Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (06/28/90)
Info-Mac Digest Wed, 27 Jun 90 Volume 8 : Issue 125
Today's Topics:
[*] ICN# Adder
Costly MS Word4 printing bug
FastBack II & FDHD drive
Getting "REAL" graphics trapped
HELP !!!
imagewriters and TOPS
Info-Mac Digest V8 #123 (2 msgs)
Info-Mac Digest V8 #124 (2 msgs)
K-STAR
Looking for DeskPict 1.1 or ColorDesk
MAC BOOKS - FOUND!!!
Mac is not exactly a toy
MacWelcome(TM) and _Launch 3.0
Now, seriously... (HPGL and Macintosh)
RayShade port to Mac
SIMMs
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Date: Fri, 25 May 90 11:36:33 CDT
From: UC445252%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: [*] ICN# Adder
I am pleased to post ICN# Adder. It is an application I wrote to
add a startup icon to those (older) INIT's and cdev's (such as
MacroMaker, Easy Access, Stepping Out II, etc.) which were not
programmed to display an icon.
Limitations:
(1) This software is not free, if you like it, send
me a card (any kind, preferrably 'credit...')
(2) It will not add an icon to Macsbug, this is an
application, and I haven't tried patching it.
(3) It will not add color icons, I only have an SE.
Look for version 2.0.
(4) Very little testing has been done on it. If it doesn't
work on your machine, it's yours free. :-)
(5) It works by adding an INIT resource to your INIT/cdev,
this makes it look like a virus to gatekeeper and vaccine, give it
permission to do so, it is NOT a virus! If you are paranoid, don't
worry, if it were a virus, gatekeeper and vaccine would warn you if
it tried to spread. (Don't worry, be happy.)
[Archived as /info-mac/util/icn-adder.hqx; 17K]
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 09:09:57 CDT
From: Yours truly <CBLIH%UAFSYSB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Costly MS Word4 printing bug
I've been unable to replicate earnaez@lynx.northeastern.edu's problem
with group printing Word 4 files from Finder. The reported problem
was the repeated printing of the first page of the second document to
print. I guess it's a case of what did I do right? I used:
System 6.0.5
Finder 6.1.5
LaserPrep 6.0.1
LaserWriter 6.0.1
Mac IIcx 8meg ram
Word 4.0 April 10, 1989
Printed 3 documents.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 09:34:19 HAE
From: Jean-Pierre Paradis <PARADISJ%LAVALVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: FastBack II & FDHD drive
I have a Mac SE with 2 Mb, 40 Mb hard disk and a FDHD drive.
I'm trying to make a backup with Fastback II (v2.00) on 1.44 disks.
I try everything but the Mac doesn't recognize the disk and eject it.
If I change the setup and do the same thing with 800k disks, everything
works fine.
Any suggestion are welcome.
_____ __ ____ __ ___ __ ___
_ /__\ __ /__\ _ \ / __ ParadisJ@LavalVM1
__ \__ \ Analyste
_ __ _\_\ __ ___/ ___ UniversitQ Laval
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 07:31 EST
From: RX80639%INDYLLY.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Getting "REAL" graphics trapped
In vol 8 #124 Ed de Moel writes:
>BUT: I'm a SERIOUS user, and I'm not just fooling around with
>toys. I want to include REAL graphs in my texts, not the mock-ups
>I made by hand using a toy like SuperPaint or MacDraw, but a real
>graph that was produced by a real program. Such graphs are
>produced in accordance to standards that were established more
>than 10 years ago. For 'screens', that is TEKTRONIX, for 'pen and
>paper', that is HPGL. Now, if Apple wants to use their proprietary
>formats internally, that's up to them. BUT I AM A SERIOUS USER.
>I WANT STANDARDS!.
Here are some answers to your pleas.
1) For Textronix emulation there are several choices. My personal
favorite is VersaTerm-PRO distributed by Synergy software. It
supplies Tek 4105, 4014 emulation with the graphics being trapped
in standard PICT format for cleanup by your favorite program.
2) The conversion of HPGL graphics for use on the Mac is a tough one.
I have finally found a program to do that and have ordered 2 copies for
work. I have not seen this in operation yet.
PlotView v3.0 $99.95 (site licences also available)
Steven's Creek Software
21346 Rumford Drive
Cupertino, CA 95014
(408)725-0424
"Emulate popular HP plotters with a Mac. View spectra on the Mac
screen; print to IW or Laserwriter. Compatible with ...any system
which can use an HP plotter or other HP-GL compatible plotters."
Works via hardware connection or text file input. Color is also
supposed to be translated. Supports plot sizes to paper of sizes
A to D.
Hopes this helps you out.
Wayne Kauffman
RX80639@INDYLLY
Lilly Research Labs
Standard disclaimer . . .
>From: KAUFFMAN E WAYNE II (MCVAX0::RX80639)
To: VMS MAIL ADDRESSEE (BITNET::"info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu")
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 09:44:55 -0400
From: Andy Malis <malis@bbn.com>
Subject: HELP !!!
> I want to include REAL graphs in my texts ... Such graphs are
> produced in accordance to standards that were established more
> than 10 years ago. For 'screens', that is TEKTRONIX, for 'pen and
> paper', that is HPGL. ...
> CAN THE MACINTOSH IN ANY WAY DEAL WITH INTERNATIONALLY
> STANDARDIZED GRAPHS, or it really just a toy???
Versaterm contains TEK 4014 emulation, including the ability to
save the graphics screen as a Macpaint document. Once saved, it
can be edited or cropped using most any paint program, and
included in a text by most any word processor.
I'm sure that there are other terminal emulators on the market
that can emulate Tek graphics terminals; Versaterm is the one I
happen to use.
Andy
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 17:20:24 EDT
From: jjones@lynx.northeastern.edu
Subject: imagewriters and TOPS
I am wondering if there is a way to use imagewriters that have appletalk
cards on a TOPS network. We have 3 of them that we would like to use,
but the manual says that *serial* based printers like the imagewriter
series can't be used. Thanks for any suggestions!
James Jones
Northeastern University
Boston, Mass. 02115
phone: (617)437-4430
e-mail: jjones@lynx.northeastern.edu
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 17:01:41 edt
From: Kurt D Baumann <kdb@intercon.com>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #123
In article <9006260558.AA13409@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>, you write:
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 90 13:37:17 pdt
> From: well!wdh@apple.com (Bill Hofmann)
> Subject: Emulating 3270 on a Mac
In regards to 3270 emulation on a Mac. If your IBM has TCP/IP capabilities
there is another product that you might be interested in: TCP/Connect II
which has 3278 model 2-5 emulation, as well as FTP, mail, etc... Just a
thought.
Kurt
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 17:05:44 edt
From: Kurt D Baumann <kdb@intercon.com>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #123
In article <9006260558.AA13409@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>, you write:
> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 90 12:24:05 EDT
> From: phssra@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson)
> Subject: TEK4105 emulator using ethernet
>
> VersaTerm Pro has Tek4105 emulation, and it uses the new Communications
> Toolbox. This means that it can be configured to use any type of
> communications interface (serial, ethernet, etc.). Unfortunately, Synergy
> Software only supplies the serial interface; you have to go elsewhere to get
> the ethernet interface. In particular, Intercon sells one for $150 (almost
> as much as VT Pro itself :-(. One of the mail-order houses will have VT Pro
> (for ~$175); Intercon's address is:
>
> Intercon
> 46950 Community Plaza
> Suite 101-132
> Sterling, VA 22170
> 703-450-7117
The New address is:
InterCon Systems Corporation
950 Herndon Parkway
Suite 390
Herndon, VA 22070
703.709.9890 Phone
703.709.9896 FAX
We grew.. :-)
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 08:38:17 EDT
From: Mark Oliver <LCO102%URIACC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #124
How do I make my own fonts?
Dear netlanders:
I have been following this digest with great interest for the past 4
months, and have seen many people publish their own fonts. I would
like to know what process (software package) is used to make your
own fonts? I am interested in creating one of my own....
Thanks in advance!
Mark Oliver <LCO102 @ URIACC> Programmer/Consultant
Academic Computer Center University of Rhode Island
"Rhode Island - isn't that part of New Jersey?"
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 09:44:17 CDT
From: "James N. Bradley" <ACSH%UHUPVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #124
>>Does anyone know how to change things so that systems w/ LaserWriter 6.0
>>will print black-and-white as a default, instead of trying to do color?
>
>The newest system version, 6.0.5, has a new LaserWriter driver that
>fixes this problem. The default is now set for b/w, not color.
This is not true of the 6.0.1 LaserWriter driver I downloaded from
Apple.Com with 6.0.5. I downloaded it right after the FX was released
so it could have been upgraded. Is there a 6.0.2? Is there some
other piece of information I'm missing?
Jim Bradley
University of Houston
Acknowledge-To: <ACSH@UHUPVM1>
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 14:13:15 GMT
From: Lucas S <is_s440@ux.kingston.ac.uk>
Subject: K-STAR
We have two localtalk networks both connected to an ethernet
backbone via Fastpaths.
At present we are using the software supplied and what kinetics
term K-STAR Routing because having the localtalk zones as
logical subnets proved impractical.
What I want to do is to set up one of the UNIX machines we have
as a file server using KIP and CAP.
Is K-STAR routing the same as produced by using the GW-SREC
code available from the KIP package?
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 09:35 EST
From: CSDBL%UOFT02.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Looking for DeskPict 1.1 or ColorDesk
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of either DeskPict version 1.1
or ColorDesk? The Info-Mac archives only have DeskPict v1.0. I couldn't
find ColorDesk in the archives (is it PD/ShareWare?). Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Dave Lutz
Software Specialist Internet: CSDBL@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU
The University of Toledo BITNET: ATSDBL@UOFT01.BITNET
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 14:11:41 SST
From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: MAC BOOKS - FOUND!!!
Finally, Ellen_Sangster@cc.sfu.ca sent me the address of Mac Books.
4228 Darlington Court
Palo Alto, CA 94306
BBS: (415) 969 9337
FAX: (415) 494 0166
Voice: (415) 494 2154
MACI Mail: DAngell
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 11:19:02 EDT
From: "Christopher T. Anderson" <CANDERSO%UGA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Mac is not exactly a toy
This in response to the pontification yeaterday by Ed de Moel
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>From: "Christopher T. Anderson" <CANDERSO@UGA>
Subject: Don't take yourself so seriously
To: Demoel@ruunda.fys.ruu.nl,
demoel@hutruu51
Menheer de Moel-
I don't know if I am worthy of advising as serious a programmer as yourself,
but if you can lower yourself to read my note, you might find gratification.
As a serious user of computers, and a serious programmer, you should be the
first to realize that to get what you want from a computer, all you need is the
correct software. If you can't find it, then as a serious programmer WRITE IT!
The Macintosh (no capital I) is a pretty computer, and I enjoy using it too.
It is also the MOST POWERFUL personal computer on the market today. This is an
objective opinion from a person who consults with users of all types of comp-
uters from PC's to mainframes, from NeXT to Sun to Mac.
If you've been mocking up graphs using SuperPaint and MacDraw, your problem is
one of the wrong software. CricketGraph is a good graphing program. MS Excel
contains some powerful graphing tools, and WingZ outdoes even Excel in this
arena.
Internationally Standardized Graphs? Every graph is constrained by what it is
to be showing. Please specify more clearly what you mean by this phrase.
The Macintosh is not a toy. It is simply the best microcomputer in the world.
Perhaps it is time to ascertain just how "in touch with the real world" you
really are.
-Chris Anderson
CANDERSO@UGA
PO Box 2342
Athens, GA 30612-0342
vChristopher T. Ande Demoel@ruunda.fys.r 6/27/90 Don't take yourself so serious
Acknowledge-To: <CANDERSO@UGA>
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Date: Wed, 27-Jun-1990 15:38:44.32 CST
From: <rcd2403%tamchem.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> (R. C. Davis)
Subject: MacWelcome(TM) and _Launch 3.0
Hello,
I'm a user of the program MacWelcome(TM). I'd like to have it start the
program _Launch 3.0 after displaying its message. But all I get after
clicking the OK button is a beep (and no nifty Icon dock). I got _Launch from
the Info-Mac archives. Can this problem be solved?
Ricardo Davis
.............................................................................
Dept. of Chemistry THEnet: CHEMVX::RCD2403
Texas A & M University BITnet: RCD2403@TAMCHEM
College Station, TX 77843-3255 USA Internet: RCD2403@CHEMVX.TAMU.EDU
Telephone (409) 845-0612 (128.194.5.2)
FAX (409) 845-4719
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 20:55 MET
From: Ed de Moel <DEMOEL@ruunda.fys.ruu.nl>
Subject: Now, seriously... (HPGL and Macintosh)
Hi netters,
I seem to have gotten some people pretty angry. I'm sorry if I
offended anybody, but I hope that you understand that I'm not
really thinking that a mac is 'just a toy'. I know better than
that, and that is why I'm trying to get your attention. A month
ago I asked a question, and I got not reaction at all. So, I
used some language that is bordeline, but I surely got your
attention. Let me explain what I really want:
I work in a physics lab, where we do all kinds of experiments.
>From these experiments we gather all kinds of data that we analyze
using a multitude of computers. From the smallest microcomputer
to the largest supercomputer, we use them all. The Macintosh is
one of the many computers that we use for dataprocessing, and
mind you, apart from the nice graphics, these new MacII/xxx's are
serious number-crunchers.
Some of these programs that analyze data produce their results in
a graphical form, either on a screen, or using a pen-plotter. Since
we live in a culture of 'publish or perish', we want to use our
graphs in our publications. Now, WordPerfect allows its users to
read a graph-file (encoded in a pen-plotter language like HPGL)
in order to include such graphs in documents that are to be
published.
Of course, once we have a pen-plotted representation of a
spectrum, we could use any MacSomething program to make a mock-up
of it in a format that happens to be readable by other Macintosh
programs, but we want to include our real graphs, the ones that
are produced by those other programs that run on this
supercomputer, or even that microcomputer that is part of an
experimental set-up. The Macintosh is just one of the many
machines that we have available for our work, and that makes us
depend on the use of formats that can be used on more than one
brand of computer or peripheral. HPGL is such a format (or
rather: language) and has been used for many years by many
manufacturers of computers, plotters and text-processors.
It's nice to have a program like Cricket around for a little
curve-fitting, but quite often, there's quite a lot more that we
want to do with our data.
Now, I'm hearing everybody shout at me that the Macintosh is the
best there is in the world of desk-top publishing, but when I
come with the most common form of graph from the every-day
research world, I see no way of incorporating it in a document
that I want to make. Instead I'm told that I shouldn't be
producing graphs in such a non-standard format. I'm told that I
should write my own conversion program to convert to whatever
format that is used on the Macintosh only.
My reasoning here is that the end-result counts for me.
WordPerfect on the PC gives me nice camera-ready printouts that
I can send to a journal. So do the various text-processors on
the Macintosh, AND they give me a much nicer user-interface. But
I can't include my graphs in my documents... So, I tend to
relinquish the mouse and WYSIWYG, and use a less friendly
program that does what I need.
Still, I keep thinking that I'm stupidly overlooking the
feature that I want so badly.
I want to spend my programming effort on programs that analyze my
data rather than on gadgets that a supplier of a text-processor
forgot to include in his product, especially when there are other
suppliers who did take that trouble.
Apart from the many friendly and unfriendly reactions I evoked, I
also got some help from Wayne Kauffman (RX80639@INDYLLY.BITNET):
> 2) The conversion of HPGL graphics for use on the Mac
> is a tough one.
> I have finally found a program to do that and have ordered
> 2 copies for work. I have not seen this in operation yet.
> PlotView v3.0 $99.95 (site licences also available)
> Steven's Creek Software
> 21346 Rumford Drive
> Cupertino, CA 95014
> (408)725-0424
> "Emulate popular HP plotters with a Mac.
> View spectra on the Mac screen; print to IW or Laserwriter.
> Compatible with ...any system which can use an HP plotter
> or other HP-GL compatible plotters."
>
> Works via hardware connection or text file input.
> Color is also supposed to be translated.
> Supports plot sizes to paper of sizes A to D.
Thanks a lot, Wayne, I think this looks promising.
Thanks too, Steve Strassmann from MIT, at least you understood
my question.
Now that I've explained a little more, maybe more people will
understand. If there are more solutions available, please let me
know and I'll summarize to the net.
Again, my apologies to those I offended.
Ed de Moel.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 15:29:08 CDT
From: Eric J. Richards <richards@eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: RayShade port to Mac
Hey,
This is an appeal to all software porters.
Has anyone ported RayShade to the Mac yet?
I recently found the RayShade ray tracer during my plunders of
InterNet. It resides on weedeater.math.yale.edu (130.132.23.17).
In my opinion, it's one of the best color ray tracers that's
available. It runs perfectly on Auburn's SPARCstations, producing
images that include marbeled and wood grain surfaces. And it's
fast, too!
Well, it's written in C, so it should be portable, right? Right.
I've "sort of" got it working under THINK C, but it will take a
scene that has a sphere and a cone sitting on a marble checkboard
and just produce the marble checkerboard with a white smear in the
lower right hand corner.
I've run out of time to expend, so before I produce a new
version of the wheel, I thought I'd ask if anyone has already
ported RayShade. Please let me know, and upload the source if
possible. If anyone wants to start where I left off, I'll get
the THINK C project to you (somehow...). I've noted all my
changes so it's not totally cryptic.
_________________________________________________________________
\ Eric Richards, Auburn University "Money can't buy happiness.\
\ InterNet: Then again, happiness can't\
\\\ richards@eng.auburn.edu buy government insured CD's"\
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 90 09:36:16 CDT
From: palkovic@linac.fnal.gov (John A. Palkovic)
Subject: SIMMs
In Info-Mac Digest v8n123 Gene Moy (moy@itd.nrl.navy.mil) writes:
>> Now for the reason I needed those codes. I was upgrading an old Mac
>> Plus in the office one day with 80ns simms. When completed, I turned
>> on the Mac and got the Sad Mac with the error code. This was late
>> Frideay afternoon. I thought about it some, and sent my query on the
>> codes. On Monday, I opened the Plus and put back the original simms,
>> and connected back the appropriate resistor. Fortunately, I only
>> clipped one side of the resistor. THE PLUS WORKED. No errors. I've
>> never heard of Pluses not working with faster simms before. Has
>> anyone else? These were MicorTECH [sic] simms, and I had upgrade memory on
>> 5 SE's with them. On Tuesday, I swapped the 80ns simms with some
>> 120ns simms and put the 120ns simms into the Plus. It Worked!
The facility where I work received a batch of bad SIMMs from Microtech
recently. I observed the same symptoms as above when trying to
install them in my plus. There was nothing wrong with them
electronically. An observant technician here (good job Keith!) traced
the problem to the board the SIMMs were mounted on. It was several
thousandths of an inch thinner than the stock SIMMS from Apple. Thus
they did not seat properly in the SIMM sockets and Sad Mac codes were
observed :-( . To Microtech's credit they replaced the whole batch
when notified of the problem. Caveat emptor.
John Palkovic
University of Wisconsin-Madison and Fermilab, Batavia, IL
Dept. of Physics
phonenet: (708) 840-3527
Email addresses:
bitnet: palkovic@fnal internet: palkovic@adcalc.fnal.gov,
decnet: FNAL::PALKOVIC palkovic@linac.fnal.gov
FORTRAN: Just say no.
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