Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (09/17/90)
Info-Mac Digest Sun, 16 Sep 90 Volume 8 : Issue 155 Today's Topics: "printer manager help" 3270 Emulation for the Mac 4 Mbyte SIMMs for Mac IIx and IIci a database for field biologists ? Apple TNs CD-ROM Drive/Music Player Correction! Darn awful problem, this... DeskWriter and LocalTalk ? electro-luminescense displa ExportText Stack Needed Facility managerment software Fast Formatter & MacWren Tech Manual Flow Charting software Good third party books on MicroSoft Word and Excel? GRAMMATIK for MAC Horizontal scrolling Info-Mac Digest V8 #152 Info-Mac Digest V8 #153 Is MultiFinder 6.1b9 OK to use? KIP LAN Mail Macro to read several issues of Current-Contents-on-Diskette PD Spreadsheets? Postscript file of Vax-3100 screen & new Tek colour PS printer Resource File Checker Rotating text in Microsoft QuickBASIC SCSI woes Spooler stuff Stella Sys 6.0.5 vs. MacWrite 4.6 Tech notes telnet 2.1 Thanks, and another question... uiuc.edu Unexplained system crashes Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 14:03 MDT From: Bernie <BSWieser%UNCAMULT.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: "printer manager help" Greetings net-people. I am currently taking a course in which I get to pick a software project to design and implement. I have decided to do something which would involve re-writing the printing manager and printer driver. In a nut shell, I am looking for information about various aspects of both which would be important to the project. One of the over-all goals is to have a PICT file on disk produced as a result of selecting Print. I understand that catching the information after it has been mangled by the manager is too late, because by that time the information has been changed into a bitmap. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies, you will get honorable mention! Bernie Wieser Dept. of Psychology (also a CPSC 502 student) University of Calgary (BSWieser@UNCAMULT.BITNET) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 90 23:23:51 EDT From: Peter DiCamillo <CMSMAINT@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: 3270 Emulation for the Mac Brown's tn3270 for the Macintosh is available by using anonymous FTP to brownvm.brown.edu, and from LISTSERV@BROWNVM over BITNET. Using anonymous FTP, retrieve the file tn3d16.sithqx, or the three files tn3d16.1sithqx3 through tn3d16.3sithqx3. Over BITNET, send LISTSERV the three commands: get tn3d16.1sithqx3 get tn3d16.2sithqx3 get tn3d16.3sithqx3 These files must be combined, then unBinHexed, and unStuffed. The resulting set of files includes both the NCSA and MacTCP versions of tn3270. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 09:33:43 EDT From: Marcelino Bernardo <MBERNAR%ERENJ.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: 4 Mbyte SIMMs for Mac IIx and IIci Someone here wants to upgrade his Mac IIx to 32 Mbyte with 4 Mbyte SIMMs. I am also interested in whether this would be possible on a Mac IIci at this time. Are 4 MByte SIMMs available for either machines? I read in Byte that a company, Connectix, makes 4 MByte SIMMs for the IIfx. Could someone give me their phone number/address? Regards, Marcelino Bernardo mbernar@erenj.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 90 11:21 MET From: KEES.RAPPOLDT%IB.AGRO.NL@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: a database for field biologists ? Hallo, Anybody knows about field biologists who store their data on vegetation, birds.... in a well-structured manner in a database ? Friends from (Dutch) governmental organisations report an enormous chaos. There should be someone, I think, who is doing it on a Mac in a better way. I'd like to hear from people who use commercial or self-made friendly programs that are able to produce output in different form and may even produce maps, Kees Rappoldt bitnet address: RAPPOLDT@IB.AGRO.NL ------------------------------ Date: Wed 12 Sep 90 17:05:24-PST From: JHL%NAIF.SPAN@star.stanford.edu (Jay Lieske) Subject: Apple TNs A recent posting noted that the Aug 90 issue of Macintosh Technical Notes were available on apple.com. I downloaded them and find that there are some corrections to issues prior to #268 and then there are the TNs 280-284. What happened to all the Technical Notes 269-279? I couldn't find them anywhere on apple.com and Sumex archives end at 268 (the Feb 90 issue). jay Lieske jhl@naif.jpl.nasa.gov jhl%naif.span@hamlet.caltech.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 18:42 CST From: SAWATZKYJ%sask.usask.ca@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: CD-ROM Drive/Music Player Has anyone out there heard of a CD music player that can also be used as a CD-ROM drive for a Macintosh (or vice-versa). Since the two machines are basically the same this combination would seem to be fairly logical. If such a beast exists could you please tell me to the best of their knowlege: 1. What is the brand name and model 2. Compatibility problems 3. Limitations (ie. speed) 4. Where and/or how I get the software driver for it 5. Price Please reply to me directly and I will summarize to the net if it seems worth- while. Thanks in advance. **********"Hey Lily, you were in the Army. What's an 'adjective'.?************ _______________________________________________________________________________ Joan Sawatzky College of Nursing Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada ---------------------- University of Saskatchewan --------------------------- _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 00:43:14 CST From: Greg Wimpey <GWIMPEY%TRINITY.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Correction! In my last posting (regarding problems transferring BinHex over Kermit), I made two mistakes regarding the way IRMA translates the left-bracket character: 1) The left-bracket is mistranslated as a _close_-single quote, not an open single quote as I said earlier. 2) The key that produces this character is option-} (_not_ option-'). Sorry for any confusion that may have caused! ========================================================================== "Whaddya mean grad : Greg Wimpey BITNET: GWIMPEY@TRINITY | school?!? I just got : Geology Snail: Box 1382 | into college, didn't : Class of 1991 715 Staduim Dr. | I?" : Trinity University San Antonio, TX 78212| ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 12:32:22 PDT From: Eric_Poustie@cc.sfu.ca Subject: Darn awful problem, this... I've been trying to install what appears to be a badly flawed copy of StuffIt Deluxe, and it has created a nested folder structure for the preferences file that is well over 200 levels deep. Trying to get rid of this monstrosity has been impossible to date, since the finder runs out of space if you try to trash it and DiskTools III tries valiantly but locks up my SE without success. Any brilliant schemes out there to get rid of this folder? Eric ================================================================== | Eric B. Poustie | My BBS: Generic (604) 574-1199 | | 17342 - 62A Avenue |------------------------------------| | Surrey, BC V3S 5J1 | Hardware used: Mac SE & AT | | Canada | Interests: Macintosh, motorcyling | |================================================================| [ These opinions are my own - my wife won't take responsibility! ] ================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 02:46:59 CDT From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight SIEMUK ) Subject: DeskWriter and LocalTalk ? Hi All, Recently, I've noted references in various Trade Ads for new "LocalTalk-compatible" HP DeskWriters. I also saw a reference in the Digest a month or so ago about an updated (Version 2) DeskWriter driver. Can anyone shed any light on whether the two references are equivalent; i.e. would the new driver make an original non-networkable DeskWriter networkable (after all, the original DW is equipped with an RS-422A, as opposed to RS-232 interface). Failing that, would a ROM change to the DW do the trick? It would seem strange if HP hadn't thought ahead to LocalTalk operation when they originally reworked the DeskJet for the Mac market. Cheers, Francis K =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Francis H Knight | knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com Schlumberger Industries | Felixstowe, UK | | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 1990 11:12:59 PDT From: nethery.parc@xerox.com Subject: electro-luminescense displa Date 9/12/90 Subject electro-luminescense displa >From Kee Nethery To info-mac Subject:electro-luminescense display Re: Additional Portable screen/electro-luminescense display There is a company in Oregon called Planar Systems that makes Mac, PC and RS232 driven EL displays. I don't think any of them can be driven directly >From the video out on a Mac Portable but it would be worth sending them a fax. Planar Systems, 1400 NW Compton Drive, Beaverton, OR 97006, USA, voice (503) 690-1100, fax (503) 645-7024. Let me know if it turns out that they can get the Mac Portable to drive one of their displays. Kee Nethery Institute for Research on Learning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 17:23:43 CDT From: GR4486%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: ExportText Stack Needed Hi netters, I need a stack that can export the data in a HyperCard stack to a tab-delimited text file, so that I can dump a fair size of bibliography to a paper. Can anybody out there tell me where I can obtain such a stack? Thanks. ---Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 17:09 CDT From: DENIS%EVAX.P-E-T.Mankato.MSUS.EDU@ricevm1.rice.edu Subject: Facility managerment software Our physical plant people purchased a Mac IIfx for drafting/architectural usage. The goal is to have the entire campus on computer. As part of that they would like a facility management package. Does anyone know of a program to do this or a method to accomplish? Denis Becker Mankato State Univ denis@msus1.bitnet denis@msus1.msus.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 01:39 PDT From: Gann Matsuda <IYI4DTN@oac.ucla.edu> Subject: Fast Formatter & MacWren Tech Manual Chris-- The last version of FastFormatter (from Beyond, Inc.) was version 3.0. That version did not support 1.44 mb disks. As far as I know, Beyond has not released a version that does. FastCopy, which is included in the Mac Tools Deluxe package from Central Point Software, does format 1.44 mb floppies in addition to its sector copy functions. RE: MacWren tech manual I don't know where to get a copy of such a manual, but Seagate has bought out Imprimis, the makers of the Wren drives. Does that help? Gann Matsuda UCLA Asian American Studies BITNET: IYI4DTN@UCLAMVS INTERNET: IYI4DTN@UCLAMVS.BITNET ARPANET: iyi4dtn@oac.ucla.edu GEnie: G.MATSUDA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 21:46 EDT From: Bill Wilson <WILSON%GBURG.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Flow Charting software I have a faculty member interested in a flow chart program for Mac. Can anyone direct me to a package that has been set up specifically for this purpose? Thanks in advance. Bill Wilson Software Support ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 09:43 CDT From: Dan Lunderville <ACS_DANL%uwrf.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Good third party books on MicroSoft Word and Excel? Hello everyone, I am interested in getting a good third party book about learning and using MicroSoft Word 4.0 for the Mac. I am aware of 2 or 3 books, but I don't know how good they are. If you have found one to be particularly good, please tell me about it. Any reviews, comparisons, etc. that you have would also be very helpful. I would also be interested in similar information on books about MicroSoft Excel for the Mac. If I get some responses, I will summarize for the net. Dan Lunderville Bitnet: ACS_DANL@UWRF Academic Computing Center AppleLink: U0095 University of Wisconsin - River Falls Telephone: (715) 425-3583 River Falls, WI 54022 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 90 15:30:42 MET From: Renzo Beltrame <BELTRAME%ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: GRAMMATIK for MAC Does anyone know if there is a version for Macintosh of the GRAMMATIK, the computer aided grammatical analyser which works on IBM PC? I should need the implementation for the English (or better English American) language. Plese send me a message. R. Beltrame ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 16:58 EDT From: SCHUYTEM%UNCG.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Horizontal scrolling I've been trying for a while (I'm no hotshot programmer, that's for sure) to get a useable horizontal scrolling background, prefferibly using a PICT resource, but yet maintain the ability to check whether an object (a spaceship, perhaps) is in contact with the background. The only luck I've had with scrolling has been with regions, which are slow, flickery (is that a word?) and small, and with ScrollRect, but it only dumbly moves the pixels. Any suggestions? Is there that one command out there that will ease my burdons and make it so simple I could laugh. Probably not, but maybe there's a way I havn't found yet ... Stuck in Carolina ... Paul Schuytema ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 13:28:22 EDT From: John <LV3J%CORNELLA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #152 I recently received the updated version of InitInfo, the newsletter explaining init and cdev conflicts. Finally, something that will solve the init conlficts I've been facing. Unfortunately, a few still pester me: 1) Disk Express ][ and Turbocache do not seem to work on the Macintosh IIci. DE][ just fails to work on that computer, always refusing to load. Turbo cache, on the other hand, bombs at boot time. They, naturally from Murphy's Law , conflict with one another. 2) OnCue doesn't want to work correctly when run under Multifinder 6.1 d6, even with the "Insert Application Switching Menu" option deselected. Earlie r Multifinders, like version 6.04 that I am currently using, work fine. Programming ----------- I wanted to flush the eventqueue using FlushEvents in Lightspeed C but the comp iler keeps warning me that there is a Link Failure. What am I doing wrong? Also , is there a good intermediate-->advanced maunal on the programming the Mac Too lbox and Quickdraw functions using C? I'd appreciate any help. John LV3J@cornella.cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 13:48:53 EST From: Lynne Meeks <LZM%UVMVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #153 RE: HyperCard Visuals don't work on a MAC II There will likely be many other replies to this but here's my two cents: The culprit is COLOR! Set your monitor to B&W in the control panel and voila! all those terrific visuals will suddenly work! Have fun. Lynne Meeks University of Vermont ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 90 20:53:19 -0400 From: drz@po.cwru.edu (David R. Zinkin) Subject: Is MultiFinder 6.1b9 OK to use? Has anyone found any incompatiblities or bugs in the widely distributed MultiFinder 6.1b9? I've been using it for a couple of days without incident, but I'd just like to be certain that this version of MultiFinder is safe and compatible. Please send all bug/incompatibility information to drz@po.cwru.edu. If enough reports come in to make it worthwhile (i.e. more than zero), I'll summarize to the net. Thanks, -- Dave Zinkin -- David Zinkin -- Case Western Reserve University (Student) and Rochester General Hospital Radiology Dept. (Consultant) INTERNET: drz@po.cwru.edu BITNET: drz%po.cwru.edu@cunyvm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 11:54:06 EDT From: rvg@chem.wayne.edu (Rahul Garg) Subject: KIP Hi, I'm trying to install KIP/CAP on our System V/Appletalk network. But am having some very basic problem in setting up the database. Could someone help me out please. 1) How do find out the to use for the broadcast address (to be used with the N option in atalkatab) 2) Do I have to specify all the listed properties in the example atalkatab for the kbox. If I have to, what exactly is the ipdebug, ipfile and some of the other options. 3) Is the zone name picked up from the atalkatab file since its mentioned not to put it in the config file to be used with the fastpath Manager. Any Help, whatsoever would be greatly appreciated. ] Thanks a lot... Rahul ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 90 01:15 EDT From: GORDON DOHLE <DOHLE%Vax2.Concordia.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: LAN Mail We are about to set up a very small LAN using TurboNet wiring and including 3 Pluses, an SE with a 40m hard disk and a 45 Meg removable as the pseudo server. We also want to connect at least one PCclone. The July issue of MacUsuer compares several comm applications for Mail. Can anyone add to their analysis from the point of view of actual use and its applicability to our context? Thanks for the advice Gordon Dohle Dohle@Vax2.Concordia.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 14:33 N From: <HEWAT%FRILL.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (HEWAT@FRILL51, F-76-48-72-13 [or26] FAX 76-4...) Subject: Macro to read several issues of Current-Contents-on-Diskette Current-Contents-on-Diskette lists all papers in the physical (or biological) sciences, with a new issue (1+Mbytes) each week. A 'personal interest profile' can be set up to automatically find papers of interest. Does anyone know how to write a macro to search the issues of several weeks (several issues on a hard disk). The user interface is a cross between Mac pulldown windows, and Hypercard type buttons - messy, but the product is great, and would be even better if I could automatically search over all the past issues, without having to manually open each one. Alan Hewat (HEWAT@FRILL.BITNET) ILL, Grenoble, France. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 1990 12:09:20 MDT From: Alan Lichty <lichty@saguaro.anthro.utah.edu> Subject: PD Spreadsheets? I am in need of a public domain spreadsheet program. If you know of such a critter, I would appreciate knowing a) what it is b) where can I get/download a copy? Thanks in advance Al Lichty lichty@anthro.utah.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 14:23 N From: <HEWAT%FRILL.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (HEWAT@FRILL51, F-76-48-72-13 [or26] FAX 76-4...) Subject: Postscript file of Vax-3100 screen & new Tek colour PS printer We just had a demo of the new Tek Phaser postscript colour printer - very impressive, as easy to use as a B&W Laserwriter, and can print from Mac applications such as MacDraw-II which don't even generate postscript themselves because the Mac system (Laserwriter-6 and 32-bit quickdraw) automatically convert the output to PS. The printer can be connected by EtherNet and RS232 to our Vax network, and can accept files simultaneously with those coming in on AppleTalk. Great. But most of our Vax applications, and the Vax system, don't create colour postscript files. Is there a Vax application that will translate a VaxStation screen into a postscript file, like we can do on the Mac ? Alan Hewat (HEWAT@FRILL.BITNET) ILL, Grenoble, France. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 14:44 EDT From: <RMANGALD%CLARKU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Resource File Checker Hello, people: Does anyone have or knows of a program that will check for, and possibly repair, damaged/inconsitent resource maps? I have encountered a couple of files whose resource forks are bad, and was wondering if they can be repaired. Mostly, I'm looking for a program that will find files with inconsitencies like overlapping resources, incorrect resource lengths, etc. Does ResEdit 2.0 do this? Rahul Mangaldas. bitnet: rmangaldas@clarku internet: rmangaldas@clarku.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 11:14:56 EDT From: bas@chem.wayne.edu (Barry A. Schoenfelner) Subject: Rotating text in Microsoft QuickBASIC Can a QuickBASIC expert tell me if it is possible to rotate text. I would like to make my graphic routines produce better looking y-axes. Please E-mail direct to me bas@chem.wayne.edu. Thanks. Barry Schoenfelner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 15:10:16 cdt From: Glenn Sowell <sowell@hoss.unl.edu> Subject: SCSI woes Apple, in its wisdom, requires new SCSI terminators for the IIfx. Okay, I can live with that, especially since Apple sent one with the computer. To connect an external hard drive (which I want to do only occasionally) to the IIfx I must disconnect the internal SCSI terminator. Okay, I can live with that, in spite of the fact that the manual gives no indication of how to do this. (Cutting Edge 45Meg) The tech support at Ehman which makes the drive gave me clear instructions on how to disconnect the terminator. All that is left is to attach an external SCSI terminator of the new type that Apple, in its wisdom, specifies. I cannot live with this last one! Both SCSI connectors on my drive are 25 pin, just like the ones on the back of the Mac. All SCSI connectors are (evidently) 50 pin! I have checked with my local dealer and with MacConnection. They don't have them. I have checked with Cutting Edge and they don't have them! (There in is a story in itself. My Cutting Edge drive comes with an Ehman manual. I can live with that. Ehman packages the drive for Cutting Edge and provides tech support. I call Ehman (there's a handy 800 number in there adverts) about the problem and to complain and they politely tell me that I am barking up the wrong tree. Call Cutting Edge instead. (In fact, I did not realize that they were separate companies. How separate are they?)) So what's a fellow to do? Does anyone know of a source of the {NEW SCSI connect that fits a 25 pin connector? Any other solutions? So... next time you buy a drive, consider the size of the connectors and how easy/hard it is to remove the internal terminator (if there is one). Thanks Glenn Sowell sowell@hoss.unl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 14:09 MDT From: Bernie <BSWieser%UNCAMULT.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Spooler stuff My boss is interested in print spoolers for the Macintosh. If anyone has used any of the following, could you please send me a short review? If anyone knows of an existing review, please forward me to it. Products: SuperLaserSpool SuperSpool (by SuperMac) TurboSpool (by Peripheral Land) MacSpool (by Mainstay) GrapplerSpooler (Orange Micro) or anything else relivant not in the info-mac archives. Thanks much. Bernie Wieser Student, Developer U of C Psychology Dept. BSWieser -at uncamult.bitnet (or wieser@cpsc.ucalgary.ca for internet fans) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 90 12:20:14 EST From: Jon Finn <SCC00JCF%UNCCVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Stella Hello all, I am building some HyperCard stacks with a professor that require some simulations. I have chosen Stella and Stella Stack software to do the task, but find the included manuals to be inadequate. Does anyone know of any books or information that I can acccess? Any comments or help would be much appreciated. Jon Finn BITNET: scc00jcf@UNCCVM Consultant Academic Computing Services University of North Carolina at Charlotte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 1990 10:33 EST From: MORRISTA%UCMCIC@ucbeh.san.uc.edu Subject: Sys 6.0.5 vs. MacWrite 4.6 Any known problems between the old MacWrite 4.6 and System 6.0.5 (perhaps reminiscent of the problems with early WingZ)? We're trying to isolate some parameter-file trashing elsewhere, and know that the WingZ problem could cause memory to get messed up and trash what got rewritten out to disk as parameter files were read in and updated back out... Please don't ask why we're still using 4.6 (-: . =========================================================================== I'net MORRISTA@UCMCIC.OA.UC.EDU, A'lnk U1091, Fax 513-558-0758; no room for =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 90 09:31 EDT From: LEWIS%ITHACA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Tech notes There are many things that you would think are true that aren't. You would think, for example, that apple.com has available the latest tech note stack. You would think that they also could provide a complete set of the latest tech notes in MacWrite format. Neither is exactly true. They do have a stack, but I have an even more recent one, april '90 or version 3.3. Also, they have the august '90 updater but no other updaters (I'm talking macwrite here) for the year 1990! Thus you can get an earlier set of notes from them, but you can't fully update it as you won't have most of 1990's changes. Is there someone out there who has either the august 1990 stack or all of the notes up to either June 1990 or August 1990 and would be willing to send them to me? I know it would be a large file, but all you have to do is dump them into a folder and stuff the folder, binhex, lick stamp, and use the correct email address :). Many thanks to anyone who can help, and if I do get the notes this way, other ppl who wish them can get copies form me (for a while anyway as I would eventually have to delete the file from my account). Andrew Lewis Lewis@Ithaca : BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 90 17:20:30 EDT From: rvg@chem.wayne.edu (Rahul Garg) Subject: telnet 2.1 Does NCSA-Telnet 2.1 not work with KIP(0688). On installing KIP, ping is able to respond to the appletalk side of the KBox, but theres no reply from the ethernet side. Am I doing something wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.... -rahul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 90 12:26:11 -0700 From: August Hahn <hahna@u.washington.edu> Subject: Thanks, and another question... Thanks to all the people who responded about my HyperCard question. I should have expected that it won't work with monitors set to more than two colors. How annoying... My other question is for a friend. He wants to know if there is a version of Laserwriter 6.0 that defaults to black/white, not color printing. He has a textronix laser and an NTX, and he keeps forgetting to push the black/white button when he prints to the NTX (and that gives him an ID=01 error). Anyone know how to set the default in the print box? All help appreciated! I like getting 17 mail messages in one day! August Hahn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 15:35:04 EDT From: Jamer <PET101@ukcc.uky.edu> Subject: uiuc.edu Hello, A while ago I was given a list of ftp sites containing macintosh software. One of the biggest 'treasure-troves' I found was at uiuc.edu, under /mac/MUG. Apparantly this directory was a repository for all files accumulated by the Champaign-Urbana Macintosh Users Group. Unfortunately, as you may have guessed by my usage of the past tense, all the files appear to have been last updated in about May of 1989. Does anyone know if they moved to another spot, or any info this mystery? Respond to me via E-mail <PET101@UKCC.UKY.EDU>, and I'll report back to the list. Thanks, Jamer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 11:10:08 EDT From: Bob Rahe <CES00661%UDELVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Unexplained system crashes In InfomacV8#152, someone mentioned strange bombs when using SigmaEdit, altho not always. I had exactly the same troubles with any version over the early 1.1 version. Any version above that one seemed to cause me problems. I re-installed the 1.1 version, remembering never to open the "about" screen, and the problems go away. This has been on a Plus with 1, 2.5 and 4 megs, and various levels of the system. Bob ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************