[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V8 #169

Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (10/11/90)

Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 10 Oct 90       Volume 8 : Issue 169 

Today's Topics:

      [*] Compactor 1.21
      [*] CreateStack xcmd
      [*] Default 2.1
      [*] Mac/gnuucp 2.6
      [*] MacCribbage 0.8
      [*] MacPassword.hqx
      Big Screen
      Command line shell for Mac
      DeskWriter and LocalTalk
      Diamond Demo
      EMC software for Mac?
      Ethernet Cards
      Full Page Displays
      HDFD problems
      Hypercard and Sounds
      jasmine returns?
      Looking for info on Menu Screen Dump
      Mac Populations
      MPW C++ dump/load don't work?
      Plotting in Mathematica
      setting font sizes for fred-windows
      STAT PACKS ON MACS
      StuffIt
      Transfer to VM/CMS
      Why does my machine keep hanging?
      X windows on the Mac

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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 90 13:57:23 EDT
From: Kenneth Sussmann (PBMA) <sussmann@pica.army.mil>
Subject: [*] Compactor 1.21

Here is Compactor 1.21, an excellent file compression program.
Written by Bill Goodman, it is shareware costing $ 25.00.  It
compacts files better than Stuffit and faster.  Folders can be
created within the archive and files added or extracted from
them.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/compactor-121.hqx; 108K]

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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 90 10:21:49 EDT
From: "Adam C. Engst" <PV9Y%CORNELLA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] CreateStack xcmd

Grr, sorry about that...

I received a request for this XCMD from someone who said it wasn't at
sumex, so I said I'd send it along again...

This is Frederic Rinaldi's CreateStack XCMD, which allows you to
create a new stack under script control, which was impossible before.

Adam

[Archived as /info-mac/card/xcmd/create-stack.hqx; 17K]

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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 90 22:43:53 PDT
From: lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Subject: [*] Default 2.1

Here is the new version 2.1 of the Default CDEF.

The Default CDEF is a simple aid for Macintosh programmers that draws default
button outlines for any size buttons, in the proper color, in your application
and in ResEdit dialog and alert templates. Push buttons, check boxes, and radio
buttons can also be drawn using the window's font.

+++
Lloyd Lim     Internet: lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (128.120.57.20)
              Compuserve: 72647,660
              US Mail: 146 Lysle Leach Hall, U.C. Davis, Davis, CA 95616

[Archived as /info-mac/tech/default-21.hqx; 11K]

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Date: Sat, 28 Jul 90 23:35:21 EDT
From: odell@bu-it.bu.edu (Jim O'Dell)
Subject: [*] Mac/gnuucp 2.6

Mac/gnuucp is a port of the Free Software FoundationUs GNUUCP to the
Macintosh. As with all of the Free Software Foundation code, complete source
code is available and will be posted to the net soon.

Mac/gnuucp actually consists of two separate pieces a Hypercard card through whcih mail is read and sent and the communications program itself.
The program has successfully communicated with SunUs, DEC Vaxes running, COMPAQ 386Us and remote copies of itself.

In addition to standard Unix UUCP compatibility the program supports
mailing lists, called aliases and customization through a gnuucp.ctl file.

Mail is delivered to users by writing the mail to a standard Macintosh
file. Because of this, a group of users on almost any type of Appletalk network can use the program to send mail locally and to the internet.

A complete manual is included along with instructions for registering your
Mac on the internet and for obtaining a domain name. Information is also
included on finding a "Well Connected" internet host.

Questions or inquiries to: jim@fpr.com


[Archived as /info-mac/comm/mac-gnuucp-26.hqx; 228K]

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 90 16:00 EDT
From: <MHOUSER%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] MacCribbage 0.8

This is the first release of MacCribbage.  This game has an intuitive
interface for cribbage which closely simulates the actual playing of
cribbage while holding true to the Macintosh User Interface Guidelines.

This program is released as shareware ($5).

Michael T. Houser
Shari M. Houser
InterStellar SoftWare
2 Graystone Avenue
Granby, MA  01033


[Archived as /info-mac/game/mac-cribbage-08.hqx; 94K]

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 90 13:40:45 -0500
From: Paul Broe <broe@plains.nodak.edu>
Subject: [*] MacPassword.hqx

This is the latest (v3.80) version of MacPassword. Remember to read the
documentation before using this the first time. It is a demo version. For
information on registering and getting the full version, read the documentation
included in this stuffit archive.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated in any way with the author of MacPassword or
Evergreen Software except as a satisfied registered user.

Paul Broe
broe@plains.nodak.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/demo/macpassword-380.hqx; 237K]

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 14:40:56 PLT
From: Wayne Joerding <JOERD@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu>
Subject: Big Screen

I am interested in purchasing a two page monitor for my MacII and am
considering three low cost models by Mirror, Ehman, and MegaGraphics.
Does anybody have experience with these monitors that might help me make
a choice.  Any assistance would be appreciated.

Bitnet:JOERD@WSUVM1

Thanks,

Wayne Joerding

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 90 12:37:16 EDT
From: dmg@retina.mitre.org (David Gursky)
Subject: Command line shell for Mac

Many years ago, in the early days of the Macintosh, someone wrote a DA that
enabled you to operate the Mac using a Unix-like command shell.  Does anyone
know the name of this DA, or have a copy of it?

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 09:38:00 CDT
From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight  SIEMUK )
Subject: DeskWriter and LocalTalk

     Oh you lucky people!

     A couple of weeks ago I posted an inquiry seeking enlightenment on the 
status of the HP DeskWriter in a networked environment. Many thanks to the 
people who sent me messages.
     
     All the replies I had were from the Western side of the Atlantic. The 
scam was that for a sum varying in estimation from $130 to $160, one could 
send one's original serial DW to HP and have it return in LocalTalk form, 
with the updated Vers 2.0 driver. Apparently this driver still doesn't do 
background printing, according to a corresponent inside HP (the recent
revision of the PaintJet driver does- we have it here). 

     I took our DW to bits to scope the job; It would have taken me less
than 5 minutes, due to the superb design, so I can't see why even local
dealers couldn't do upgrades. 

     I heard from my local dealer that there is a fair heap of old machines
in the warehouses, so intending UK purchasers would do well to specify
which type they want. Or look out for good deals on the serial type. 

     I just spent a while on the phone to HP UK. The first person assumed I 
was on about Novell networks, and the second sounded like she hadn't 
encountered the question before. The answer she came back with was bad 
news: the option is not available to UK customers, but she did offer me a 
_brochure_ on the new machine as consolation. 

     Disappointed isn't the word.

Francis K

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 13:09:54 EDT
From: Cameron_Esfahani@ub.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Diamond Demo

I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions and mailed copies of 
Diamond Demo.  I anonymous ftp-ed it from ub.cc.umich.edu, it was called
DEMO/DIAMOND. 
 
Again though, does anyone know of any PD, shareware, FREE raytracers for the
Mac other than the raytracer already in the archives here?  Thanks again.
 
     Cameron (6yhn)

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 10:11:35 CDT
From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight  SIEMUK )
Subject: EMC software for Mac?

     Hi! It's me again.

     1992 is a magic number over here. If you make Electromagnetic 
Compatibility (EMC) testing equipment, and you recite this magic number, 
people become gripped by an urge to throw money at you.

     Well, we're in the process of gathering our pile of green and 
crinklies together, and deciding who to take aim at. We have an EMC 
susceptibility test facility at the moment, controlled by an ageing HP85B,
with software written by a (rapidly) ageing Engineer (guess who). It's
highly likely that a new machine will arrive to drive the upgraded
facility. 

     Over the past couple of weeks, we have visited EMC consultants to test
a development product, and observed their operations with our upgrade in
mind. On this basis, I've decided that sitting for hours on end in a
screened room fighting with clunky DOS-Windows software isn't for me. The
software repeatedly stopped with 'Perverse system response detected' or
some such, which got very wearing. 

     So, I've got a chance to start another BuyaMac campaign. Has anyone 
any experience or knowledge of wondrous Mac-based EMC susceptibility
testing software which will help my task in an anti-Mac environment? Please!

Thanks, all
Francis K

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 17:44:31 MDT
From: dick%arisia.ta52@lanl.gov (Dick Wiley (system))
Subject: Ethernet Cards

The Interlan MacConnect NIA310 Ethernet card for the Mac works fine with
systems through 6.0.4, but if you are planning on installing A/UX 2.0 you
would be wise to choose another card.  There is no A/UX driver for the
NIA310, and I understand that Racal does not plan to produce one for at least
six months.

Dick Wiley	dick@arisia.ta52.lanl.gov

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 15:01 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen)
Subject: Full Page Displays

Greetings,

We are looking for recommendations (positive or negative) regarding Full Page
Displays (also known as Portrait Displays). We want to connect one to a Mac SE.
Price is, of course, a factor, but so is quality and especially reliability.

If you have experience with a particular brand/model I would be interested in
your impressions.

Please respond directly to me and I will summarize to the net.

Thanks in advance.

Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
AppleLink - U0523
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-1000 ext 742

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 19:54:53 +0200
From: "David L. Hirschberg" <BNHIRSCH%WEIZMANN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: HDFD problems

Hi,

I am having problems with the high density floppy drive in my SE/30.  I
bought my Mac in June of 1989 and have already suffered from a "Quantum
crash" which was compounded by the fact that I am in school in Israel and
Apple Israel does not honor US warranties.

The drive can not format disks at 800K.  It was always a little quirky at
formatting 1.44 MB disks.  I thought is was a problem with the disks, so I
only used 800K.  About 6 months ago I noticed that a high percentage of my
800K disks would fail when I tried to reformat them or when I would copy
large files onto them.  I just assumed that it was because I was using cheap
disks or the dusty conditions here.  Tonight I have gone through about 10
disks and many of them are new.  I used Sum II to check a few of the disks
that gave me a error message when I tried to copy a large file.  I was told
that there were bad blocks at the end of the disk.  I had checked these disks
before I brought them home and there were no bad blocks.  All the bad disks
can be formatted at 400K.

So what is going on and how much is it going to cost me?  Is anyone else
having problems with their HDFD?

Any help or advice you can give me would be appreciated.


Thank you

David L. Hirschberg

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 21:05:50 GMT (Postman Pat ver 3.1)
From: Drew <AL.Radtke%bradford.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Hypercard and Sounds

Ok, I'm going to have to admit defeat on this one.

I have a sound which has been recorded at the wrong sampling rate, and
it is very hard for me to get it re sampled. I have been trying to get
Hypercard's "play" command to get it to play at the right speed.

However I can't get it to work.  The best I can do is this which plays the
sample  (which  is  called "Ramair1") at the sampled (slow) speed and then
afterwards at the correct speed.

on mouseUp
  play "ramair1" w..... "66"
end mouseUp

I'm  sure  it must be possible to get round this problem.  Has anybody any
ideas?

Drew Radtke
University of Bradford, UK

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Date: Tue 9 Oct 90 07:04:18-HST
From: Harold Miller <CNET2SH@uhccvx.uhcc.hawaii.edu>
Subject: jasmine returns?

Jasmine just called to say that a drive I sent in for repair 1 year ago
is finally being fixed and returned.
I have a lab that I put together 2 years ago with 16 20M Jasmine drives,
and, of course, they are failing left-and-right.  Has anyone had any
success in getting Jasmine to repair out-of-warranty drives at NO CHARGE?
After all, the drives failed because (a) Jasmine made an inferior drive
and (b) some of the drives failed while under warranty but Jasmine wasn't
around to honor it!
Thanks!
Harold Miller
Media Coordinator
Seabury Hall
Maui, Hawaii
CNET2SH@UHCCVX.BITNET
Applelink: K1993
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 90 13:11:10 EDT
From: carol@platypus.uofs.edu (Carol Herre)
Subject: Looking for info on Menu Screen Dump

Dear Info-Mac members:

     I am looking for information on a MacIntosh public domain routine called
Menu Screen Dump.  It supposedly allows screen dumps with the menu bar 
omitted.  I would like to know if the routine is available via anonymous ftp,
or any other method of securing a copy.  Thanks for the assistance.

Carol Herre
University of Scranton; Scranton,  PA

PLEASE RESPOND TO ME DIRECTLY, I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE LIST.  ch

email  carol@platypus.uofs.edu
       CLH702@scranton.bitnet

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 11:45:05 CDT
From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight  SIEMUK )
Subject: Mac Populations

     ..and again!

     I had a thought-provoking conversation with a Mac software distributor 
the other day. We were bemoaning the poor showing of the Mac in the UK, and 
he mentioned the following statistics. 

     UK Mac population: 120 000 	(UK human population ~ 60 M)
     Australia Mac pop: 150 000         (Aus human population ~ 15 M)

     So, 1 Mac per 100 head of Australian population, 1 per 500 UK
population. Ever since the micro boom, the UK has been patting itself on
its collective back for being computer-literate, but these figures make me
wonder if this is unfounded. I suppose overall Micros/head could be higher
in the UK, but could widespread knowledge of one operating system, ie DOS,
be called literate any more than people having knowledge of only one book?
     
     I suspect the problem goes back to the early days when there was a
spring flush of indigenous manufacturers. Most of the UK's early hackers
were assembling Tangerine systems or tying their fingers in knots on
ZX80's. When the first Apple II's arrived, they went for a less crowded
market, the small businesses. And that's become a habit that still
persists, it seems to me. 

     Anyway, does anybody have comparative figures for other countries 
which might be of interest to other netters?

Cheers,
Francis K.

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Date: 09 Oct 90 14:24 GMT
From: LAICHI.SPT@applelink.apple.com (Axis, Hector Rojas, Chile,ICC)
Subject: MPW C++ dump/load don't work?

Can anybody tell me if the MPW C++ compiler directives to "dump" and "load"
symbol tables work?  I haven't tried this out myself, but a developer I know
complained that these directives (similar to MPW C #pragma dump and load)
didn't work.
 
We are using MPW C++ version 3.1bX (I don't remember what beta release, but we
received it recently from APDA).
 
Thanks for any help you can give me!
 
-- Thomas Fruin                       Apple Chile
 
   AppleLink: LAICHI.SPT              laichi.spt@applelink.apple.com
 

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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 90 13:43:33 EDT
From: Tom P <TPRUSA@sbccvm>
Subject: Plotting in Mathematica

To more experienced Mathematica Users:
       When I use the Plot command in Mathematica I get a list of
the points in the plot instead of the plotted (or graphed) figure.
Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong... Am I supposed to
be setting an option?  tom

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 17:18:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nicholas Kushmerick <nk09+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: setting font sizes for fred-windows

I want to be able to change the font specification (specifically, the
size) of a fred-window.   The problem is that when I change from a
larger to a smaller font, the font itself changes, but the spacing
between lines (leading?) does not, so the window appears double-spaced. 
Here's what I do:
(let* ((the-fred <some fred window>))
       (the-buffer (ask the-fred (window-buffer)))
       (new-font <some font spec>))
   ; do all the characters in the buffer
   (buffer-set-font-spec the-buffer new-font
                         :start 0
                         :end (buffer-size the-buffer))
   ; do the insertion font
   (buffer-set-font-spec the-buffer new-font)
   ; set the window-font
   (ask the-fred (set-window-font new-font))  ; X
   ; redraw everything
   (ask the-fred (view-draw-contents)))

Curious additional detail:  If the-fred happens to be the listener
window (i.e., *top-listener*), this code works just fine.  But, if I get
rid of the line marked X, the same thing happens to listeners as well.

I changed everything that I could think of; what else should I be doing?
 How does setting the font for the buffer interact with setting the font
for the window with which the buffer is associated?

-- Nick

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 16:05:54 EDT
From: Christian <EAE102%URIACC.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: STAT PACKS ON MACS

The powers that be at our site are considering populating our Mac labs with
copies of a statistical package, probably MINITAB.
What kind of statistical software do you run on your Mac(s)?
Is it sufficient for you or your users?
If you license Minitab, please let me know what kind of licensing you are
doing, site license or lab license.
Thanks for your help.

======================================================================


Christian Vye                         "Reality is still the best place
University of Rhode Island             to get a good steak."
Academic Computer Center, User Services                  --Woody Allen
Kingston, RI 02881

Tel.: 401/792-2501                                   Fax: 401/789-4040
E-Mail: EAE102@URIACC.URI.EDU or EAE102@URIACC

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 09:13 CDT
From: <MWW%TNTECH.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Michael W. Wheeler)
Subject: StuffIt

>Received: From ARIZVM1(MAILER) by TNTECH with Jnet id 8069
>          for MWW@TNTECH; Tue,  9 Oct 90 19:51 CDT
>Received: from ARIZVM1 (SHANKMAS) by ARIZVM1.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU (Mailer R2.07)
> with BSMTP id 8994; Tue, 09 Oct 90 17:49:20 MST
>Date:         Tue, 09 Oct 90 17:43:09 MST
>From:         Steve Shankman <SHANKMAS@ARIZVM1>
>Subject:      stuffit
>To:           mww@tntech
>
>PLEASE tell me if you get an answer to your question concerning stuffit
>troubles...I've had the same problem many times...I tried downloading "fortune"
>part 1 through 3 and I can't use it due to a bad archive...or sometimes I
>try to decode a binhex file and I get an EOF error.
>
>Thanks for your help.

As far as your trouble with "fortune" it might be that "fortune" is not
a StuffIt archive but is a PackIt archive instead. The proper way to
unpack it with StuffIt is to use the "Other" menu and choose the "unpack"
option instead of trying to use the "File" menu to "Open" it as a StuffIt
archive. I hope this will help you with that problem.

Now, about that EOF error; that is probably caused by the binhex file
not having a line that *BEGINS* with
(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
If it cannot find the above line left justified it will read all the way
to the end of the file tring to find it to no avail hence the EOF error
message.  One reason for this might be that the file might have been send
to you in "Listserv-Punch" format or "LPunch" format. This is done for files
that have records larger than 80 characters. For instance the game GO.HQX was
sent to me this way.  So you must first unLPunch it with some utility. I wrote
my own program to do it because I couldn't find one anywhere.

Here is an excerpt from GO.HQX so that you can see what LPunch format looks
like.

64/1/This is public domain, so you may give it to friends and post to
16/1/bulletin boards.
1/1/
8/1/Regards,
3/1/Jim
45/1/(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
1/1/
64/1/:!NG[!%&38%a(6dG2)!#3"J'*llT`!*!%!3!!!BEN!!'&j!!!!`YdFQ9QER9Y#R"
64/1/bD@jdCJT`GA4c#JS!r$)d0JS!!%iJ,J*(EdF#!*!$39"36%G24dmK!*!+E`#3"N&
64/1/38%a(6dG2)3#3%`(B!!#ELXar!*!&!BR[0$B+'$!Z!!`JEJ!)jB""k#Cbd-!J%#e

As you can see each line is prefixed with "x/n/text" where "x" is the number
of characters in the original line of text -- where "n" is the number of lines
in the lpunch file that make up the original line -- and where "text" is
the actual text of the message.

You will notice that the line that is supposed to read as follows:
(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
now instead reads:
45/1/(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)

This will confuse the program that is trying to unbinhex the file
and cause it to get an EOF error.

I hope this solves the EOF error for you.

Michael W. Wheeler  (Bitnet: mww@tntech)
VAX/VMS Systems Support Specialist
Tennessee Technological University
Box 5071
Cookeville, TN  38505
(615) 372-3977

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Date: WED, 10 Oct 90 11:23:40 EDT
From: "Marc Dionne" <TRRMICR%UQTR.UQuebec.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Transfer to VM/CMS

We want to transfert some text file form Macintosh to IBM VM/CMS. I plan to use
binhex4 in my Mac to encode my text file to be sur to not lose some caractere
and I look for, or I will write, a program who will decode that. To write the
program, I need the specification of the format of a binhex4 file.

So, does someones could send me the specification of the format of a binhex4
file or if you have a program who decode binhex4 in an IBM, I interested to.


Thanks in advance,


Marc Dionne
Service de l'informatique
Universite du Quebec a Trois-Rivieres
3351 Boul. Des Forges
Trois-Rivieres, Quebec, Canada
G9A 5H7

TRRMICR@UQUEBEC.CA
(819) 376-5100

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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 90   8:31 GMT
From: Big Nose <LAWA%IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Why does my machine keep hanging?

Dear All

My Mac has started playing up. When I put floppies into the drive, if
I move the mouse before the disk has been fully mounted, then it
frequently hangs the whole machine up. I suspected that Gatekeeper Aid
may be responsible, since it should be busy doing its thing right at the
point that the problem occurs. When I checked the version number of GKA
in my system folder, I noticed that the icon for the GKA document was
missing, and instead all I got was the plain old generic icon. The icon
does show up when I boot from a floppy. Rebuilding the desktop has not
helped. The bundle bit in GKA is not set, but then neither is it on the
copy on the floppy boot disk, and that one seems to know what the icon
looks like OK. In the mean time, the problem continues apace. So far the
crash hasn't come during anything important. I'd hate it to happen in the
middle of a backup/restore though.

Anyone got any ideas?

Relevant information :-
Gatekeeper 1.1.1 (26th June 1989), GKA 1.0.2 (5th Aug 1990), System 6.0.3,
Mac SE, 2MB, FDHD, 20MB Hard Disk.
other pertinent INITs:-
Boomerang 2.0B9 (31st Jan 1989) (I have an old version 'cos it's free!!)

Thanks for any suggestions,

Andy

LAWA @ UK.AC.AFRC.IAPE                            Big Nose in Edinburgh.

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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 15:54:55 -0400
From: fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Subject: X windows on the Mac

I would like to that all of those who gave me the titles of X window software
for the Mac. The list of titles is:

eXodus from White Pine Software
MacX from Apple.

If anyone could throw in a PD or shareware title (and where it resides), I'll
still accept that too.

Again thanks a lot!



"Be seeing you."
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Francis N. Godfrey |Computing and Network Services|"It was the server
Syracuse University|Micro Cluster Support         |      that did it"-Mystery
fgodfrey@SUVM.BITNET  ATTACHTO Standard.disclaimer|fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu

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