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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 13 Nov 90 Volume 8 : Issue 189 Today's Topics: [*] gatekeeper-aid-11.hqx Ada for the Mac a disk cataloger util A Great Ski Resort Database Anatomy Stacks Array boundaries in Think C Cataloging Art Child's (Learning) Games Color Icons on Mac Converting Postsript to EPS CRC on Mac Database engines for Mac Database software and labels How long How to access the modem port for MIDI data? HyperCard random function? Importing FreeHand EPSF files into Word 4.0: The solution (?) Info request about two-pages display Installing keyboard resources internal drive LaserWriter NTX Memory Upgrades Mac Classic (2 msgs) Need CD-ROM Help! need database for photo-journalism Network switching Portable Memory/Modem upgrades Retrospect & WangDAT info wanted save Shut Down init/cdev wanted. set paths author Telnet crashes Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 10:45:30 -0600 From: chrisj@emx.utexas.edu (Chris Johnson) Subject: [*] gatekeeper-aid-11.hqx Gatekeeper Aid 1.1 (c) 1990 by Chris Johnson Gatekeeper Aid is a complement to version 1.1.1 of the Gatekeeper Anti-Virus INIT/CDEV, because GateKeeper was not effective in stopping the WDEF and MDEF C viruses (which arrived on the scene after its release). Gatekeeper Aid was also designed to attempt the interception of possible mutations of several viruses. Gatekeeper Aid automatically checks all files (not just Desktop files) as they are used for the presence of specific viruses and removes them automagically. Gatekeeper need NOT be installed to use Gatekeeper Aid. It can also be used to complement John Norstad's excellent Disinfectant INIT, or other anti-virus programs that may lack the ability to remove WDEF, CDEF or MDEF infections. Gatekeeper Aid 1.1 incorporates a retroactive fix for a conflict between Gatekeeper and System 6.0.7. This conflict manifests itself as Res(Sys) privilege violations (this conflict becomes apparent when the ImageWriter printer is chosen and applications are executed under Finder, rather than MultiFinder). This was a side-effect of an unexpected change in Mac OS 6.0.7 and not a bug in GateKeeper. Chris (Johnson) chrisj@emx.utexas.edu [Archived as /info-mac/virus/gatekeeper-aid-11.hqx; 55K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 13:39 EDT From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Ada for the Mac The Summer APDAlog lists AdaVantage Mac Professional Developer Kit, from Meridian Software Systems, Inc., part number T0274LL/A, for $1700.00. Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET Apple Support Manager Indiana University of Pennsylvania "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 21:31:55 EST From: deal@heyl.kzoo.edu Subject: a disk cataloger util I have accumulated far too many boxes of Mac disks to manage efficiently. Under the old MacIntosh MFS system, there was a disk catalog program that would allow one to push disk after disk into the floppy slot and build up a catalog with several search strategies which made life with too many disks much easier. Does anyone have any recommendations for a comparable program that will run on an SE and a IIci? Desperately, Ralph M. Deal Chemistry & Computer Science Kalamazoo College Kalamazoo, MI 49007 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:18:13 PST From: PUGH%CCV.ESNET@ccc.nersc.gov Subject: A Great Ski Resort Database It's almost ski season, if you haven't noticed. If you are interested in a Hypercard database of western North American ski resorts (where else is there to ski?), drop me a line. I am interested in selling my stacks for a measly $30 (less than the price of a lift ticket). The database contains statistics on each resort, a map of where it is, and a trail map of the resort. It is almost 700K of information on 68 resorts with 51 trail maps. I have done this as an aid to my own ski vacations but I need to create some revenue with it so I can go skiing. Drop me a line for more information. Jon Pugh (415) 423-4239 (415) 373-7872 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 16:16:29 EST From: Jeff Ersoff <jae@uncecs.edu> Subject: Anatomy Stacks For an EYEFULL check out the Ocular Anatomy Tutor. Available from Intellimation Library for the Macintosh Dept. XA 130 Cremona Drive P.O. Box 1922 Santa Barbara, CA 93116 Phone is 1-800-3-INTELL It is described as " a hypercard-based tutorial...with detailed graphics of the anatomy of the eye." Cost is $25. I have not seen it. This company appears to have taken over the old line of low cost academic software previously carried by Kinko's. -- Jeff Ersoff Math & Computer Sci., Salem College, Winston-Salem, NC 27108 USENET: jae@ecsvax ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 13:23 EDT From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Array boundaries in Think C Chris Jones writes: >What kinds of interesting ways can a person employ to get around that nasty >32767 byte limit that C has? I need an array of not less than 65536 cells, >or the equivalent. I would like to be able to do it without allocating memory >& storing/manipulating all that manually. any ideas? C, including Think C 4.0, does not have a 32K limit on arrays; I presume you are talking about the fact that Think C won't let you have a static/global array that big. Fortunately, pointers and arrays can be interchangeable in C, if you know what you are doing. Consider the following program, which I compiled and ran in Think C 4.0 with no errors: #include <stdio.h> main() { int *p; p = (int *)NewPtr(65536 * sizeof(int)); p[16384] = -19; printf("The number is %d.\n\n", *(p+16384)); DisposPtr(p); } Yes, you have to allocate and dispose of memory before and after you use the array, but at least you can use the somewhat more intuitive array notation while the array is active. Just remember never to change the value of "p" (or whatever you name your array variable); "p = 0" will cause your array to vanish into the bowels of Mac memory, leaving a non-relocatable, non-disposable block stuck on the heap, waiting to cause you headaches. Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET Apple Support Manager Indiana University of Pennsylvania "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 08:52:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Timothy J. Anderson" <ta10+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Cataloging Art For serious curatorial or archival purposes, one would almost certainly want a relational database. At our University Archives we use 4th Dimension, which serves us well. It can handle a graphic field(s). Since we adopted 4d, Filemaker has gone relational. It is easier to use, so I would give it a close look if I were to be starting now. Tim Anderson Arts Library Specialist University Libraries Carnegie Mellon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 10:06:44 WUT From: Alfred Nagl <NAGL@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> Subject: Child's (Learning) Games Hi| I'm looking for my 7 year old daughter for games, preferably ones which have some learning effect (reading, writing etc.) and could be transferred into german. many thanks Alfred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 16:12:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Jeffrey T. Oplinger" <jo1m+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Color Icons on Mac Well, whatever the problem was with editing ICL4's and 8's with ResEdit 2.0b1 seems to be absent in ResEdit 2.1b3. In addition, the user interface seems much nicer. I just looked at the dialog creation tools and they really look nice, and really help with things like figuring out which item is number whatever and reordering items. Anyway, thanks to all that responded... -- Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 20:56:02 PST From: Scott_McLagan@cc.sfu.ca Subject: Converting Postsript to EPS I've got a Postscript file that was created with the CMD-F print to disk option. I want to place it into a PageMaker document, so I modified the code so that it would be interpreted as an EPS file (defined a bounding box, etc). Pagemaker now allows me to place the file (it shows the EPS cursor and the image as a grey place-holder box). However, it won't let me scale the graphic up or down. Anyone know of a solution? Or, failing that, a utility which will take a regular Postscipt file and create a proper EPS file including a scalable screen image? I'll post a summary. Thanks a mil. Scott McLagan USERNBSN@CC.SFU.CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 12:03:46 PST From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca Subject: CRC on Mac >In contrast, Word's output has an uneven "typical Mac look", not at >all like a hand-set book etc. Besides turning on Fractional Widths, you can get *much* improved spacing for bold, italic, and bolditalic type by installing the Adobe screen fonts for all your LaserWriter fonts. The Adobe screen fonts improve spacing in other areas as well, such as the line spacing of the symbol font. Placing a Word document in PageMaker will improve readability further because fractional widths are always used in PM, kerning and tracking adjustments are available, and it has better hyphenation control than Word. PS. Why is the subject "CRC on Mac"? Does CRC stand for something other than Cyclic Redundancy Check? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 13:50 EDT From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Database engines for Mac Shana Corporation makes a high-end database engine called Inside Out. It is supplied as linkable object code for Pascal (MPW, Think, Turbo) and C (MPW and Think). Supports multi-user databases, and redefinition of files, fields, and keys, even after data has been entered. Faircom Corp. makes a similar product called c-tree for use with C programming languages and is royalty-free. Faircom's number is (314) 445-6833, and Shana's is (403) 463-3330. The above information I found in the March 1990 issue of MacTutor. I have no connection with either company, and haven't used either product, so I can't make any recommendations either way. Just wanted you to know they are out there. Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET Apple Support Manager Indiana University of Pennsylvania "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 07:41:00 LCL From: ESMITH@suvm Subject: Database software and labels Is anyone aware of and database software for the Mac that would allow me to sort on various defined fields, create merged lists from this information, and also produce labels? I have a list of people I'd like to send a form letter to and also use the same information base to create mailing labels from. Any help would be greatly appreciated! As Always, Gene ESMITH@SUVM (BITNET) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 09:39:04 cst From: scott@huntsai.boeing.com (Scott Hinckley) Subject: How long I have found that you can keep track of time spent in an application without spending more money on software/hardware. 1) Choose the clock DA 2) Write down the current time 3) Run the application 4) Repeat steps 1&2 5) calculate the difference between 2&4 But, seriously, what are you doing that makes this not a good method? --- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott Hinckley |DISCLAIMER: All contained herein are my opinions scott@huntsai.boeing.com |they do not represent the opinions or feelings VW & Apple// Forever!!! |of Boeing or its management. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 15:50 N From: <PURSCHKE%DMSWWU5P.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: How to access the modem port for MIDI data? Hi all, I want to transmit MIDI data through the modem port to a synth. I have an Altec MIDI interface and use Mastertracks Pro for sequencing and other things. Now I want to write a small program on my own and need to know how to access the modem port. I understand that without the MIDI Manager I have to talk to the hardware directly to set up the port properly, but could not find any information how to do it. Who has already written some routines that set up the port and transmit Midi data and is willing to explain and/or send me the routine or who knows where to get information about the port internals? I am a C programmer but know my way through 68000 assembler so any information is welcome. Thanks Martin Purschke@dmswwu5p.bitnet University of Muenster, Germany ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 09:51:03 EST From: radin@ctc.contel.com (Dean Radin x4479) Subject: HyperCard random function? Does anyone know how the pseudorandom number generator works in HyperCard? Is it a shift-register function? An algorithm of the multiplicative congruential type? Is the function seeded only once when you launch HyperCard, or can it be reseeded while HyperCard is running? Is it possible to rerun the same random sequence (which is useful for simulation studies)? Dean Radin Contel Technology Center Chantilly, VA radin@ctc.contel.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:35:50 MST From: EPETERS%CSUGREEN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Importing FreeHand EPSF files into Word 4.0: The solution (?) Hello again: I have received several replies in response to my request for information as to how to incorporate EPSF files from Aldus FreeHand into Word. Most suggested that I select the FreeHand graphic and then use the copy command with the 'Option' key held down to convert the graphic. Unfortunately, I neglected to mention in my original posting that I had already tried this, and it didn't work (at least not with the FreeHand graphic I tried it on, which contained a TIFF file). After some further experimentation, I have (finally) come up with a technique that does appear to work. Here is the procedure I used: 1) Create the graphic using Aldus FreeHand. This graphic CAN contain a TIFF file as part of the illustration. 2) Use Freehand's 'Export' command to save the illustration as an EPSF file. If your illustration is a complex one (e.g., containing a large TIFF image), you may run out of memory in attempting to do this (see below). 3) Open a new FreeHand document (not necessary, but closing the original FreeHand document first saves memory), and use the 'Place' command to open the EPSF file you have just created. 4) If the EPSF image is not already selected, select it by clicking on it. While holding the option key down, use the 'Copy' command (or 'Command-Option-C' for the dextrous) to convert the image for the Clipboard. 5) Quit from FreeHand and load your Word document. Position the insertion point at the part of the document where you would like your graphic to be, then use the 'Paste' command. That's it! Note that export of the FreeHand file into an intermediate EPSF file appears to be a required step: direct conversion of the Freehand using the 'Option-copy' technique does NOT work! This is what I had tried before, and although the illustration appeared to convert correctly, Word just beeped at me and cleared the clipboard when I tried to paste. Some additional observations/comments: In some cases, FreeHand will notify you that there is insufficient memory to create a PICT resource for the PostScript file. There is also an undocumented bug in FreeHand (that I discovered earlier this year) that occurs when memory is very limited (e.g. when running under MultiFinder), in which the image appears to export successfully, but is missing the PICT resource. This will result in the EPSF file showing a blank illustration when it is imported, and the image will not paste successfully into Word, since it will not occupy space in the document. In addition, this bug will cause your PostScript images to not appear when you export them to some film recorders that read PICT files. The solution appears to be to do this conversion when running FreeHand under UniFinder, and you may wish to turn off your memory-hogging INITs (using INITPicker, I just rebooted the Mac while holding the Command Key down). The resulting Word document is rather large, but in my case, the Word file was not appreciably larger than the total amount of disc space occupied by the original FreeHand file together with the separate TIFF file used in the FreeHand image. There was also a slight, but not very noticable degradation in the quality of embedded TIFF file. This may be more or less of a problem when including scans using more gray levels (I used 16 shades of gray in mine). I do not know what effect the presence of color in the FreeHand document may have on the above results. I would like to thank Bruce Long, John Wilkins, Kent Boortz, Jeffrey Hallett and Les Ferch for taking the time to reply to my earlier request. I appreciate it, you guys! Eric * Eric L. Peters Voice: (303) 491-5343 FAX: 491-0623 * * Dept. of Radiology & Radiation Biology BITNET: EPETERS@CSUGREEN * * Colorado State University INTERNET: EPETERS@ * * Fort Collins, CO 80523 CSUGREEN.UCC.COLOSTATE.EDU * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 NOV 90 09:21 N From: "MARCO RONCHETTI - DIPARTIMENTO DI FI..." <RONCHETTI%ITNVAX.CINECA.IT@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: Info request about two-pages display hello everybody, can anyone send me informations about two-pages b/w or grayscale monitors for a mac SE/30 or mac IIxx? (e.g. Nutmeg, Cutting Edge, Mirror, Radius, Sigma...) Any satisfied/unsatisfied user out there? Please answer directly to me, I'll summarize for the net. Thanks Marco Ronchetti ronchetti@itnvax.decnet ronchett@itncisca.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 90 22:18 GMT From: NEOSCRIBE@applelink.apple.com (NeoScribe Int'l Mktg, M Ross,PRT) Subject: Installing keyboard resources Subject: Copying resources >>I am creating a new keyboard configuration using Resedit. I can copy this new >>resource with Resedit into the system & access it through the control panel. >>What I wish to do is have the end users install it with something less >>dangerous than Resedit. Any suggestions? Is there a PD/shareware resource >>mover? You can procede in two ways: 1) Write an Installer script to install the KCHR and SICN resources to a System file. (Installer is Apple's application that installs the System.) ResEdit 2.0b2 has templates for this but it is best to have the complete documentation on writing. This comes in two parts: - A Scriptwriters Guide to Installer 3.0 - Technical Reference for Writing Installer Scripts 2) If you install the KCHR and SICN resources for your new keyboard configuration into a Font/DA Mover document and open it under a font-management program such as Suitcase II, those resources will load into memory and appear in the Keyboard control panel as if they had been installed with ResEdit. By the way, ResEdit isn't dangerous. People are dangerous. Good luck! Michael Ross NeoScribe International Inc neoscribe@applelink.apple.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 10:39:46 +0100 From: adam%TNOAL1.TNO.NL@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: internal drive Hello Wai and others, I have disconnected my internal 800K floppydrive from my Plus, and connected a somewhat longer flatcable and DB connector to it, to be able to use the floppydrive on my 512K Mac. At that time the 512 did not have a HD yet. All went well with the 512, but the Plus... It simply refuses to boot from my CDC Wren-III harddisk UNTIL...... the floppydrive is connected again. I am not sure the same things happen on a 'standard' Apple HD, but I don't expect that will make any difference. Now I have the drive (which is still located INSIDE the Plus) connected to the external floppydrive port, and all works well. So, for some reason it needs a floppydrive, which may be a 400K drive as well. I hope someone has invented a workaround for this, and if so... Please tell us! Regards, __ / / / /-/ __/ __/ ____ / / (_/ (_/ / / / +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Please send your reply to: |Where |Mac |Software | |-----------------------------------------+-------+-----+----------| |TNO ZP-LAN:adam@tnoal1 (134.221.128.128)|office |SE |NCSATelnet| | internet:adam@tnoal1.tno.nl | same |same | same | | or:pa2aga@tnoal1.tno.nl | same |same | same | | bitnet:gaalen@hdetno51.bitnet | same |same |DynaComm | | Ham-radio:pa2aga@pa2aga (44.137.32.9) |at home|Plus |NET/Mac | | or:pa2aga@pa2aga-2 (44.137.32.19)|at home|512Ke|NET/Mac | | or:pa2aga@pi8mac (44.137.32.22)|at home|SE/30|NET/Mac | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 10:54:42 PST From: PUGH%CCV.ESNET@ccc.nersc.gov Subject: LaserWriter NTX Memory Upgrades I am thinking about upgrading my Laserwriter II NTX's memory. I scoured the Technical Notes and found the one which talked about all models of Macintosh, but it made no reference to upgrading your Laserwriter. What SIMMs ship with the NTX and what configurations are supported? Needless to say, I want to beef it up to the maximum allowable. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 90 23:34:01 PST From: 6600patb%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Pat Breitenbach) Subject: Mac Classic In comp.sys.mac.digest you write: >> I have purchased a simple Classic with a single floppy drive recently. >> What really surprised me is that the machine has a fan inside while the >> Mac+ does not have one. Is it possible to disconnect the fan so as to >> get a really silent machine ? A Plus doesn't have a fan because you can't put a hard drive in it. If you have a hard drive (which I hope you do), it would be extremely unwise to disconnect the fan. -Patrick Internet: 6600patb@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 90 21:52 CST From: SAWATZKYJ%sask.usask.ca@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Mac Classic Hi, those of you with a Classic try holding down cmd-opt-X-O on startup. If you wait long enough the mac will boot off an internal ROM disk (System 6.03/Finder 6.1x). Then if you use a utility that lets you see invisible folders (ie. ResEdit) you will see an invisible folder in the ROM disk's system folder that lists those who worked on the Classic. Neat. Note: For this to work you must be sure your hard disk is not a startup volume. Simply dragging the Finder file out of the system folder should work for you. Brad Sawatzky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 05:01:46 -0500 From: Lonewolf <wahl-e@cis.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Need CD-ROM Help! Help! My CD-ROM Driver has been corupted, and the original is also. The Company I bought it from is less than helpful. I have a Toshiba XM-3201A that is fairly new, but the software was fragged by my FDHD. If someone out there with this drive could stuff and send me a copy, I would be appreciatitive. P.S. Where can I get a new FDHD drive head cheap? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 09:46:47 -0600 From: carlsonb@acc.stolaf.edu Subject: need database for photo-journalism The News office I work in recently upgraded to Macs (we still don't know what we're doing). We process about 100 photographs/day, and need a relational database to catalog them. Since the data are photographs, a database which supports scanned images or some encryption thereof would be helpful, as well as one whose data would be available across an Appletalk net. Suggestions/descriptions by others faced with similar plights will be much appreciated. Send to:carlsonb@thor.acc.stolaf.edu ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 90 10:41:00 EST From: fosterr@ucs.indiana.edu Subject: Network switching We have a small TOPS network in our office. One of our Macs (a IIcx if it makes any difference) also has an Ethernet card that can be used to connect to other Appletalk zones on campus via Ethertalk. We currently use the Network cdev to change from one to the other, but this requires rebooting the machine. My question: Is there any way to switch networks from Localtalk (for TOPS) to Ethertalk (for campus Appletalk zones) without having to reboot the machine? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Ray Foster Learning Resources Center Bitnet: fosterr@iubacs Indiana University Internet: fosterr@ucs.indiana.edu Bloomington IN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 11:41 CST From: <PT1811S%DRAKE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Portable Memory/Modem upgrades I have a Mac Portable and am going to be adding memory and a modem to it. Apple has a solution that will bring my memory up to 2 meg and a 2400 baud modem. This solution will cost more than $650 dollars. I am considering a 3 meg upgrade (total 4 meg) from Technology Works. Currently they are including a FREE 2400 baud internal modem with Fax capabilities with the purchase. Cost: $945.00. Request: Does anyone have experience, preferences, or opinions about any of the third party or Apple upgrades for the Portalbe? Please E-Mail me directly and I will summarize to the net. Thanks in advance... Paul Thibodeau Senior Consultant, Drake University Bitnet: PT1811S@DRAKE Internet: PT1811S@ACAD.DRAKE.edu Phone: 515-271-3040 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 11:02:10 EST From: Francis Taylor <narf@media-lab.media.mit.edu> Subject: Retrospect & WangDAT info wanted Our company is looking into getting Retrospect and a WangDAT for unattended network backup. Anybody have any good/bad experiences? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 90 06:22:47 GMT From: lin@diemen.utas.edu.au (Tony Lim) Subject: save Shut Down init/cdev wanted. Hi, all! I am using one RAM Software to create RAM disk on my 2.5M Mac+. I want to know if there are any INIT/CDEVs which will compare the files in the RAM Disk when I want to Restart/Shut Down to those at startUp. If the files are modified, I would be warned before the Mac shuts down. Can any one tell me if such toys are avaiable? Or any smart netters want to create one? Thank you very much in advance. --Tony ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 90 11:41:27 From: Rick Jarvis <Rick_Jarvis.MATH_ONE@quickmail.clemson.edu> Subject: set paths author set paths author Does anyone know if the address for Paul Snively (set paths author) is still Park Lodge Ct. in Indianapolis? I would like to send the shareware fee. Thanks. Rick Jarvis, Clemson University, jpjrv@clemson.clemson.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 12:00:41 EST From: Patrick Bray <bray@think.com> Subject: Telnet crashes Hi! We are having a peculiar problem here with a Mac IIcx using NCSA Telnet to connect to a Sun 4/490 and I am interested to know if anyone else has seen similar problems. The Mac has system 6.0.4, finder 6.1.4, NCSA Telnet 2.4 beta MacTCP (2.3 and 2.3 MacTCP have also been tried) and 5 Megs of memory. The Mac will connect to the 4/490 without any problem (through a Cayman GatorCard), but will eventually hang (3 or 4 times a day). This is the only machine that the Mac hangs on (we have approx 200 Macs telnetting to a variety of Suns and Vaxen via Cayman GatorBoxes and Ethernet cards) and it is the only Mac trying to connect to a 4/490. There are no INITS or CDEVS that aren't being used in other Macs without problems. The problem seems particular to a Sun 4/490. Does anyone else out there use NCSA Telnet to connect to a Sun 4/490? Anyone heard of a similar problem before? Thanks! _____________________________________________________________________ Patrick Bray Phone: (617) 876-1111 x 2112 Thinking Machines Corporation Fax: (617) 876-1823 245 First Street E-Mail: bray@think.com Cambridge, MA 02142-1214 --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************