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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 6 Nov 90 Volume 8 : Issue 181
Today's Topics:
Advice on making color slides needed
AppleShare on Ethernet
A programming question regarding INITs
Authorware (2 msgs)
AutoBlack (AKA MacsBug)
Choose-User
customer database
File transfert
FKEY Query: Shredder
HP LaserWriter
HyperCard 1.2.5 woes
Hypercard 2.0 and Netnews Reader...
Mac IIsi and Excel 3.0
MAC IIsi questions re expansion and SIMM
Need: styled Text Edit programming help
RAM Disk and Print Servers
Russian, Polish fonts
Seattle font appears in the LaserWriter
SPAMM?
strange database needs
Survey: Grammar Checkers
The Mac Classic
Think C 4.0 worth it?
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 18:09:02 GMT
From: bowler@athena.mit.edu (albert smith)
Subject: Advice on making color slides needed
I would like to be able to make color slides from a Adobe Illustrator 88
v1.9.5 files. Our current set up is a Mac IIcx and a Montage FR1 film
recorder. The software to drive the film recorder is ImageQ v3.0
(Provided by Monatge).
How do Imake a color slides using this setup? Or more specifically what
else do I need? Or will it not really possible with this setup? (i.e.
Do I have the wrong film recorder?) The documentation that came with
the says that Illustrator files will come out as bitmapped black and
white files. (I have not tested this myself.) I would like to be able
to create color slides.
Thank you in advance for your help.
albert smith
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albert smith, bowler@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Wednesday, 31 Oct 1990 15:28:57 EST
From: m20011@mwvm.mitre.org (Anup Patel)
Subject: AppleShare on Ethernet
We are considering using a Mac IIcx as an AppleShare server in a small Ethernet
(about 5 Macs and 1 server) network. Will the the ethernet'd Macs be able to
see the Mac IIcx server? I'm not sure if I need a bridge between the Ethernet
segment and the server.
Can the server also be on ethernet?
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 16:56 PST
From: SHARON YODER <YODER@oregon.uoregon.edu>
Subject: A programming question regarding INITs
I apologize if this has been asked befor{. If it has, please just
direct me to when and where it has been answered.
My question is fairly simple: I'm contemplating writing an INIT, but
I can not find *any* documentation about how to write an INIT that
will start up, and then do periodic things in the background.
The sample code I've seen shows how to write an INIT that will start up,
do it's work, and then die, (and thus allow the system to continue), but
I've seen nothing about becomming a permanent resident during that Mac
session.
Thank you for any pointers (or handles!) that you can offer.
\david burrowes
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 09:32:26 EST
From: Garrett Fitzgerald <AP019001@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Authorware
>>I'm interested in anyone's opinion of/experiences with Authorware Academic,
>>especially in comparison with Hypercard.
I took a class last year in which we used Authorware Professional (I think
the difference is that video and movie-type animation are supported) to create
educational software for local high schools. I was able to write a program
in Authorware to convert between Mayan, Egyptian, Roman, and Arabic number
systems without _too_ much trouble. With the help of some scanned-in David
Macauley drawings, we created a tutorial that got some interest beyond the
class for which we designed it. Not much, I admit, but some.... :-) I can't
compare it to Hypercard--I've never programmed in it and infrequently used it.
Some other things we did in the tutorial:
Allowed the student to build the Roman number XXIV by dragging down the
numerals, and gave substantial feedback at each stage
Allowed the student to rearrange the Egyptian numbers on the screen to point
out that it was the same number, no matter what order
Quizzed the student on numbers in the various systems, and gave them feedback
corresponding to how close they were: For example, if they answered 26
when asked what XXIV was, we could point out that that was close and
explain what the problem with the answer was.
>I have the Authorware Academic package and am impressed. The
>documentation is the best I have ever seen. You would think that
>a PhD in Education wrote it (I understand that 3 did).
The only problem is, it gets repetitive when it explains how to do things
in two different locations. I don't think I had any questions I couldn't figure
out from the documentation eventually, except when it came time to bundle it.
It wasn't quite clear that part of the program had to be bundled with the
RunCOA module if you didn't have a copy handy. (If the program hadn't had so
many graphics in it, we might have kept it smaller than 800K :-)
>In contrast to Hypercard, it is easy to see were you are as you write
>the program ("write" and "program" are loosely used).
You draw a map showing the flow of control. This was hard for me to deal with,
at first. To construct what I wanted to be an IF-THEN-ELSE statement, I had to
nest decision icons about 9 deep.
>
>Authorware can do a lot and many
>capabilities mean more things to learn. While the manuals are
>great for teaching how to do it, you need time to put it all
>together. I'm still working at it but could probably learn most
>in a week of concentrated effort (who has a week to spare B-) )
Ditto :-)
This was a very interesting course, btw--the professor almost never lectured.
Instead we had lots of guest speakers--Ted Sizer, of the Coalition for
Essential Schools, and several people involved with software development. We
also had a field trip to the MIT Media Lab, to hear about the LEGO-LOGO
project. Interesting stuff....
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"But oh! If they would only make some sound/Or wear a face where faces should
be found!" -- H.P. Lovecraft
Sarek of Vulcan
a.k.a. Garrett Fitzgerald
ap019001@brownvm.brown.edu
pangea@brownvm.brown.edu
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 08:57:56 PST
From: RICK_MCCORMACK@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: Authorware
I also like Authorware. But as already stated, the complex relations available
thru the software mean a lot of work to get a good understanding of the possibil
ities. Might i recommend a simple way to get going quickly? We found that
detailed study of the EXAMPLES section of Authorwares CD-ROM gave us some
terrific ideas, and a very clear idea of how to assemble some very
sophisticated effects.
Good luck, and have a neat time.
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 16:07 EST
From: Thomas R. Blake <TBLAKE%BINGVAXA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: AutoBlack (AKA MacsBug)
Folks,
Does anyone know the *official* status of AutoBlack, (commonly known as
MacsBug), found in the Info-Mac archives? Is this puppy public domain?
Freeware? Shareware? I need a screen saver to put out on a bunch of our SE's,
and I am (unfortunately) looking for something in the 0$ - 0$ price range.
Tom Blake
SUNY-Binghamton
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 18:36:27 PST
From: sulistio@sutro.sfsu.edu (Sulistio Muljadi)
Subject: Choose-User
Hi,
Could some one tell me where I can get Chooser-User?
Is it freeware or shareware or commercial?
Thank you.
Mul
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 11:31:16 EST
From: Francis Taylor <narf@media-lab.media.mit.edu>
Subject: customer database
Hi. I work at a small company that has a *lot* of customers. We need
to keep track of sales and customer support telephone conversations.
We have several salesmen and support people, all with Macintoshes.
Ideally we'd like a centralized database that we can all access on our
Appleshare server, so one can see all contacts with a particular
customer. CAT has promised the world, but they can't deliver; no
multi-user support. Has anybody out there had any successful
experiences with this sort of thing? Please don't quote me
advertising copy. As far as I'm concerned, it's all vapor. Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 90 15:17:31 HNE
From: Carlos Reed <CLRPFSE%LAVALVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: File transfert
Hi nets!
Does anybody has transfered files from an Old word procesing Machine to
a Mac?
We have this extraterrestrial Word procesing Machine AES 7300 that
uses 5 1/4 floppydisks.
We just want to import the text to a text file for the Macs.
Any tips, Any experiences wold be very apreciated
Carlos Reed From beautiful and lovely Quebec
Cheers
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 90 10:50:45 est
From: Bruce Kahn <bkahn@archive.webo.dg.com>
Subject: FKEY Query: Shredder
A while back I ran across an FKEY called "The Shredder" that would make
the current window look as if you had torn off part of the window (much
like how you tear off the bottom part of a piece of paper on a pad). I
had it running for a while (much to the chagrin of my co-workers) but
lost it when we were recovering from a virus infection (they reinstalled
the entire system, wiping out my FKEY). I neglected to keep a copy but
cant find a replacement anywhere. Would some kind soul please tell me
where I may find a replacement? Thanks.
Bruce (bkahn@archive.webo.dg.com or
kahn@adam.dg.com)
Standard disclaimers apply, except where prohibited by law...
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 90 13:53:26 -0500
From: bobw@gdstech.grumman.com (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: HP LaserWriter
We will be purchasing a new laser printer for our appletalk network.
Our network has both Macs and PC's. Does any one have any good or bad
experineces with the HP (or other) alternatives to the the Apple laser writer.
Thanks in advance!
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 10:33:52 EST
From: "Craig R. Lee" <craig@mako.stat.ufl.edu>
Subject: HyperCard 1.2.5 woes
Hey there,
I recently ran into a problem with HyperCard crashing while using an
address-book stack that I modified from one of the examples. When I try to
access certain cards, I get an alert with "Can't read card or background id
31724 at location 5112" followed by HyperCard exiting. Any ideas as to the
cause or remedy? The two particular cards I notice this behavior on are both
near the bottom of the stack and both have a scrolling text field that is
fuller than any other cards in the stack (the stack is used to keep track of
referees of journal articles). This behavior happens when I try to either
"find" a char string on one of these cards or when I try to sort the stack.
Reply to me or to the digest, I read both often.
Craig R. Lee
Department of Statistics
University of Florida
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 10:02:48 EST
From: Jason <jblue@mwunix.mitre.org>
Subject: Hypercard 2.0 and Netnews Reader...
'elo Net,
Recently I received a copy of HyperCard 2.0. With much enthusiasm and
theatrics (The Grouch), I installed it and trashed HyperCard 1.2.5.
I had to use the Convert Stack option for my current stacks, which was easy
and uneventful. All the stacks seem to work fine under 2.0, except for
the netnews reader stack:
1. When marking a message/group/subject as unread, getting error "Expected
end of line after 'end if'."
2. When quiting the stack getting error "Can't understand arguments of
'CautionAlert'."
Since HyperCard 2.0 does not give me scripting privileges, I can't even take
a look at the script to see what is wrong. Has any one else had these
problems, and has found a fix?
Is there perhaps a newer version of netnews reader for HyperCard 2.0?
Thank you for your responses in advance!
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* Jason D. Blue = User Services *
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Disclaimer: The views expressed above are my own and do not reflect the
position of my employer.
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Date: Thu, 01 Nov 90 09:11:35 EST
From: Rob Szarek <413077%UOTTAWA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Mac IIsi and Excel 3.0
Hi folks,
At work, we received a "test" Mac IIsi. It's an actual production unit.
Anyways, it's quite smaller than I thought, not much more larger than
a zero-footprint hard disk under an SE.
The point I'm getting at here is that some software won't work with IIsi
at thispoint in time. I could not get Excel 2.2 and PixelPaint pro to
work. From the rumors, I hear that Microsoft is working on Excel 3.0.
I hope it's available soon since I'd like to see how much faster
the program would work with a FPU chip installed.
Excel 3.0 is supposed to fix this problem as well as add a lot of
features available in Wingz and in Full Impact. I guess Mr. Gates
is feeling some heat ? Also how about sticking to the Mac
guidelines this time, so when a new Mac comes out ( like the SE/40
or the Tower Mac ) then your program will still work. BTW Excel 3.0
should be out when system 7.0 comes around. For now Microsoft will
probably issue a maintenance release like 2.2c ? or 2.3 ?
Anyways, if I have to follow Mac guidelines , why can't the big guys
do the same ?
Rob Szarek
U of Ottawa
Remember if a nut offers you some GST, just say "hell no I won't pay"
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 20:37:01 CST
From: Marshall Carroll <NU163467@vm1.nodak.edu>
Subject: MAC IIsi questions re expansion and SIMM
Hi. Question 1 is if I have a two page (or 19" monitor) running (ehman
or mirror, for example), since I gather I need a separate video card
for this, does tha tmean I cannot also slap in a NuBus Slot Adapter Card
containing a 68882 math coprocessor? In other words, if i buy a MAC IIsi and
want to hook it up to a 2-page monitor, is there any possible way I can also
have the 68882 math coprocessor working as well?
Question 2: When they talk about SIMM's (they say the MAC II si needs
100 ns SIMMS, what does the speed refer to? Are 100 ns SIMMS faster than
80 ns SIMMS, (and therefore "better"). Will 80 ns SIMMS still work on a
MAC II si? Thank you. M. Carroll
BITNET: NU163467@NDSUVM1
INTERNET: NU163467@VM1.NODAK.EDU
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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:38:21 EST
From: cornell@unix1.cs.umass.edu (Matthew Cornell)
Subject: Need: styled Text Edit programming help
Hello. I'm using the styled text edit routines and I need to know how
(specifically) do I change text styles (font, size, etc) without
resorting to changing the selection range. (The kludge I use now: I
know how to change the currently-selected text to a new style so what
I do is save the current selection range, select the text range to be
changed, change its style, and reselect the original text; this is
terrible because it's slow and it causes ugly flashing).
I think the _SetStylScrap trap is what I need but I can't get it to
work. If someone has this working the "right" way I would *really*
appreciate seeing example code showing how it's done.
Please reply to me, and thanks!
Matthew Cornell
==================================================
Knowledge Communication Systems Group
Department of Computer and Information Science
University of Massachusetts/Amherst, MA 01002
cornell@cs.umass.edu
(413) 256-6664[home] (413) 545-0582, -3584[office]
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 11:07:14 EST
From: Peter Sweeney <PS9ZRHMC%MIAMIU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: RAM Disk and Print Servers
Hi,
I posted last week and I'm still fishing for clues, although
I have discovered a few new leads.
Revised questions:
I need thoughts and opinions on RAM Disk programs. What is the best?
We are going to be running SEs under 2.5 meg RAM, and would
like to copy our System Folder (1.25 meg) onto the RAM
disk at startup.
I need thoughts and opinions on Print Server software. What is
the best? We are currently using Apple Print Server 2.0.
What I really need is a FAST output device (printer) that is
somewhere below the price (and output quality) of a laser
printer. We are currently using 2 ImageWriter IIs, which
are very nice, 'tis true, but they are not very fast, and
are thus woefully inadequate for the volume we are doing.
Any thoughts and opinions on our alternatives?
Your help is most appreciated.
Any response is welcome.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Sweeney |
Assistant Network Administrator |
200 Elliott Hall | BITNET:ps9zrhmc@miamiu
Miami University |
Oxford, Ohio 45056 | INTERNET:ps9zrhmc@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
(513) 529-3982 |
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 10:01 CDT
From: Margaret Carbaugh King <KING%RHODES.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Russian, Polish fonts
Can anyone out there help? I recall recently seeing a posting on this bulletin
board regarding Cyrillic fonts, but didn't pay any attention.
Now a faculty member needs to generate correspondence in both Russian and
Polish (which uses the Latin alphabetic but with diacretical marks and accents.)
Does anyone know of a word processing package that will address these needs.
Word Perfect has numerous foreign language modules, but not Russian or Polish.
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 17:38:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jeffrey T. Oplinger" <jo1m+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Seattle font appears in the LaserWriter
I recall hearing somewhere that the old Microsoft Excel versions used
the Seattle font and Microsoft wanted a way for the printout to look
nice, so Apple oblidged them and had the LaserWriter Driver (or
LaserPrep) automatically download the font to the printer whenever
powered up.
-- Jeff
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Date: 31 Oct 90 14:25 +0200
From: horacio@cc.unizar.es
Subject: SPAMM?
things as Mac Classic, etc... are already in the Apple Spain Offer.
The Educational prices (without the 12 % VAT) are:
Mac Classic ... 95000 ptas
MAC Classic 2 Mb, HD 1 Mb abut 155000 Ptas
SE/30 about 360000 Ptas,
etc. 1 Pta is 0.01 $ aprox.
I think that the MacClassic permanence implies the salvation of the MAC SE
>From the pire. The next step down the starircase could be next year, with
the 7.0 around. Then I'll probably put the Plus as inteligent terminal on
the kitchen table, with TOPS or something so. But 7.0, 68040, 32 bits free,
etc are things complicated for the market, and no all the users are
"Power users". And would you buy MsWord 6.0 with a size of 3000K if you can
make a 97% of the work with the 3.0 ,400K sized? I think the same about power.
And a card from INMOS or INTEL can make the hard work cheaper/better than
a all-MacFx-network a 68040.
For powering the Lab, Im thinking on another things outside the Mac world.
Do you know prices of things as the NeXt, DECstations, etc.? All this systems
can run Mathematica, by example. Other SOLUTION could be that mathematica,
theorist etc let you to substitute their numerical subroutines by
subroutines to call to the calculation card. The apple Resource architecture
must help, and the cards makers, or Wolfram could provide the patchs.
(If anyone knows the email address of Wolfram please write me. Our Dept is
making T800 cards and a multiprocessor machine- not for mac, but all could be)
The September (?) MacUser Question is:
Which could be the technological INNOVATION Apple NEEDS?
Im waiting to read the answer soon. In 1984 and 1987, the Special on computing
of Scientific American made a 75% at least of good predictions. This could be
soon a clue. Another fact: the 1984 special had 3 article authors from
apple. The 1987 special had zero.
Alejandro Rivero
Theoretical physics dept
Zaragoza univ- spain
horacio@cc.unizar.es
PS for Ed: I dont know that SPAMM does exactly, but I remember that integer or
fixed point calculations doesnt take benefit form a coprocessor, so a
substitution for the ROM would:
-accelerate screen e integer output calculations, if they use the FIXED
point library.
-accelerate calculation in general if the substitute include 688XX calls.
If SPAMM doesnt work, must exist another somewhere with fulfills this
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Date: 31 Oct 90 11:23:34
From: Robert.H.Gross@mac.dartmouth.edu
Subject: strange database needs
Hello net-
I have an unusual problem that needs to be solved. I am keeping some of
the statistics for a hockey team, which include shots taken, goals, assists,
etc. for each player and for the team as well as some graphic information -
where on the ice was each shot taken from.
For numerical data, I use Excel which works just fine. To track
information about where each shot is taken from, I am using Canvas 2.1. I
have created a base layer that has a representation of the hockey rink. For
each game, I add a layer to the document containing the location of each shot
(a little 'x'). By printing one or more layers, I can show the shot locations
>From one or more games. My question is - how can I do statistics, e.g. what %
of shots came from the left? or from behind the blue line? Has the shot
distribution changed during the season? during the course of a game? etc. One
way I can see to do this is to divide the rink into a series of zones and then
place the shot count for each zone (for each game) into Excel. This would
mean counting all the little x's for each zone for each game and then entering
the results into Excel. It strikes me that there must be a better way to do
this. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for your help.
- Bob Gross
bob.gross@dartmouth.edu
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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 90 21:23 EST
From: MIKE MORGAN <MMORGAN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Survey: Grammar Checkers
To netters who write,
>From: Mike Morgan,
Coordinator of the Writing Center
Bemidji State University
Bemidji MN
I've noticed that there's been a lot of discussion on grammar checkers
on a couple of the Mac nets lately. I'm glad to see this discussion re-
opened. Right now, I'm doing some casual research into how people use
grammar checkers and would like to ask the network users for their help.
At Bemidji State University, we occasionally teach students how
to use a grammar and style checker as a way of helping them gain
more control over their sentence level writing problems. Sometimes
it's helpful, sometimes not. There's also a lot of academic-level
speculation in articles on how to use grammar checkers and how *not* to
use them, and on why they are Good Things, and why the are not Good
Things. But there's nothing like finding out how people who actually
use the programs really *do* use them and what they see as the virtues
and drawbacks of the beasts.
What I'm asking is this: To help us teach the use of grammar checkers
in college-level writing courses, and to help us teach soon-to-be-teachers
how to deal with grammar checkers, I would appreciate your True Stories on
using (and abusing?) the programs. I'm asking how you *really* use the
things: What kind of writing or situations you use them for; how you
use them (do you take the advice or not); if you find them helpful or
a hinderance or something else entirely; if you find them friendly or
not-so-friendly; what's frustrating about them and what makes it worth
putting up with through the frustration, and so on.
If you would, please take a few minutes to tell me how you use a grammar
checker in your day-to-day work. A list of questions follows; you can
use this to jog your mind, but please don't confine yourself to the
questions, and don't feel you have to deal with every one of them.
Post your notes to be directly so not to jam the net; I'll summarize
responses and post them. Send to MMORGAN@BGSUOPIE.BITNET. That is a
Bowling Green State University address; I'm not currently at Bemidji
State (and believe me, if you've been there, you would think twice about
it :-))
NB: Spelling and grammar *does not count*!
Questions to consider:
What program do you usually use? (eg MacProof, Sensible Grammar, etc)
For what kind of writing do you use it? Professional stuff? Term
papers? Letters to Mom? and so on.
Did you have any training in using the program, or did you pick it up
from the manual? (You *did* read the manual, didn't you?)
What frustrations/problems/difficulties do you find in using it?
This could be both interface problems and checker-problems.
What successes have you had with it? Where do you think it really
helps? What have you learned from using it that you might not have
if you never touched it?
What are its limits, as you see it? What *can't* it do for you?
Any particularly obnoxious interface problems in the checker you use?
Any particularly wonderful interface features in the checker you use?
Are their any particular features in the checkers you've used that you
find particularly useful?
What advice would you give to other who are beginning to use them?
What do you *really* want to see in a grammar checker?
Any thing else to add?
Thanks for the help, people.
MMORGAN@BGSUOPIE.BITNET
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 09:09:18 GMT
From: Darkinbad The Good! <hpj%cxa.dl.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: The Mac Classic
Last week I got one of the first Mac Classics to be sold in Britain.
At the moment they are still being shipped with System 6.0.6 to the UK. This is
not too mush of a problem for me since I was able to download 6.0.7 from
Apple.com.
So far I am quite impressed with my Classic. Its almost the same as an SE with
regards speed.The front of the machine has been redesigned so that the speaker
ports and vents are now at the sides of the machine and underneath the shelf at
the front (Similar to a plus). The 40M internal hard disk is exceptionally
quietSo quiet that I thought it had broken at first. It make the disk on a IIcx
soundlike a road drill. My only critism in respect of the HD is that there is
now
access light. This makes it difficult sometimes to tell if a program has
crashedor whatever.
Other people have mentioned that Macintalk was now an Obsolete piece of code
nowthat Apple has introduced the System 7 sound manager into 6.0.6 and 6.0.7.
This doesn't seem to be the case since I have managed to get macintalk to work
fine under both 6.0.6 and 6.0.7.\
There have been a few programs which have refused to work under 6.0.7 though.
One of these is SoundEdit. When I try to run this I get an UNIMPLEMENTED TRAP
ERR.I also have some INITs which now case problems where non (6.0.5) existed
before
on an SE that I also have. These include MacWrite refusing to run when
SuperClock is loaded. Other INITs such as SoundMaster 1.5 seem to run without
any problems at all under the new sound Manager.
The other worry for new owners may be the use of Hypercard and its various
versions
Untill last week I was unaware that HC 1.2.2 wouldn't run under 6.0.5 which is
strange since I have been using it for about two months without any problems!
I have also been using HC 1.2.2. with sys 6.0.7 for a week now without any
trouble. Maybe you have to be doing something really sophisticated like using
XCMDs
before problems arise.
Roll on HC 2.0. ( Should be getting my free copy any day now)
The only other critism I have with the Classic Is that memory upgrade require an
add-on board since the RAM that comes with the machine is soldered into the
board! I wanted to upgrade to 4M but my dealer hasn't got any boards and
neitherhas antone else yet!
Hope that helps anyone out there who may be thinking of buyingone of the new
macs.
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 90 16:59:51 EST
From: braman@btvlabvm.iinus1.ibm.com
Subject: Think C 4.0 worth it?
Help.........Netters
I put in an order for Think C which was listed for $175.00 with
APDA. Now they call back and tell me that the new Think C is v 4.0
and the new price is $249.00. That's a big jump. Any of you aware
of what the new features are in 4.0 and if such a big price jump is
justified? Maybe I should have a second look at MPW C, C++.
Thanks for your feedback.
Balu Raman, CCP
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