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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 5 Jun 90 Volume 8 : Issue 111 Today's Topics: 2 unrelated Q's: Tektronix 4693D & AppleShare name in Chooser Acius' 4th Dimension Artwork... Buying memory summary Copyright Copyright Law (was: Re: Mickey Mouse Argument) Creator type Fonts for ImageWriter LQ GCC WriteImpact Hard Disk Security (Access Managed Environment) How can I get PICT(2) files into FreeHand? Joining Files (SUM) mac MacTutor Need uuencode/uudecode for the Mac Screen distrubance after installing a HD Solarian on a RasterOps 264 Steriod Trojan -- WARNING! Submission for comp-sys-mac-digest System 7.0 on new machines Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 11:51:47 PDT From: G.Munroe%V1.QUB.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: 2 unrelated Q's: Tektronix 4693D & AppleShare name in Chooser I've just taken charge of the Tektronix Mac II interface for the 4693D colour thermal transfer plotter. Works a treat but they told me that it was an Appletalk (Localtalk) interface and all I've got is a direct parallel. Anyone know if this thing can be networked ? Also I tried putting in 32 bit QuickDraw and using the supplied TekColour program for matching the screen colours exactly - it warned me this might take a while but I wanted to see what it could do - the system froze up after a couple of minutes (I was printing an imported EPSF file from FreeHand 2.0 on a IIci). Anyone tried this ? I'm also nearly through arranging our general access machines (SE/30's) - just one link in the chain needed to make the lot failsafe (wishful thinking) - I need to get the Appleshare Username supplied at startup into the chooser name and locked there so that i) the usage log (courtesy of LaunchInit 2) keeps a record of who's doing what and ii) the printer log on the server (Apple's PrintServer) tells me who's printed what. I'd be grateful for any suggestions or sample code (preferably LSC) to give me a start. Thanks in anticipation, George Munroe, Queen's University Belfast ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 08:21:30 -0700 From: That's MR. Idiot to you <chuq@apple.com> Subject: Acius' 4th Dimension You can't use the standard Import Data, but you can write your own custom import routine to do it. A pain, but possible. One reason why I hate subfiles. (and with relations, there's really little reason to use them). -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> chuq@apple.com <+> [This is myself speaking] It isn't easy being green. -- Kermit ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 13:30:28 -0400 From: dmg@mwunix.mitre.org (David M. Gursky) Subject: Artwork... Can someone point me to a source for very large (1024 x 768 x 256) artwork for the Mac? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 15:23 +0100 From: Pieter Stouten <STOUTEN%EMBL.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Buying memory summary In Info-Mac Digest, Fri, 1 Jun 90, V 8 #109 Kees Huizing replies to an earlier posting of mine: >WARNING: in Holland -- and most other European countries -- you have to pay >VAT when you import things from the States. The Dutch rate is 18.5%, I guess >that other European countries have about the same figure. Futhermore, you >have to pay about 4% import tax on computer stuff, unless it comes from >another member of the common market. When I ordered some memory chips, a >third company in Holland called Wassing took care of this and charged me Dfl >120 ($60) for this service! >I am still trying to find out how to avoid this in future. >I once bought some second-hand software, which passed the customs without >any trouble. I don't know whether this was correct or not. I already mentioned in the original posting that Germany typically charges 15% import tax for semi-conductor materials. You can be lucky, however. I once ordered two almost identical shipments of books from Japan. Once they arrived to me in Holland without additional costs and the second time I had to pay tax. There does not seem to be a consistent behaviour. The same seems to hold for Germany and Belgium too. >All in all both packets took about a week to arrive. The first by UPS >($39), including time spent at this ****** handling company, and the second >by air mail ($3). >Also note that many mail order companies have some contract or policy >that forces them to ship by a specific mailer. Across the Atlantic, this is >very expensive -- and do you need those few days? In my note on "Buying memory" I also wrote that returning damaged chips and receiving new ones together took only 11 days. So it can be fast if the chips are in stock and if customs act swiftly (it seems German customs are not so fast). I wanted to stress only that it might take considerable time. The company where we bought our chips was prepared to deal with any carrier service that their customers would pick. Furthermore Kees asks what COD is. It means something like Cash on Delivery (Rembours would be the Dutch word that covers it, I'd say). >They told me they only ship by UPS and Federal Express. In April, 70ns >SIMMs cost $79 *University Price*. They sold us Siemens chips. Better than >all that Asian stuff, huh? I don't know whether Asian stuff is worse. A decade or so ago, in Europe one would buy a European stereo set, not a Japanese one. Nowadays the standard is Japanese: good and cheaper. I know Samsung is Korean, but that is one of the cheap production countries of today. The chips have a 5 year warranty, anyway. Kees, I hope "the grapes are not sour" because you payed all-in-all far more than necessary. Pieter. #### ## ## ### # Pieter Stouten # # # # # # # # EMBL, Biocomputing Programme ### # # # ### # Meyerhofstrasse 1, 6900 Heidelberg, West Germany # # # # # # Bitnet: Stouten@EMBL Phone: +49-6221-387 472 #### # # ### #### Telex: 461613 embl d Fax: +49-6221-387 306 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 16:11:15 MDT From: daspit%zodiac@johns.Stanford.EDU (John Daspit, C.U. LASP, (303)492-6951) Subject: Copyright Hi netters, Just one more comment about the already exhausted subject of posting scanned art: OK, my apologies if my last letter to the net was a bit strongly worded... My main point is: It seems logical that legal action would only be possible if 1) The artwork was sold for a profit (in which case the person or company holding the rights to it would be entitled to some or all of the proceeds) or 2) The posting of the artwork in some way deprived the owner of profits that they would otherwise have made or 3) The owner of the artwork simply requested that it not be posted in the first place, for whatever reason. If the artwork happens to fall into the hands of those who would try to make a profit off of it then this is the time for legal action against THEM. The obvious best solution is not to post such artwork until the permission of the owner is obtained, or if not possible, until a reasonable determination can be made about an item being in the 'public domain'. It just rubs me the wrong way to have people give the wonderful folks who moderate the INFO-MAC grief about such a minor transgression (IF transgression it is) since there really is no 'victim' in this scenario, and in fact (as I said before) it could even be seen as free advertisement for the owners of the artwork. I realize that the original comments to INFO-MAC about this were just suggesting that they 'keep their tails covered', so I agree that it's probably a good idea to check it out with the owners first. Enough said, and THANKS to the INFO-MAC moderators for all their hard work!!! John Daspit DASPIT@COLOLASP [Thank you, John. But since the law seems to be clear in this area, I have removed the files. My conscience is also clear! -Bill] ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 90 22:40:58 GMT From: rose%beowulf@ucsd.edu (Dan Rose) Subject: Copyright Law (was: Re: Mickey Mouse Argument) Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes: >My personal feeling is that copyright is an obsolescent idea in the >age of electronic scanning, networking, sound sampling, and digital >copying. Copyright itself is a concept associated with the Printing >Age; you don't need copyright protection when the only copying tool is >a quill pen. When the printing press became available as a copying >tool, the initial cost of making (even one) copy via typesetting was >so great that only pirates who intended to sell copies would make >them. Copyright law protects not only the economic but also the artistic rights of the author. If I paint a picture, I have a right to decide how, if at all, it is "published." Maybe I don't want it copied because I don't like that version; maybe I don't think your printing technology does the colors justice; maybe I don't want it distributed in South Africa. It doesn't matter how good or bad my reasons are or whether they have to do with money. According to the law (U.S. Copyright Act of 1976), section 106: The owner of copyright . . . has the *exclusive* [my emphasis] right to do and to authorize any of the following: (1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies . . . ; (2) to prepare derivative works . . . ; (3) to distribute copies . . . to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending; (4) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, . . . and other audiovisual works; to perform the copyrighted work publicly; and (5) in the case of literary, . . . pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, . . . to display the copyrighted work publicly. >...Today's concept of "fair use" responds to the relative ease of >making copies (e.g., via Xerox) by legitimatizing single copies made >for personal use under certain conditions (which include "lack of >economic impact on the copyright holder" or something to that effect). Though the fair use exemption probably wasn't necessary before cheap photocopying was widely available, it doesn't depend in any way on the availability of the copies but rather on their use. Section 107: Notwithstanding the provisions of Sec. 106, the fair use of a copyrighted work . . . for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching . . ., scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. . . . I hope this mix of federal statute and personal opinion is useful! Dan -- Dan Rose {ucbvax,decvax,akgua,dcdwest}!sdcsvax!beowulf!rose.uucp UC San Diego rose%cs@ucsd.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 90 09:55:41 EDT From: Jean Brunet <R31631%UQAM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Creator type Hi! I would like, within a programm called TOTO, assign to a file a different creator name than the one associated with TOTO. For instance if the creator of TOTO is ABCD, I would like that the file generated by TOTO be QWER. I would appreciate if one could tell me how to do this. Please reply directly to me at: R31631@UQAM (Bitnet). Thanks in advance. PS. The language used is Absoft Fortran. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 90 15:26 From: "Peter Maurer" <RY06%DKAUNI2.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Fonts for ImageWriter LQ Hi, I'm working with a Mac IIci an an ImageWriter LQ. With the four fonts comming with the LQ up to 72pt size, the printing results are good enough for my purpouse. But I need more fonts with good printing quality. Are there any other fonts like the LQ Fonts (Times,Helvetica,Courier & Symbol) in sizes up to *at least* 72pts. Or does anybody know a way, to use post-script fonts for this purpouse ? Please answer directly, I will summarize for the list, if there is enough interest. Peter :-) ***************************************************** Peter Maurer RY06@DKAUNI2 (DEARN) Computer Center Univ. Karlsruhe, West Germany Programmers Information Service ***************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 10:24 CDT From: JSCHACHTER@nuacc.acns.nwu.edu Subject: GCC WriteImpact I do not know if this has been discussed before, so please forgive the possible redundancy of this posting. A friend of mine is looking to buy a printer for his Macintosh, and does not want to buy an ImageWriter II. Does anyone have any information on the GCC WriteImpact as an alternative to the ImageWriter II? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 1990 11:59:12 CDT From: T1F4387@venus.tamu.edu (Michael Farlow aka Captain Video) Subject: Hard Disk Security (Access Managed Environment) In a recent issue, Chip Ekardt writes... >Does anyone out there know where to obtain either MacClone or >Double Ganger? These programs let you show pseudo icons of applications >that are really just launch documents. The result is that a user >double clicks on an icon (for example Word) and it runs just like the >application normally would. The nice thing about these launch >documents is that the user can only copy the launch document; not >the application itself! The reason that I am interested in something >like this is that we are trying to find some way to stop illegal >copying of software in a campus Mac lab. > >Second item; in an attempt to control viruses and users deleting >programs, System files, etc. I am looking at two options. Installing >a server and running Apple Share. With this option I would regularly >monitor the server but leave the local hard drives up for grabs (possibly >reformatting them once a week?) The second alternative is to monitor >each hard drive on each Mac. >The lab consists of six Mac IIs with 40 meg hard drives, color monitors, >a LaserWriter and an ImageWriter running under AppleTalk (LocalTalk). >The lab is used almost exclusively by the art department. The Macs are >running graphics programs (Swivel 3D, Quark Express, Illustrator 88, etc.) >These programs are not only large but they also create very large >document files. Because of the size of documents we need to have the >Users have access to local disk storage. Any suggestions on >configurations and/or software. We are currently running GateKeeper. >I will summarize the response to the net. Thanks for any help! >Chip Eckardt F542723.@UWEC.BITNET Chip, I have the answer to both the copy protection and the virus protection questions. Access Managed Environment (AME)from Cassady and Greene, Inc. From a recent MacWEEK advertisement, it lists the following features: * Security & Virus Protection * Logs software and hardware activities * Protects against illegal copying * Prevents launching of unauthorized programs (incl. Trojan Horses) * Multiple levels of Users with individual/Group access controls * _Specific_ Desk Acessory control * Multiple encryption/password options I called their 800 number and got to talk to one of the main ppl (a V.P. I think) and he said that it is probably one of the premier bits of software for computer security. I suggest that you call them and ask your questions. Their phone number is 800-359-4920. Michael Farlow Texas A&M Computer Services Center ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 22:03 GMT From: Big Nose <LAWA%IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: How can I get PICT(2) files into FreeHand? Dear All, I have a series of graphs in PICT(2) format which I would like to colourise and generally tart up prior to turning them into slides for a conference. I would like to do the touching up in Freehand, but the only way that I can find to get the PICT images into this package is via the clipboard, and that results in all my multitude of lines and circles becoming one object in the background. I have tried using the Adobe DrawOver program to convert the file into Illustrator and then save it out as an EPS file, but that only gave the same results. I need to maintain individual lines as individual objects so I can colourise properly. Firstly, does anyone have any suggestions? Secondly, are there any shareware, PD etc programs available that will perform the necessary PICT(2) to acf3 conversion? Thirdly, if the answer to question 2 is "No", where can I get hold of the definitions of PICT(2) and acf3 file formats so that I can write my own. Thanks in advance, Andy Law. LAWA@UK.AC.AFRC.IAPE Big Nose in Edinburgh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 90 15:49 From: "Peter Maurer" <RY06%DKAUNI2.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Joining Files (SUM) Hi, First of all, I have to thank all of you, who answered to my question how to join .hqx files from the archives. I've got about 15 notes so far. There seem to be three diffrent ways, joining those splitted files: 1.) To use "unity 3.11", archived in /info-mac/util/unity-311.hqx at the stanford mashine, wich performs the task for two or more files. 2.) To use the computer wich is connected to internet with its own commands ( for instance the cat - command in UNIX ) 3.) With any text-editor on the macintosh by copying the contense of the second file behind the first one. Thanks again Peter :-) *************************************************** Peter Maurer RY06@DKAUNI2@DEARN Computer Center Univ. Karlsruhe, West Germany Programmers Information Service *************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Jun 90 08:32:11 EDT From: Clare Durst <CCD@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: mac Since no one else has yet (but moderator, please delete mine if others do post), I'll describe a little bit of System 7 as demonstrated at MacAdemia in Rochester this past week, because in particular network administrators (as I am) should know what to anticipate in order to plan last-minute fiscal year purchases. Chris Espinosa, who was apparently There in the Garage with Steve and Steve, made the presentation and altho it's promised by the first of the year, no sooner, there were no crashes. There is indeed the set-aside of applications under multifinder. There is the "no flush the trash until I say so". There are "alias" documents that can be created (1k); they open a DOCUMENT from whatever folder they live in even tho that document isn't there (sort of like having a template that opens an APPLICATION from within a folder without the app being there). Should be very useful. There is a good find utility. Linkage between files so that changing a file in one application will update it in another. But it will without question require hard disks for each and every machine running it, and 2m ram at the minimum (although Espinosa was quite clear, it will run at least the finder and one application with 2m, no more). He is anticipating that Apple may bundle simms with "a good price" (but not, he admitted, "anywhere near what you can get from those fly-by-night places in the back of MacWeek")(which annoys those of us who know that a lot of those dealers like Chip Merchant have been around for years) for net admins to do bulk upgrades. No plans to do likewise with hard disks. There will be a system much like TOPS which will let users publish folders on their own hard disks to the general use of people on the Appleshare network. Now, this will mean two easily envisioned things at least: one, that network traffic can be diminished if, say, boss and secretary share files with one another on one another's hard disks and no one else can get into them; that should be great. And since you have to buy all those hard disks anyhow, YOU WON'T NEED TO BUY LARGER AND LARGER SERVER HARD DISKS but can utilize the hard disk space left after the humongous system file. But for all you guys out there in Consortium schools who have apple "orchards" of row after row of double-floppy SEs or plusses - there may be major problems. And backups, in any event, will be infinitely complicated (you'll undoubtedly be able to buy software to look for all mounted server volumes and back them all up over one, but you also have to make sure all those hard disks are turned ON, for instance). And Apple is intent on making System 7 THE operating system which will be bundled with every machine and will run on every machine from the plus on up, within a year or so after introduction. It will be possible to run sys 6 and 7 simultaneously on a network. I think in my own case I'm going to wait a while on buying all those hard disks - anyone forsee drops in costs? The system as he showed it takes up an immense amount of room although they will have an installer that will be quite precisely customized. Welcome to the future! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 17:22:46 EDT From: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu ( Huangxin Wang) Subject: MacTutor I asked about the back issues of the MacTutor magazine. The advice all people give me is that the best bet is to get the set: Best of Mactutor. I just call them, the address: (from lindahl@evax.arl.utexas.edu) MacTutor The Macintosh Programming Journal P.O. Box 4000 1240 Van Buren, #105 Placentia, CA 92670 Anaheim, CA 92807 (714) 777-1255 Volume year Price 1 1985 5 2 1986 10 3 1987 25 4 1988 30 5 1989 35 Shipping is around $7-10. Hope someone find this useful. Thanks to all who replied my request. Huangxin Wang of University of Pennsylvania ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 20:25:18 EDT From: Dave_Walker@ub.cc.umich.edu Subject: Need uuencode/uudecode for the Mac Hello everyone. I'm looking for a reliable Mac version of uuencode and uudecode for the Mac. I've got one now that doesn't work very well at all. For those who don't know what it is, uuencode is a utility which works a lot like BinHex: i.e., it transforms binary files into text so that they can be dropped into messages, UseNet The Un*x utility which does this is called uuencode, and it's The Un*x utility which does this is called uuencode, and it's companion decoder is called (surprisingly enough) uudecode. Thanks kindly, Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Walker, Marmoset Pty. Ltd. marmoset@ub.cc.umich.edu "I don't read, I just guess" marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu -"Wrote For Luck", by Happy Mondays I *am* Marmoset Pty. Ltd., therefore they back me up all the way... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S.: I vote for keeping Anonymity in the archives... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jun 90 18:46:58 BST From: Kevin 'fractal' Purcell <KPURCELL@liverpool.ac.uk> Subject: Screen distrubance after installing a HD I have just installed a Ehman Quantum 100Mbyte hard disk (manufactured on 10 April 1990) in my twin floppy SE. The disk mounts on a bracket just above the floppy disk drives and clears the back of the tube by 1cm and the neck by 2.5cm. It works fine (as a hard disk) but on some accesses to the disk the screen rips-up. It looks like the image moves from side to side only. The displacement seems larger at the bottom of the screen than the top. This latter observation leads me to believe that this *may* be a magnetic disturbance (but what effect would this have on the media?). The other alternative could be related to a power supply problem? The machine exhibits no problems when just run with 2 floppy drives. Most saves to the disk do not exhibit should a marked effect (there may be a small amount of ripple) but this effect occurs on those intermittant accesses that the Mac makes from time to time when its not doing much else, such as holding mouse button down on a menu for several seconds (why does the mac do these?). Has anybody seen a problem like this before? How many of you have added an internal HD drive to a twin floppy SE and see or not see problems? Ehman tech support initially said they had not seen this problem, then the techie asked a supervisor and they said they had seen it and they would call me back. They didn't. Another call to Ehman and the techie hadn't heard of this prolem either, and as I had no names I could identify the person who said they had seen this before. I am waiting again for Ehman to return my call. As I am on the wrong side of the Atlantic I would like to cover all possible avenues before returning the drive and indulging myself on transatlantic music-on-hold. Thanks in advance, Kevin Kevin "fractal" Purcell | SURFACE SCIENCE CENTRE | These opinions are kpurcell@liverpool.ac.uk | Liverpool University | shareware. Send me $10 if | Liverpool L69 3BX | you use them. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 07:45:01 PDT From: "Eric S. Boltz" <eboltz%JHUVMS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Solarian on a RasterOps 264 Regarding the use of Solarian II on an SE/30: The problem is, most probably, your RasterOps 264 card. I have a IIci and the same board and cannot use Solarian II unless I run the built in video (which is just about never). With many games (Falcon is another example) the programming is video card specific. In fact the original Solarian II wouldn't run with the ci built-in video. I look forward to a 1.3 version which supports the RasterOps 264!! Eric S. Boltz Materials Science and Engineering The Johns Hopkins University (eboltz@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 15:07:26 -0700 From: William Lipa <wlipa@hqpyr1.oracle.com> Subject: Steriod Trojan -- WARNING! Steroid Trojan Horse -------------------- There is a Trojan Horse called "Steroid". It is an INIT that claims to speed up QuickDraw on Macintosh computers with 9" screens. The INIT contains code that checks for the date being greater than June 6,1990. If it is, it will ERASE all mounted drives. I have performed some tests on a Macintosh SE. Having Comm Toolbox installed seemed to interfere with the INIT and keep the erase from happening. The SE simply crashed. I then installed the INIT on a floppy disk and booted the SE. The floppy and hard disk were promply erased. NOTE: I had set the date to 7/7/90. So far, we know that the code does the following: OPERATIONS AT RESTART: ---------------------- DATE & TIME CHECK (Loop) SYSENVIRONS CHECK GETS VOLUME INFORMATION (probably checking for HFS) GETS SOME ADRESSES (Toolbox traps) DOES SOME HFS DISPATCH OPERATIONS VOLUME IS REINITIALIZED to "Untitled" INFORMATION: ------------ TYPE: INIT CREATOR: qdac CODE SIZE: 1080 DATA SIZE: 267 ID: 148 Name: QuickDraw Accelorator File Name: " Steroid" (First 2 characters are ASCII 1) WHAT TO DO: ----------- If your disk becomes erased, you can use SUM II Disk Clinic to recover the deleted files. We have tried this and it seems to work. If you read this today, before June 6 1990, REMOVE the Steroid INIT from all disks IMMEDIATELY. POSTED BY: Thomas Scott Desktop Services AppleLink: MICRO.SUPT Thanks to Larry Nedry, Lee Neuse, & Gary Giusti for information ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jun 90 00:01:20 GMT From: brett@spinifex.oz.au (Brett Sealey) Subject: Submission for comp-sys-mac-digest I have a little project at the moment which involves me creating an animated demonstration with sound and graphics (most likely on the Macintosh {IIci} but an Amiga if I can't get the product I need). What I need is some product which will allow me to produce this animated sequence easily (on the Mac). I have heard of a product called 'MacroMind Director' - What is it like - has anybody used this and can it handle sound as well as graphics? If anybody has done this sort of work I would be most interested to hear from you. Thanks, ACSnet,CSNET: brett@spinifex.unsw.oz JANET: spinifex.unsw.oz!brett@ukc UUCP: ...!uunet!munnari!spinifex.unsw.oz!brett BITNET/ARPA: brett@spinifex.unsw.oz.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 90 14:04:25 EDT From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: System 7.0 on new machines >From "Syllabus for the Macintosh", May/June 1990, Number 11: "The new software, System Software Version 7.0, will be rolled in across the product line. It will also be an upgrade option for anyone with a Macintosh equipped with 2 or more megabytes of RAM." I am wondering if the phrase "across the product line" implies that all new systems shipped after the V7.0 release will be shipped with V7.0, and therefore will all be shipping with 2 MB RAM (and a hard disk?) standard. It was my impression that even after the V7.0 release, Apple was going to continue shipping some new systems with V6.x system software so as to keep the price down on low-end configurations. Anybody have more detailed info on this? - Gregg Gregg TeHennepe | Academic Computing Services | Yes, but this gateh@conncoll.bitnet | Connecticut College, New London, CT | one goes to 11... ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************