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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 9 Nov 90 Volume 8 : Issue 187 Today's Topics: 800k internal drive Ada on the Mac? a GatorBox users mail list Anatomy Stacks Appleshare PC question Array boundaries in C (think C, V4) CRC on Mac databases Drive activity on internals Flame on Symantec IIci and 6.0.7 causes copy problems? IIfx & MacDrawII;Print Server Japanese word processing Mac Classic Vs. SE & Expansion Slot Mac Database Toolkits? MacHack '91 Call for Papers NCSA Telnet via FTP Netware 2.15C Mac VAPS PC as appleshare server? Printing PostSCript graphics from Word files Programming Q: Screensaver crashes SMALLTALK ON FX Survey: ][ in a Mac Thank you (WAS: HyperCard 2.0 and Netnews Reader) Think C 4.02 upgrader prog ufFile() in HyperTalk 2.0 V8 #185- Callback Entrypoin Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) From: Wai Sung Kok <wk0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: 800k internal drive hello, the internal 800k drive in my Mac+ just died on me, the local computer store wants $197 just for a new drive. Since I got a hard disk , I would like to force the Mac to boot off my hard disk by diconnecting the internal disk drive. Would this work? any better solution? where can I get a internal disk drive cheaper? thanks -wai ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 12:48 PDT From: "costello@amstel.llnl.gov (415)422-1012" <COSTELLO@amstel.llnl.gov> Subject: Ada on the Mac? Greetings, I am seraching for an Ada compiler to run on the Mac. I have viewed a product (called MacAda?) which is fundamentally a window into the workings of a compiler. While a useful demonstration, it is not an Ada compiler. If anyone knows of a true compiler for the Mac (commercial or [any]ware), please contact me. I have been looking for some time with no success. Thanks again, Ed Costello (415) 422-1012 (days) (415) 846-3394 (eves) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 10:09:19 EST From: Loki Jorgenson Rm421 <loki@physics.mcgill.ca> Subject: a GatorBox users mail list Another mail list for you mail-junkies-with-a-purpose: Cayman has started a list for GatorBox users to cooperate through. It is at "gbusers@cayman.com". I am not sure if "gbusers-request" hits the moderator or not. Cayman says that they will be listening but will only enter the fray if asked directly. __ __ / / \ \ Loki Jorgenson / /\/\/\/\/\/\ \ node: loki@physics.mcgill.ca Physics, McGill University < < > > fax: (514) 398-3733 Montreal Quebec CANADA \ \/\/\/\/\/\/ / phone: (514) 398-6531 \_\ /_/ __ __ <_< Claimer: I speak for everyone in their right mind... mine. >_> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 20:55:21 EST From: "Gregory E. Gilbert" <C0195%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Anatomy Stacks Does any one have any anatomy stacks or have a source where I might get some? Of particular interest are stacks concerning the anatomy of the eye. Thanks much, I greatly appreciate your assistance. Regards, Greg. Postal address: Gregory E. Gilbert Computer Services Division University of South Carolina Columbia, South Carolina USA 29208 (803) 777-6015 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 15:00:42 EST From: Francis Taylor <narf@media-lab.media.mit.edu> Subject: Appleshare PC question Sorry to make Mac users look at this, but sometimes life requires one to make compromises. Does anyone have any experiences, good or bad, with Appleshare PC? I have some questions about it that are not answered in their literature: - does it work with the TOPS (Centram Systems...) LocalTalk card? - does it work with EMS? - how much memory does it use? - How do they deal with the newline problem? - Do you generally find it to be useful, or a pain in the ass? Thanks for your time. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 90 10:54:26 EST From: Chris Jones <UOG00162%VM.UoGuelph.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Array boundaries in C (think C, V4) What kinds of interesting ways can a person employ to get around that nasty 32767 byte limit that C has? I need an array of not less than 65536 cells, or the equivalent. I would like to be able to do it without allocating memory & storing/manipulating all that manually. any ideas? (anything at all appreciated!!) Chris Jones UOG00162@VM.UOGUELPH OPPCODE: SCTR Stick Card To Reader OPPCODE: RTS Return To Sender ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Nov 90 20:27:30 GMT From: Donald Peterson <PetersonDM@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk> Subject: CRC on Mac I have a Mac Classic with Word 4 and OzTeX (LaTeX), and access to an Apple LaserWriter. I have to produce high quality text output, sometimes for camera ready copy, with some math symbols. I'd much rather use Word 4 (as it's WISIWYG), but so far the quality of text has not been so good as that from LaTeX, so I've been using that, despite the extra work. Basically, the (automatic) paragraph formatting with LaTeX is far better (from the inter-letter kerning, through inter word-spacing, to the general formatting of the paragraph), giving a much better appearance on the page. In contrast, Word's output has an uneven "typical Mac look", not at all like a hand-set book etc. Can anyone tell me how to remedy this? Would Adobe fonts help? Or could I put Word's output through Quark Express or PageMaker to improve the formatting? Also, in LateX you get all necessary math symbols. What I mostly need is Predicate Calculus and Set Notation. Would an extra font help with Word, or is there some other way of getting the necessary symbols? Thanks, Donald Peterson. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 16:16:13 EST From: "Richard M. Davis" <N700080@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu> Subject: databases I'm interested in setting up a simple database for a novice mac user. The database needs to include approximately 100 columns and an unlimited number of row with numeric and character fields. It would be nice to include miscellaneous statements in fields and have the ability to number crunch. The database will contain patient information in the medical field. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 12:58:39 CST From: strick@slcs.slb.com (Don Strickland) Subject: Drive activity on internals I use 'In Use 2.0' on both the portable and my MacIIcx. The cx is on a shelf (almost) out of sight. In Use 2.0 not only shows activity, but it tells me which SCSI device is active. It blinks a small number (0-7) in the corner, next to the Apple. In Use is in the sumex archives. > Subject: Drive light INIT for internals > > In v8-180, robert wilson <RWILSON%UTCVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> > writes: > > > Apple doesn't allow the user to see the drive indicator light on > > internal hard drives. Is there an init which places a light icon in > > the menu bar that turns on when there is disk activity? If not how > > hard would it be write? > > Better still, how about lighting one of the unused lights on the > keyboard? > > -- > Shannon Spires > Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM > Internet: SVSPIRE@SANDIA.GOV Don W Strickland Internet: strick@slcs.slb.com Compuserve: 70531,2666 Austin, Texas AppleLink: N1090 Schlumberger Lab for Computer Science Connect: strick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 90 21:03:32 +0100 From: Rainer Daeschler <agda001%CONVEX.ZDV.UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Flame on Symantec ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- > 6) Another call to the nearest dealer only worsened the problem: the cost > of the upgrade (which for THINK C is $69 in the US) is $250 in > Austria! There is no localization involved whatsoever so I simply > cannot understand where the large price-difference comes into play. This is not the only company doing that. It is hard to understand why software changes it price to that extend, just for a nationals release. For a word-processor, national modification are necessary, since the spellingchecker and the hyphenation-algorithm has to be changed. For a compiler it is rediciulus. The compiler has to tranlate into the machine-code for a motorola chip, not into Austrian German. If the software companies don't stop their distributors to ripp off their customers, the customers ripp off them, either by changing to another product or using the *only remaining way*. There quite a few software-companies who really encourage software-piracy as an act of self-defence. Even those, who are, inspite of over charging, ready to sign the cheque, will be happy to get their software through illegal international channels instead. I hope those of the software-companies out there *wakes up* now. Here is an advice for any software manufacturer and distributor don't charge higher prices for software in Europe than in the US. If you ripp off your customers, they 'll pay it back! (US-prices are no secret here, since europeans have electric light, use car and telephon, and read ENGLISH magazines) if sombody want's a new version or update from outside US, don't argue ---- just deliver! -Rainer -------------------------+------------------------------------- Rainer Daeschler | Telex.: 7-262867 utzv d Tuebingen University | Fax: (07071) 293989 Department of Japanese | Tel.: (07071) 296985 Studies | Wilhelmstr.90 | 7400 Tuebingen | INTERNET: Germany | agda001@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de -------------------------+------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 90 19:12:34 EST From: Frank Steele <FSTEELE@uga.cc.uga.edu> Subject: IIci and 6.0.7 causes copy problems? A friend is having trouble with a Mac IIci and his hard drive. The drive works perfectly except when he tries to copy something from a floppy disk onto the hard drive. Then it gets about halfway and freezes. Copying from the hard drive to the floppy works perfectly well. This symptom first turned up immediately after he installed Sys 6.07. A return to 6.05, however, has had no effect on the problem. Any help would be appreciated. Responses to: Frank Steele FSTEELE@UGA : Bitnet STEELE@athena.cs.uga.edu FrankST : America Online ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 14:24:57 PST From: marty@radarsun.jpl.nasa.gov (Marty Slade) Subject: IIfx & MacDrawII;Print Server Two questions for Cyberspace out there: MacDraw II seem to want an inordinate amount of memory in its MultiFInder partition before it will condescend to run. ANyone else notice this? The impatient users on our LocalTalk network want to know the status of their printing on the Print Server on our AppleShare fileserver. Is there any way that the info on the Spooler Queue window could be braodcast to any/everyone? (sorry for mistypings-this is 2nd try for posting this and the Outgoing file seems to have been munged) Marty Slade 818-354-2765 Any opinions expressed are my own and do not reflect official positions of Caltech or JPL. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 10:46:48 EST From: joan@cs.uri.edu (Joan Peckham) Subject: Japanese word processing I am trying to find out if there is some Japanese word processing software available for Macintosh PC's. Can you help? JOAN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 04:58 CDT From: Kyle Griffin -- Enthusiast <KG0041A@acad.drake.edu> Subject: Mac Classic Vs. SE & Expansion Slot In InfoMac Digest V8 #184, Harold Miller wrote: > This big question I have is: why didn't they put the slot in the > Classic like they had in the SE. Now, the Classic has NO expandability > (like the PLUS) and the price of buying an expandable Mac has just > doubled, at least. Why? According to the MacWorld of November 1990, the special newsstand edition in which they gave a sneak preview of the news Macs, they said this: "Because Apple found that 90 percent of current SE owners do not add boards, the Classic does not include a slot." Any questions? ******************************************************************************* Kyle Griffin No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity, Kg0041a@Drake But I know none, and therefore am no beast. Kg0041a@Acad.Drake.Edu -- Shakespeare ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 90 14:37:12 From: Pete Roberts <Pete_Roberts@qmlink.draper.com> Subject: Mac Database Toolkits? Subject: Time: 10:36 AM OFFICE MEMO Mac Database Toolkits? Date: 11/7/90 On main- and mini-frames database-development products are typically provided in the form of an engine and a toolkit of callable components with which developers create database applications. My question is, does such a product exist for strictly Macintosh-resident databases? We are interested in developing a database accessible in a concurrent fashion by 10 to 20 Mac users on an AppleTalk network. I am familiar with products such as 4th Dimension, Omnis 5, FoxBASE+/Mac and Double Helix, and know that the first two, at least, support native-code extensions in a manner analogous to HyperCard. But all seem to come bundled with a restriction that application development be done within a product-specific development environment. We would rather operate in native mode (meaning, for example, creating the application in a Think C environment), because the database is only a means to an end: the application is primarily involved with statistical analysis and remote process control. Thanks in advance for any guidance you may be able to give in this matter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 19:52:54 EST From: waldemar@ai.mit.edu (Waldemar Horwat) Subject: MacHack '91 Call for Papers Call for Papers MacHack '91 June 19 - 21, 1991 Ann Arbor, Michigan The MacHack '91 Proceedings Committee is soliciting papers for the sixth annual MacHack conference. The conference is a technical forum on the Macintosh computer and personal computing in general and includes programming, networking, operating system, tools, novice, business, and research tracks. Possible topics include, but are not limited to: Future Evolution of Personal Computing Object-Oriented Programming Parallel Processing Intelligent Applications Networking Simulation Graphics and Multimedia User Interface Research Case studies Project Development Legal Aspects of Computing Macintosh System 7.0 and beyond A/UX OS/2 and Windows 3.0 Macintosh Hardware and Cards International Programming Macintosh Languages and Tools Useful Algorithms and Hacks Hacking in the '90s Paper presenters will receive free conference registrations and special recognition. Please submit short abstracts (one page or less) by February 1, 1991. Papers are due by May 1, 1991. For more information contact: Waldemar Horwat, Proceedings Chairman or Carol Lynn, Expotech: Expotech, Inc. 1264 Bedford Rd. Grosse Pointe Park, MI 48230 313-882-1824 Internet: waldemar@hx.lcs.mit.edu, expotech@applelink.apple.com CIS: 72000,400 AppleLink, GEnie or MacNet: EXPOTECH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 90 12:19:20 PLT From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> Subject: NCSA Telnet via FTP The official site is ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- Joshua Yeidel YEIDEL@WSUVM1.BITNET Academic Computing Services YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu Washington State University (509) 335-0441 Pullman, WA 99164-1226 DISCLAIMER: I'm speaking solely for myself here, not Washington State U. -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 19:55:08 +0100 From: macbeth%netmbx%tmpmbx.UUCP@forsythe.stanford.edu (Andreas Pahl) Subject: Netware 2.15C Mac VAPS First, I'm not sure if it will work to install the Netware Internal Bridge with the econfig-card and the NE2000 with Appletalk. I doubt it. We recently made our internal bridge an external one. This was the big hit, since there are no more fights between PC-users and MAC-users, just in case there's something wrong with the vaps (and there was a LOT during the last year!). Now, with the external bridge, just reboot the bridge, and the sun will shine again. (this really is a big advantage: just imagine being between 100 PC-developers and 30 MAC-developers! Surviving is art!) Just install an external bridge using a 286 (a 8086 will work, but slowly when serving more than 10 users) with one network card (NE2000 e.g.), attach your servers (yes, it can be more than one!) to it, install your queues (if you own a appletalk card) AND LEAN BACK! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Raupach Network Manager VW-GEDAS Berlin, Germany Phone: +49 30 39007-629 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: **** Life's a bitch. Then you die. **** -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 90 11:28 H From: <VNG%NUSDISCS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: PC as appleshare server? Hi Netters Is there such a product that allows the PC to be used as an Appleshare server?? If there is can anyone kindly provide me with the Apple part number as well as some feedback on the product.. thank you. Vincent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 18:21:40 MST From: EPETERS%CSUGREEN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Printing PostSCript graphics from Word files Hello again: I would like to know if anyone has ever been successful in importing an encapsulated PostScript file into Word 4.0. The directions for importing such a file, modifying it, giving it the PostScript style and having it print successfully from within a Word document appear to work only if the EPSF file is from Adobe Illustrator. I know that there are different 'versions' of PostScript and that not all are equivalent (I have had similar problems with the SmartArt DA). What I would like to know is: a) is there an intermediate program that I can import FreeHand EPSF files into, which will export to a version of EPSF that Word can understand (I have not tried importing into Adobe Illustrator myself, as I and everyone I know hates it: we much prefer FreeHand), or b) does anyone know how to edit a FreeHand EPSF file so that it is printed correctly by Word? Thanks very much. I lust for your answers, and will summarize direct replies for the Digest. Eric * Eric L. Peters Voice: (303)491-5343 FAX: 491-0623 * * Dept. of Radiology & Radiation Biology BITNET: EPETERS@CSUGREEN * * Colorado State University INTERNET: EPETERS * * Fort Collins, CO 80523 CSUGREEN.UCC.COLOSTATE.EDU * ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 90 21:23:45 From: rhz@cwns4.ins.cwru.edu (Robert H. Zakon) Subject: Programming Q: How can I find out the current monitor settings on a Mac. I need to know if it's Grays or Colors and the depth. There's a TN that show how to SetDepth, but none that gets it. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert H. Zakon Case Western Reserve Univ. Internet: rhz@po.cwru.edu PS: Does your company do extensive work with Macs? Are they looking to hire a very knowledgeable (except for the above Q) Mac (and PC, workstation, oop, networking, ...) person? Please drop me a piece of e-mail w/ the USNail address where I can drop a resume. Thanks again. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 90 11:41:43 CST From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu> Subject: Screensaver crashes Like Murph Sewall (#184) I also suspected screensavers in most of my system crashes, tho' After Dark seemed relatively safe. A better solution has been devised by Michael Libes (Luni) whose modular screensaver Darkness is an application which runs in the background under MultiFinder (I forget whether it works in UniFinder). It appears to be very stable. It's in the archives, under App, I think. Graeme Forbes PL0BALF@TCSVM ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 90 04:33:05 GMT From: pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Paul "BigEars" Menon) Subject: SMALLTALK ON FX Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (T.I.U : KAZUYUKI KONKO) writes: > HELLO . > DOSE ANYONE KNOW THAT SMALLTALK(PARCPLACE) ON A FX(6.0.5) CAN RUNNING ? Yes. > 1. HOW MUCH MEMORIES DOSE IT NEED ? 5 MB at least is advisable (8M is good) > 2. HOW MUCH DISKS DOSE IT NEED ? Lots, the basic system is > 5.8 MB. Then comes "your" stuff. PS: This is for Objectworks/Smalltalk 2.5 - Objectworks\Smalltalk release 4.0 is "out", maybe you should look at that. Good Luck. Paul Menon, (Still waiting for release 4.0) Dept of Computer Science, Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 124 Latrobe Street, Melbourne 3001, Victoria, Australia. pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU PH: +61 3 660 3209 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 08:28 CST From: <MWW%TNTECH.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Michael W. Wheeler) Subject: Survey: ][ in a Mac I have a friend who has a MAC IIcx but also has A LOT of Apple ][e software which he would like to run on his Mac. He doesn't have the money to buy a Mac LC with the ][e emulation card. So he is really hoping that a software package from COMPUTER:applications,Inc. called ][ in a Mac $149.95 (An Apple ][e emulator that is all software) will do the trick for him. Does anyone have any experience with this software good or bad? Even if you've had no direct experience but have heard about the package either good or bad I would like to hear about it. So let me know and I will submit a summary or report to the net if I get any responses. Michael W. Wheeler (Bitnet: mww@tntech) VAX/VMS Systems Support Specialist Tennessee Technological University Box 5071 Cookeville, TN 38505 (615) 372-3977 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 90 14:28:00 EST From: Jason <jblue@mwunix.mitre.org> Subject: Thank you (WAS: HyperCard 2.0 and Netnews Reader) Thanks go to George F Tempel, Eric Meininger, Bruce Carter, Graeme Forbes, Harold Miller, Craig Prall, Tony Lim, Charles Hawkins, and Mingo n Hancock. All of them responded to my request regarding Netnews Reader not working in HC 2.0. Special thanks go to Craig Prall, who put me on the right track when he suggested that some "garbage characters" entered the stack. For others who find that Netnews Reader does not work properly in HC 2.0 you must first give yourself scripting privileges (as described many times in the past few digests) and perform the following changes to the script: 1. In the call for closeStack (on closeStack), the line Shall I compact it for you?","Yes","No") is missing a double quote at the beginning. 2. In the function spareseremove, the last "end if..." line end if - we're in the range of the vector is missing a second hypen to properly comment the comment on that line. After performing the two changes the stack works fine in HyperCard 2.0. Any comments are appreciated. =From the desk of: *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= * Jason D. Blue = User Services * = User Support Center Specialist * The MITRE Corporation = * jblue@mwunix.mitre.org = 703-883-7999 * =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Disclaimer: The views expressed above are my own and do not reflect the position of my employer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 90 21:41:51 EST From: Pete Tamas <V5296E%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Think C 4.02 upgrader prog Stark Raving mentioned a a Think C 4.0 updater being on info-mac. I could not find it. Where should I be looking? What is AOL? Can you send me a copy? Will Stark cough up the goods, or will his sidekick Greg Trimper save the day? Acknowledge-To: <V5296E@TEMPLEVM> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 12:37:23 CST From: strick@slcs.slb.com (Don Strickland) Subject: ufFile() in HyperTalk 2.0 Here's a simple function that makes it easy to request a filename for reading or writing using HyperTalk 2.0. I personally don't understand why Apple chose to use two different commands. function ufFile io, prompt, nameType -- by Don W Strickland -- HyperCard 2.0 required -- io ....... (i)nput or (o)utput filename requested -- prompt ... tell the user what's going on -- nameType . either the file TYPE (input) or default NAME (output) if io is "G" then if nameType is EMPTY then put "TEXT" into nameType if prompt is EMPTY then put "Open '" & nameType & "' file ..." into prompt answer file prompt of type nameType else if nameType is EMPTY then put "untitled" into nameType if prompt is EMPTY then put "Save as ..." into prompt ask file prompt with nameType end if return it end ufFile -- example useage on example -- this line will prompt the user to select a TEXT file for reading put ufFile("G","Open a TEXT file ...","TEXT") -- this line will prompt the user to name a file for Writing put ufFile("P","Save as ...","My Report") end example Don W Strickland Internet: strick@slcs.slb.com Compuserve: 70531,2666 Austin, Texas AppleLink: N1090 Schlumberger Lab for Computer Science Connect: strick ------------------------------ Date: 9 Nov 90 14:04:28 From: Pete Roberts <Pete_Roberts@qmlink.draper.com> Subject: V8 #185- Callback Entrypoin Subject: Time: 10:36 AM OFFICE MEMO V8 #185: Callback Entrypoints? Date: 11/7/90 I received an informative reply very quickly to my question in InfoMac #185 concerning how the callback entrypoint mechanism might be implemented when the extensions doing the callbacks are separately compiled and linked. The reply is given below. -- Pete Roberts --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know know about the others, but HyperCard at any rate passes the callback address in the paramblock it hands to the XCMD/XFCN. The glue code that you link with (SendHCMessgae et al) uses this to call HC functions. If you peruse an early version of "HyperXCmd.h" (or its Pascal equivalent), all will be clear. The latest MPW releases have the glue already compiled (assembled?) as an obj file, but the earlier HC interfaces had them as inline code in the header file. Best regards -- Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited uucp: ...!ukc!nan!sw other: sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk phone: (+44) 203 419996 telex: 9312130355 (SW G) snail: 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************