Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (11/09/90)
Info-Mac Digest Thu, 8 Nov 90 Volume 8 : Issue 186
Today's Topics:
[*] ChooserUser 1.0b7
[*] gawk
[*] LockBootVolNameINIT 1.0b1
[*] MyTimeDemo 3.0
Callback Entrypoints
Cataloging Art
CD ROM drives on AppleShare Server
DeskWriter - HP please listen!
External HD fails on Classic, who can help ?
fax modem report
FaxModems and .cpt files
Foxbase
Happy User
Info for networking Apple Macintosh
Mac Mice Replacement Info Wanted
More on HyperCard woes
Programming INITS
RGB Monitor woes, digest V8 #185
SMALLTALK ON FX
Sound Manager in 6.0.7
Spooler
sun remarketing
symbolic logic courseware
TermBug
The Apple 2 Card for the new Macs
The Mac Classic vs the SE
Think C 4.0.2, CLIM
Video crash
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 90 18:26:39 EDT
From: volaski@contra.med.buffalo.edu (Maurice Volaski)
Subject: [*] ChooserUser 1.0b7
ChooserUser 1.0b7 is a freeware init/cdev combination that lets you control who can change the user name in the Chooser desk accessory. It also allows the user name to be changed at startup, either manually or automatically. This program will be particularly useful to public Macintosh labs found in university settings.
ChooserUser 1.0b7 fixes a few bugs in ChooserUser 1.0b5 and also adds a couple of new features.
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/chooser-user-10b7.hqx; 23K]
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 90 09:13:44 CDT
From: jak9213@helios.tamu.edu (John Kane)
Subject: [*] gawk
Here is gawk for the macintosh. I am forwarding it for the gentleman below.
Please direct questions on the software to Tom, questions concerning a bad
upload to me.
Thanks.
John Arthur Kane, Systems Analyst, Microcomputer Support and Training
Texas A&M University, College Station, TX 77843 (409) 845-9999
jak9213@helios.tamu.edu profs: x043jk@tamvm1.tamu.edu
> John,
>
> I would greatly appreciate your forwarding of gawk to those sites/news
> group. I am a contractor here and I don't like to abuse the privelege of
> net.access they allow me. The gawk release, in a series of 7 Stuffed/Bin
> Hexed, will be emailed out to you today. My only request is that you
> make sure my .signature gets in the posting so that people are able to
> contact me directly. Thanks!
>
> Tom
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Tom Maszerowski tcm@moscom.com
> {rit,tropix,ur-valhalla}!moscom!tcm
>
[Archived as /info-mac/util/gawk-part1.hqx; 206K
/info-mac/util/gawk-part2.hqx; 200K]
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 90 18:27:37 EDT
From: volaski@contra.med.buffalo.edu (Maurice Volaski)
Subject: [*] LockBootVolNameINIT 1.0b1
LockBootVolName INIT 1.0b1 is a freeware init that prevents users from changing the name of the bootup volume in the Finder.
[Archived as /info-mac/init/lock-boot-vol-name.hqx; 6K]
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 90 14:43:33 EDT
From: monty@sunne.east.sun.com (Monty Solomon - Temp Consultant)
Subject: [*] MyTimeDemo 3.0
MyTimeDemo(TM) Notes
===================
MyTimeDemo(TM) is a demonstration version of MyTimeManager(TM). The
demonstration version doesn't print or save files, nor does it open files.
Nearly all other functionality is complete (reminders, todo list, various views
etc.)
MyTimeDemo(TM) * is * free to share with your friends and colleagues as long as
this note is included and it is not redistributed for profit or as part of any
commercially sold product. MyTimeDemo(TM) is copyrighted material, (c) 1987 -
1990 by Brian J. DeLacey
Printed documentation (75+ pages), including the latest MyTimeDemo(TM) version
on disk, is available for $10 from:
MacShack Enterprises tel: 617-876-6343
19 Harrington Road
Cambridge, MA 02140
ATTN: MTM Demo
Payment is accepted in the form of personal or corporate checks. Customers
outside the United States should send payment in the form of a bank check
payable in US funds. Massachusetts residents should include 5% sales tax;
orders from outside the United States and Canada should add $10 for shipping and
handling.
The price of MyTimeManager(TM), as of 7/15/90, is $79.95 (subject to change -
but for the time being we think it's just about the best buy around!)
MyTimeManager(TM) is * NOT * free to give away. MyTimeManager(TM)is commercial,
copyrighted software.
Please call or write if you have any questions about MyTimeManager(TM).
Best regards,
Brian J. DeLacey
MacShack Enterprises (tel: 617-876-6343)
19 Harrington Road
Cambridge, MA 02140
[Archived as /info-mac/demo/my-time-demo.hqx; 144K]
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 08:40 EDT
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Callback Entrypoints
It's actually quite simple to implement callback routines that external code
resources can call: you just pass the external code a pointer to a procedure
that dispatches all callbacks to the appropriate routines. Simple to do, I
mean, not necessarily simple to understand :) Also, it's easier to do in C
than in Pascal, since Pascal requires some inline assembler in order to call
a procedure by pointer.
Hey, this is starting to sound really hackerish. If you want the details,
look at Tech Note #135, "Getting through CUSToms" (it's in the Info-Mac
archives). Should tell you everything you want to know.
Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET
Apple Support Manager
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B.
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:43 MST
From: JBPowlesland%UNCAMULT.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Cataloging Art
Re: the recent inquiry about some type of software to catalog scanned images
of Europeon art.
The other day I came across a brochure from Editor's Choice Software (4224 -
24th Ave West, Seattle, Wash 98199). In it was a program called The Curator
>From Solutions Incorporated. Apparently, the program allows you to search for
graphics files by full or partial filenames, keywords, or by miniature graphic
thumbnails without having to open the files. It handles both PICT and TIFF
(typical scanner formats) in addition to many other Mac and PC file formats.
It also converts between formats.
The Curator retails for $139.95. The brochure mentions that you can get it
through Editor's Choice for $109.95.
They also give a toll-free number (1-800-641-1116) you can use 6 am to 10 pm
(Pacific Time) Mon-Fri.
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 23:24:57 -0500 (EST)
From: "Norman William Franke, III" <nf0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: CD ROM drives on AppleShare Server
The Carnegie Mellon University Macintosh User's Group had a server with
an Apple CD-ROM on a server. What we did was boot the machine, put in the
disk and run the Admin program to set it up as a server volume, then run
the file server when done it's done from the Finder.
This worked well for us... We had a Rodime 140 meg HD on a MacSE if it
matters...
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:27:02 GMT
From: barleben@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Friedrich Barleben)
Subject: DeskWriter - HP please listen!
I decided to upgrade my serial HP DeskWriter to AppleTalk compatibility. As
far as I know this does not seem to be a problem for those who live in the
United States, where you simply have to carry your DW to a local HP dealer.
But in the UK and Germany (maybe in all European countries) HP does NOT offer
such upgrades.
What I would like to know now is:
Could I buy a DeskWriter serial>localTalk upgrade kit from someone in the
US, import it and install it myself? Any helpful information (addresses,
prices, risks,...) is welcome. Please e-mail to
barleben@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de
BTW: I would not like to buy Shiva+s NetSerial - it is much more expensive.
--
mail: barleben@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de | Fiete Barleben
phone: +49-761-203-3410 or +49-761-702503 | Institut fuer Biologie III
fax: +49-761-203-2745 or +49-761-702503 | Schaenzlestrasse 1
BTX: *0761702503# | D-7800 Freiburg
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:22 MET
From: KRAALINGEN%CABO.AGRO.NL@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: External HD fails on Classic, who can help ?
Dear Net,
I have purchased a 1 Mb Classic, single floppy, recently. I have been trying
to connect an external Apple HD20SC 20 Mb harddisk to the Classic
without any succes. The disk icon does not appear on the desktop and
also initialization fails. I know that the HD is ok because I have seen it work
with an SE, II and IIcx. Also initialization on these machines works
fine.
Now, according to the Apple shop, the machine I received
had an internal hard disk that was removed shortly before the machine
was sold to me.
What could possibly be wrong ? Should they have done something
with an internal SCSI terminator before locking up the case ?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Daniel van Kraalingen
Centre for Agrobiological Research
Wageningen, The Netherlands
kraalingen@cabo.agro.nl
and:
kraalingen@rcl.wau.nl
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Date: Wed 7 Nov 90 22:13:52-HST
From: Harold Miller <CNET2SH@uhccvx.uhcc.hawaii.edu>
Subject: fax modem report
I just purchased the DoveFax modem Fax modem ($270+- mailorder) and it is great.
It is setup to act like a printer. i.e. you go to the chooser and select the
faxmodem. Then,
whenever PRINT, it brings up the fax screen allowing u to send the file
over the phone lines.
That means that u can fax from ANY program, and without having to quit the
program.
We also have a scanner...so we can scan in images/letters/etc and then
quickly send it via fax.
The modem is really tiny and includes a standard 2400 telephone modem as well.
Keep in mind that the Dovefax will not run properly on a 1M Mac....you must
have at least 2M of ram for it to work.
Received files can be saved as PICT or MacPaint files.
If the quality of the received fax is high enough, you could print it
out and then scan it back in with Omnipage to make it into a text file...
but probably not worth the trouble in most cases.
Hope this helps.
Harold Miller
Maui, Hawaii
CNET2SH@UHCCVX.BITNET
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 22:28 CST
From: WILLIAMS@gamma.is.tcu.edu
Subject: FaxModems and .cpt files
I've had great success with a 9600bps group III send/receive external fax
made by Orchid Technologies. It's requires (I think) 2 megs of memory, at
lease system 6, and about 5 megs of free disk space.
OrchidFax comes bundled with Solutions Int'l BackFax which has been optimized
for the OrchidFax. BackFax consists of an init, an application, and a chooser
document.
Once the init is loaded, the OrchidFax will automatically send and receive
faxes in the background. It has an address book built in to store all the
fax numbers and will automatically use a cover page.
I recommend using Adobe Type Manager as the easiest way to send faxes is by
going into a document in your favorite word processor and selecting the
FaxModem in the chooser. (shows up as MailServer)
ATM will scale outline fonts to the 100x200 bitmap of the fax output device.
Recieved faxes are logged, stored, and can be output to TIFF formatted files.
I have tried to use both OmniPage and Accutext to read in Faxes. OmniPage
(by Caere) has been able to do a decent job of scanning, though it for some
reason can't read the TIFF files that BackFax writes, necessitating opening
the file in Adobe PhotoShop or some other bit-oriented editor and re-saving
the file.
AccuText (Kurzweil [Xerox]) seems to have cateracts -- I've not had much
luck in scanning ANYTHING with it. OmniPage works much better.
Additionally, Solutions makes a package called FaxGate which allows you to
set up a machine with an OrchidFax as a Fax Server. Any Mac connected to
a network on which a machine running FaxGate and having an OrchidFax can use
QuickMail or Microsoft Mail to send and receive faxes.
Pricing: OrchidFax $599.00 list ($420.00 street)
FaxGate ?? ($225.00 street)
***********
.cpt files are Compactor Archives
***********
If you have any questions, please drop me a line.
Mark Williams
williams@tcucvms.bitnet
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 22:55:01 GMT
From: typ125m@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr John Wilkins)
Subject: Foxbase
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:
> Has anyone used Foxbase successfully on a Mac Network using the Apple Inte
>rnet Router? We are presently beta testing an application which has been runni
>ng flawlessly on a standalone Mac system for several months. When trying to ma
>ke the application and database accessable to the network the developers have r
>un into problems.
>Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Please reply directly and I will
>summarize for the group
We have used FoxBase 2.0 with Internet Router, and although there
are no problems with this specific configuration (apart from a posting
I made a while back about Adobe Type Reunion 1.x with FB, now corrected
with v 2, I think), we have real problems with Internet Router generally.
It is slow to print (using an SE as the server) and conflicts with the
Aldus driver for PageMaker. You might look at that - I gather Liaison is
getting better press.
--
John Wilkins, Manager, Publications Services
Monash University, Melbourne, Australia
Postal Address: PO Box 197, Caulfield East, Victoria 3145 AUSTRALIA
Tel: +613 573 2099; Fax: +613 573 2729
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Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 11:26:45 EST
From: CSLIBSHP@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Happy User
To the many impoverished labs, departments, projects, and individuals who
nevertheless are sticking to their Macs, I offer this report on my quest
for affordable Macintosh printing:
Our lab Imagewriter LQ was stolen by a discerning thief (didn't touch the
PC equipment!) and no funds were available to replace it immediately. A
cheap interim solution was needed, one that would satisfy users who had
been rather spoiled by the speed and quality of the LQ.
In brief, this is what we tried:
ImageWriterII : moderate speed, moderate print quality, pricey for a dot-
matrix ($450 or so)
Seikosha SP1000 AP : s-l-o-o-o-w!, print quality equal of IW II, cheap ($200)
Epson LQ850 w/Grappler LX : fast, print quality problems, combined about $500
This promised to be a cheap LQ replacement, but didn't deliver. The Grappler
uses only its own fonts, which did not print at what I would call Letter
quality, and it completely trashes regular Mac fonts, not even printing them
as well as an IW II. Plus, the Grappler hogged so much memory that Hypercard
could not even boot. (1M Mac)
Epson FX850 with Graflex interface : fast, better quality print than IW II, and
moderately priced at around $400 for printer and interface. This is the best
solution we could find at moderate price, and it offers a lot of flexibility,
as the Epson can move to another Mac or a PC later, and the Graflex works
well with any Epson printer, plus a number of other brands, and does not use
any memory. (Configuration data is stored in the interface itself)
I was pleasantly suprised at the speed and quality of the FX850/Graflex combo,
and am not sure how it manages to work better than an ImagewriterII. Could
someone suggest a quick&dirty benchmark test I could run on these?
One thing is for sure - when you see interface cable ads suggesting that you
ease the workload on your laser printer by hooking up "an old dot-matrix lying
around the office", a worn or misaligned print head produces ugly Mac output
which may not have been as apparent when using it with a PC. Beware!
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Julie Burke / CSL / School of Library Science || My own opinions &
Kent State University / Kent, OH 44242 || hard knocks, though
Bitnet: cslibshp@kentvm (216) 672-2782 || exp. on company time!
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 9:47:47 PST
From: sulistio@sutro.sfsu.edu (Sulistio Muljadi)
Subject: Info for networking Apple Macintosh
Hi,
I would like to have some information about networking Macintosh.
I have no experience in networking so I need your advice.
We have 3 macs (Not much). One of them is SE/30 and has 40 MB HD
and 1 MB RAM. The other 2 is SE without hard disk, and has 2 disk
drives, 800 K.
I would like to network these macs, and use the SE/30 as the server.
These macs does not have a heavy usage, other words, it is not used
so much.
We don't have laserwriter, but we do have HP laserjet II. So, I would
like to know about connecting the MAC to the HP. The best and cheap way.
What kind of network software should I use? We don't have money to buy
expensive network software. Is Apple Share fit? Do I have to upgrade
my SE/30? What hardware do I need to buy? How much is it going to cost
me? Is there any educational discount? Where can I get the hardware and
software cheap?
Any more info will be appreciated. And Thank you Very much for your info.
Muljadi Sulistio
sulistio@sutro.sfsu.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 08:22 CDT
From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Mac Mice Replacement Info Wanted
Here at Auburn University, we have two Mac lab sites, with 16 Macs each.
After 9 to 18 months use, about seven of the mice have gone uncontrollably
bad. Cleaning doesn't help, and the local Apple store doesn't want to fool
with trying to fix them. Through this store, we can replace them with
Apple mice for around $85.00 each, or buy new ones for about $105.00. Are
there any decent third party mouse vendors around with a more reasonable
price? I'm still looking for the same type of mouse (i.e. no optical mice,
roller balls, etc.).
If anyone has any info, could you please e-mail me at the address below?
Thanks to all that can help.
Dean Money
Academic Computing Specialist
Auburn University, AL
205/844-4813
dmoney@auducvax, dmoney@ducvax.auburn.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:39:23 EST
From: "Craig R. Lee" <craig@mako.stat.ufl.edu>
Subject: More on HyperCard woes
Thanks go to Bruce Carter for getting back to me informing me that my HyperCard
stack is corrupted. He suggested that I get a copy of a stack called "Recover".
However, this stack is not in the archives. I was able to obtain a copy of it
off of a CD-ROM, but it bombed with an error saying it was written for an older
version of the software. Does anyone have a copy of "Recover" that will work
with HyperCard 1.2.5 and will you post it to info-mac?
Thanks for any help.
Craig Lee
University of Florida
craig@stat.ufl.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 08:48 EDT
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Programming INITS
I haven't done this before, so maybe I shouldn't try to answer this, but here
goes anyway: You don't write INITS that do periodic things in the background.
You write drivers that do periodic things in the background, and then write an
INIT that loads your driver into the system heap at startup time. The INIT
resource and the DRVR resource will both be in a file of type INIT. Writing a
driver shouldn't be much harder than writing a desk accessory, since a DA is
really only a special kind of driver.
Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET
Apple Support Manager
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B.
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Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 00:06:00 EST
From: bmwu@athena.mit.edu
Subject: RGB Monitor woes, digest V8 #185
Dear Netters:
Thanks for the quick response to the question I posed
regarding my monitor giving incorrect color.
I followed the suggestion to remove and reconnect
the cable between the monitor and the CPU box. After that,
the monitor was displaying the correct color again. The monitor was
looking purple because one of the RGB signals was not being
transmitted appropriately and hence the purple glaze that I observed.
The involvement of Solarian was purely COINCIDENTAL. I guess
my friend probably jarred the cable connection loose when he hit the
restart button.
thanks for all the replies.
Best regards,
Benson Wu
bmwu@athena.mit.edu
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Date: THU, 8 NOV 1990 15:10 JST
From: KAZUYUKI KONKO (TOKYO INTERNATIONAL UNIV.) <KONKO%JPNTIU01.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: SMALLTALK ON FX
HELLO .
DOSE ANYONE KNOW THAT SMALLTALK(PARCPLACE) ON A FX(6.0.5) CAN RUNNING ?
AND I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT .
1. HOW MUCH MEMORIES DOSE IT NEED ?
2. HOW MUCH DISKS DOSE IT NEED ?
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
/T.I.U : KAZUYUKI KONKO
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 10:36:37 PST
From: PUGH%CCV.ESNET@ccc.nersc.gov
Subject: Sound Manager in 6.0.7
I really hate to whine, but 6.0.7's Sound Manager appears to be completely
bogus. I installed it on my SE/30 and Macintosh IIfx and it flatly refuses to
function properly. I cannot play many of my sound resources installed via
Suitcase II. Even when I open Suitcase's dialog and have it try to play them,
they just refuse to play. On the fx I was getting many crashes, which Macsbug
often identified as being in the Sound Manager code from the System. I have
reverted to 6.0.5 until further notice.
I was hoping that this Sound Manager would fix a lot of the crashes I have
attributed to multiple programs making sound at the same time, but instead it
appears that it is difficult for any program to make noise with 6.0.7. I
would like to make use of some of the other fixes incorporated into 6.0.7 but
I cannot live with the crashes. My SE/30 has not crashed, but it exhibits the
same inability to play snd resources through the SysBeep call. I have not yet
backed it up to 6.0.5 but I am planning on it soon.
I hope the Sound Manager gets more work before 7.0.
Jon
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 12:44:37 -0500
From: arthur@judy.indstate.edu (Arthur Dent)
Subject: Spooler
Can anyone out there point me to a source for a print spooler for
the Macintosh? I have a PostScript file generated that I would like to
print, but the only Laser Printers that I have access to are hooked up
to Macs. The software I use isn't compatible with the Mac, so I can't
just port the data. I do have a captured outfile that should work
with the printer.
An ftp site would be great......
Thanx in advance
arthur@indstate.judy.edu
P.S. If you reply, try to do so directly to my mailbox. I don't
subscribe to Info-Mac.....
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 11:23:05 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joseph S. Mertz" <jm7l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: sun remarketing
does anyone have any postive or negative experiences from dealing
with Sun Remarketing. i am interested in a rebuilt early
mac (128, 512, plus...) and their prices and warranty look
interesting.
thanks,
--joe mertz
jm7l@andrew.cmu.edu
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 08:38:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Leslie Burkholder <lb0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: symbolic logic courseware
>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 90 17:01 EDT
>From: DAILEY@vaxsar.vassar.edu
>Subject: symbolic logic courseware
>
>Where might I find out about Mac programs for instruction in
>symbolic logic?
>
>Thanks, David Dailey
Send me a papermail address and I'll send you the issue of the Computers
& Philosophy newsletter from mid-1989 carrying the cumulative philosophy
software list. Probably C&P N will have its last issue late this year
and there will be another more up to date listing. After that the
listings will appear in the new journal Computing & Philosophy (Ablex,
contact: Barbara Bernstein).
Leslie Burkholder
CoEditor, Computing & Philosophy
Carnegie Mellon University
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:41 CDT
From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG%LAWRENCE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: TermBug
Does anyone know where I could a copy of TermBugA or TermBugB or both?
They are versions of MacsBug that output to the serial port instead of
the screen.
thanks,
Greg Trimper
TRIMPERG@LAWRENCE.bitnet !Note the G! -bitnet
trimper@aebbs.lakesys.com !note no g! -uucp, etc.
Trimper - AOL
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 16:42 EST
From: Bongo Bunny Rules! <G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu>
Subject: The Apple 2 Card for the new Macs
I was just wondering...Is the new Apple 2 card for the Mac LC going to work in
the Mac IIsi?
And if it does, will that complicate adding a NUBUS card since it only has one
expansion slot?
Thanks
Gordon Werner
Internet => G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu
or G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:52 EST
From: <MACLAB%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: The Mac Classic vs the SE
I have heard many complaints in the past few weeks about the expandability of
the Clasic and would like to clear up a fw things.
FIRST, the Classic is expandable through any of the ports on the back of the
machine.
SECOND, there was an add in last weeks MacWeek that announced a third-party
product that would add a NuBus slot to the Classic.
THIRD, one reason that the Classsic does not have an expansion slot is that
Apple polled users and found out that only about 15% of normal users used their
Nubus slots (higher for MacIIs that need video cards).
FOURTH, the non-use of slots led Apple to the assumption that the users who had
been complaining about Macs being too highly priced would not mind sacrificing
something almost no one used for a large reduction in price!
Just to dispel any rumors (and cut down on FLAMES) here is what else was taken
out b/c of price.
1) The brightness control on the Classic was replaced by software.
2) Some of the reset switches are now replaced by software (ie, keyboard).
3) There is one less ADB port on the new machines (leaving one).
4) The new Mac standard microphone is not on the Classic.
5) The power supplies for the new machines are not the International Boxes
present in the old Macs. (ie, you will need a converter in other countries).
6) The new "GS-type" keyboard (enough said).
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
You've got low prices! Don't whine!
If you had needed all the over-engineered traits inherent in all the earlier
machines you should have bought one of them.
Bill Cockayne
Bitnet: maclab@vuvaxcom
Internet: maclab@ucis.vill.edu
AppleLink: ST0666
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:29 CDT
From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG%LAWRENCE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Think C 4.0.2, CLIM
Balu Raman wrote:
>I put in an order for Think C which was listed for $175.00 with
APDA. Now they call back and tell me that the new Think C is v 4.0
and the new price is $249.00.
Well, I ordered Think c 4.0 from MacWharehouse, then updated it to
version 4.0.2 with the updater program available from info-mac or AOL.
To quote from the manual, the new features inlude:
- set of object extensions for OOP that are UPWARDLY compatible with C++
-Think Class Libraries
- more ANSI compatibilty
- inline assmebler support for the 020/881
- debugger works with CDEVs
and others.
I am happy with this package. I upgraded from Turbo Pascal to Think C 4.0
and Think Pascal 3.0 (total cost = $333 from Macwarehouse), and find
both environments very capable (more capable than myself, as a matter of
fact, but what else is new :). So, Balu, order the new version
mailorder.
***Also - I sent a binhex file to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu that
was CLIM, the command line interpreter that some people were looking
for. Did it get posted?
Greg Trimper
TRIMPERG@LAWRENCE.bitnet !Note the G! -bitnet
trimper@aebbs.lakesys.com !note no g! -uucp, etc.
Trimper - AOL
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Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:14 EDT
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Video crash
This is kind of a shot in the dark, but I did have a very similar experience
with a Mac II some months ago. It wasn't quite the same exact symptoms, but I
did have the neat "restart chime but screen still frozen" effect you described.
In my case the problem turned out to be that the motherboard wasn't firmly
seated inside its case: it was sitting on top of some of the hooks that were
supposed to be holding it down. Because of this the motherboard was slightly
flexed, and after it had warmed up some it would "depart for nether regions" at
random intervals. Pushing everything back down in place solved the problem.
Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET
Apple Support Manager
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B.
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