Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (09/07/90)
Info-Mac Digest Thu, 6 Sep 90 Volume 8 : Issue 149
Today's Topics:
*** Needed - A good RAM disk
Algorithm for discarding old files
Apple ROM chip sales
Audio speed-up?
Backing up a IIfx!!
Decode BinHex using Stuffit 1.31
Disk Labelling Software
GCC hard drives
Hacking Pretty C 1.04
Help with printing in Word 4.00b
installing a shutdown task from appl
Lasso Tool Code Samples?
Lisa disks
Mac, TCP, X
MacPassword
Mac SE/30 Stopped Clock
My SID-II problem
NetNews Reader stack
Network Mac logon UNIX host?
PICT resource creation?
Problem with xbin
STATE OF MAC GAMES (long)
Statistics Programs
Various simple MPW related questions...
Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh.
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 90 21:05 EDT
From: When I grow up I wanna be a Redneck <ACSAZ%SEMASSU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: *** Needed - A good RAM disk
Bitnet adrs: -> ACSAZ@SEMASSU, 13-AUG-1990
As it says in the Subj, I need a good RAM disk for cx, ci and fx
models.
Please respond to the list or to me at IN%"azavatone@ldbvax.dnet.lotus.com"
thanks much.
- Zav (Alex Zavatone) B!->
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 09:54 GMT+2
From: "Povl H. Pedersen - Yet Another C-programmer" <ECO8941@ecostat.aau.dk>
Subject: Algorithm for discarding old files
I have just seen that SUMEX is out of diskspace, so my suggestion to a
discard algorithm is:
discard files that have been in the archive for more than 3 months,
and that are in the bottom of the popular files list.
OR
if there appears an application with similar functions as previously
applications, then discard the old application.
OR
Discard old version when new ones are coming.
This algorithm is written using upside-down techniques :-)
You should first apply the last rule, then the second rule and if still not
enough space, then use the first rule.
The only rule that can be executed automaticly is rule number 1, so using this
only, and rule number 3 when time permits is also OK.
My advice to all submitters is to tell the moderators if there is a similar
program in the archives already or if it is an update.
Povl H. Pedersen
Internet: eco8941@ecostat.aau.dk
[Yes, please tell if there is something we can delete when you post something
new. We're understaffed and overworked as it is. You may have noticed how
long it takes to get your messages into a digest... -- Jon]
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 21:54:59 BST
From: John McKinley <jdm16%PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Apple ROM chip sales
Does anyone know anything about the rumoured deal between Apple and a portable
manufacturer to supply Macintosh Rom chips for use in a portable Mac clone? Is
it linked to the successful (and no doubt illegal) reverse engineering of the
ROM as rumoured in PC Week?
IAMFI
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 13:22 CDT
From: Norm Loomer <LOOMERN@acad.ripon.edu>
Subject: Audio speed-up?
This may be an off-the-wall question, but if there is an answer I'm
confident that someone in this group has it. I have some audio on tape
that I would like to speed up by about 10% without changing the pitch.
(I want to synchronize with some video that was recorded simultaneously,
but separately.) Is there any Mac hardware/software that will do this?
Norm Loomer
LOOMERN@ACAD.RIPON.EDU
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 12:16 EDT
From: HOCKLEYN%QUCDN.QueensU.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Backing up a IIfx!!
I am interested in finding out about backup systems for the IIfx. I am
thinking about ethernet or a tape drive. The hard drive of this machine
is big and I'm sick of using floppies. Any info would be helpful.....
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 10:26:03 EST
From: Eric Broque <OFABEGB%UVMADMIN.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Decode BinHex using Stuffit 1.31
Following up on David Coons question of 7/26 - I, too, have problems
decoding downloaded files. Here are the specifics - I'd appreciate any
help you can offer.
SOURCE: MACSERVE@PUCC
SENT TO: CMS account on IBM/4831
FILE HEADING: Removed using XEDIT (also tried without doing this)
DOWNLOADED VIA: MacIRMA using FT3270 to MacIIcx
(tried all combinations of ASCII & CRLF options on and off)
DECODED VIA: DECODE BINHEX option in STUFFIT 1.31
ERROR MESSAGE: "Sorry, the CRC check of the resource fork failed ..."
Eric G. Broque
University of Vermont
OFABEGB@UVMADMIN
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 11:44:42 EDT
From: "Bret Ingerman 315-443-1114" <INGERMAN%SUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Disk Labelling Software
There is a program called MyDiskLabeller by William Macias Co. It allows
you to create labels for disks (with or without graphics), and it will
print to either an ImageWriter or a LaserWriter. I do believe that you will
need to buy all of the labels from them.
Bret Ingerman internet: ingerman@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Microcomputer Consultant bitnet: ingerman@suvm
Syracuse University phone: (315) 443-1114
Academic Computing Services
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Date: 13 Aug 90 14:30 -0500
From: Gord Austin <austin@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: GCC hard drives
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:
>My place of work recently received a brochure from GCC Technologies describing
>their product line. On page 5, they offer to sell "current FX/FI owners" (this
>includes me) their newest disk management software for $49 (and include SUM II
>for $80 more). My question to the populace at large is: Has anyone used this
>software, and is it worth the $49? (I'm not really interested in SUM II.)
>In particular, how is the print spooling (Imagewriter) software? The one
>supplied with my drive died with the advent of Multifinder, and I have
>searched ever since (off and on) for a replacement that works well.
>As usual, please reply to me and if interest warrants I will summarize.
>Thank you,
>Doug Larrick
I purchased a GCC UltraDrive 45 last December, and it came with Quickspool,
their print spooler and SUM II, etc. I'm not sure what other disk management
software you speak of unless it is the utilities for setting disk/mac interleave
and creating/managing partitions. I don't have a use for these myself. On the
other hand, Quickspool is great! I use this with my imagewriter, on system
6.0.5 (and formerly on 6.0.3). I've never had any problems, it works great with
Multifinder and it can really save a lot of time.
>dlarrick@tufts.bitnet
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 14:17:57 EDT
From: beser@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Nick Beser)
Subject: Hacking Pretty C 1.04
I have been using the program Pretty C 1.04 to document
code. This program does produce an indexed listing that I have
found to be very usefull. Is there a way of resetting the
left margin so that the print-out can take a 3 hole punch for
notebooks? The way the printout looks now, some of the text is
lost with the hole punch. I did not see an option for page dimensions
other than print setup which selects size of paper.
Please send any reply to:
beser@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
Thanks,
Nick Beser
Applied Physics Lab,
Johns Hopkins University
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 13:32 PDT
From: Ron Webster <IC6JRHW@oac.ucla.edu>
Subject: Help with printing in Word 4.00b
Dear Macphiles:
I'm greatly tempted to go into a rampage disparaging the Mac. The
hostility has been mounting since the first day I moved off of my MS-DOS
machine (by my own choosing, however), and is partly fueled by the
conflict of a love/hate relationship with the Mac (which means there is
an underlying constant tension). But I will struggle to dutifully refrain
>From an outburst of temper and restrict myself to a mild-mannered request
for advice re one of many current problems. (At least I got some of the
frustration off my chest!)
I want to get output from Microsoft Word 4.00b. I'm printing to a GCC
Technologies PLP II (YECH!!!!!--great looking output, but slower than
death is long, even with 4 megs in my SE and the optional 1 meg SIMM
installed in the printer, but that's another story). When I say "output,"
I mean *real* output, not the crappy looking stuff with letters spaced
funny and italic characters overrunning punctuation marks.
WriteNow (another YECH!!!!!) is at least "smart" enough to realize that
every printer has an optimal spacing of characters (which generally
differs from the optimal spacing for screen display); hence, WriteNow
permits one to select printer spacing (opposed to screen spacing if
printer spacing is deselected) in the Page Setup dialog. Consequently,
characters print properly spaced and output is attractive (rather than
with extra space appearing around certain letters). Word, however,
stupidly (or at least so it seems to me) offers no such option. The only
apparent alternative I can find in the atrocious manual (reminiscent of
typical manuals for MS-DOS applications, and undoubtedly a reflection of
Microsoft's MS-DOS heritage) is to customize character spacing character-
by-character (which would not only be cumbersome, but would require
trial-and-error determination of spacing values).
If anyone in Mac Land can share insight on an expedient solution to my
problem (other than trashing Word and going back to WriteNow).
Ron Webster
(ic6jrhw@uclamvs.bitnet or ic6jrhw@oac.ucla.edu)
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Date: Fri, 03 Aug 90 09:22:52 EDT
From: Marc Mazuhelli <IN10%UDESVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: installing a shutdown task from appl
Is there a way to install a shutdown task from a normal application
(i.e. not from a CDEV or INIT)? ShutDwnInstall in Inside Mac V
tells me that I have to provide a ProcPtr. If a normal application
calls ShutDwnInstall, the code for the procedure will probably not be
loaded anymore when a shutdown is made.
Do I have to create a separate code resource and load it in the system
heap? If so, how do I do that? Is there a more simple way? Or is it
impossible? I need answers to these questions fast as this program
has to work before the end of the month...
Please respond to me directly and I will summarize to the net.
--> Marc Mazuhelli, professor --> using someone else's code:
Departement de mathematiques IN10@UDESVM.BITNET
et d'informatique
Universite de Sherbrooke
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 11:11:42 EDT
From: r.aminzade@lynx.northeastern.edu
Subject: Lasso Tool Code Samples?
I posted a request a short time ago about where I might look for
some sample source code for a paint-like program. A lot of people
suggested I look at DrawingClass (or whatever it's called), the
example that comes with the Think Class Library (which I own, since
it came with Think C). Thanks to all of you, but the specific thing
I'm interested in isn't included in that example -- I'm interested in
how a "lasso tool" would work, like the original one in Macpaint.
Any pointers to sample code, articles, or other places to look would
be greatly appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 16:47:22 EDT
From: "Sue Hay (tm)" <SUEHAY@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Lisa disks
I have someone here who wants to transfer a LisaWrite document (on a
Lisa disk, of course) to a Microsoft Word document on her Mac. What
is the best/easiest way to do this? Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Sue Hay, User Services, Brown University
suehay@brownvm.brown.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 90 15:23:31 PLT
From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL@WSUVM1.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Mac, TCP, X
Though you'll probably get more knowledgable answers, I thought I'd
put in my 2 cents just in case everyone else ignores you.
1) You'll need hardware to connect your Macs to the Ethernet.
Several vendors in the market: Apple (for Mac II only, not SE),
Asante (our current favorite for SE), Dove (we had problems with
'em), Kinetics, etc.
2) MacTCP is the software of choice for general TCP/IP connectivity
for the Mac. Talk to your Apple sales person, and bring some
money. (If all you wanted was telnet/ftp, you could get away with
Apple's EtherTalk and the public domain software from NCSA. For
X, you will need MacTCP. MacTCP also permits you to use the POP2
e-mail stuff that is being announced in info-mac.
3) MacX from Apple is (about to be?) available from Apple. This is
server only. If you need client-side to run on the Mac, check out
eXodus from White Pine Software.
I don't really know much about these products beyond the names and
the vendor claims, so all responsibility must remain with you, but
these pointers may help you start.
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 02:51:45 EST
From: Peter Sweeney <PS9ZRHMC%MIAMIU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MacPassword
Is MacPassword Sharware? And if so, where can I find a copy?
Does it really prevent another disk from starting up?
How does it work exactly? If it is not shareware, is it worth the
price? Sorry about all these questions....
Any response is welcome.
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Peter Sweeney |
Microcomputer Consultant | Diplomacy:<A-H, Hiroshima><F, FireWhenReady>
901 Arrowhead Drive #25 | BITNET:ps9zrhmc@miamiu
Oxford, Ohio 45056 | INTERNET:ps9zrhmc@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
(513) 523-4456 |
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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 90 22:28:17 MST
From: "Luis F. Morales,Jr. " <lmorales@huachuca-emh8.army.mil>
Subject: Mac SE/30 Stopped Clock
To all,
I have a friend with a Mac SE/30 and the clock has completely stopped. I have
allready tried Zapping the PRAM. I even went so far as taking the battery
out of the system. All the other parameters were reset, but the clock will
just not work.
I would appreciate any help I can get.
Thanks in advance,
Luis F. Morales,Jr.
USACEC
lmorales@huachuca-emh8.army.mil
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 02:45 CST
From: GREENY <MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: My SID-II problem
Thanks to everyone for responding to my problem with my SID-II. Although
I solved the problem the next day myself, the technical descriptions of
what was actually happening inside the mac were very helpful.
Also, in case anyone else runs into this problem, here's the solution:
(kudos to everyone providing it too!)
Make sure nothing is hooked up to pin 7 of connector J5 on the PC board...
this is a General Interrupt line on Mac SE's and above, and can cause all
sorts of problems if you have anything hooked up to it. If you do have it
hooked up, and the SID doesn't work, then cut the pin!
Thanks to all, and hope this helps!
Bye for now but not for long
Greeny
BITNET: MISS026@ECNCDC
Internet: MISS026%ECNCDC.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
GEnie: GREENY
AOL: GREENY1
Compu$erve: 72567,457
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 90 20:29:04 CDT
From: bobf@blumiris.chem.umr.edu (Robert B. Funchess)
Subject: NetNews Reader stack
A couple of months ago there was a posting about a hypercard stack to let
people using a mac read news on a nearby server. Unfortunately, I can't
remember WHERE to get this from. Does anyone know? I looked in the archives
and couldn't find it. The name was "NetNews Reader for Macintosh" or something
very similar. Many thanks...
--
Bob Funchess bobf@blumiris.chem.umr.edu
Chemistry Dept. University of Missouri - Rolla
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 07:44:12 CDT
From: hirchert@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Kurt Hirchert)
Subject: Network Mac logon UNIX host?
In Info-Mac Digest V8 #142 bcsaic!georgew@beaver.cs.washington.edu
(George Williams) writes:
...
>I have been using NCSA Telnet for talking to Unix machines via both
>LocalTalk and EtherTalk under the Mac OS (not A/UX, as Hector has),
>but I was using version 2.2 until just recently. With 2.2, everything
>was simple: to switch back and forth between the two networks (Ether
>and Local) all I had to do was pull out the control panel and click
>the appropriate icon in the Network CDEV (of course I had to close and
>reopen the network connections).
>
>But then our trusty support folks upgraded us to OS 6.0.4 and Telnet
>2.3, and though I can use LocalTalk ok, I can't use the EtherTalk --
>the control panel tell you that it can't get a necessary resource, and
>puts you back in LocalTalk. This sounds like more of an OS problem
>than a Telnet problem, but we still haven't got it figured out.
>
>However, addition to that, we're told that with 2.3, in order to
>switch between Ether and Local it's necessary to edit the Telnet
>config file to reflect which hardware it should be using. I haven't
>dug into the documentation yet, but this seems like a giant step
>backward in user friendliness, and counter to the intent of the
>Control Panel. If anyone out there has a response to this, I shure
>would like to hear it, and maybe it would help to resolve Hector's
>problem also.
NCSA Telnet communicates with the outside world in one of three basic ways:
1. The original method (and the default in the standalone version) is to
encapsulate TCP/IP packets in AppleTalk packets and write them onto an
AppleTalk network. In order for this to work, there must exist elsewhere
on the AppleTalk network a box such as the Kinetics FastPath or Cayman
GatorBox that will that will strip off the AppleTalk "wrapper" and copy
the packets to an Ethernet (and also encapsulate the return packets and
send them back to NCSA Telnet via AppleTalk).
2. In later versions (including 2.2), NCSA Telnet gained the ability to use
an EtherTalk card, EtherSC connection, or other direct connection to an
Ethernet in order to write and read TCP/IP packets directly.
3. As of version 2.3, there was a version of NCSA Telnet that would read and
write its TCP/IP packets through the MacTCP interface. (MacTCP would then
dispose of the packets by encapsulated reads and writes on AppleTalk or
direct read and writes on an Ethernet, i.e., the analogs of methods 1 and
2 above, but with the added benefit that other applications could be using
the MacTCP interface at the same time.)
The following methods have been used to distinguish the correct operating mode:
a. In early versions of NCSA Telnet, methods 1 and 2 were supported by
different versions of the program. In later versions (including _both_
version 2.2 and 2.3), the code for both methods was included in the same
version of the program, with a line in the config.tel file indicating which
method was to be used.
b. In version 2.3, there is a separate version of the code for MacTCP.
c. AppleTalk packets can be sent either over a LocalTalk network (using the
builtin hardware) or, if you have the hardware, over an Ethernet (using
_different_ protocols than are used for TCP/IP). This is controlled by
the Network control panel.
d. As noted above, MacTCP can send its packets on either LocalTalk or an
Ethernet. This is controlled by the MacTCP control panel.
Since the control panel has _never_ been used to control NCSA Telnet and
since version 2.2 didn't talk to MacTCP, I conclude that you were using method
1 and control method c. As best I have been able to learn from our Software
Tools Groups, nothing changed in version 2.3 that should make that stop
working, so I assume that it is the faulty installation of EtherTalk in 6.0.4
that is doing you in, not the switch to NCSA Telnet version 2.3.
(On the other hand, I don't know why you would want to run NCSA Telnet through
EtherTalk rather than talking to the Ethernet directly, especially when the
latter bypasses the bottleneck of going through your Fastpath or Gatorbox.
This will require editing your config.tel, but it should perform better.)
Finally, I would recommend that when you have problems with NCSA Telnet, you
get help from NCSA! To contact our support people, send e-mail to
telbug@ncsa.uiuc.edu.
Disclaimer: I am not in the Telnet support group, so there is a possibility
that I missed something in the above.
--
Kurt W. Hirchert hirchert@ncsa.uiuc.edu
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 13:29:26 EDT
From: COMB5%UMDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: PICT resource creation?
Does anyone know of a good program to create picture resources from simple
PICT files? I have two programs that do a lame job of it, in that when I
derez the resource from MPW it comes out as a massive bitmap even if it's
only a simple rectangle. What I'm looking for is a program that stores the
Quickdraw commands to draw the picture. Any ideas? I've heard of a program
called PictDetective, any others?
Thanks,
Tom Schmidt (COMB5@UMDC)
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 1990 17:53:01 EDT
From: GEG@stc10.ctd.ornl.gov (GARY GILES, K1007, 4-8667)
Subject: Problem with xbin
I seem to have a very strange problem with a coupling between xbin from
info-mac and word 4.0. I pulled xbin down and used BinHex4.0 and
unstuffit. There was a Word file AAAREADME.doc that I looked at. Since
the installation was nontrival, I put it off and left the files on the
Mac. From then on all word files that I used became AAAREADME.doc
documents. The icons were still word's but if I double clicked on the
icon, the application was missing. I could open these files from within
the application but it looks like every file I touched had the document
type modified. This became very upsetting. I finally figured out that
my file types were being modified and remembered the strange file name.
I threw the file any and things seem to have returned to normal.
Is xbin a virus or (more likely) have I encountered something strange
beyond my understanding of the Mac? Thanks for any help explaining this
mystery.
[Welcome to the Bundle zone. The AAAREADME.doc file has its bundle bit set,
which it should not. Get BundAid from the archive and run it. The Norton
Utilities also do this (about all they really seem to do too). The
Bundle bit says that it owns the other files of its type. It doesn't.
-- Jon]
Gary Giles
Computing and Telecommunications Div.
Martin Mareitta Energy Systems, Inc.
Bldg K-1007, ms-7039
P.O.Box 2003
Oak Ridge, TN 37831-7039
E-mail: Internet-geg@ornl.gov Bitnet-geg@ornlstc10
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 90 07:56:09 SST
From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: STATE OF MAC GAMES (long)
I must confess I play games ONLY on the Mac (in color too!!!). And I
collect originals as well. But after going at it for about a year, let
me share my frustrations with you.
Yesterday I picked up the September Macworld and saw the advert for
VETTE! by Spectrum Holobyte, the chaps who gave us Falcon 2.2. The advert
show screen shots of the Mac version in both color and b&w (package together).
What?? I thought I saw the advert a year ago, and it had to come out on
a PC first in 256 color VGA graphics!!! Was the game ported to the Mac?
Folks. This is too much to swallow.
After Silicon Beach gave up developing more games, the only REAL game
developers that produce games on the Mac FIRST IS Casady, the guys who
gave us Crystal Quest, and now Sky Shadow and Mission Starlight. Even
Maxis, who first wrote Simi City on the Mac before porting to the rest,
is coming up with Sim Earth NOT on the Mac first anymore. According to
an interview with one of the programmers in a British game's magazine,
he said it was MORE DIFFICULT to get the interface and graphics to work
properly on the Mac than on the Amiga. Hey, what is happening???
This is a list of games that work in color, and maybe music:
Tetris - 256 color, background music, 32QD OK
Welltris - 256 color, bg music, 32QD OK
Omega - 256 color, 32QD OK
Space Rouge - 16 color, 32QD OK
Autoduel - 16 color, 32QD OK
Guantlet - 256 color ( I think), 32QD OK
Sky Shadow - 16 color, bg music, 32QD OK
Mission Starlight - 16 color, bg music, 32QD OK
Crystal Quest - 256 color, 32QD OK
King's Quest 1-4 - 16 color, no 32QD
Space Quest 1-3 - 16 color, no 32QD
Police Quest - 16 color, no 32QD
Manhunter 1-2 - 16 color, no 32QD
Gold Rush - 16 color, no 32QD
Chuck Yeager AFT - 16 color, no 32QD
Moebius - 16 color (separate package), 32QD ??
SimCity - 16 color, no 32QD yet in 1.1c
Crazy Cars - 256 color, 32QD OK
Mines of Titan - 256 color, 32QD ??
Starlight - 16 color, 32QD OK
Never heard of the last two? They are from a French company TITUS. Crazy Cars
was reviewed in on the State Mac magazines, but not Mines of Titan. Not all the
Mail Order houses carry the full range, and certainly not the non-US ones.
Why does most games work only in 16 colors? From my programming experience, 16
colors is easier to manage, and it is faster. But this is wierd. Mac graphics
are suppose to be fast even at 8-bits compared to VGA. It is, but only on
the IIci and the IIfx. It is a lot slower compared to an 12MHz AT with VGA.
Most of these games are ports from MSDOS games, except for the few mentioned.
Background music??? It works well on a II series with the Apple Sound Chip,
not on the Plus or SE with a Sony Sound Chip (20% slower). Both Tetris and
Welltris uses Bogas (Studio Session) technology. Great stuff, low on memory,
and you can use a SSS to compose a piece with up to 8 digitized instruments.
Mission Starlight and Skay Shadow uses its own stuff. And not all supports
Multifinder, and even those games that support MF operate in a jerky manner.
So much for the balyhoo about pre-emptive multitasking slowing the mouse, and
that MF has to go the road of cooperative multitasking.
Why is the Mac NOT a platform of choice? Apple, that's why.
1. too expensive
2. has to support two different versions, b&w and color quickdraw, and
not 32bit quickdraw, and the 8.24GC version as well.
3. a business machine. Would you believe that???
4. sound is diffcult!! This is strange, but true. It is easier to write
MSDOS games with ADLIB (11voice) support because the card plays msuci
without slowing the system down, unlike the Mac.
The Mac is a half-baked idea, just like NeXT. This is too much. It pretends
to be a personal tool, but it can't beat the Amiga in price and performance
and the specific qualities. It can't beat the PC because there is not enough
people who knows how to repair the Mac. It can't beat the workstations like
SUN because it is underpowered.
I like it still, but please, Apple, do something. Build up your market share
and get a lot more developers (games, business, r&d etc) to develope on the
Mac.
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 11:33 EDT
From: FRIEDMAN@BIOVAX.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject: Statistics Programs
Folks -
I am looking for a good statistical analysis program to do multiple
comparison tests. We have StatWorks and are not completely satisfied with
its list of functions. Two programs that have been recommended are JMP and
StatView. Does anyone have experience with either of these programs. Do either
do SNK's, Duncan's, Schefe, or other multiple comparison tests.
Thanks
Rich
Friedman@MBCL.rutgers.edu
Friedman@biovax.rutgers.edu
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 90 10:11 PDT
From: Sharon Yoder <YODER@oregon.uoregon.edu>
Subject: Various simple MPW related questions...
Hello folks! I have a few questions here that I can't seem to find
adequate answers to easily:
a) Just what is the difference between APDA and Develop? I know the
former sells software (like MPW) and the former distributes
CD's and offers Mac's at lower prices. But why are these not a
single organization, and what else does each do?
b) Does MPW, as it ships from APDA, come with SADE, ResEdit and MacsBug
(as well as documentation, of course)?
(Make that the MPW Shell, above, not 'MPW' ((wretched mail editor...)))
c) How do TML Pascal II and MPW Pascal compare? Is either substantially
different than the other (facts and opinions equally welcome here!)
d) I've heard that various unix-like tools (most notably 'grep') have been
ported to become MPW tools. Does anyone know where I can FTP a copy of
these things (preferably binaries, since I don't anticipate buying an
MPW C compiler, butanything is better than nothing).
Answer to the digest or this account, whichever you prefer.
Thanks for anything help you can provide!!
\david john burrowes (Despite what the header claims)
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