I would rather pay someone $10 to $25 in shareware fees for a well-written, robust program. Any takers? Ricardo Davis .............................................................................. Dept. of Chemistry THEnet: CHEMVX::RCD2403 Texas A & M University BITnet: RCD2403@TAMCHEM College Station, TX 77843-3255 USA Internet: RCD2403@CHEMVX.TAMU.EDU Telephone (409) 845-0612 FAX (409) 845-4719 .............................................................................. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:52:27 EDT From: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu ( Huangxin Wang) Subject: Used MacTutor Wanted Hi, netters, I am a novice Mac programmer looking for the old issues of MacTutor. Is there anyone willing to share them with me? I will pay for it. Just drop me a note. Thanks. Huangxin Wang of University of Pennsylvania ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************