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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 2 Nov 90 Volume 8 : Issue 180 Today's Topics: .Z Files About Temperament 2 analog-digital software & I give up! APPLE OPENS NEW TOLL-FREE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE LINE Changing SCSI ID on Quantum ProDrive Comm Toolbox Cooperating Macs & PCs at home Drive light INIT for internals Hypercard locks, Pascal blanks IIci & KanjiTalk 6.0 & Hanzi 4.3 Large scale text analysis Looking for PostScript Printer Test Page Murph's VAPORWARE Column for November 1990 Need info on digitizing tablet hard- & software IM8(176) PostScript Previewer for the Mac? Print Spooler for HP Deskwriter SE/30 board box? Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 09:00:30 MST From: Steve Shankman <SHANKMAS%ARIZVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: .Z Files Can someone explain these .Z files? How do I decompress them? I have quite a few of them but don't know what to do at all. Any help would be appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 10:06:16 -0500 From: William G. Innanen <wgi@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu> Subject: About Temperament 2 Info-mac, A while ago I ftp-ed a copy of John Rotenstein's excellent little CDEV "Temperament 2" (archived as "temperament-2.hqx"). Shortly thereafter I had occasion to rebuild my desktop. Much to my surprise I found that all of my "Microsoft Word 4" files had become "About Temperament 2" files in the directory listings, and a double click on such a file gave the infamous "application missing or busy" dialog (monolog?) box. A bit of checking (with some unexpected interruptions >From Gatekeeper Aid) revealed that the "About Temperament 2" file (type MSWD) had the entire resource fork of the CDEV attached! This is what had confused the desktop! A bit of careful fiddling with the desktop file in ResEdit fixed the problem, but this probably would really perplex someone who didn't know what to look for or do about it if found. I suggest that someone replace the "temperament-2.hqx" archive with one that has a more normal about file. Bill Innanen wgi@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 01:19:35 EST From: Chris Jones <UOG00162%VM.UoGuelph.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: analog-digital software & I give up! As to some very friendly software for this purpose, I suggest Labview Software. I don't know if you're familiar, so I'll describe a bit: It lets you essentially *design* your own instruments. the end result looks li ke any other instrumental panel, escept the graphs/dials/indicators/whatever ar e whatever you code them to be. the whole thing is built from little modules, that you "wire" together inside. rather than being gimmicky, as I know it must sound, it really comes accross as a rather effective programming language. an other plus is that you aren't limited to the modules than come included, you ca n program your own, in think c or pascal, bmw, and one or two more. if you are further interested, I will get some pertinent addresses for you, and/or phone numbers. next: I give up. even the garrentied risk of sounding like a fool doesn't mat ter: where or what or how do I find whatever it is for de - .hqx'ing files! I can't take it any more. I looked and looked, so that I could avoid this. so meone, anyone please! pity! tell me, let me in on this (I haven't been llokin g much on ftp sites before this for mac software, and thus am still in the dark ) Yours, Chris Jones (the humiliated) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 1990 14:02:45 CST From: Werner Uhrig <werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu> Subject: APPLE OPENS NEW TOLL-FREE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE LINE [ just when I felt certain that no press release would ever deserve posting here .... along comes this!!! ] This press release was posted to AppleLink this morning... MOVED OVER BUSINESS WIRE AT 9:33 AM, PST, MONDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1990. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Glenn Helton Regis McKenna, Inc. (415) 354-4425 or Christopher Escher Apple Computer, Inc. (408) 974-2202 APPLE OPENS NEW TOLL-FREE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE LINE FOR HANDLING SALES QUESTIONS AND USER CONCERNS CUPERTINO, California, October 29, 1990 -- Apple Computer has created the Customer Assistance Center, a new toll-free customer relations telephone line. The Customer Assistance Center opens today and will be available Monday through Friday from 6 a.m. to 5 p.m. Pacific time by dialing 1-800-776-2333. All Apple customers are eligible to use the service. The new toll-free line is not designed to be a technical support hotline, but instead is an extension to the comprehensive Apple customer relations effort. The Customer Assistance Center is a backup system to the many existing forms of customer support and service already available from Apple resellers and others. In the U.S., Apple sells and provides support through a network of authorized Apple dealers, higher education sales consultants, on-campus support centers, user groups, systems integrators and consultants. "Apple doesn't want to circumvent the reseller relationship with the customer," said Jackie Whiting, Apple Assistance Center manager. The Customer Assistance Center can answer questions about Apple sales programs and policies. Owners of Apple products should call the Customer Assistance Center when they believe their problems or concerns are not being adequately addressed by Apple resellers or by regularly designated support or service providers. When customers call the toll-free number to discuss a sales or support concern, they should be prepared to provide basic information including a description of the problem, a list of products being used, support sources previously contacted and the outcome of the contact. "The Customer Assistance Center will provide an important feedback loop for Apple, enabling us to enlarge our knowledge base and speed our responses to customer concerns. We also want customers to understand that Apple stands behind its sales, service and support infrastructure. We want to address all individual complaints and concerns effectively," said Morris Taradalsky, Apple Customer Support Products and Services vice president. The Customer Assistance Center includes individuals with Apple product knowledge and diverse business and computer experience. This team is backed by a state-of-the-art call tracking system which will ultimately drive a report system designed to give Apple resellers fast, detailed feedback on customer concerns. Apple Computer, Inc., founded in 1977 and headquartered in Cupertino, California, designed and manufactures a broad line of personal computing products. It has sold more than 7 million personal computers, more than 2 million printers and hundreds of thousands of networks. -30- Apple, the Apple logo and Macintosh are registered trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc. END Apple Press Releases PR Express ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 1990 20:26 CDT From: Frank Wu <IFRA%UMINN1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Changing SCSI ID on Quantum ProDrive I recently replace my internal hard disk in my Mac II with a 120M hard drive. Now, I would like to turn my smaller Quantum 40M ProDrive into a external hard disk. I have the drive installed in a Jasmine drive case that I purchased from M.A.C of Berkeley, CA. The Jasmine case comes with a external SCSI ID switch. I would like to know were I can plug this switch. If this in not possible, how do I change the SCSI ID? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 8:37:41 EST From: marc@rainbow.mitre.org (Marc Friedman) Subject: Comm Toolbox Hello fello netters, Does anyone know where I can get a hold of the Communications Toolbox for use in such applications as Mac X? Thanks Much. -- * Marc Friedman * The Mitre Corporation * 7525 Colshire Drive * McLean, VA 22102 * M/S W291 * (703) 883-5247 * E-mail: marc@mitre.org ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 11:06:48 EST From: Tad Taylor <taylor@cli.com> Subject: Cooperating Macs & PCs at home I have two questions on how to effectively share resources between a Mac + and a PC in a home environment. The situation is that a friend has a Mac + with a 60 MB hard disk and will shortly be getting a new PC with a large (> 300 MB) hard disk and tape backup. The questions: 1. If he gets an appletalk card for the PC, can the Mac's hard disk be backed up on the PC's tape drive? What's the best means of doing this? It doesn't really matter if the back up is relatively slow. 2. How easy is it for the Mac and PC to share a good, cheap laser printer? What's the best mechanism/printer for doing this? Thanks for your consideration. Tad Taylor (taylor@cli.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 12:22:39 EST From: robert wilson <RWILSON%UTCVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Drive light INIT for internals Apple doesn't allow the user to see the drive indicator light on internal hard drives. Is there an init which places a light icon in the menu bar that turns on when there is disk activity? If not how hard would it be write? { rwilson@utcvm /* BITNET */ st0151@applelink.apple.com /* AppleLink */ } ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 15:52 EST From: Rashi <KMR91%GENESEO.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Hypercard locks, Pascal blanks 1] Hypercard - Does anyone know of a way to have hypercard lock the external files that it creates. Reason : an astromony class uses hypercard for a lab, the results of their calculations are written into a folder on a server. The world must have read and write access to this folder for hypercard to write to it. A student was playing and trashed the folder. All results, grades, were lost. A simple solution would be to have hypercard lock the text file after it writes it. Thus giving an alert if someone tries to trash it. Any suggestions? 2] Pascal - Spreadsheet Revisited. Using LSP 2.03, I have a 2-D array of real. Is there a way I can represent a blank in the array, or some value that is not a number ? I need to look at this value in an if statement to decide weather to do calculations. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 18:21 +0800 From: DTPALMER%HKUCC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: IIci & KanjiTalk 6.0 & Hanzi 4.3 I just got a IIci and am pleased. I am extremely unpleased to find out that my Japanese and Chinese systems that were fine on my SE/30 no longer work. Any suggestions would be extremely welcome. thank you David Palmer University of Hong Kong dtpalmer@hkucc.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 13:57 EST From: George Nassas <GEORGE%LAUVAX01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Large scale text analysis Hi Netland! A researcher at our site has come into > 100,000 pages of text that she would like to analyze. Without reading and digesting every single word we would like to be able to characterize the general flow of the content and then zero in on specific passages that relate to concepts that interest us. My question is, what software is available that will assist in such a task? Either commercial or PD is welcome. We are aware of the (excellent) stack Texas and the successors released by Mark Zimmerman and have used those in the past. But, we're wondering how it'll do when fed 20 megs of text so we're curious to know what other tools are available. Oh, I should say that this has to run on a Mac Plus. Our funds allow a large hard drive and a RAM upgrade but no new CPU. Our feed for Info-Mac is a little spotty so please reply directly to me and I'll summarize to the net should anything turn up. - George Nassas Laurentian University ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 23:04:14 EST From: Stuart West <STU%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Looking for PostScript Printer Test Page Has anyone got the MacUser PostScript Printer Test page? It was mentioned when they did their review of PostScript printers, and apparently is available on CompuServe (which I haven't got access to). It includes grey scales, scanned images, point-size charts, and other goodies. Any similar test page would be appreciated..... Thanks. ========================================================================= | Stuart C. West InterNet: stu@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu | | Yale University QuickMail: Stuart_West@quickmail.ycc.yale.edu | | New Haven, Connecticut America Online: Stu West, Benno, Eli Yale | | Freedom of the Press belongs to whose who own one. | ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1990 22:04:30 EST From: Murph Sewall <Sewall%UConnVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Murph's VAPORWARE Column for November 1990 VAPORWARE Murphy Sewall From the November 1990 APPLE PULP H.U.G.E. Apple Club (E. Hartford) News Letter $15/year U.S. - $18/year Canadian P.O. Box 18027 East Hartford, CT 06118 Call the "Bit Bucket" (203) 569-8739 Permission granted to copy with the above citation "We will learn to walk and chew gum" - Michael Spindler, chief operating officer, Apple Computer. The Latest Word. A little known research and development company has announced a major breakthrough in speech recognition software. Emerson & Stern's "Soliloquy" uses a method based on the way the human vocal tract produces spoken words. With this new approach, Soliloquy can recognize voices of children and people with accents or colds. The method is CPU and RAM intensive, and Emerson & Stern recommend the minimum processor should be a 68040 running at 25 MHz. The demonstration code is in the form of C routines written for the Macintosh. On a Macintosh IIci the software has a vocabulary of about 200 words. Experts say that a vocabulary of 1,000 words would be sufficient for 95 percent of most people's everyday conversation and 2,000 words would be adequate for 99 percent of ordinary conversation. Soliloquy offers a real possibility of conversing naturally with computers within a few years. - PC Week 1 October 128 Mbyte 3.5 inch Drive. Most Inc., a subsidiary of Nakamichi Peripherals, will market a $2,500 magnito-optical disk drive sometime during the Winter. The rewritable 3.5 inch media is expected to sell for about $128. The drive's average seek time is 35 milliseconds and average data access time is 47 milliseconds. The drive will be fully compatible with the emerging ANSI standard and future versions are planed with a capacity of up to 512 Mbytes. - InfoWorld 24 September True "Notebook" Computing. NCR will bring a four pound pen-based notebook PC to Fall Comdex for private showings. The pen-based system promises to automate such paper intensive tasks as field data collection and inventory management. NCR's active digitizer is said to be more "paperlike" than the glass surface used by the Grid pen-based system. If NCR decides to put their "Handwriter" into production, it should be shipping by Spring Comdex. - PC Week 8 October Flash Cards. Volume quantities of Intel's one and four Mbyte non-volatile Flash Memory IC cards should be shipping by Christmas. The cards can revise and store applications and sequential files. At present, the cards cannot rewrite data at the file level (one file per card; revising requires rewriting the entire file). The cards should be a boon to laptop users; no battery backup is required for code retention. - InfoWorld 8 October Apple II Compatibility. The "no compromises" Apple II card for the Macintosh promised by John Sculley appears to represent a substantial compromise. The under $200 NuBus board has been announced as an Apple //e card which will not support recent Apple IIgs applications. The card isn't expected to ship until next March and will have a connector on the back for a 5.25 inch disk drive. - PC Week 1 October 50 MHz i486. Intel expects volume production of the 50 MHz version of the i486 CPU sometime in the second quarter of 1991. The speedy processor will be offered in a highly integrated module that will include an internal 256K static RAM cache with a cache controller. Performance is expected to exceed that of the 33 MHz version of the i486 by as much as 50 percent. Anticipated prices for most 50 MHz i486 systems are expected to be in the $8,000 range. - PC Week 1 October Don't PS/1 It! In a letter to corporate customers, IBM has indicated it will void the warranty on any PS/1 with a Token Ring board installed (IBM alleges the PS/1 is only a home computer). - InfoWorld 24 September and PC Week 8 October All 386 PS/2's. The 80286-based PS/2 Model 30 will soon be replaced by the Model 40SX with a 80386SX CPU. This model will continue to be distinguished by an AT (not Micro Channel) bus. - PC Week 24 September and InfoWorld 1 October New Windows. An upgrade to Microsoft Windows 3.0 may ship during the first half next year (recall that this product, first announced in 1984, helped to popularize the term "vaporware"). Windows 3.1 will feature True Type scalable fonts, but difficulty developing this technology have been reported. Version 3.1 will also have shell improvements, greater network support, and "richer imaging." Chairman Bill Gates predicts more than 1,500 applications developed for Window's graphic environment by next year. - PC Week 1 October and InfoWorld 8 October Macintosh System 7 Delayed Again (What Else is New?). The good news is that System has gone from alpha to beta. The bad news is that beta testing typically takes six months. Apple has announced another postponement of the product until "the first half of next year." It appears the product will miss it's originally planned shipping date (last summer) by about a year. - PC Week and InfoWorld 24 September Windows Under OS/2 OS/2 eventually will run Windows applications code without modification using a binary compatibility layer to map Window's into Presentation Manager. The extra layer of software will cause some loss of performance. OS/2 version 3 will be designed to run Windows applications directly from OS/2 without performance degradation (which raises the question - is PM necessary?). Microsoft chairman, Bill Gates, also says that the plan is to include both Adobe Type Manager and True Type in OS/2. Also in the works is "portable" OS/2 (also known as OS/2 "New Technology") which will be designed to port to multiple processors including Motorola 68000 and 88000 families (OS/2 on a Mac?). - InfoWorld 1 October DOS 5.0. The latest beta version of Microsoft's DOS 5.0 includes task switching similar to the capability provided by SoftLogic Solutions' Carrousel. Microsoft is expected to release DOS 5.0 by the middle of 1991. - PC Week 24 September Productive Pricing. Microsoft is said to be offering Project for Windows for $99 at Windows 3.0 seminars. However, at Engineering Productivity Seminars, Microsoft asks $199 for the same software. - PC Week 8 October Full UNIX System V, Release 4 Implementation. While the mainframes and minis are still waiting for AT&T's UNIX V.4, freshman at Virginia Tech are busy running this latest release on their UNIX system of choice -- the Amiga 3000! - InfoWorld 8 October Look Ma, No Windows. Microsoft Word 5.5 for MS-DOS will feature pull-down menus similar to the interface used in Word for Windows. The choices will be represented in text, not graphics. The upgrade will be announced this month and ship by the end of the year - PC Week 15 October Need Persuasion? Aldus will release it's $595 Persuasion 2.0 for Windows by the end of the year. It will be bundled with Adobe Type Manager. - PC Week 15 October Delivery Postponed. Oracle has previewed version 7.0 of their fully distributed, portable relational-database management system at the company's annual user conference but also pushed back release until next year. - PC Week 1 October SAS for NeXT. SAS Institute plans to port its entire line of decision support and data analysis applications to the new Motorola 68040-based NeXT system. SAS/Insight which is not yet available on the PC platform will be available on the NeXT workstation. SAS/Insight is a data analysis program which provides three dimensional charting tools and permits users to analyze data graphically. - PC Week 17 September SPARCs Are Flying. Opus Systems and CompuAdd both plan to announce new Sun SPARC compatible systems. Look for demonstrations at Comdex. - PC Week 15 October Poqet Clone. Toshiba will show a one-pound, palmtop PC code-named the PC Companion at Comdex. The computer bears a marked resemblance to the similar sized Poqet. - PC Week 1 October HyperActive. The new HyperCard 2.0 for the Macintosh may not be announced officially until mid-November, but user groups received copies of the disks during the first week of October. Maybe printing the documentation is taking an extra six weeks? - I have the disks but not the docs Bailouts (Forever Vaporware). Borland International will not develop any more versions of its Sprint word processor. Applications technical support manager Mark Williams says the firm will devote their resources to their core Paradox, Quattro, and language products. Banyan Systems is cancelling development of network server hardware and will focus attention on its VINES networking software. - PC Week 15 October -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (####) (#######) (#########) (#########) __&__ (#########) / \ (#########) |\/\/\/| /\ /\ /\ /\ | | (#########) | | | v \/ \---. .----/ \----. | (o)(o) (o)(o)(##) | | \_ / \ / c .---_) ,_c (##) | (o)(o) (o)(o) <__. .--\ (o)(o) /__. | |.___| /____, (##) c _) _c / \ () / | \__/ \ (#) | ,___| /____, ) \ > (c_) < /_____\ | | | / \ /----' /___\____/___\ /_____/ \ oooooo /____\ ooooo /| |\ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 OCT 90 08:04:12 PDT From: <MICRO2.KLOPP@crvax.sri.com> Subject: Need info on digitizing tablet hard- & software IM8(176) In Info-Mac V8 No. 176, I requested info on big digitizing tablets and software to extract coordinates. Here are the replies: ____________________________________________________________________________ | | >Subject: Need info on digitizing tablet hard- & software >Does anyone have leanings one way or another toward Calcomp vs. Summagraphics >for large digitizing tablets (>=18" x >=24") for the Mac? We have to replace >our antique Tektronix (really a Summagraphics). >Does anyone know of software that would let us trace and digitize graphs into >a file of coordinate points? I've looked at a shareware program called >DigiGraf, but it's a bit rough around the edges. Is there such a feature >built into Kaleidagraph, Igor, or similar. How about one of the CAD >packages? Is there a market for this kind of thing? I believe Brainpower of Agoura, CA, at least once marketed an application which would read a PICT file (and possibly also MacPaint and TIFF) and convert a line graph to X/Y coordinate points. MacWeek reviewed this some time ago, and said it basically worked, with some rough edges. Unfortunately, I don't have Brainpower's number at hand (here at home), but if you can't find it any other way, let me know and I'll try to locate it for you. They marketed Abacus' original StatView program, so their ads should litter old Mac mags :-), although I suspect calling Directory Information might be quicker. Good luck! Aron Aron Roberts Workstation Support Services . 219 Evans Hall University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720 aron@garnet.berkeley.edu . ucbvax!garnet!aron aron@ucbgarne.bitnet . (415) 642-5974 Subject: pads If you want a really cool super-huge pad, check out Wacom. I don't know if they sell Mac software, or perhaps it can emulate one of the other pads. Another guy in my lab has been using it on a unix workstation, and it's pretty cool. Subj: digitizing on the Mac I use FlexiGraph to digitize graphs on the Mac (using the mouse) that I have scanned in with a scanner. FlexiGraph is currently being improved and the digitizing feature is being enhanced. Still at $149 (ComputerWare) it is already worth the price, if you have a scanner. Subj: Tablets We have a Summagraphics tablet (MacTablet -- I think it's out of date by now), with which we're extremely happy. We use it mostly to digitize measurements made through a microscope. I have a program a buddy wrote called "fromplot" that creates a file of points from the tablet. Frankly I haven't used it, but I know that it comes from a program written by an excellent programmer. I think it's in basic. It's definitely a hack, but if you don't run across anything else let me know. I have IGOR, but I just got it and haven't had time to see if it has this feature. If it does, it would be in one of the custom XOP's they provide. Wavemetrics is reachable on the net as WaveMetrics@AppleLink.Apple.Com, and they've been quite responsive via EMail. -Bill Williams I have been using an application called FlexiGraphs [TreeStar, Inc., 1802 Hillside road, Santa Barbara, CA 93101 (805)682-4096] to digitize (using the mouse) graphs that are scanned in using a scanner. FlexiGraphs ($149 @ ComputerWare) was originally aimed at the business graphics market with the ability to digitize scanned images a quickie add hacque (according to the author). The product is current being revised and upgraded to aim more at scientific and engineering graphics with an improvement in the digitizing feature; the developer found more technical types bought the product for the digitizing than did business types for the graphing. I think this is a better solution than a digitizing tablet, because you can also use a scanner for other tasks, but digitizing tablets are pretty dedicated pieces of hardware. --Len Schwer micro2.schwer@sri.com |___________________________________________________________________________| I thank you all for your replies! Rich Klopp MICRO2.KLOPP@crvax.sri.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 90 17:25:49 EDT From: bryant@math.duke.edu (Robt Bryant) Subject: PostScript Previewer for the Mac? Dear Folks: I am not sure that you are the right folks to ask this, but here goes. I am trying to get a PostScript Previewer which will run on my Mac II and my SE/30. I don't know if there is a freeware or shareware program available, but I couldn't find it in your files. I am even willing to pay real money for such a thing if it is not available as freeware or shareware. Can you tell me where I could find a PostScript Previewer, or, failing that, who could tell me whether such a program exists? Thanks, Robert Bryant bryant@math.duke.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 90 15:47:08 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Adam Levene <nl0c+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Print Spooler for HP Deskwriter Does anyone know of a print spooler for the HP Deskwriter that is in the public domain or shareware. The only spooler of which I am aware is SuperLaserSpool, and I am hesitant to put out the money for it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Responses can be sent to nl0c+@andrew.cmu.edu. Thank you for any help! Neal ------------------------------ Date: TUE OCT 30, 1990 19.35.39 EST From: "Kimberly J. Rose" <kjr0@lehigh> Subject: SE/30 board box? Maybe this question has been asked before: Is there a box one can obtain to provide additional expansion slots for an SE/30? Please respond to CSQ0@lehigh.bitnet instead of to me. Thanks. ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************