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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 9 Jul 90 Volume 8 : Issue 130 Today's Topics: [*] BiPlane Shareware Spreadsheet [*] Compactor 1.02 File Compression Utility [*] DDExpand 2.02 [*] Disinfectant 2.0 [*] FileList 1.3 [*] FKEYs and macros for THINK C and Pascal Bio Icons ? DEC LA50 printer driver HPGL and Macintosh Hyper Drive 2000 MacDraw II line widths MacTools Deluxe Backup--WARNING! MS Word User Dictionaries POP3 Server Telnet for MacTCP YARC card information request Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 May 90 23:13:08 EDT From: chris@adms-rad.unisys.com (Chris Sterritt) Subject: [*] BiPlane Shareware Spreadsheet Here is part one of two parts of the BiPlane shareware Spreadsheet. Enjoy! --chris sterritt (not the author) [Archived as /info-mac/app/biplane-spreadsheet.hqx; 130K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:08:11 EDT From: phssra@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson) Subject: [*] Compactor 1.02 File Compression Utility This is Compactor 1.02, a new shareware file-compression utility providing greater compression than StuffIt. The program and its documentation are "compacted" together into a self-extracting archive, so all you have to do is hexbin it and run it. * * ** Scott Robert Anderson gatech!emoryu1!phssra * * * ** phssra@unix.cc.emory.edu phssra@emoryu1.bitnet * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [Archived as /info-mac/util/compactor-102.hqx; 102K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 11:21:14 EDT From: phssra@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Scott R. Anderson) Subject: [*] DDExpand 2.02 This is DDExpand 2.02, a freeware program to expand files compressed using DiskDoubler. It contains both an application and an INIT for this purpose. (Sorry, but I did not receive separate documentation for these programs.) * * ** Scott Robert Anderson gatech!emoryu1!phssra * * * ** phssra@unix.cc.emory.edu phssra@emoryu1.bitnet * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * [Archived as /info-mac/util/dd-expand-202.hqx; 118K] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 90 19:33:59 PDT From: jln@acns.nwu.edu Subject: [*] Disinfectant 2.0 Disinfectant 2.0 ================ July 8, 1990 Disinfectant 2.0 is a major new release of our free Macintosh anti-viral utility. The main goal of version 2.0 is to provide a complete and free solution to the Macintosh virus problem in a single package (in fact, in a single file). Version 2.0 addresses all four aspects of the virus problem: detection, repair, protection, and education. Version 2.0 includes a new virus protection startup document (INIT). The INIT is designed for use by novices and others who find existing protection INITs to be too complicated and obtrusive. Version 2.0 has a much-improved online manual, with pictures, printing, a context-sensitive help system, and many new sections of information. Version 2.0 is a non-modal application with standard windows and menus. It supports desk accessories, printing, MultiFinder application switching, and scanning in the background. There is a new Preferences window which can be used to specify miscellaneous options and parameters. Other new features include more scan and disinfect options, new counters in the main window, and a much-improved scanning station feature. Version 2.0 also recognizes the Frankie virus. Frankie only affects some kinds of Macintosh emulators running on Atari computers. Disinfectant 2.0 is available now via anonymous FTP from site acns.nwu.edu [129.105.49.1]. It will also be available soon on sumex-aim.stanford.edu, rascal.ics.utexas.edu, comp.binaries.mac, CompuServe, GEnie, Delphi, BIX, MacNet, America Online, Calvacom, AppleLink, and other popular sources of free and shareware software. Macintosh users who do not have access to electronic sources of free and shareware software may obtain a copy of Disinfectant by sending a self-addressed stamped envelope and an 800K floppy disk to the author at the address below. People outside the US should send an international postal reply coupon instead of US stamps (available from any post office). Please use sturdy envelopes, preferably cardboard disk mailers. John Norstad Academic Computing and Network Services Northwestern University 2129 Sheridan Road Evanston, IL 60208 Bitnet: jln@nuacc Internet: jln@acns.nwu.edu CompuServe: 76666,573 AppleLink: A0173 [Archived as /info-mac/virus/disinfectant-20.hqx; 270K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 11:38:00 PDT From: anamaria@violet.berkeley.edu (Peter Rauch) Subject: [*] FileList 1.3 Try the new FILELIST version 1.3; you'll like it. Below is an excerpt from the FileList.Doc which is included in the StuffIt'd BinHex'd packages submitted to info-mac. Following the excerpt is the BinHex of the FileList 1.3 application. =========================================================================== "FileList" Macintosh Volume And File Lister =========================================================================== Version 1.3 (18-May-1990) ___________________________________________________________________________ ABOUT FILELIST First of all, this program is free (but NOT public domain), including the sources. So don't pay anybody for it. Make sure to include this documentation when you give the program away. "FileList" is a file and disk organizer. It reads entire volumes and saves volume and file information. There is an option that enables StuffIt archives to be opened and to be treated like a folder: all files in the archive (including encrypted entries) will be listed. The collected information can be displayed, sorted by multiple criteria, searched for, saved as text files (to be printed later on, or to be imported into databases). Entire volumes can be deleted or renamed. There is an automatic disk insert/eject mode, meaning any inserted disk (be it a floppy or a CD-ROM disk) gets scanned then ejected, or any mounted volume can be added by selecting from a list of on-line volumes. "FileList" is useful for managing large collections of floppy disks, or can be used to quickly locate files on a big disk, e.g. CD-ROM. This is version 1.3 and replaces 1.2 which has been around since 21-Aug-88 and was very popular. Here is what "MacUser" December 1989 said about it: "FileList is a basic but very effective file lister. Insert a disk, and its contents are quickly listed with volume and folder paths, size, dates, creator and type. The resultant file can be printed, edited, or exported as text. The data transfers well to databases. FileList is currently the best of this type of program available." The following main features were added to version 1.3: * Search for files or volumes using multiple criteria. * Rename volumes. * Scanning of StuffIt archives. * Extended keyboard support. * This documentation. "FileList" should run on any Macintosh Plus or newer Macintosh. HFS (Hierarchical File System) is required, but MFS (Macintosh File System) disks are supported. I used System 6.05 with MultiFinder 6.1b9 on a Macintosh Plus and Macintosh IIcx to develop and test the program. The program was developed with THINK C 4.02 and the source code is available. (...more details omitted...) COMMENTS Send any comments to: CompuServe : 73720,2200 Internet : 73720.2200@compuserve.com Packet Radio: LX1YZ @ LX0PAC Erny Tontlinger 33 route d'Arlon L-8410 Steinfort Luxembourg [Archived as /info-mac/util/file-list-13.hqx; 43K /info-mac/source/c/file-list-13.hqx; 102K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 90 04:02 +0200 From: F86_FREDRIK@fyvax2.fy.chalmers.se Subject: [*] FKEYs and macros for THINK C and Pascal Here are a few FKEYs and Macromaker macros to be used when programming with THINK C or Pascal. Enjoy. Sven Axelsson d83_sven_a@tekno.chalmers.se [Archived as /info-mac/fkey/think-aids.hqx; 15K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 14:49 GMT From: UDUS010%OAK.CC.KCL.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Bio Icons ? There are a large number of pre-prepared icons in a stack (commercial) called Icon Maker. This does just what it says... allows you to make icons by pixel- picking or (I seem to remember) by selecting part of an existing graphic. I think there is also a similar shareware stack that allows the same thing... but is not so comprehensive... and lacks the icon library. David Riddle King's College London ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 90 18:15:29 EDT From: Lloyd%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: DEC LA50 printer driver Does anyone know where I can find a printer driver/chooser device/anything that would allow me to use my DEC LA50 printer off my SE/30's printer port? I would be interested in anything that would help me come closer to utilizing this beast, i.e. sample code, tips, complete program, anything useful. I'm mostly interested in getting text out of it, but it would be nice to get graphics. Thanks in advance, Chris Lloyd lloyd%umass.bitnet cabbagehead@saturn.ucc.umass.edu cabbagehead@mars.ucc.umass.edu P.S. Im not really interested in commercial programs or drivers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 08:45 MET From: Ed de Moel <DEMOEL@ruunda.fys.ruu.nl> Subject: HPGL and Macintosh Hi netters, Thank you all who responded to my queries regarding the inclusion of graphs that are produced on other computers than Macintoshes into documents that are to be processed on Macs. A lot of people tried to talk me into producing my graphs on the Mac. I don't question the functionality or quality of these programs (I never have), but it just happens to be so that in a number of cases I am just getting the graphs from these other machines, and I wish to incorporate them into documents that are processed on the Mac. Your point is well taken, though, if the other machine can produce the information as tables of numbers, there is a host of programs that can turn these tables into graphs: - Cricket Graph from: Computer Associates Software You build your table of values in its spreadsheet, choose the columns to graph, choose the graph type (line, scatter plot, polar, pie, etc) and your graph is created. From there, you can do nth order polynomial fitting, interpolation. Error bars can be drawn systematically or from one of the spreadsheet columns. - WingZ from: Informix Has a pretty good graphics ability, but no curve fitting or interpolation or error bars. It does have nice 3-d abilities, but I (Mike Robson, IN%"robson%ccrs.cdn@relay.CDNnet.CA) have never been able to scale the horizontal axis the way I wanted. - DeltaGraph low price, 3-D graphics, color, and able to import graphics created in other programs in a variety of formats. - Kaleida Graph from: Synergy Software 2457 Perkiomen Ave. Reading, Pennsylvania 19606 Phone: USA/215-779-0522 - IGOR from: WaveMetrics Version 1.2 PO Box 2088 $ 295 Lake Oswego, Oregon 97035 Phone: USA/503-620-3001 USA/503-635-8849. IGOR does not handle pie charts (Mehboob Alam, u90_malam@sitvxb.bitnet) IGOR cannot do 3D plots or contours (simon@mmpe.mineral.UAlberta.CA) - MoreGraph - MacSpin When you get your graphs as such from another computer, they need to be converted to a mac-format. This can be done using: - HPGL The conversion of HPGL graphics for use on the Mac is a tough one. I (Wayne Kauffman, rx80639@indylly.bitnet) have finally found a program to do that and have ordered 2 copies for work. I have not seen this in operation yet. PlotView v3.0 $99.95 (site licences also available) Steven's Creek Software 21346 Rumford Drive Cupertino, CA 95014 Phone USA/408-725-0424 "Emulate popular HP plotters with a Mac. View spectra on the Mac screen; print to IW or Laserwriter. Compatible with ...any system which can use an HP plotter or other HP-GL compatible plotters." Works via hardware connection or text file input. Color is also supposed to be translated. Supports plot sizes to paper of sizes A to D. - Tektronix 1014 VersaTerm Pro is a terminal emulator that displays full Tektronix 1014 type graphics for you to copy and paste into any word-processor or publishing program. VersaTerm is published by Synergy Software (phone: USA/215-779-0522. Mac240 from White Pine software is a similar program. - SIXEL White Pine Software makes a bi-directional SIXEL to PICT (Macintosh format) translator. DEC will also release a translator in their LanWORKs connectivity package. - CGM 'PICTure This' from FGM Inc. USA/703-478-9881 can handle the following formats - PC: Targa-16, CGM, Dr. Halo CUT, Gem IMG, Lotus PIC and PCX. Also SUN Raster images, Amiga IFF and RIFF, GIF, Compuserver RLE, X11 bitmaps. The Macintosh target format for all these is the PICT2 format. - PCX, PIC, TIFF DataViz Corp. makes a translator set called MacLink/Plus that supports a bunch of word-procesing, spreadsheet, database and graphic formats between the PC and Macintosh. The graphic translators include PCX (PC-PaintBrush), PIC (Lotus 1-2-3), TIFF (various scanners etc.) and the Macintosh formats PICT and PICT2. They have also released special links to the SUN SparcStation that includes (I think) CGM translators and any other format that is specific to the SUN environment. There is also a special version that will like the Macintosh to the NeXT computer. - DXF, IGES Claris Corp. who is the publisher/developer of some of the best Macintosh software, also makes a translator for their Claris CAD package that can translate IGES and DXF files to PICT and CCAD formats in both directions. - Targa Target published by Abra USA/303-820-2272 converts Targa images from the PC to Macintosh PICT2 format. If the 'remote' programs HAVE to produce graphs, PostScript ports a lot easier to the Mac than HPGL. In the world of pen-plotters, CalComp and Hewlett-Packard are the predominant manufacturers, and hence their control-languages have become de facto standards. In the world of laser-printers, PostScript is THE de facto standard. If you have to make a choice as to what device to use for plotting your graphs: some pen-plotters have a better resolution than the average laser-printer, while laser-printers usually make drawings that are more uniformly black, because they have no pen that dries out while being used. I have been warned, though, that programs like Cricket Graph, Wingz and Excel are nice for small data-sets, but get awkward when you have more than 1000 data-points. IGOR doesn't seem to be affected by the number of data-points (Phil Ryan, PFR654@CSC.ANU.OZ.AU; Wayne Robarge, nsarah@ncsumvs.cc.ncsu.edu). (Martin Slade, mslade%jpl-pds.jpl.nasa.gov; Bill Wing, wingwr@fedc07.fed.ornl.gov; Gary Giles, geg@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov; Alan Hewat, Hewat@Frill.bitnet; Michael W. Wheeler, mww@tntech.bitnet; Ben Cranston, zben@umd2.bitnet; David Palmer, palmer%gap.caltech.edu@tybalt.caltech.edu; Wayne Kauffman, rx80639@indylly.bitnet): If you need to incorporate Tektronix graphs, send the Tektronix codes from your host computer to a terminal emulation program on the Mac, e.g., NCSA Telnet (freeware) or VersaTerm Pro (commercial software). Capture the screen and print it. If you want to do intermediate editing of the picture prior to including it in the document the version of SuperPaint shipped with Word is OK. Also recommended CANVAS (which can simultaneously import both bitmaps and PICT images). About standards: some people feel that standards are things of the past and that clinging to standards impairs progress. In a way this is true: by clinging to a standard, one closes the way to immediate additional functionality. But: standards evolve too. When you have to deal with a situation where you use more than just one type of equipment, it is usually very wise to restrict yourself to what you know can be used on all your equipment. This may look like a 'least common denominator' approach, but it is also an approach that maximizes the use of your resources. To those of you who suggested that we quit using these other computers and do everything on our macs I'd like to say that every computer has its own benefits and drawbacks, but however pleasant it is to work with a Mac, a Mac still isn't a supercomputer (here I mean those machines that cost several billion $$ a piece) by far. Of course, I got a lot of remarks on the style of one of my letters. I won't keep a number of these away from you: ! Real Physicists would appreciate any further information that you ! dig up, so keep on posting. Keep on being the gnat which annoys ! people till they send you what they know. # Well, I thought your message was very funny. I guess some readers # of this digest have no sense of humor. And I think a lot of # people will have found the info you eventually succeeded in # provoking quite useful. ! Maybe you should nickname yourself "Salman" for blaspheming the Mac! # In the future, please phrase your questions intelligently and # politely, without the immature posturing about SERIOUS and REAL # world. And you will receive the informative and intelligent # answers. ! I suspect that you would have received as much useful information ! had you repeated your question, noted that these capabilities ! exist in PC programs, and said something like "If I don't find ! comparable facilities for the Mac, I may be forced to go back to ! using a PC for this job." This would have had the same ! psychological effect of challenging the honor of Macs, but I ! believe would have left people feeling sympathetic towards you, ! rather than angry. # Wow! Let me first say that in all my years of reading messages # coming and going over the net (including OS wars) I'd be hard # pressed to find a more offensive message than yours. You # certainly have a limited view of the world. ! I compare your narrow sightedness to a mechanic that would refuse ! to work on a car that is built on the metric system rather than ! the American standard system of measurement because he considers ! it non standard. If the truth be told the metric system is more ! of a standard and is also better IMHO although I don't use it ! very often. # Frankly your complaint seems to give the impression you are # relatively uneducated on the way the Mac really works. Read # Inside Mac volumes I through V (and VI and VII if you can get # them) and you will understand things a lot better. ! Peace! # I'm afraid you're going to get flamed about calling the Mac a toy... # hope that people realize you're just articulating your frustration # and hold back a tad. ! I've just read your article in Info-Mac Digest, and I'm going to ! try to help you, but I'm strongly tempted to just ignore it. ! Someone who feels compelled to use the word serious ten times in ! one short message isn't asking for help, they're making a ! statement that something is beneath them. ... Your message really ! makes you sound like one of those people. We Mac users take a ! lot of abuse from them. You might find us much more willing to ! help if you put away the gun, the battle-axe, and the wooden ! club. # Don't take yourself so seriously ! Are you serious? ! (Sorry I couldn't reisist.) # I expect you will get a lot of hate-mail in response to your note. # Pay no mind. We love our macs with an almost religious fervour. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 13:26 EST From: The Mental Ward CEO <BJW2748%RITVAX.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Hyper Drive 2000 Hello Netters, I posted this question on our local VAX NOTES with no response. Once again Im posting this for A friend with no Access to Info-mac. His system- He owns a Hyper-Drive Mac Plus. From what I understand this upgrade consists of an additional 1 Meg ram (bringing it to 2048Mb), an accelerator (? MHz.) and 20 Meg internal hard drive. His problem- His system will crash about every 10 minutes but not exactly, It is not a nice restart crash it is one of those sad mac faces 000FF and 00000 or something similar. from a recent posting of sad mac codes I figured it could be a ram error. Some other symptoms are the floppie opening and closing really fast. Let me try to explain better. It is as if you double click on the floppie icon, the disk opens, then you click on the upper left hand box in the root window and the window closes. Now keep in mind your not doing this, the computer is and really fast! Like as fast as it takes to whoosh open and whoosh close. Close to one cycle every 2 seconds. So it does that for a while then crashes! For those not familiar with Hyper-Drive Macs (like me 2 weeks ago) they use a installer to add a patch to the system to make it their system this installer is supposed to work on any system, But it either does not work on anything higher than 6.0X or has been corrupted. ( with no back-up). Remedies tried- I booted his system from floppie (system 6.05). Every thing works fine. But the computer does not recognize the 20 Meg hard drive or the extra 1 Meg ram. I tried to use SUM II it did not recognize it. I tried the software I used to format my HD Disk Manager Mac. It failed to recognize it also. So I think the drive is not a SCSI interface. Is there serial drive formatting shareware out there? Finally- He thinks this company is out of business so a new update is not available, If someone does have the updates would they stuff , binhex and send them to me. If someone has dealt with this before would they drop me a line and if their is shareware for formatting this kind of drive send it or drop me a note telling me where to get it via ftp. I hope this is clear enough to understand. Thanks in advance! Blair Weiss Rochester Institute of Technology BJW2748@bricks.hell.edu Really BITNET BJW2748@RITVAX Disclaimer: I dont need no stinkin disclaimer! Im unemployed! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 13:12 EST From: <FILLMORE%EMRCAN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: MacDraw II line widths We have noticed a problem with line widths in MacDraw II. We drew an object consisting of vertical, horizontal, and diagonal lines using a 1-point pen size. The lines appear to be the same width on the screen, but when we print it on the Apple Laserwriter the diagonal lines appear to be much thicker (almost twice as thick). I don't think the jaggies at 300dpi on the Laserwriter can account for this much difference. Has anyone noticed this? Is it MacDraw's fault or the Laserwriter's fault? ________________________ Bob Fillmore, Systems Software & Communications BITNET: FILLMORE@EMRCAN Computer Services Centre, BIX: bfillmore Energy, Mines, & Resources Canada Voice: (613) 992-2832 588 Booth St., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0E4 FAX: (613) 996-2953 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 10:39:06 -0700 From: Jonathan Pool <pool@u.washington.edu> Subject: MacTools Deluxe Backup--WARNING! Central Point Software's new MacTools Deluxe contains a Backup program that has a bug that could cause you to lose data. The program lets you save lists of folders to be backed up, in files called "setups". The setups, when opened, are intended to cause the folders to be selected automatically. The trouble is, THE CORRECT FOLDERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY SELECTED. What is actually selected is, for each folder that was originally marked, the FIRST folder in the volume's directory tree with the same name. And, in that folder, only the files (if any) with the same names as the files that were in the originally selected folder. Suppose you have 2 folders called "Chem 101" and "Chem 102", and in each of these you have 2 more folders called "Tests" and "Grades". Suppose you select "Chem 102" and its subsidiary folders (using Shift-Click) and save this selection in a "setup". When you try to back up your Chem 102 files by opening that setup, you will actually be backing up only Chem 101 files, specifically any files in Chem 101/Tests that have the same names as files in Chem 102/Tests, and similarly for /Grades. If you were to fail to notice that the wrong folders had been selected, and you deleted the Chem 102 files from your volume in reliance on the backup files as an archive, you would permanently lose your Chem 102 files. CPS says neither in-house testing nor extensive beta-testing discovered this bug. CPS says it has now reproduced the bug and says it will explore with the 3rd-party developer of this product what to do. I have not received yet any promise that the bug will be fixed or that purchasers of the product will be notified of the bug by CPS. I intend, personally, to inform CPS (if it comes to that) that this bug violates the product warranty (which, to CPS's credit, actually promises that the software will work) and I want it fixed under the warranty. If other owners of the product do the same, it can only help. CPS's customer assistance people seem sympathetic, knowledgeable, and somewhat frustrated with the support they don't always get from the back office. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 90 18:48:41 GMT From: Michael Everson <MEVERC95%IRLEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: MS Word User Dictionaries We are creating a spell-check dictionary for Irish Gaelic, which uses a multitude of vowels (well, ten) with accents. We have created a User Dictionary (DICT MSWD) with approximately 35,000 words in it. The User's Manual to MS Word states that the Absolute limit of a User Dictionary is 64,000 words, and the Recommended limit is 1,000 words. (That is a very sad statement, but let's let that pass for the moment.) The problem: We opened a document in Irish, opened the Spell Check MS Dictionary, and opened the Dearfoir Gaelach (Irish Checker) which we had created. But, much to our distress, the Dearfoir didn't find hardly any of the words in the text we wanted to check. It did find the preposition "faoi", but it did not find the noun "ce/ad" (where e/ is an a with an acute accent, ASCII 142). At first we thought it might be that the Speller wasn't handling the high ASCII character--but the Dearfoir didn't find the conjunction "agus" either, which has no special characters. The Dearfoir found two short words out of about thirty before we gave up, realizing that it wasn't working. CUIDIGI/ LINN! HELP! This makes no sense and is very distressing. We tried this on a Mac Plus with 1 meg of memory. It DID open the Dearfoir. Michael Everson and Marion Gunn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 90 08:50:26 SST From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: POP3 Server Anyone knows how I can obtain the source for a POP (Post Office Protocol) server? I think the protocol is called POP 3. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 90 10:26:32 +0200 From: roland@macpost.lu.se Subject: Telnet for MacTCP In response to Alfonso Fuggetta's question in infomac #120: The current version of NCSA Telnet is 2.3. You can find it at pollux.lu.se, among other places. At pollux, you can also find NCSA/LU Telnet, a version that handles European character sets and keyboards better. It would be easy to configure for the Italian keyboard/character set. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 12:19:43 JST From: visitor-Tokuyama-Motooka-ken <paul@bk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Subject: YARC card information request Does anyone have any comments/experience on the NuSuper board by YARC systems. It uses an AMD29000 units clocked at 25 MHz and has the capability to use the associated AMD floating point units AMD29027. I am considering purchasing one of these cards for my Mac II and would very much appreciate hearing any comments on the card. Paul Fons Visiting Scientist University of Tsukuba Institute of Applied Physics Tsukuba, Ibaraki JAPAN 305 email: paul@bk.tsukuba.ac.jp ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************