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Info-Mac Digest Mon, 15 Oct 90 Volume 8 : Issue 170 Today's Topics: Administrative Print Spooler Bad Disk Big Screen CAD/CAM Systems Command line shell for mac Crossword Puzzle Maker Endnote DA/Master Juggler conflict Info-Mac Digest V8 #168 Ethernet cards Fonts and Documents HyperCard & sound (fixing a sound's rate with SoundEdit) hypercard, NCSA telnet, biff crash: why? Hypercard 2.0? Info-Mac Digest V8 #116 Mac on Token Ring MacPaint/SuperPaint 2.0 formats MacPaint problems on appleshare Motif available for A/UX New Fractal Design Software Plotting in Mathematica Programming - How to get EtherNet address? Singleshare Version #? Solutions to Imagewriter II Problems Standard video (vcr) from Mac II surge protection TinCan Documentation Translate resources Troff to Mac converters Warm boot key sequence Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 17:42:52 -0900 From: "Big MAC..." <AXMAC%ALASKA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Administrative Print Spooler Hello, Here at the University of Alaska, Anchorage, we have a AppleTalk network set up with both an ImageWriter and a Laserwriter IINTX. The LaserWriter is free to everyone who wants to use it, but we have some rules we would VERY much like to have followed. 1) Final copies only to the LaserWriter. (Use the ImageWriter for draft) 2) Printing 1 or 2 copies of something, not 50 to 100. Becuase the LaserWriter is an expensive thing to operate, we would like a way for us to control how much is printed. We have had several abuses in the past such as people using it to produce 100+ banners to hang around campus! We try to tell them to use the PHOTOCOPIER, but alas... SO, the reason for this posting is, does anyone out there have an adminstrative-type Print Spooler? I would really appreciate any help someone could give us! Thanks in advance... Marc A. Casillo AXMAC@ALASKA.BITNET Student User Consultant AXMAC@ACAD3.FAI.ALASKA.EDU University Of Alaska, Anchorage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 08:20:34 EDT From: scooter@emunix.emich.edu (Todd McDaniel) Subject: Bad Disk Help!! A friend of mine recently purchased an SE. She worked on it for several days w/o a hitch. This how she described what happened, a real novice here. She was experimenting with superpaint and it just stopped! OK. Sure, what else did you do, I ask. Well, I triied to put a disk in the other day and it didn't quite go in, I took it out and it was still spinning. I work in a mac lab and I see that happen. But this is where it get's out of my hands! Turn it on and get to the desktop, the HD mounts alright, no disk in the i internal drive. It says disk in the internal drive unreadable, format/eject. So I hit eject, the alert disappears. Another alert comes up and says that the external drive is unreadable. She doesn't have an external drive! These b two alerts continue to alternate even during applications. I ran Disk first aid. HD and her internal are OK, but, I get: --Disk With Bad Name-- (external Floppy Drive) (which doesn't even exist!!) I click the drive box and I get this: --Disk With Bad Name-- () (DFA doesn't even know where it is!!) This has really got me vexxed! I just can't igure it out! I hope a few tech-types will know what to do!!! Please(!!!) Email me at: scooter@emunix.emich.edu Thanx in advance!! Todd McDaniel Eastern Michigan U. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 05:26:41 GMT From: palmer@truebalt.cco.caltech.edu (David Palmer) Subject: Big Screen Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes: >I am interested in purchasing a two page monitor for my MacII and am >considering three low cost models by Mirror, Ehman, and MegaGraphics. >Does anybody have experience with these monitors that might help me make >a choice. Any assistance would be appreciated. I am about to return the fourth Cutting edge (= Ehman sold through distributors) monitor that my distributor has sent to me. I will wait to see if anybody reports any good monitors in this price range. I am not especially picky, I just want a monitor that, at 19" is more enjoyable to use than the 9" I already have. I am not asking for comparable clarity, just reasonable legibility. The reason for this return: The contrast is so low that my eyes start watering after about fifteen minutes of use. The letters show up as gray on white. (Inverse video is easily legible, though) The brightness control ranges from slightly uncomfortably bright, to bright enough to cause the image to blur. (which is only a range of ~50%). There is no external contrast control. A brightness waviness with a period of 16 pixels is less important, but annoying. Reasons for previous returns: 1) Incomplete mounting hardware, munged faraday cage. 2) edge of screen folded under (as if flyback circuitry was weak) minor scratch in the middle of monitor face was contributing factor (they also shipped the wrong cable with this one.) 3) Even pixels were twice as bright as odd pixels, making screen text look as if it were (for instance) 12 point scaled to 11 point. (Or as if it were San Francisco font) Since this is the fourth try they've made in trying to ship me a good one, it was specially selected at the factory. The video board they sent me this time had more kludged parts (Resistors and capacitors soldered directly to the pins of the IC's, arching uninsulated past other pins so that they could easily be bent and short out) than the previous three (which had only a few kludged parts each), which may mean that they tried to adjust the circuitry for a better picture. My guess is that they had never heard of trimpots, and think that 1% resistors in critical places would be too expensive. On the other hand, a friend bought an Ehman directly from Ehman, and has had no problem with it. Bright, high-contrast image (except for a small amount of ringing after thick black lines). If I could be sure of getting a monitor like that, I would buy it. A side note, of the 5 monitors I've seen (the 4 shipments to me and my friend's) there were two brands of monitors. One is made by Zenith, and on the back it says "Made by Zenith for Megagraphics". The other is made by Hyundai. The Hyundai monitor gives a much sharper, darker image. I hope this is a help. I guess the best advice is to buy from a store, instead of mail-order, and have the store set up the particular monitor you are thinking of buying (including the video card) for you to look at. -- David Palmer palmer@gap.cco.caltech.edu ...rutgers!cit-vax!gap.cco.caltech.edu!palmer I have the power to cloud men's minds -- or at least my own. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 18:17:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gordon Maskew Fair, III" <gf07+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: CAD/CAM Systems Hello, I am looking for a CAD/CAM system with the following capabilities: - draw wireframe models of 3D objects - run on IBM PCs/Macintoshes/Workstations (any of these platforms is OK) - allow boolean subtraction/addition of solids - macros/scripting - libraries of objects - render (solidify) them relatively quickly (not totally necessary at the moment) If you know of any commercial/research software with these capabilities, or have comments about CAD systems that you have used, i would love to hear from you. Thank you in advance, Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 11:41:27 CEN From: Geoffrey Parsons <SGPARSON%WKYUVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Command line shell for mac > ...DA that enabled you to operate the Mac using a Unix-like command shell. Does anyone know the name of this DA? The DA you are looking for is called Ras-Nix. It is quite old and is not very powerful. It doesn't even support wildcards. I was so impressed I deleted it. I don't know if your search will be worth it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 21:54 EST From: LLEDUC%LAUVAX01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Crossword Puzzle Maker I am looking for a public domaine or commercial program which allows you to create and print crossword puzzles on the Mac. I've heard of Crossword Magic by Mindscape but I would like to have some feedback from users. Can anyone help me? Please direct mail directly to me. Thanks a lot. Leo G. Leduc Department of Biology Laurentian University SUDBURY, ONT CANADA P3E 2C6 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 1990 08:21:18 EDT From: Marvyn <ST401832@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: Endnote DA/Master Juggler conflict Info-Mac Digest V8 #168 Hi Anthony, I've never encountered any conflicts between Master Juggler 1.13 and Endnote 1.2.1 on an SE/30 under System 6.0.3. The problem may then lie in them working correctly under the latest version of the system. Try an earlier system version of the to see if that solves your problem (The SE/30 and IICX need at least system 6.0.3 and Finder 6.1 to run. System 6.0.5 is only needed if you're running an FX) Marvyn Steele St401832@brownvm.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 11:01:55 -0400 From: dave@slam.interlan.com (Dave Goldblatt) Subject: Ethernet cards > From: dick%arisia.ta52@lanl.gov (Dick Wiley (system)) > Subject: Ethernet Cards > The Interlan MacConnect NIA310 Ethernet card for the Mac works fine with > systems through 6.0.4, but if you are planning on installing A/UX 2.0 you > would be wise to choose another card. There is no A/UX driver for the > NIA310, and I understand that Racal does not plan to produce one for at least > six months. I'm not sure where you got that information, but I just checked with the driver manager, and was told that the driver has completed beta test and should be available in four to six _weeks_. Interested parties can call 1-800-LAN-TALK for information. Also, the MacConnect NIA310 works fine with all versions of System 6 (up through and including 6.0.6), and has been tested successfully with System 7 as well. This ain't product pushing, it's just I don't like misinformation. :-) -dg- -- "You can twist perceptions * Dave Goldblatt dave@interlan.com Reality won't budge..." * Diagnostic Engineering - Rush * Racal InterLan * Boxborough MA (508) 263-9929 ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 11 October 1990 6:26pm CST From: PSmith@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu Subject: Fonts and Documents Here is a question for the net: Is it possible to attach a font to a Word 4.0 document, so that the font will be available when the document is opened? I have some sources which say that this is possible using Font/DA Mover (holding down the option key while selecting the document so that it is drawn into Font/DA Mover). Problem is, everytime I try to get the doc. in, I get a message that the file is "damaged or busy" and that Font/DA Mover can't open it. Any suggestions? Pete Smith, PSMITH@UTXVM.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 00:31 PST From: <CONDOF%CLARGRAD.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: HyperCard & sound (fixing a sound's rate with SoundEdit) In Info-Mac 8 169, Drew <AL.Radtke%bradford.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes: >I have a sound which has been recorded at the wrong sampling >rate, and it is very hard for me to get it re sampled. I >have been trying to get Hypercard's "play" command to get it >to play at the right speed. I have a solution to this, and it involves using SoundEdit, which comes with the Farallon sound recorder. You need the software only to solve this. [Note: I'll capitalize references to menu commands.] In SoundEdit, open the resource containing your erroneous sound. Then, use the Recording Options command to set the recording rate to 22kHz, and create a New sound window. Select the entirety of the original sound, and Copy it. Then Close the original sound, and Paste into the new window. Click on the play button to hear what the sound sounds like. You are now going to use the Bender effect to correct the pitch of the sound. The pitch of the sound you just played will tell you which direction to alter the pitch. Select the entirety of the sound in the Untitled window. Select Bender. In the window, move both ends of the line to the same level (you want a FLAT line, "bending" the sound UNIFORMLY rather than at a varying rate). In any case, you want to move the line all the way up (if the sound played too low) or all the way down (if it played to high). Play the sound again to be sure it sounds right. When it does, Save As... a resource, replacing the original sound. In HyperCard, it should sound right when played. It should go without saying that you should have ample backups before doing this procedure. In particular, have Boomerang turned off while using SoundEdit. *.......... Fred Condo. Pro-Humanist BBS: 818/339-4704, 300/1200 bps INET: fredc@pro-humanist.cts.com BitNet: condof@clargrad matter: PO Box 2843, Covina, CA 91722 AOL: FredJC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 90 15:20:34 EDT From: walkere@turing.cs.rpi.edu (Ellen Walker) Subject: hypercard, NCSA telnet, biff crash: why? I have been having a series of mysterious crashes on my mac IIcx. I have been able to replicate the crash under the following condition: Running NCSA Telnet 2.3 & Hypercard 1.2.5 (also with previous version of 1.2) under multifinder. I have "biff on" on my UNIX machine. Hypercard is the top window. When mail comes in, the window scrolls up one line, but does not draw the first line of the mail message. The mac does not beep. At this point, the cursor still tracks with the mouse, but keys & menus are inoperative. (So I reboot...) I have also had a crash in the same situation except that the screensaver (After Dark) has kicked in. I have replicated the crash with no INITS or CDEVS other than the ones from Apple (general, sound, keyboard, etc.). Anyone know what is going on? If not, I would appreciate pointers to programs that I can get to either beep or redraw their windows in the background under multifinder, so I can determine whether NCSA telnet or Hypercard is the culprit. Thanks for any information you can give me, Ellen Walker RPI CS walkere@turing.cs.rpi.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 12:55:46 EDT From: jmoore@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Coup D'Etat) Subject: Hypercard 2.0? Has anyone actually seen Hypercard 2.0? If so, how and where do you get it? -Jeff Moore jmoore@occs.cs.oberlin.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 90 21:48 EST From: LLEDUC%LAUVAX01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V8 #116 Dear Jon Stewart, I highly recommend Typing Tutor IV. Good luck. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 11:25:18 EDT From: Charlie_Havekost%NIHDCRT.BITNET@cu.nih.gov Subject: Mac on Token Ring Date: 10-11-90 11:29am >From: Charlie Havekost:dcrt:nih To: {Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu}:internet cc: Charlie Havekost Subj: Mac on Token Ring ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the Token Ring here we've got lots of lowly PCs talking TCP/IP to the world for telnet and FTP. The question at hand is "Can the Mac participate too?" Are there any Token Ring TCP/IP packages for the Mac? More generally, does there exist a Mac-Token Ring community and what capabilities does a Mac on a Token Ring have -- is it limited to TokenTalk between Macs on the Ring? Is anyone running 3+Open with Macs on a Token Ring? Please send "Mac on Token Ring" info to me, and I'll summarize to the net. Charlie Havekost Internet: HAV@CU.NIH.GOV NIH Computer Center BITNET: Charlie_Havekost@NIHDCRT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 90 09:19:31 edt From: Rocky Olive <olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com> Subject: MacPaint/SuperPaint 2.0 formats Hi, y'all. I'm looking for documentation describing the image format of a MacPaint and/or SuperPaint format(s). I don't know much about this stuff, though (is it PICT, or is that something different?). I have worked a little bit converting gifs on a mainframe, so I do understand that format. I could also use a generic C routine for reading and interpreting such files, if anyone has it. I've got some b/w MacPaint files that I want to convert to another format, and I don't know anything about their format. Anything you've got will help. Thanks. ------------------------ ---------------------------------------- .Rockford L. Olive...... DG UNIX NET: olive@apxtg03 ..Data General Corp..... INTERNET: olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com ...Technology Drive.... AMERICA ONLINE: Rocky O ....Apex, NC 27502... PRODIGY: DSDG94A .....919/362-4800x5392.. COMPUSERVE: 72500,2345 ......919/362-4914 home. SCREAMNET: Yo, Rock! ------------------------ ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 23:10:20 CDT From: C277839%UMCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: MacPaint problems on appleshare Hi, netters. The director of the graphics lab here at the University of Missouri Journalism school is having problems with MacPaint v1.5. When users of the server try to copy a selection, there is some disk activity (these are all floppy based, 1 meg Pluses) and the dialog "MacPaint is having trouble writing the scrap" appears. What is the scrap and why might it be having trouble writing it. System 6.0.3 with just the Disinfectant init and GateKeeper Aid. The system disk has 137K free. All copies of MacPaint are on the server, a IIcx with a smallish 40meg drive. I believe the server has about 8 meg free. Suggestions, comments? Drop me a line. Thanks. Ian Sights c277839 at UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 90 12:53 GMT From: LAICHI.SPT@applelink.apple.com (Axis, Hector Rojas, Chile,ICC) Subject: Motif available for A/UX Regarding my earlier question about Motif being available for A/UX, specifically A/UX 2.0, I got a positive reply from Peter Lovell on AppleLink. Motif is available for A/UX 2.0 from Integrated Computer Systems 163 Havard Street Cambridge, MA 02139 Phone (617) 547-0510 Fax (617) 547-0758 Internet info@ics.com It comes on 8 floppies and includes OSF's manuals. -- Thomas Fruin Apple Chile AppleLink: LAICHI.SPT laichi.spt@applelink.apple.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 10:48:58 CDT From: ST5845%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: New Fractal Design Software Koyn Software has released IFS Explorer(TM), an educational and entertaining software package for the Macintosh that allows the user to create and explore fractals. The user may explore the Fractal Library(TM), a collection of over 60 premade fractals. IFS Explorer's powerful zoom function lets the user zoom in up to 100,000,000 times, allowing observation of the infinite detail in fractal images. The user may create new fractals using iterated function systems (IFS's for short). A fractal is described as a collection of pieces, each of which is a geometrically transformed copy of the original. A fractal description is entered in a spreadsheet-like window, where each row specifies a geometrical transformation for one of the pieces. Fractals are rendered by random iteration, a process involving starting with a point and repeatedly applying randomly chosen transformations to it. The variety of images that can be created by this apparently chaotic means is surprising. Fractal images may be exported to other applications via the clipboard or PICT files. The endless variety of images IFS Explorer produces are useful for advertising, stationery, and other graphic design projects. The educational user guide explains IFS's in an easy to understand way that is accessible to anyone who has had some experience in algebra and coordinate geometry. IFS Explorer is useful in college mathematics courses that cover fractals or chaos theory because it allows students to explore fractals by hands-on experimentation. It is also useful as a self-study aid to enthusiasts of fractals, chaos theory, and/or math. IFS Explorer requires a Macintosh 512KE or newer, an 800K floppy disk drive and System Software 4.1 or newer. IFS Explorer is available directly from Koyn Software for $49.95 plus $2.00 shipping & handling. There is a special introductory price of $39.95 (plus $2.00 S & H), which is 20% off, until December 31. Special discounts are available to universities and faculty. Koyn Software may be reached at: Koyn Software 1754 Sprucedale St. Louis, MO 63146 (314) 878-9125. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 09:08:38 EDT From: bkirsch@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (B. Kirsch) Subject: Plotting in Mathematica Sorry I couldn't mail directly to Tom P <TPRUSA@sbccvm> Send me your code, I'll take a look. Sounds like somethings wrong. Barry Kirsch MAIL: Naval Air Development Center Code 5051 Warminster PA, 18974-5000 PHONE: (215) 441-1886 ARPANET: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 12:03:27 From: rhz@po.cwru.edu (Robert H. Zakon) Subject: Programming - How to get EtherNet address? Now that the Ethernet people have been woken up by the recent messages on Ethernet cards, does anyone know how to acquire the Ethernet address of a card via a program. I am looking for source code which will give me the address. Thanks, Robert H. Zakon (from Rio, Brazil) Case Western Reserve U. Cleveland, OH Internet: rhz@po.cwru.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 17:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gordon Maskew Fair, III" <gf07+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Singleshare Version #? Hello, I was wondering if there was a newer version to SingleShare? The most recent version that I know of is .9b11 If you could give me any leads to the new version I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Gordon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 16:59:25 PST From: "Donald R. Proctor" <SPGDRP@uccvma.ucop.edu> Subject: Solutions to Imagewriter II Problems Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about the first line of text compressing on an Imagewriter II. From the volume of the responses I received it seems that many owners of Imagewriter IIs have had similar problems. The responses to my inquiry can be summarized as follows: 1. Live with it. 2. Hand feed each sheet. 3. Buy a cut sheet feeder. 4. Try using 20# paper (I do). 5. Put the paper under the table (I have). 6. Buy a DeskWriter. The bottom line is that there are an awful lot of dissatisfied Image- writer II owners out there, and there doesn't seem to be any real solution to the problem. I'm sure all those people who thought they just had a lemon would love to hear Apple's perspective on this. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 90 15:58:47 PST From: epwaterstraat@ucdavis.edu (System Manager, UCD Geology) Subject: Standard video (vcr) from Mac II This has probablt all been covered here before, but things seem to change so quickly these days. I'm looking for information/guidance on techniques/procedures for recording what's on the Mac screen to videotape. We have developed some programs that do simulations of Earth's magnetic field through time and would like to record the simulation on video tape. Hardware configurations that we have available include: Mac II Macintosh 8-bit video card Mac IIcx SuperMac Spectrum 8 / Series III color card Mac IIfx Macintosh 4-dot-8 display card I have heard that someone at Apple developed an INIT to change the output characteristics of the Macintosh 8-bit video board to be compatible with TV video, but this is just rumor. Please reply to me and I will summarize for the net if it seems appropriate. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Paul Waterstraat | Internet: epwaterstraat@ucdavis.edu o | Department of Geology | BITNET: epwaters@ucdavis _-\ _ | University of California | uucp: ucdavis!epwaterstraat (_)%(_) | Davis, CA 95616-8605 | Voice: (916) 752-7421 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 15:15:08 EDT From: horan@theory.tn.cornell.edu (Frederick Horan) Subject: surge protection I am trying to buy a Power Protection device but I have not found the right one. I do not want a standard surge protector that uses Metal Oxide Varistors (MOVs). I have heard from a number of sources that they can: 1. protect you against one surge only and then must be replaced; 2. protect you against one surge but then fail without letting you know they failed...; 3. protect you against a number of small surges but then fail without letting you know they failed. There has not been very much information that I can find on Surge Protectors. The latest discussion I could find was PC Magazine May 27, 1986. There may have been an article in PC Week but I have not found it. I have also looked through Byte, MacWorld and MacUser. I had found an advertisement for a product called Zero Surge but I do not have their address and/or phone number. The ad. provided a phone number but it was disconnected. What is interesting about his device is that it uses an inductor followed by a voltage limiting bridge followed by capacitors. No MOVs I have been in touch with TrippLite. They inform me that although they use MOVs, when their devices fail, the power is cut. Also, if the device fails within the 2 year warrenty, they will fix it for free. If I want to replace the MOVs later, there is (if I remember correctly) a $28 charge. I do not think that includes shipping. If anyone has any information about power protection devices, please send to me and I will summerize. Fred Horan horan@theory.tn.cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 90 10:29:13 EDT From: "Gregory E. Gilbert" <C0195%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: TinCan Documentation I have put together a rough draft of some TinCan documentation (with the consent of the author of TinCan). At this point I would like to have it "proofed". The documentation is divided in to three main categories: 1) a general discussion of "dial-up" procedures, 2) a discussion of basic features of TinCan, and 3) a discussion of more advanced features of TinCan. I have also included a glossary, references used in creating the documen- taion, and an index. I have included a brief discussion of dial-up procedures because at some point I feel users of TinCan will want to know what is involved in microcomputer communications. Also knowing what "goes on" will help users be better con- sumers of TinCan. If you are interested in proofing the documentation I have put together please contact me and I will forward you a copy. Be warned that at present "cover to cover" the documentation is 45 pages. Thanks much for your (potential) interest. Regards, Greg. Postal address: Gregory E. Gilbert Computer Services Division University of South Carolina Columbia, South Carolina USA 29208 (803) 777-6015 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 19:35:32 EST From: Antonio Bellver <BELLVER%EVALUN11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Translate resources Does anybody know how to translate an ICN# (or ICON) resource into a PICT resource? I want to make a couple of pictures containig the shapes from some icons. Thanks in advance. Antonio Bellver. C.U.C. E-mail (EARN/BITNET): BELLVER@EVALUN11 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 20:26:02 CST From: Greg Wimpey <GWIMPEY%TRINITY.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Troff to Mac converters I've seen the MacWrite to troff converter package in the archives, but is there a program available that will convert troff to a Mac format (i.e. Word, MacWrite, or WriteNow)? Respond directly to me, and I will summarize to the net. Thanks. Greg Wimpey <GWIMPEY@TRINITY.BITNET> Student, Class of '91 (finally!) Trinity University, San Antonio, TX USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 09:22:55 GMT From: adobe!uunet!f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org!CSDS.RURES@labrea.stanford.edu (CSDS RURES) Subject: Warm boot key sequence A simple question from an IBM-PC turned Mac programmer: What is the warm boot key sequence on the MAC SE/30? David Sewry Dept of Computer Science Rhodes University P.O. Box 94 Grahamstown, 6140 South Africa email: csds.rures@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org tel.no.: +27 461 22023 ext 297 -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!5!494!4!CSDS.RURES Internet: CSDS.RURES@f4.n494.z5.fidonet.org ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************