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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 20 Nov 90 Volume 8 : Issue 193 Today's Topics: Apple Internet Router Apple responsiveness Array boundaries in C BinHex4 specs Buying Macs CalComp phone number Code Resources and Windows Expanse SE/30 fastpath vs gatorbox help with dead CMS drive How to install a PICT resource in a PICT file? INIT Interference with HC 2.0 location of UNADOBE Mac <--> IBM doings... Multifinder Problem? NEW MAC GAMES ??? New ZUC Virus Prolog and Lisp for the Mac (2 msgs) Re: Flame on Symantec Report on Text Editors Running Remote Process ... Securing Laserwriters seeking a file compare utility Solution to 8/24 NTSC problem Video stills Word Processor Filters/Translators X11 Bitmaps Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 08:22:49 SET From: Guenther Blaschek <K331671%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Apple Internet Router Kee Nethery mentioned the Apple Internet Router in digest #191. I have never heard of this product before; ist it part of Apple`s system software, or is it sold seperately as a commercial product. In other words: is it free or not? If it is publicly available, could someone e-mail this utility to me? If not, where can I get it from? Thanks in advance e Guenther Blaschek gu EMail: <K331671@AEARN> SNail: University of Linz / Austria Institute of Computer Science / Software Altenbergerstr. 69 A-4040 Linz Tel.: +43 (732) 2468 / 447 Fax: +43 (732) 2468 / 10 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 14:55:19 +0800 From: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu Subject: Apple responsiveness Greetings all, There have been several comments lately about the lack of responsiveness from Apple, particularly the HyperCard Development Team. I just wanted to say that this has not been the case in my experience. I have received fast, sometimes immediate response from the team on almost all occasions (just before release time should be an excused exception). In particular, Steve Maller, Sandy (Binky) Melnik, and Kevin Calhoun (forgive me if I butchered Kevin's last name, I don't have my HyperCard file handy) have given me excellent response, advice, and workarounds for any problems I have reported as well as help with programming questions. Several others on the team have been helpful as well, it just seems like I call on Steve, Sandy, and Kevin the most. I'm not denying that other people have not received this sort of response, but I thought that someone should pipe up for the other side. By the way, I am not a partner or a certified whoozit or anything, just a typical University staff member. I am a member of APDA, but I don't think that pulls a great deal of weight. Bruce Carter, Courseware Development Coordinator Lab: (208) 385-1859 Faculty Development Lab - Room 213 Office: (208) 385-1250 Simplot/Micron Technology Center CompuServe ID: 76666,511 Boise State University CREN (BITNET): duscarte@idbsu 1910 University Drive Internet: duscarte@idbsu.idbsu.edu Boise, ID 83725 --> Preferred: bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 17:07:56 EST From: lti2!reg@lti.uucp (Rick Genter x18) Subject: Array boundaries in C Jeff Austen writes: > > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 90 10:52:03 LCL > > From: Michael Perrone <A2MP%PSUORVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> > > Subject: Array boundaries in C (think C, V4) > > > > Is not a "C" problem, it's inherent in the MC 680x0 architecture. > > .... > This problem is NOT inherent in the 680x0 architecture. The 680x0 This is arguable. True, the 680x0 has 32-bit registers through out, and uses all 32-bits when computing addresses. However, the displacement in a base- displacement or base-index-displacement address is limited to 16 bits on the 68000, 68008 and 68010. Since all Macs < II use the 68000, it is understandable that the compiler writers limit arrays to 16-bit displacements (you don't want to have to reserve a register and load it with a value just to address the array, and I can see where special case code for determining how to index the array could get quite ugly). I believe the 68020 removed the restriction, introducing a "base-long displacement" addressing mode. I'd be curious if Think C, when told to generate 68020 code, made use of this mode. I suspect not... - reg --- Rick Genter reg%lti.uucp@bu.edu Language Technology, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 90 11:24:10 +0000 From: Z.Wang@cs.ucl.ac.uk Subject: BinHex4 specs Does anyone know a public domain package of encoding and decoding of BinHex4 files? Or does anyone know where I could find the spec of BinHex4? Thanks in advance Zheng ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 09:25 EST From: <MACLAB%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Buying Macs After having numerous questions on the purchase of a Classic 2/40, let me make one comment. I, along with theother reps that I know, were told that b/c of the huge number of Classics that were ordered, the machines will not ship for close to 9 or 10 weeks. Because of this, we were told to start taking orders for the LC, since it would arrive about a week after an LC if both were ordered today. bill maclab@vuvaxcom ST0666@applelink.apple.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 21:10:55 PST From: eddie@csa1.lbl.gov (MAD SCIENTISTS FOR A BRIGHTER TOMORROW: JACKED INTO THE INTERNET MATRIX) Subject: CalComp phone number CalComp's phone number is 408.980.7608 EJM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 23:29:02 PST From: eddie@csa1.lbl.gov (MAD SCIENTISTS FOR A BRIGHTER TOMORROW: JACKED INTO THE INTERNET MATRIX) Subject: Code Resources and Windows Howdy, I need some help. I'm still looking for a way to open a window from within a code resource using Think C (v4.0). Every time I call NewWindow(args...) the application quits with a system error message of (1). I'm working on a II/fx. I think there are problems because the quickdraw globals are not known to a code resource (the Think C manual mentions this but does not elaborate). I even tried calling InitGraf() from within the code resource but the system crashes of course. Remember, the Application is a commercial one that I am adding to, so I cannot pass anything special to my code resource. I need Help! Please respond to EJMOLER@LBL.GOV and I will send a final solution (should there be one) to the digest. Thanks in advance, Eddie Moler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 04:24:03 PST From: @cunyvm.cuny.edu:FACN056@SAUPM00.BITNET Subject: Expanse SE/30 I would appreciate hearing from anyone with experience in using Second Wave's expansion chasses, especially the one designed to provide 4 NuBus slots on the SE/30. Does this thing _really_ work? ------------------------------ Date: 20 Nov 90 14:28:25 From: Rick Jarvis <Rick_Jarvis.MATH_ONE@quickmail.clemson.edu> Subject: fastpath vs gatorbox fastpath vs gatorbox We have an upgraded Fastpath 2 used as a gateway between our Appletalk network and the campus Ethernet backbone. The gateway is loaded with the KIP software for TCP/IP support. CAP is being used to print from our Sun server to AppleTalk Laserwriters. During the past 3 months, the gateway has locked up 5-10 times. Sometimes cycling the power brings it up; other times require disconnecting the Fastpath from ethernet, cycling the power, and reconnecting the ethernet connection after the gateway is recognized by the Fastpath manager software. I have three questions: (1) has anyone seen similar problems or have any suggestions about how to avoid them? (2) We can upgrade the Fastpath 2 to a Fastpath 4 or trade it in for a Gatorbox for about the same money. Any suggestions as to the preferred route. Another alternative is to exchange the Fastpath 2 for an Ethergate. (3) CAP can be used with both the Fastpath and the Gatorbox. Is Gatorprint a better alternative? Is Ethergate and K-spool a better alternative for Sun to printing? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rick Jarvis, Math Sciences, Clemson Univ, jpjrv@clemson.clemson.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 01:44:01 -0500 (EST) From: Wai Sung Kok <wk0t+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: help with dead CMS drive hello, I have got a real problem down here, I got a 20M CMS drive that is "ghosting", it would boot up for one or two minutes, then disappear from the desktop, I try to install a new SCSI driver but that fail too, the error message was failure in the SCSI write command. my guess would be a bad solder joint that lose contact when the drive heats up, if that is the case, then I just got a new door stop. anyone got a clue as to what is going on. thanks best regards -wai ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 17:19:50 EST From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: How to install a PICT resource in a PICT file? I've used Mandelzot to create and save a nice PICT file of a Mandelbrot set pattern. I'd like to use DeckPict to make it a desktop backdrop. DeckPict says it needs a PICT file with a PICT ID=0. ResEdit indicates that the saved PICT file has no resource fork (and offers to add one). The question is how to I get ResEdit to add a PICT resource with ID=0? /s Murph <Sewall%UConnVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.Edu> [Internet] or ...{psuvax1 or mcvax}!uconnvm.bitnet!sewall [UUCP] + Standard disclaimer applies ("The opinions expressed are my own" etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 10:19:12 PST From: Tom Lincoln <lincoln%iris@rand.org> Subject: INIT Interference with HC 2.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 09:20:39 PST >From: Fred Feer <feerfs@monty> I have identified an INIT that was preventing Hypercard 2.0 cards being displayed on screen. The offender is WindChooser 1.12 copyright 1989 by Pete Gontier. If anyone knows how to get in touch with Pete Gontier of if there is a later version of the INIT I would appreciate knowing because I have found this one very nice to have. WindChooser gives you a choice of four window styles. The one I prefer is Alex's Shrinker. It has two zoom boxes in the upper right corner. Clicking on the left one reduces the window to the size of an icon at the bottom of the screen. It helps control clutter when using multi-finder. Fred ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 90 09:10:00 EST From: "Zukerman Class Account" <bist1@guvax.georgetown.edu> Subject: location of UNADOBE Can anyone help me locate a PD or shareware program called "UNADOBE"? It is an application for converting Adobe printer fonts in Mac format to text files. Thanks in advance. Robb Wolov ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 02:03:36 -0500 From: fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu Subject: Mac <--> IBM doings... Hello people(s), This is a two part-part post: First, can somebody please send me a list of all the emulators for the Mac that will let it behave like an MS-DOS(Messy_dos) machine (I know, I'm a masochist!). I know that SoftPC exists but I believe there are others. Second, (this is to those in mixed environments) is it possible for a Mac using a PC emulator to access an ARCnet based (Novell, 3Com, et. al.) and be able to use the services available, not to mention its software, on it as if the Mac was a PC? Thanx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Francis N. Godfrey |Computing_CENSORED_CENSORED_ | "Don't Tell Them Syracuse University|Micro CENSORED_CENSORED_CENSORED|Anything!"-Marsh L. Law FGODFREY@SUVM.BITNET"Disclaimers are useless, No.1"!|fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu -------------------+"We don't know anything..."(ACS)+------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 11:21:35 LCL From: ESMITH@suvm Subject: Multifinder Problem? This weekend I started using Multifinder and received a message 'Could not allocate a working directory' when the desktop appeared. It does not seem to inhibit any operations, ar have any effect at all but I'm perplexed and a little disturbed since I have no idea what causes it. I have 816 files on my disk with about 15meg of the 100meg total still available. The system is 6.0.5 on a IIcx with 8 meg of memory. I can't believe I'm running out of either disk space or memory. Anyone know what's wrong here? As Always, Gene ESMITH@SUVM P.S. This does NOT occur with Finder alone. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 20:29:50 SST From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: NEW MAC GAMES ??? Can anyone tell me if the following games have been released for the Mac and whether color is supported: Indiana Jones Graphics Adventure Windwalker SimEarth Nuclear War King's Bounty Captain Blood Silpheed Thexder New releases of Sierra's games based on SCI F-19 Falcon 3.0 plus any others that I have not heard about. These are games under development, according to the respective developers and publishers who replied to my letters and pleas. Please send mail to me at ISSTTH@NUSVM. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 21:00:54 EST From: baks!pizza!jshul@bagate.uucp (Jeff Shulman) Subject: New ZUC Virus I've been informed a new variant to the ZUC.Virus has been spotted in Italy that is currently undetected by Disinfectant, SAM (in scan mode) and VirusDetective. A new VirusDetective search string that will catch BOTH variants (hence you can remove the old one after you add this new one) is: Filetype=APPL & Resource CODE & ID=1 & WData A746*A038#31E*A033 ; For finding ZUC.Virus 1 & 2 I will, of course, be uploading an updated search string list and a new version with the strings already built in, in the next day or so. Jeff Shulman VirusDetective author jshul@baks.bell-atl.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 15:05:16 CST From: Graeme <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu> Subject: Prolog and Lisp for the Mac In reply to some queries: Prolog for the Mac: (1) Parlog 2, PLP Ltd. POB 49, Twickenham TW2 5PH, (UK), 0454 201652. (2) Delphia Prolog, Arity Corp., 29 Domino Drive, Concord MA 01742, 508-371-1243 (3) ALS Prolog, ALS Inc., POB 90, University Station, Syracuse, NY 13210 0090; 315-471-3900 (4) LPA MacProlog, US distributor: Quintus, 800-542-1283. Some time ago Apple acquired Coral Software, which had 2 Lisps. The more powerful package is now (I think) available through APDA. The less powerful one, from which I learnt Lisp and which is pretty full-featured, is supposed to be public domain, but I don't know how you get a hold of it. It was called Pearl Lisp. Graeme Forbes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 22:05:37 est From: "Alan D Danziger" <aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: prolog and lisp for the mac [Question was, what prolog and lisp implementations are available for the Macintosh] I don't know about Prolog for the Mac, but there is a program called X-Lisp (currently 2.0 (I believe) for the Mac which is an implementation of Common Lisp, which I used for a little while. It seemed to be a fairly sturdy implementation, which many people in the AI class I am taking have used for their programming assignments. -=Alan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 15:01:40 SET From: Norbert Mueller <K360171%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Re: Flame on Symantec Concerning the question of Software import taxes, they are around 5-7% in addition to the 20% sales tax (called Value added Tax in Europe) If I import (LEGALLY !!!) from a US mail order house, I usually end up paying 1.5 to 1.8 times the net US price - including FedEx shipping and all taxes. Considering that software dealers must be buying at much lower rates than individuals directly from the publishers I have no understanding at all for the price policy. I even know of one case where Microsoft cancelled the contract with a foreign distributor because they (the redistributors abroad) were too greedy. I hope this dicussion on non/US software prices stays alive ans puts some pressure on the companies. Norbert Mueller ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 14:27:16 CST From: Steve Swinnea <swinnea@emx.utexas.edu> Subject: Report on Text Editors I mentioned in a previous posting that the version of Edit in use in our public labs would not handle HFS volumes gracefully and that I was looking for a replacement application. As it turns out the problem was that the version in use here was 0.9. This is outdated and later versions handle HFS well. At any rate, I got many responses to my request for Edit alternatives, and I thought it might be a good idea to summarize the current state of Mac text editors. This list is by no means complete, but represents what I consider to be some of the better editors available. Thanks to: Gordon Dohle, Clare Durst, Ingemar Ragnemalm, Steve Chanin, Michael Barrow, Jeff Keys, Les Ferch, Mike Liveright, S. Curran, Daniel van Kraalingen, Craig Prall, Joe McMahon, Sylvia Jacyno, Bryan Pearce, Peter Mcdonald, Andrew Feren, Murph Sewall, Jurgen Botz, Ron Hale-Evans, and Kenneth Seah. Desk Accessories: SigmaEdit: I have version 1.11 of this da. I have had a few problems with it in the past, i.e. random bombs when attempting to print, the find command returning junk after the first find. This da has most of the necessary options to do general text editing including choosing a working font, printing, find replace, tabs, and the ability to set the creator field of the text file. ASLEdit: This da is a small text editor based on the CAPPS' Prime Editor. It is free. I haven't used this editor extensively, but it appears to be a reasonably stable da. There is no limitation on file size, printing is supported, a Kanjii font is included with the package, there is a tab setting, and search and replace is implemented. The creator field is set to AEDT. The package also includes an application version of ASLEdit. Mockwrite: This is part of the Mockpackage and is shareware. I really didn't spend much time with Mockwrite. McSink: This shareware da is in the archives and got more mention than any other response, including applications. This da has all the basic features plus the ability to strip control characters and extra spaces >From files as well as well as convert between upper and lower case. There is a sort facility as well as the ability to use use macros. There is a commercial version of this editor (Vantage) which has more features. The mail order price for Vantage is only about $7 more than the shareware fee. Applications: Aside from the aforementioned ASLEdit and newer version of Edit there are a couple of other applications were suggested. Remember that commercial word processor you use (Word, etc.) can usually double as a text editor. Edit II: This is a very nice implementation of the CAPPS' Prime Editor. It was written by a student here at UT and I hope will be available soon as shareware. It has the same basic features that Edit has plus it can recognize the keyboard type on newer Macs. This means that if cursor keys are present on your keyboard, you can use them. It's default creator is EDIT, meaning that you can toss your copy of Edit and double-clicking old Edit files will launch Edit II. This is really a nice little editor for public facilities. If it doesn't appear soon contact kseah@cs.utexas.edu. Mcjove and Microemacs: These two applications are both in the archives. I group them together bacause they suffer the same problems. These two editors appear to be ports of emacs editors from other platforms and thus lack a real Mac interface. For instance neither have printing facilities. If you are an emacs fan like myself, check out the next contender. Alpha: This is an editor written by Pete Keleher for the Mac. This distinction is important. Although this editor is an emacs-like editor, it is not a port from another source and comforms to the Mac interface. This is like having the best of both worlds. Alpha is extremely extensible via the ability to create keyboard macros and ACMD's (Alpha Commands). This could become as the author says "the standard low-cost editor for the Mac." Alpha 2.07 is available in the archives. One quick note about da's versus app's. Desk accessories are nice to have around. In a finder environment they are always available. This can be nice when dealing with compiler and the like or in applications like TeX where one really doesn't want to quit the application just to make a simple change in a text file. On the other hand in a public lab setting on machines without hard disks or a da handler like Suitcase, the extra 50 - 60K required for a da on a startup disk may not be justafiable. In this case it is better to use an application on either a server or on a separate floppy. Steve Swinnea Dept. Materials Sci. & Engr. ETC 9.114 University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712 swinnea@emx.utexas.edu swinnea@utxvm.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 11:27:42 gmt From: "Costas A. Makris" <costas%titan.ee.ic.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Running Remote Process ... Hello, I would like to write a program on the mac that would be able to connect onto a UNIX machine (say a SUN or a VAX) connected to the network, transfer a file (say a circuit netlist) from the mac to the UNIX machine, then run a program on the UNIX machine (say SPICE simulator) and finally transfer the results back to the mac! I know that this sort of thing can be done since Mathematica is doing a similar thing when you operate in a remote kernel mode from a mac. What I don't know is how to do it, from where do I start, what do I look for ... Any information on this will be greatly appreciated. Please reply either directly to me (prefered) or through Info-mac. Thanks in advance for any info/ideas you can provide. Costas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 90 15:38:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas James Menner, Jr." <tm11+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Securing Laserwriters We are interested in physically securing our Laserwriter II NT (having suffered one previous theft of a Laserwriter). However, the LWII seems to lack the security lock feature of the Macintoshes (i.e. the indentation into which you can sink an eyehole). Does anyone have any experience/suggestions with securing laser printers? If nothing else we could always drill holes in the chassis and run cable or bolts through them, but I want to avoid physically altering the printer if I can. Thanks in advance... ************************************************************************** Thomas Menner || ARPA: tm11@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie-Mellon University || BITNET: tm11%andrew.cmu.edu@cmccvb Pittsburgh, PA || UUCP: psuvax1!andrew.cmu.edu!tm11 ************************************************************************** "When you're swimmin' in the creek/And an eel bites your cheek/ That's a moray!!" -- Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 16:40 EST From: "Carol Conti-Entin, ext. 8778" <$CAROL%OCVAXC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: seeking a file compare utility Does anyone know of a utility (freeware or shareware preferred) which can compare two Macintosh files and say whether their contents are identical (or better yet display the differences)? I'm thinking of something like the DIFFERENCES command on VAX/VMS systems or the PC Magazine COMPARE.COM utility for MS-DOS systems. Thanks in advance. |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Carol Conti-Entin Academic Computing Consultant 216-775-8778 | | Houck Computing Center Oberlin College Oberlin, OH 44074 | | Bitnet: $carol@oberlin Internet: $carol@ocvaxc.cc.oberlin.edu | | pconti@oberlin pconti@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 90 7:18:12 MST From: ASQB-IHX HQ USAISSDC <asqb-ihx@huachuca-emh2.army.mil> Subject: Solution to 8/24 NTSC problem Since I received more inquiries to the solution to my 8/24 NTSC problem then solutions, I decided to post John Daspit response. I am going to make the cable this weekend. Thanks to John for his resonse (I couldn't get back to you directly). ----- Forwarded Message Start Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 12:05:45 MST Message-Id: <9011191905.AA26738@spot.Colorado.EDU> >From: daspit%zodiac@spot (John Daspit, C.U. LASP, (303)492-6951) To: "asqb-ihx@huachuca-emh2.army.mil"@spot Hi, Here's the info on how to build a cable to output NTSC video >From the 8/24 board. You should know that it's BLACK&WHITE video that you'll get out. A converter box (not cheap) is required to do color. If B&W is all you need, here's how to wire the cable. 50-pin conector to RCA type 'phono' connector: HOOK PIN 4 & 7 TO PIN 11. PIN 5 IS SIGNAL AND CONNECTOR SHELL IS GROUND. This ties a couple of 'sense' signals to an internal ground to tell it to output at NTSC frequency. Obtained from a FAX from the Apple info line. Hope this helps. John Daspit. DASPIT@COLOLASP. ----- End of Forwarded Message PS Has anyone found a low cost means of getting color and/or genlock. Thanks. John Buono ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 15:58:17 EST From: John Major <major@bbn.com> Subject: Video stills Does anyone have any experience using the Canon still camera that puts its images onto disc? How do you get the video image into a computer afterwards? Thanks - John Major major@spcink.bbn.com 617/873-8165 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 07:39:11 CST From: knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com (Francis Knight SIEMUK ) Subject: Word Processor Filters/Translators A simple one, I hope: Our Vax runs a word processor known as WordMARC, which also has a DOS counterpart. Does anyone know of a filter to add to Apple File Exchange, to convert this format to Nisus/MacWrite/MSWord format? Does it work OK? Many thanks, Francis K =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Francis H Knight | knight@swfmc1.sinet.slb.com Schlumberger Industries | Felixstowe, UK | | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 18:31:06 EST From: kim <DD01007%MUSICA.MCGILL.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: X11 Bitmaps I recently got XBitmap from the info-mac archives at sumex-aim.stanford. edu. It is meant to be able to read X version 11 bitmaps and convert them to Macintosh PICT. At larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu there is a directory with the Poskanzer Bitmap collection. According to the README file, these are all in X11 bitmap format and "most of them are compressed". Does this mean that they were compressed using UNIX compress ? None of the files have the .z or .Z extension. Anyway, I downloaded a file in binary mode (the file was ai_3d_tor, a 7 K file supposedly depicting a 3d torus). First I tried opening it directly with XBitmap (on the Macintosh). Nothing happened. Then I tried to decompress the file using MacCompress 3.2, which supposedly decompresses UNIX .z files. I got a dialog box saying "badMagicError" and "Error decompressing data fork of ai_3d_tor.z -- unchanged". Note I had to add a .z exten- sion to the file for MacCompress to recognize it. Gee, this is getting long ! Now for my (obvious) questions: 1) Should I download the files in binary or in ascii (text) mode ? 2) Are the files actually UNIX compressed ? 3) Is there something else I have to do to the file ? 4) What is X11 bitmap format ? Apparently X11 bitmaps are huge text files (I converted a 6K PICT file to a 110K X11 file, but UNIX compressed it using MacCompress back to 10K). Is this the only type of X11 bitmap? I don't know much about UNIX or X windows, I only know how to use a Macintosh and an IBM (PC not mainframe or RS/6000). Thanking you for any help that you can give me... <dd01007@musica.mcgill.ca> or <dd01007@mcgilla> ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************