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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 10 Oct 90 Volume 8 : Issue 168
Today's Topics:
C++ on the Mac?
Data Recovery from crashed HD's
EndNote DA/Master Juggler Problem?
GCC PLP II
GNU for the Mac
Is Motif available for A/UX?
Linear Programming
Macintosh Ethernet addresses
Minor Disinfectant 2.2 Prob
Mobius Full Page Display for SE
Printing Postscript files from a PC on the MAC
Print Spoolers and 6.0.5
Slides
Some replies about AUX communications.
Summary: MS-Word from Mac to PC
TidBITS information
VAX Mass 11 --> Mac format : Problem Solved! Thanks!
White Knight Developer's Toolkit
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 90 12:40 ITA
From: Alessandro Giovini <GIOVINI%IGECUNIV.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: C++ on the Mac?
I have to program on C++ on my Macintosh. Is it possible that
the only C++ implementation is the one in MPW 3.x? I have used
MPW 2.x and I do not want to use it again. I use THINK C 4.0 and
I am quite happy with it. Does anybody know about available implementations
of C++ usable from within THINK C? Does anyvody know of ANY
C++ implementation not running under MPW? (I just can't stand those
happy PC users having Turbo C++. I want something similar on the Mac.)
Alessandro Giovini
Dept. of Mathematics
University of Genova, Italy.
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 90 10:56:36 PDT
From: MCLOUDS%MCL.SAINET.MFENET@ccc.nersc.gov
Subject: Data Recovery from crashed HD's
hey gang,
a friend told me about an article he saw recently in one of the Mac magazines
about companies that can recover data from a crashed hard drive. Supposedly,
they remove the platters from the crashed drive and put them in something else
to read them. Anybody know of these companies? or which magazine/issue the
article was in?
I'm new to this net stuff but I'm pretty sure I can be reached at the
following address:
mclouds%mcl3.sainet.mfenet@ccc.nmfecc.gov
thanks, and waiting axciously,
Doug D'Autrechy
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 90 20:58:07 PDT
From: siegman@sierra.stanford.edu (Anthony E. Siegman)
Subject: EndNote DA/Master Juggler Problem?
Trying to run the EndNote DA through Master Juggler has crashed both a
Mac II and an SE/30 (both under System 6.0.5). If the EndNote DA is
loaded into the System file using Font/DA Mover, things seem to be OK,
at least on the SE/30. Is this a known incompatibility?
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 90 11:21:36 CDT
From: Paul Heroy <HEROY%LSUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: GCC PLP II
A couple of months ago I sent in a question about what kind of experiences
people had with low cost lasers - especially the Apple Personal SC, the GCC
Personal Laser Printer II, and the HP Laser Jet IID. Unfortunately, I got
absolutely no responses. Thus I made my choice on the information I could
glean from reviews and vendors. Here's a summary of what I found. (Note:
I ended up buying the PLP II, so I have more info on it, and more accurate.)
Printer Pros Cons
------- -------------------------------- ---------------------------
Apple SC It's an Apple. A little expensive, unless you
Works with printer spoolers. get a good discount.
Good quality print. PS upgrade is expensive.
Has its own processor so that Uses bit-mapped fonts unless
print speed isn't CPU dependent. you use ATM (and who wouldn't
at $55 by mail order!)
GCC PLP Inexpensive. Has no onboard CPU; thus is
PS upgrade cheap too. more dependent on Mac's CPU
Uses LED not laser, supposedly for printing speed.
more reliable. If an application has limited
Toll-free tech support - and memory available you must run
they're good! a 2nd program to print.
Comes with Bitstream outline Uses SCSI port; cable not
fonts - work very well. included and is short and
Sleep mode cuts power consumption more expensive ($30).
after user selected period.
Print quality good.
HP IIP uhmmmm... I don't know. Not really made for Mac.
Pain in the rear to con-
figure to work with Mac.
No apparent advantages over
the other 2 printers.
A few other notes on the PLP II: I bought mine on sale from MacProducts for
$1229 (plus $25 for a cable.) A few other mail order places sell it, but
unless you're really strapped for cash I'd suggest ordering directly from
GCC. It took a month for my printer to arrive, and they shipped it with the
wrong cable. (You need either 25 to 50 or 50 to 50 pin cable.) It took
several days to get in touch with MacProduct's Customer Service department
about exchanging the cable, despite the fact that I left a few messages on
their answering machine (though at least I didn't have to stay on hold -
it's not a toll-free number). They also charged a bunch for shipping (GCC
charges $9 for overnight), so in the end I only saved a little over $100,
while enduring a long wait and frustration after receiving the printer.
I have to give good marks to GCC's Tech Support. When I set up the PLP, the
cover wouldn't close completely - as the LCD panel informed me - and the
printer wouldn't completely power on. I talked to GCC and they suggested
that the fuser cleaner pad wasn't seated properly - which was exactly
correct. But the printer still didn't recognize the cover as being closed.
Another couple of calls and we figured out the the contact between the
sensor and the cover needed a little push to overcome a little stiffness or
something. Bingo, I was printing immediately. GCC's Tech Support was
friendly and knowledgeable - disappointingly unusual these days.
Paul Heroy BITNET: HEROY@LSUVM
System Network Computer Center Internet: heroy@lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu
Louisiana State University
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 90 12:07:55 EDT
From: "Henry M. Pita" <HMPQC%CUNYVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: GNU for the Mac
A reader writes
TT> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 90 00:11:38 SST
TT> From: TNG TaiHou
TT> <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
TT> Subject: GNU C & C++
TT>
TT> I know I still own the net a summary of games for the mac, but I
TT> can't help ask the next question while still compiling. I have seen
TT> the power of gnu c compiler on the sun workstation. Apple has
TT> ported it to AUX, I wonder why there isn't a port to the Mac OS as
TT> either a standalone or in the MPW environment. Is it that difficult
TT> to port? I want to know before attempting this feat myself. Thanks.
This raises the more general question of why there hasn't been more GNU
software for the Mac, i.e., software in the GNU spirit. Richard Stallman
et al. write the following commentary:
@unnumbered Special Report: Apple's New Look and Feel
You might have read about the new look-and-feel copyright
lawsuit, Apple vs. Hewlett Packard and Microsoft. Apple
claims the power to stop people from writing any program
that works even vaguely like a Macintosh. If they and other
look-and-feel plaintiffs triumph, they will use this new
power over the public to put an end to free software that
could substitute for commercial software.
In the weeks after the suit was filed, USENET reverberated
with condemnation for Apple. GNU supporters Richard
Stallman, John Gilmore, and Paul Rubin decided to take
action against Apple's no-longer-deserved reputation as a
force for progress. Apple's reputation comes from having
made better computers; but now, Apple is working to make all
non-Apple computers worse. If this deprives the public of
the future work of many companies, the harm done would be
many times the good that any one company does. Our hope was
that if the user community realizes how destructive Apple's
present actions are, Apple would lose customers and have
more trouble finding employees.
Our method of action was to print 5000 buttons that say
``Keep Your Lawyers Off My Computer'' and hand them out at
the West Coast Computer Faire. The center of the button
shows the rainbow-apple logo with a Gigeresque mouth full of
ferocious teeth. The picture was drawn by Etienne Suvasa,
who also drew the cover for the GNU Emacs manual. We call
the picture ``Apple's New Look and Feel''.
We gave out nearly 4000 buttons at the show (saving the rest
for afterwards). The result was a great success: the extent
of anger at Apple was apparent to everyone at the show.
Many of the invited speakers at the show wore our buttons,
spoke about them, or even waved them from the podium. The
press noticed this: at least one Macintosh user's magazine
carried a photo of the button afterwards.
Some of you may be considering using, buying, or
recommending Macintoshes; you might even be writing programs
for them or thinking about it. Please think twice and look
for an alternative. Doing those things means more success
for Apple, and this could encourage Apple to persist in its
aggression. It also encourages other companies to try
similar obstructionism.
It is because of this boycott that we don't include support
for Macintosh Unix in GNU software.]
You might think that your current project ``needs'' a
Macintosh now. If you find yourself thinking this way,
consider the far future. You probably plan to be alive a
year or two from now, and working on some other project. You
will want to get good computers for that, too. But an Apple
monopoly could easily make the price of such computers at
that time several times what it would otherwise be. Your
decision to use some other kind of machine, or to defer your
purchases now, might make sure that the machines your next
project needs are affordable when you need them.
Newspapers report that Macintosh clones will be available
soon. If you must buy a Macintosh-like machine, buy a
clone. Don't feed the lawyers!
hmpqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
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Date: 09 Oct 90 14:24 GMT
From: LAICHI.SPT@applelink.apple.com (Axis, Hector Rojas, Chile,ICC)
Subject: Is Motif available for A/UX?
Can anybody tell me if the Motif user interface is available for Apple
Computer's version of Unix, A/UX? Specifically for A/UX 2.0?
Thanks for your help,
-- Thomas Fruin Apple Chile
AppleLink: LAICHI.SPT laichi.spt@applelink.apple.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 90 14:08:35 CDT
From: Kenneth B. Kirksey <kkirksey@eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: Linear Programming
Does anyone out there know of a mac program for solving linear
programming problems. I'm doing a project for my Operations Research class
this quarter, and I need a program that will really do some crunching.
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Date: 08 Oct 90 16:24 GMT
From: D5969@applelink.apple.com (Neon Software, Michael Swan,PRT)
Subject: Macintosh Ethernet addresses
Apparently, there was a posting from a Mac support person on Info-Mac recently,
asking if there existed a utility to get the Ethernet address from a Mac
without having to look at the Ethernet card. There are a couple of utilities
that Neon Software produces that may be of interest:
(1) NetMinder Diagnostics: a utility that tests a wide variety of Macintosh
Ethernet cards for functionality. One of its many features is to report the
Ethernet address of the card.
(2) Roll Call: a utility that passively monitors the Ethernet and maps logical
names to Ethernet addresses. In addition, it picks up protcol addresses (IP,
AppleTalk, and XNS). It uses information on the network such as Responder
Names, rwho broadcasts, and router information to gather information about
Ethernet nodes.
These applications are provided at no charge on a demo disk from Neon Software.
As an aside, Neon Software produces NetMinder Ethernet, an Ethernet analyzer
that runs on the Macintosh. Neon Software can be contacted at (415) 283-9771
or by AppleLink at D5969.
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Date: 5 Oct 90 11:20:01
From: Pete Roberts <Pete_Roberts@qmlink.draper.com>
Subject: Minor Disinfectant 2.2 Prob
Subject: Time: 11:09 AM
OFFICE MEMO Minor Disinfectant 2.2 Problem Date: 10/5/90
Incompatibility report:
An incompatibility has been observed between the INITs SoundMaster 1.2 and
EyeBalls 1.0 and the About#201# window of Disinfectant 2.2 when the window is
playing music.
On a Mac IIx under system 6.0.2 with multiFinder and on a Mac II under system
6.0.5 with multiFinder (and no non-Apple INITs other than the ones mentioned
above), the incompatibility registers as a crash with System Error 11 or, in
the presence of MacsBug, registers as a crash with the message
"Spurious Interrupt or Uninitialized Interrupt Vector at Date2Secs"
-- Pete Roberts
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Date: 8 Oct 90 21:08:33 GMT
From: nardi@usna.navy.mil (LT Peter A. Nardi)
Subject: Mobius Full Page Display for SE
I noticed an ad in the latest issue of MacUser (Nov 1990 pg 179)
for a full page display manufactured by Zenith and offered by Mobius.
The $795 retail price tag includes 16MHz acceleration for a standard
SE. The price seems reasonable (RasterOps clear-view SE system
includes an accelerator and sells for around $1300 mail order) but
since it's such a new product I haven't seen any reviews on it yet.
Does anyone have any experience with this product? Comments good
or bad? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
pete nardi
nardi@cad.usna.navy.mil
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Date: 5 Oct 90 12:28:00 CDT
From: ferrill@eglin.af.mil
Subject: Printing Postscript files from a PC on the MAC
Our office has several IBM-PC type machines running various word processors
(Word Perfect, Wordstar) and desktop publishers (Ventura, GEM DTP) with one
problem: no easy to get output on a laser printer. We also have a MAC II
that has a Laserwriter II NTX attached. I attempted to print to a file and
use Apple File Exchange to move it over to the Mac and print it. However,
when I select the file and click on "Print" I get an error of the type:
"Application not found".....
Has anyone accomplished this feat before and if so how? Am I barking up
the wrong tree?
Please respond to me as I am not a member of this list.
Paul Ferrill
ferrill@eglin.af.mil
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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 90 08:02:30 +0100
From: Darkinbad The Good! <hpj%cxa.dl.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Print Spoolers and 6.0.5
I have recently upgraded my the systems on our network here from various
states of system 6.0.x. Now all the Macs are using 6.0.5.
We have now however come across a problem (Suprise Suprise) involving the print
spooler.
Up until the upgrade we were successfully using Tops Spool DA/Init which was
provided with the Tops networking software. (We have version 2.x).This has now
stopped working under system 6.0.5. What I would like to know is if anyone
else has had similar problems with this spooler, and what if anything was done
to remedy the problem?
For instance does the new version of Tops (3.x) provide a spooler which works
with System 6.0.5 or are there commercial spoolers which will run under 6.0.5?
Or do I have to take the painful step of downgrading all the machines back to
6.0.4 or 6.0.3!
I have tried one commercial spooler called SuperLaserSpool but the version that
I had didn't seem to work at all on MacII's (IIcx and IIx) running 6.0.5.
This may have be because it was an old version.
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Please post them either to me or to the net.
As always thanks in Advance.
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 90 10:12:02 EDT
From: Kathy DuBose <DUBOSE%AKRONVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Slides
Hi,
I apologize for cross-postings, but I am looking for software that will
allow me to manage a 50,000+ slide collection. My obvious choice is
Excel, but I was wondering if someone could suggest something else
that is very user-friendly.
The user also wants to print labels for the slides (2X2 inch). He has
heard of a package by the name of LabelWare, but I couldn't find any
information about it or any other software that could be used to print
slide labels. So I would also appreciate any information on this also.
You may respond directly to me DUBOSE@AKRONVM
Thanks,
Kathy DuBose
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Date: Fri, 5 OCT 90 11:18:15 GMT
From: AEIC0456%VAX1.CENTRE.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Some replies about AUX communications.
Thanks to Brian Bechtel <blob@COM.APPLE> and Steve Everhard
<EVERHARD1@com.apple.applelink> for replies about my AUX comms
queries. I think some of the info they supplied is worth sharing.
Regarding ethernet cards and MacX, Brian sent the following:
_ I use an Asante card in my SE/30 for both A/UX and MacOS. It works
fine; no additional software beyond the standard Apple stuff is
necessary. I understand that their NuBus cards are the same quality.
_ You get a X11R4 server, plus a Mac program called MacX which can run
either under MacOS or A/UX. You can really have all that stuff on the
screen at the same time (although it's pretty ugly on an SE/30 size
screen. Set aside in Multifinder really helps). It's stable.
Regarding sharing files between ethernet and localtalk nets, ethernet cards,
and MacX, Steve sent this:
_ The situation with communications is that both TCP and AppleTalk are
supported under the Mac shell but that no software exists to provide a
gateway facility between them. What this means is that you can certainly
mount remote filesystems to your root filesystem using NFS and get
access to them on *your* Macintosh but they will NOT be available to
other Macintosh's on the AppleTalk network. In short it doesn't appear
like TOPS or GatorShare. Another product that you might be interested
in is a new Macintosh NFS client software product from Wollongong. I
understand that it is currently in beta release but will be distributed
through Persona and FrontLine eventually. This product will allow
access to NFS servers from the Mac/OS and as it uses MacTCP should also
run under A/UX 2.0 - still no gateway function though!
_ As far as the Ethernet cards are concerned there are several releases of
the Apple Ethernet card in circulation which are functionally identical,
except for version 'L'. This is the latest release of the card and has
increased buffer size from 16K to 64K. Unfortuneately the increased buffer
is only available to the A/UX driver running TCP. Other cards that work
equally well under A/UX are from 3-COM (uses the same drivers) and the
Kinetics cards (different drivers). I'm not sure on the status of the
EtherTalk card drivers from 3rd parties but I suspect that few have
adapted their drivers for A/UX.
_ Finally, MacX. MacX is an X11 rel4 server that runs happily over TCP,
AppleTalk, and DECnet. It implements a full backing store for improved
redrawp erformance and supports up to 256 colours. The X-Clipboard has
been replaced by support for the Mac ClipBoard which enables X-Windows
text to be cut and pasted between X-Windows Clients and Macintosh (or
Unix) applications - this is a two way migration!! Soo-oooo, on the same
desktop you can run MS-DOS (and Windows), Unix, X-Windows and Macintosh
applications plus any terminal sessions into any host you care to name
and cut and paste happily between the whole lot!! To paraphrase a famous
journalist "...can anyone remind me what is meant by Open Systems?..."
Thanks again, George
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 90 18:12 MET
From: Derk Ederveen <D_Ederveen%pttrnl.nl@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Summary: MS-Word from Mac to PC
As promised, the summary of our query
RE: MS-Word 4.0 from Mac to PC ?
(in fact the answer from Milan Ralitsch, with some remarks from others added):
- Use Word for Windows 1.1 if you want an
interface similar to the Mac's version (4.0). The interface of the
DOS version (MS Word 5.0) is totally different and somewhat
awkward if you are used to the Mac.
- Yes, it is possible to convert Word files from the Mac to
the PC. Regardless of what version of Word is going to be
used on the PC, the best way is saving the file as an RTF
file (use Save As, in the File menu and then click on the
File Formats button, to get a list of the different formats.
The last option is RTF, Interchange format). This will save
the file in ASCII, in a format that all Microsoft programs
can read and interpret.
Now, you will have to transfer it to the PC. Use
a modem, a cable (with MaclinkPlus PC, for example), or the
Apple File Exchange, a utility that comes bundled with
every copy of the Mac OS. You will need a formatted 3.5"
PC disk. On the Mac, double-click on Apple File Exchange
and then insert the PC floppy in the drive. Two new menu
items will appear. Select "Text Translation" from the
"Mac-To-MSdos" menu and then click on the OK button. Don't
change any of the options in the dialog box. Now, find the
RTF file on the Mac disk (on the left hand side of the screen)
and select it. Click on the "Translate" button. Voila.
Now the RTF file is on the PC disk.
Just one little thing. Only the Mac SuperDrive (1.44MB) (FLHD?) is
capable of reading/writing PC disks. This won't work with the
800K drive. So, you'll need access to a Mac II or one of the
newer Macs with the high-denisty drive (like an
SE/30, IIcx, IIci, recent SE, etc.).
- No, it doesn't include graphics. You will loose all graphics
that have been pasted on to Word. There are programs on the PC
that can read MacPaint files. For MacDraw II, I don't know.
There are translators available for Apple File Exchange, that
will convert any format into any other format. These are
commercially available. I don't remember the name now, but
I'll find out and send you a message to that regard.
- Yes, there are plenty of programs equivalent to MacPaint and
Mac Draw on the PC. The list is very extensive, so I won't
post it here.
o As far as the graphics goes, you might want to conver the graphics to
PICT or TIFF format. However I think that MS Word for Windows
is able to understand MacPaint format. There are several graphics programs
that run on PC's. For instance PC Paintbrush, Windows Paint, Windows Draw+,
Arts & Letters, Adobe Illustrator, and more sophisticated programs such
as CorelDraw and Micrografix designer.
It's a bit more flexible than Freehand, but simpler to use.
Thanks to all who helped!
groeten / salutojn,
Derk Ederveen
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 90 10:21:48 EDT
From: "Adam C. Engst" <PV9Y%CORNELLA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: TidBITS information
Sorry about the font mixup of the previous two weeks. It
turns out that SuitCase II's Font Harmony program got its hands
on my fonts at one point and renumbered everything for me. At
the time I was grateful, but several of you pointed out that
while I had changed the font to New York, since my FOND ID# was
wrong, no one else saw the change. My apologies and the New
York font that is currently being used has the correct FOND #
(I reinstalled from my system disks).
Also in response to several requests I am now including a
short sentence describing each article after the title in the
index. As much as TidBITS is designed to be easy and fast and
archivable, some people prefer not to download each issue if
they aren't interested in the articles that week. Each to his
or her own, but I suggest that you download and archive the
articles anyway if you can, because I often discover that I
have become interested in a topic that I wasn't interested in
previously. That's when a complete archive comes in handy.
For those of you who let me know that sumex-aim.stanford.edu
was missing several issues (14 and 15), thanks, and I've re-
submittted them.
Index of TidBITS 10/01/90 - Issue 23
10/01/90 - Reviews
ANTI-B - A new virus that appeared in France and a new
version of Disinfectant to combat it.
Boomerang Makes Good - About the new versions of Boomerang
and how it will be included in the Now Utilities.
Canon Optical Card - Canon has a new credit card-sized
optical card that can store about 2 megabytes.
Portable Computer Clothing - Where computers should be
heading in terms of smaller size and what is happening to get
there.
Adam C. Engst pv9y@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 90 22:51:02 GMT
From: glennc@truebalt.cco.caltech.edu (Glenn C. Smith)
Subject: VAX Mass 11 --> Mac format : Problem Solved! Thanks!
Thank you all for your great help. We've now got a working solution
to translate Mass 11 documents to the Macintosh. Mass 11 has a
utility to export a file in DCA format. We then kermit the file over
to the mac (using the binary option of course) and then translate
the file into RTF with an apple file exchange document (one comes
both with Apple file exchange and with MSWord). MSWord can then
read in RTF.
We've already transfered several documents, it works great. And
thanks to all of you who directed me to MakeWrite and Keypak. Its
good to know about those programs for the future.
Thanks again for all your help,
Glenn C. Smith
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 90 19:52:03 PDT
From: proteus@med.stanford.edu (Gregg L. Kasten)
Subject: White Knight Developer's Toolkit
Does anybody know if Scott Watson (developer of White Knight) has made
the White Knight Developer's Toolkit available, yet? If so, does
anybody know where I might obtain it on the Internet? I would like to
be able to write RCMDs (external commands) for White Knight.
Thanks very much.
Gregg L. Kasten
proteus@med.stanford.edu
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