Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (09/17/90)
Info-Mac Digest Sun, 16 Sep 90 Volume 8 : Issue 154 Today's Topics: [*] CoCoA 1.0c posting [*] Help Help 1.0b4 [*] HyperShanghai 1.0 [*] info-mac/misc/nisus-biblio-macros.hqx [*] Macintosh Video Output Report [*] Use Paint V1.23 a cd rom routine in sumex-aim library And Milo? Apple System backup for Mac2fx binary download to mac BinHex woes... Bomb CADLINK for Mac ethernet packet watcher File Index stack with scrollable windows wanted Generating Postscript file under multifinder? Hard Disks in Public Lab Environments Hypercard text question Ideas for a Micro Lab Setting Keeping track of GRADES key capture/mouse movement capture programs LisaWrite Mexican stuff OnCue and MultiFinder 6.1b9? Polish Fonts Theorist? Vanishing System Folder Files VGA on the Mac? Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Jul 90 13:20:06 CDT From: "Lee Schneider" <MATHPG2%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] CoCoA 1.0c posting Following is a binhexed stuffit file containing CoCoA 1.0c as described in Info-Mac V 8 #108. See that issue for more information. Regards, Lee Schneider, Dept. of Mathematics, University of Missouri-Columbia MATHPG2@UMCVMB.BITNET or MATHPG2@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU [Archived as /info-mac/app/cocoa-10c-part1.hqx; 191K /info-mac/app/cocoa-10c-part2.hqx; 130K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 90 23:40 EDT From: Sig Porter <SPorter@dockmaster.ncsc.mil> Subject: [*] Help Help 1.0b4 Help Help is an example of a specific help system built on a generic Help kernel. Using only Resedit and Help Help, you can easily build a help subsystem for your application. Help ties blocks of text to menu selections. Thus it is easy to explain the functions of the menu items in your application. By adding additional menus, you can also present information on more general subjects. Help has basic text editing built in--this doesn't help your users, but it makes it simple for you to tie your text to the menu item it relates to. While I would expect you to sublaunch your help subsystem from your application, Help Help is an example showing that it is also useful as a stand-alone application. Sig Porter SPorter@dockmaster.ncsc.mil [Archived as /info-mac/tech/help-help-10b4.hqx; 31K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 90 15:22 EDT From: <MHOUSER%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] HyperShanghai 1.0 Hi Netters! Sent with this message is version 1.0 of HyperShanghai, a HyperCard translation of the matching game played with Mah Jong tiles. We got tired of straining our eyes trying to differentiate between the weird chinese symbols so our tiles have musical symbols instead (look for more symbol sets in future releases). This is a HyperCard stack which will run only with HyperCard version 1.2 or higher. It is a StuffIt archive when debinhexed. This stack is offered as sharewear! If you like it and keep it please send a $5 licensing fee. This fee will entitle you to updates and put you on our mailing list for information on other products. Whether you keep it or not pass it on to your friends. Thanks and enjoy! InterStellar Softwear Michael T. Houser Shari M. Houser 2 Graystone Ave. Granby, MA 01033 [Archived as /info-mac/card/hyper-shanghai.hqx; 160K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jul 90 13:13:51 EDT From: Grobbins (IDM) <grobbins@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov> Subject: [*] info-mac/misc/nisus-biblio-macros.hqx Nisus 2.x Bibliography Macros by Grobbins 2/90 These simple macros were written so my roommate could manage bibliography references, but they can be used for maintaining any simple database in Nisus. They are faster and cleaner than the database macros provided by Paragon. Requirements: Nisus version 2.0 or higher Nisus Bibliography Macros are public domain. grobbins@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov [Archived as /info-mac/misc/nisus-bibliography-macros.hqx; 6K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 11:15:31 PLT From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL%WSUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] Macintosh Video Output Report I have pulled together the various bits and pieces of information I have gathered over the last year concerning hardware to output Macintosh images to video (television). I make no pretense that the report is complete or up-to-date -- it's a very fast moving field. However, I think many people will find at least the vendor contact information valuable. Be aware that you will need to know such terms as chroma-keying, NTSC, and genlock to understand the (very brief) product descriptions within. Good luck, vidkids! [Archived as /info-mac/report/video-output.txt; 6K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jul 90 19:54 EDT From: R. Mark Fleming <FLEMINGM%QUCDN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] Use Paint V1.23 Use Paint is an application to view or print pictures contained on CD-ROMs. It is FreeWare! * File types it will handle are: StartUp Screens (SCRN) MacPaint (PNGT) Picture (PICT) Color PICT files EPSF Preview files. * Log file can be created if file printed or displayed * Sub-directories can be optionally be scanned. Enjoy, Mark [Archived as /info-mac/app/use-paint-123.hqx; 35K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 90 09:47:37 -0500 From: Allan H levy <alevy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: a cd rom routine in sumex-aim library I have been looking for an XCMD for HyperCard that will allow a script to eject a CD-ROM disk from the drive. A programmer at Berkeley, now on vacation, says he has submitted such a routine with other system support tools to the SUMEX-AIM library. I have been browsing through info-mac but can not find a title that appears applicable. Can you assist me? Thanks for your help. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Sep 90 18:44 +0200 From: horacio@cc.unizar.es Subject: And Milo? I have just read a old note about Milo, which says is a competitor of Theorist. I'll be grateful if somebody sends me (or to the list, if it is ethical) a comparation between the two programs. Thanks Alejandro Rivero Zaragoza Univ Spain horacio@cc.unizar.es ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 90 10:55:41 EDT From: Anup Patel <patel@mwunix.mitre.org> Subject: Apple System Can anyone at Apple clarify why LaserPrep and LaserWriter 6.0 have not been included in the standard software delivered with all new Macs? Thanks. Anup Patel The MITRE Corp. patel@mdf.mitre.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 11:13:19 PDT From: nethery.parc@xerox.com Subject: backup for Mac2fx Date 9/11/90 Subject backup for Mac2fx >From Kee Nethery To hockleyn, info-mac Subject:backup for Mac2fx I purchased a removeable disk unit direct from DPI (in the 415 area code). It uses 40Mb removeable disk cartridges that cost around $100 each. The drive cost around $750. I like it a lot. The disk is useable as a disk and backups are a breeze when going to a 40Mb cartridge. I figured tape would not be as easy to find stuff on. BMUG uses lots of removeable cartridge drives and their resident hard disk expert said that the DPI drive was the most reliable due to (he thinks) the disk orientation and the rating of the power supply. I know others who have DPI removeable cartridge drives and they like them bunches. ------------------------------ Date: 04 SEP 90 19:03:15 From: GAUTHIER%FRCICT81.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: binary download to mac HELP! I work on a Cyber nos/ve system and imported a binary file for MAC from Simtel20 via FTP to an IBM3290. The file on the mac cannot be made into an application with Binhex5. It was downloaded via a program called MacConnect which does binary downloading . The file has a strange header which indicates that it contains a Stuffit archive. But the format is not that of a Binhex5 file (128 bytes header). Could you confirm that the stuffit archives(simtel) are transcoded with Binhex5 or tell me what algorythm is used. Here is how the file was transfered: FTP to 3290 then X25 to Cyber then modem to MacConnect (7 bits) Simtel 20 -->TSO --> Nos/VE --> Mac Thanks for any hint why it does not work? Gauthier@frcict81 Toulouse France ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 90 9:06:41 EDT From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil> Subject: BinHex woes... >Many thanks for all the responses on my binhex problems. For your >information, however, I would like to mention that BinHex v5.0 is >available via anonymous ftp at oswego.oswego.edu (129.3.1.1) under the >pub/mac/binhex directory. Version 5.0 has sucessfully decoded >everything I've downloaded from the info-mac archives without any >changes to the files. > But DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T DON'T *EVER* use BinHex 5 to encode files for uploading to sumex or any other archive site. BinHex 5 is NOT a newer release of BinHex 4! It is an entirely different program, which writes files in an entirely different format. Yes, it will do the Hex->Binary conversion for you OK. It will not, however, do the Binary->Hex. You are better off using StuffIt 1.5.1, which will do all your BinHex work in a speedy and compatible fashion. And, hey, you need it anyway to unstuff the archived files. Or, if you're on a U*IX system, get mcvert from sumex and do all that crap in U*IX. That way you end up downloading the Binaries, which are smaller than the BinHex files, to your Mac. Faster downloads, don't you know... >Randy Z. > tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil <+> tcora@dacth01.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 12:28:52 EDT From: Jean Brunet <R31631%UQAM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Bomb Hi! I am currently using sytem (6.0.4) and finder (6.1.4) on my Mac II. When I want to read the information on the finder,to change the multifinder partition, the system bombs.Any reason to explain this peculiar phenomena. Thanks for your comments. P.S. After such an event I must use Disk First Aid to repair my hard disk. Thanks again. ****************************************** ** * JEAN BRUNET * QQQ QQQ QQQ -------- * DEPT. DES COMMUNICATIONS * QQQ QQQ QQQ NETNORTH * UNIVERSITE DU QUEBEC A MONTREAL (UQAM) * QQQ QQQ QQQ BITNET * C.P. 8888, SUCC. 'A', MONTREAL, QC. * QQQ -------------- * CANADA, H3C 3P8 * QQQ R31631@UQAM.BITNET * TEL: 514-987-4897/ res: 514-659-5864 * QQQ ------------------ ****************************************** ****************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 90 13:07 GMT From: NOW the fun begins <MECOMAIDIN%vax1.ucg.ie@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: CADLINK for Mac Anyone ever heard of CADLINK for the MAC ? What company sells it and what's it like ? Any and all info much appreciated. Thanks in advance, Kevin Madden. mecomaidin@vax1.ucg.ie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 12:48:57 PDT From: nethery.PARC@xerox.com Subject: ethernet packet watcher Date 9/11/90 Subject ethernet packet watcher >From Kee Nethery To info-mac Subject:ethernet packet watcher I don't know of any Public Domain software for the Mac that will watch ethernet packets. On the DOS side you can buy a Sniffer from Network General or the LANalyzer from Excelan/Novell for $15000+ US dollars. On the Mac side you can purchase NetMinder from Neon Software for under $500. Compared to DOS platform prices, it's a steal. Their internet address is D5969@AppleLink.Apple.Com Kee Nethery Institute for Research on Learning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Aug 90 22:48 N From: Mark Yeager <YEAGER%sc2a.unige.ch@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: File Index stack with scrollable windows wanted I'm looking for a simple Hypercard stack similar to the File Index Stack that comes bundled with Hypercard, but with scrollable windows. Other embellishments are fine. I know, DIY, but I haven't bought myself enough time to learn how to do it yet. Obliged, -- .- .-. -.- -.-- . .- --. . .-. Mark Yeager -> yeager@cgeuge52.BITNET yeager@sc2a.unige.ch Univ. of Geneva, Dept. Biochemistry, Sciences II, 30 quai E. Ansermet, CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland TEL:+(41 22) 702 6485 FAX:+(41 22) 29 6102 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 90 17:36 PST From: CHOE@tahoma.phys.washington.edu Subject: Generating Postscript file under multifinder? I wonder if anybody knows how to generate a postscript file under multifinder. I tried usual option-F or command-K method at the print dialog but the print monitor always intercepted and tried printing! Thanks. Jay Choe. choe@phast.phys.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 14:57 CDT From: Kevin Coffel <KCOFFEL%UMINN1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Hard Disks in Public Lab Environments I'd like to send an open call for input on the issues concerning hard disks in public labs. My main interests are outlined below: 1) Control of viruses- A) What preventative programs are labs using- PD or commercial B) How often are the disks checked with disinfectant or something similar. Does anyone use any sort of time delayed checker, etc. C) Are many people using a dedicated virus checking machine for the users' disks. 2) Control of users saving files (data or applications) on the HD's Generally, have the lab managers/attendants been responsible for periodically removing stray files or is there an automated process to delete unwanted files. As well, is it common practice to keep a copy of stray documents in case the user goofed and accidentally saved on the hard disk rather than their own floppy. 3) Prevention of users accidentally/deliberately deleting important files. (Such as system files, licensed applications, etc...) As well, users making uncommon modifications that will more than likely confuse the next user. For example, modifying the MS Word menus or any other pref file for that matter. 4) Has anyone found a happy medium that allows the users to utilize the hard drive yet frees lab employees from a constant battle of "cleaning" hard drives? I've thought about locking the HDs with some password protection but that frequently doesn't allow enough "write" access. For exemple, writting to the clipboard or modifying pref files, or even temporarily putting a large application on the hard drive can be restricted using this method. I would appreciate that any input on the subject be sent directly to me. I will then compile it and send it back here. My e-mail address is: Kcoffel@vm1.spcs.umn.edu or bitnet--Kcoffel@uminn1. Thank you very much for your help, Kevin Coffel Univ of Minn/St. Paul Computing Services ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 12:52:04 PDT From: nethery.PARC@xerox.com Subject: Hypercard text question Date 9/11/90 Subject Hypercard text question >From Kee Nethery To info-mac Subject:Hypercard text question this script (or a debugged version of it) will dump the contents of all your fields into a text file on your disk. It's not fancy and it's not elgant but it should do the trick. Try it out on a small three card version of your rolodex just in case I have used the wrong arguments for some of the standard hypercard functions. So, try it and then if it don't work, get your hypertalk manual and correct it. Have fun. Kee Nethery Institute for Research on Learning on dumpdata put "data dump" into thefile open file thefile put the number of cards into numcards repeat with x = 1 to numcards go to card x put the number of card fields into cdfldnum put the number of fields into fldnum repeat with y = 1 to cdfldnum if cdfldnum is 0 then exit repeat set cursor to busy put "card" && x & "/" & numcards && "cdfld" && y into msg put the name of cd fld cdfldnum & return into thedata put cd fld cdfldnum & return & return after thedata write thedata to file thefile end repeat repeat with y = 1 to fldnum if fldnum is 0 then exit repeat set cursor to busy put "card" && x & "/" & numcards && "fld" && y into msg put the name of cd fld fldnum & return into thedata put fld fldnum & return & return after thedata write thedata to file thefile end repeat end repeat end dumpdata ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 14:01:37 -0500 From: swinnea@emx.utexas.edu (J. Steven Swinnea) Subject: Ideas for a Micro Lab Setting I have just been given the job of making the microcomputer lab in our Department of Chemical Engineering work more efficiently. Our lab consists of about 20 dual floppy Mac SE's connected to a MacII server running Appleshare. There are three or four AppleTalk IWII's for local printing and a Fastpath connection to the campus ethernet for remote laser printing on printers maintained by our computer center. Each SE has a serial connection to the campus mainframe port contention system (MICOM). There are a dozen or so DOS machines in this lab connected to nothing at the moment. I would appreciate any comments that anyone has about our current environment. I would like to get students using the ethernet rather than the serial lines for mainframe communication but I'm not sure about the capacity of our LocalTalk network to handle the traffic. It also seems that the server is very slow at peak times. Is this a network problem or just the symtoms of an overworked server? The current method of software distribution appears to be to put several copies of class software on the server and having the students play 'tag' trying to get to the unopened applications first. Is Lab Launcher a good solution to this? What is an effective method for reducing virus infestation in this environment? Any suggestions as to what the ideal hardware/software setup necessary to make a small network such as this operate efficiently would be appreciated. The faculty is open to changes within reason but I am the person who needs to tell them what changes need to be made. I'd be more than happy to prepare a report of any answers I get and submit to individuals and the archives. I know that a lot of this has been discussed previously, but I haven't actively needed most of the information until recently. The second part of my new postion is to help the ChE faculty increase and unify the computer content of their courses. The would like for me to help develop problems around available software and also introduce them to new software suitable for their classes. So, I am also looking for programs that operate on any platform which can be used in process design, reactor design, fluid flow, distillation, thermodynamics and so on. A lead to a good simultaenous ODE solver package would be a big help. Thanks, Steve Swinnea Dept. Materials Sci. & Engr. ETC 9.114 University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712 swinnea@emx.utexas.edu chaa013@utxvm.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 90 08:49:04 EST From: Jane_Miller%CARLETON.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Keeping track of GRADES Hi, One of the professors here at Carleton Univsity (Ottawa), is looking for a package (shareware or commercial) that will help him keep records of grades, and doing bell-curves as well. He's now using MS File on a MacPlus, but finds it very slow. Does anyone out there have any ideas or suggestions? Please respond directly to me, and I'll summarize to the net. Thanks in advance.......................Dr. Jane Miller .......................................JANE_MILLER@CARLETON.CA ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 90 12:15:00 MDT From: "Adrienne" <lee_a@clipr.colorado.edu> Subject: key capture/mouse movement capture programs Hi! I'm a graduate student in cognitive psychology. I like using HyperCard for running experiments, but I'd like to run experiments using other pieces of software that do not necessarily allow me access to collect key stroke/timing or mouse movement/timing information. Does any one have any information about such programs, how well they work, and how much they cost? Thanks! Adrienne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 11:08:50 PDT From: nethery.parc@xerox.com Subject: LisaWrite Date 9/11/90 Subject LisaWrite >From Kee Nethery To info-mac, suehay Subject:LisaWrite Wow! a Lisa question. Do you still need to eraser the board slot contacts when they get corroded? LisaWrite, OK here's the trick. Lisa comes with a terminal emulator LisaTerm. The Mac also has bunch-o-terminal emulators. The easy solution is to put a modem on the Lisa and call a Mac and then copy and paste the ascii text from the LisaWrite document into LisaTerm and caputer it on the Mac. If you have lots of files, you might want to have someone build a simple cable to connect the two and go as fast as the two terminal programs will allow. The Lisa was slow but what a joy it was compared to the alternatives. Kee Nethery Institute for Research on Learning ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 12:32:49 EST From: Juan Pablo <UOG00033%VM.UoGuelph.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Mexican stuff Hi, Macfans: Does anybody out there have pictures of mexican stuff? Flags, seals or any kind of artwork are more than welcomed. Please e-mail to: uog00033@vm.uoguelph.ca uog00033@UOGUELPH.BITNET Thanks a lot, Juan "a lonely mexican in Canada" Pablo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 90 22:24 N From: "Gary T. Czychi" <CZYCHI%CSGHSG5A.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: OnCue and MultiFinder 6.1b9? Hi there, I've been just checking out OnCue Demo V.1.3 from ICOM Simulations and find it a very good utility. However, I've installed MultiFinder 6.1b9 on my machine so that OnCue mixes up the installed DA's with my applications. Somewhere I have read that there is a new version of OnCue (Demo) which can handle that. (Or is there a path which I can apply?) Thanks for any help, Gary Gary T. Czychi University of St.Gallen, Switzerland czychi@csghsg52.BITNET (preferred) czychi@bernina.ethz.ch.UUCP (CZYCHI@ETHZ.uucp) Tel.: --41 / 71 / 57 17 22 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 16:06:40 EDT From: Marian_Krzyzowski@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Polish Fonts ate: Tue, 21 Aug 90 18:12 +0100 >From: Pieter Stouten <STOUTEN%EMBL.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Polish Fonts - Where and how can I get them ? Hello, Can anybody provide me with Polish fonts or direct me to somebody who can ? Alternatively, would somebody be willing to change an existing font (preferably Times or Helvetica), so that it can be used to type Polish. The Polish alphabet is almost a normal latin alphabet (not cyrillic or anything), but it has some diacritical marks which no other alphabet has. Specifically: an "l" with a bar, an "o" and a "z" with an accent-aigu, a "z" with a dot on top, and an "a" and an "e" with sort of a tail (similar to a cedille). Since Poland is rapidly becoming a Western country, Apple should consider producing a Polish system as well. Until that happens, I would be very happy, if at least I could have a Polish font. Thanks in advance. For over a year I have been using a Polish version of Times called Czasy and a Polish Helvetica called Szwajcarskie from Allotype Typographics, located at 1600 Packard, Ann Arbor, MI 48104, U.S.A. (telephone: 313-663-1989). These downloadable laser fonts are interchangeable with normal Times and Helvetica and their keyboard configuration is close to the Polish keyboard. They're priced under $100 apiece. Highly r ecommended and they're hometown grown! Marian Krzyzowski School of Business Administration University of Michigan Ann Arbor ------------------------------ Date: 5 Sep 90 18:33 +0200 From: horacio@cc.unizar.es Subject: Theorist? Does anyone tasted/tested the program Theorist? I want to say, the new program for doing Maths that appears in the June (or July) issue of BYTE. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 15:33:48 EDT From: r.aminzade@lynx.northeastern.edu Subject: Vanishing System Folder Files I have been the recipient of several virus "false alarms," and hope I am not starting one. However the following is bizarre and incomprehensible to me . I was called today by a staff person who runs a small lab of IICX machines (I think 2 megs of memory, 80 meg disks...not sure). For reasons that will be clear later, we don't know just which INITs or CDEVs he was running. He was trying to put a copy of "PrintMonitor" in his system folder, and got a "file could not be copied..that name is already taken." message. However, the file wasn't there! On inspection (from the finder...) the system folder seemed to have only 14 files. Missing were many that were needed to boot the machine (System for example). He also noticed that, though the Laserwriter file wasn't present, printing to the LaserWriter was no problem! The system folder was "blessed," but there was no system file in it! The machine could reboot, but if you copied the whole system folder to a floppy disk you only got the 14 files, and, of course, couldn't boot from that disk. I'll mention that rebuilding the desktop hadn't helped (he did it several times, I did it once). LaserPrep was still there...LaserWriter was missing. On further inspection, we discovered that all the expected files that would SORT ALPHABETICALLY after LaserWriter were the missing ones! (AHA, I felt like Sherlock Holmes). For the heck of it, I tried opening the system folder, copying a file, and renaming it ZZZ. If we then opened and closed the system folder it wasn't there any more! This worked for any > "LaserWriter" name. The finder window would read "15 files" before the open/close, "14 files" afterwards. Disk space was reduced as usual when the new copy was made, and wasn't reallocated when the file disappeared (this makes me wonder how many "Word Temp" files are disappearing and hogging up disk space!) Inits that fall off the alpha cliff (this includes Disinfectant Init because of the high-ascii character prepended) don't appear to be in the system folder, but their icons SHOW UP AT BOOT TIME. We saw only Disinfectant and Gatekeeper Aid (I know, they don't need to both be there..). Other oddities or observations: Resedit can't see the files, so it's not just that their invisible bit was flipped. SFfile doesn't ever see these files in any program, but programs can execute them. For example,Font/DA mover can't open the System file from SFfile, but if you double-click on the Font/DA mover application it can find--and opens--the system file! All fonts and DAs show up in Font/DA mover's scrolling fields. One last twist. Just before this occurred, someone tried to load a copy of ON Location's demo version. Coincidentally, this demo version doesn't work with files starting with A-L. For a while I got a strange idea that ON Location's demo mucks with the disk's directory, but that seems too unlikely...I think. Lastly: we haven't tried zapping the PRAM and we haven't looked at the disk or its directory with a block editor. Pretty sure it's system 6.0.4, but at least system 6.0.n anyway. This machine is in a public lab setting and is being used by students for assembly language and C programming, which means that ANYTHING could be happening. Virus or other rogue code? I doubt it, but who knows? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 12:47:18 PDT From: nethery.PARC@xerox.com Subject: VGA on the Mac? Date 9/11/90 Subject VGA on the Mac? >From Kee Nethery To info-mac Subject:VGA on the Mac? Are there any video cards for the Mac that can be rigged to drive a VGA monitor? I know the Apple card can be rigged to drive PAL or NTSC. Any ideas if there is a way to drive VGA? Thanks, Kee Nethery Institute for Research on Learning nethery.parc@xerox.com ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************