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Info-Mac Digest Thu, 3 Jan 91 Volume 9 : Issue 3
Today's Topics:
[*] Beyond-Hypercard-sit.hqx
[*] PrFlds 2.3.1 XCMD to print from HyperCard
CMS character problem
Connect, Inc. billing problems
disk optimizers
graphing programs
LABEL MAKING PROGRAM
Looking for CDEV to clean system folder, create spaces
mac gets confused when ejecting disks
Macintosh Repairs and Upgrades
Mechanical Drafting Software Request
Power Supply for Classic configurable for 110/220 volts??
SPSS for mac
Suitcase 1.2.8 & Digital Darkroom 1.1 Conflict
Volume number
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Date: Mon, 31 Dec 90 18:06:11 EST
From: jbotz%MHC.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject: [*] Beyond-Hypercard-sit.hqx
Following a binhexed Stuffit (1.5.1) archive containing the set of HC stacks
comprising the "Beyond Hypercard" package. This package demonstrates a few
interesting things you can do with HC 2.0 (required) and it's "way cool."
Turn up the your sound volume to 7 before you launch it. Trust me.
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Jurgen Botz | Internet: JBotz@MHC.bitnet ..or..
Academic Computing | JBotz%MHC.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Mount Holyoke College | Compu$erve: 70531,600 (rarely)
South Hadley, MA, USA | Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
[Archived as /info-mac/card/beyond-hypercard.hqx; 208K]
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 1991 14:40 MST
From: JOSEPH@cc.utah.edu
Subject: [*] PrFlds 2.3.1 XCMD to print from HyperCard
This is the latest version of PrFlds XCMD. One of the features added is
the ability to recognize and pass on the formfeed character (ASCII 12)
to the printer (to eject pages within the text of a field or container).
This stack runs on 1.2.x of HyperCard, but PrFlds and the stack work
OK under version 2.0 as well. Documentation is contained within the
stack.
Joseph F. Buchanan
Computer Center - MEB 3440
University of Utah
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
(801) 581-8814
internet: JOSEPH@UUCC.Utah.Edu
AppleLink: A91
[Archived as /info-mac/card/xcmd/prflds-231.hqx; 33K]
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 91 13:15:41 PLT
From: Paul Brians <HRC$04@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu>
Subject: CMS character problem
I complained recently that when I copied @ signs and hyphens into Word
>From this newsletter, then pasted them back from Word into VersaTerm
Pro, CMS refused to recognize and treat them properly. It turns out
the problem is not Word, but CMS. When beginning a session on CMS, I
enter "set linedit off" and the problem disappears. Thanks to those
who helped.
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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 91 20:47 EST
From: Nigel Allen <adobe!uunet!contact!ndallen@labrea.stanford.edu>
Subject: Connect, Inc. billing problems
Connect, Inc., a commercial BBS for Macintosh users, appears to have some
nasty problems with billing. I received a diskette good for a free 15-minute
demonstration several months ago, and after exploring the system for the
15 minutes, decided not to subscribe to the service. That was several months
ago. On my December Visa bill, there was a $30.00 purchase from Connect.
The company corrected its mistake when I telephoned to complain, but if you
took advantage of the demonstration offer, you may also receive an incorrect
debit to your Visa or MasterCard account. Watch your statement!
If you would like more information about Connect, telephone (voice)
800-262-2638 or 408-973-0110, or write to:
Connect Inc.
10161 Bubb Road
Cupertino, CA 95014 U.S.A.
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 91 15:14:48 EST
From: Jamer <PET101@ukcc.uky.edu>
Subject: disk optimizers
Hi y'all,
I was wondering: are there any disk optimizers available via ftp or otherwise
over the net? If not, what's everyone's fave commercial optimizer?
Just wondering,
Jamer.
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 13:20:36 est
From: zzt@mvten.ssd.ornl.gov
Subject: graphing programs
Stephen Kawalko asked:
2. Are there any graphing programs which allow you to specify
the exact size of the plot when it is displayed on the screen
and when it is printed.
The application Igor allows you to specify all of that in a macro
that you can easily define and edit
Jon Tischler (zzt@ornl.gov)
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Date: 03 JAN 91 17:49:46 CDT
From: Z4648252 <Z4648252%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: LABEL MAKING PROGRAM
Chuck Weinstock requested for comments regarding a disk label making
program. My favorite is Josh and Nick Franco's Loodle 4.0.3, a
$10.00 shareware product. It is unique in that it *works* and one
can get graphics for it via the icons in program resource files. I
can't recall where I first found it, it might have been at the Rice
archive (LISTSERV@RICEVM1), or on GEnie. However, it is a great
product and works with no problems on an emulated Mac Plus, the
Atari ST Spectre GCR. That in itself should indicate how solid of
a product that it is since Spectre is sensitive to illegal program
calls. Not once have I had a crash with this product.
Larry Rymal: |East Texas Atari 68NNNers| <Z4648252@SFAUSTIN.BITNET>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 13:09:04 -0500
From: Dr K. V. Rao<kvrao@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Looking for CDEV to clean system folder, create spaces
I'm trying to locate two cdev/inits that were posted sometime ago- (i) that
periodically cleans the system folder by removing temp files created by
excel, word, etc.; and (ii) creates an extra space at the end of each
sentence in a
word document. Thanks.
KV Rao
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K. V. Rao
Dept of Sociology
Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, OH 43403
Tel: (419) 372-7240
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Date: Wed, 2 Jan 1991 22:59:47 PST
From: Daniel Essin <essin@phad.hsc.usc.edu>
Subject: mac gets confused when ejecting disks
I hope that someone can explain and/or propose a cure for the following
problem:
I have a MAC II (originally a vintage unit with a marathon 030, now an fx).
When running multi-finder, if I open a document (in word, excel, nisus, etc)
and I use the SAVE AS... dialog box to select a floppy, save the document
to the floppy, choose OPEN..., and click EJECT while the floppy still shows
as the active selected drive, the system displays the following alert box:
(pict of 2 floppies) Please Insert the Disk named:
Hard Disk 148
The floppy icon on the desktop goes gray at the same time.
If I reinsert the floppy, the alert box goes away. At that point if I
to to the OPEN... menu the hard disk shows as the select drive. If I
click the drive button to reselect the floppy and then click eject,
the system 1) ejects the floppy, 20 grays the icon, 3) the open file
dialog box switches to show the hard disk as the selected drive.
With multifinder off, eject seems to perform a dismount and the problem
does not occur.
The phenomenon seems to be unaffected by the number or nature on INIT's.
On one occasion I observed a variation when I also had a CD-ROM connected
to the system. The desktop displayed 2 grayed CD-ROM icons while the
system displayed the message to reinsert the floppy named "Hard Disk 148".
The problem has happened with system 6.0.5, 6.0.7, and perhaps with 6.0.4.
I am inclined to speculate that there is a bug in the logic that multi-
finder uses to decide when to dismount vs only eject a disk (or that many
application programmers are making an inappropriate call under multifinder
when handling a click on the eject button).
I have also observed this problem once on a IIci under 6.0.5 with multi-
finder.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
dan essin
univ of so cal medical school
essin@usc.edu
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 11:13:06 CST
From: treble%ascvms@ascct6.sinet.slb.com (Internet: treble@asc.slb.com)
Subject: Macintosh Repairs and Upgrades
A recent info-mac reader asked about his flickering screen and what to do
about it. I purchased a book some time ago and have found it to be very
helpful in diagnosing and repairing Macintosh failures. You should be able to
find it in most bookstores.
Macintosh Repair & Upgrade Secrets - retail price $32.95 (U.S.)
by Larry Pina - former contributing editor to MACazine
Published by Hayden Books
11711 North College
Suite 141
Carmel, IN 46032
ISBN 0-672-48452-8
The book covers most failures in the Mac 128 through Mac SE and also has a
chapter on the Macintosh XL (Lisa). A floppy disk is included with diagnostic
software and a screen alignment procedure. The text is written in a
non-technical fashion for easy understanding. Even if you've never held a
soldering iron in your hand, you too, can fix your ailing Mac.
I found the most helpful chapter to be upgrading the analog board to avoid
burn things to a crisp! This book is a must for Mac Plus owners.
Regards,
John Treble
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The above opinion is my own and does not represent Schlumberger's opinion,
policy, or folklore.
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 08:55:23 est
From: Rocky Olive <olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com>
Subject: Mechanical Drafting Software Request
Hi netters! Can anyone recommend any mechanical drafting software to run on my
Mac IIcx (5-40-13"RGB)? I'm interested in all packages from simple, but
effective shareware to nice full packages, including the ones that may be
a good compromise between cost and features. I'm looking to do a house design
for myself, but there may be a future doing this for others, too.
Of the commercial stuff, I've seen MiniCad+, BluePrint and Generic Cadd 1
(can anyone explain the levels?). I really only need 2D capabilities, and
I would like to be able to generate HPGL output. Can anyone relate experiences
with these packages? Is there any decent shareware available?
Thanks so much for your help!
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..Data General Corp..... INTERNET: olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com
...Technology Drive.... AMERICA ONLINE: Rocky O
....Apex, NC 27502... PRODIGY: (cancelled)
.....919/362-4800x5392.. COMPUSERVE: 72500,2345
......919/362-4914 home. SCREAMNET: Yo, Rock!
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 11:26 N
From: "Gary T. Czychi" <CZYCHI%CSGHSG5A.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Power Supply for Classic configurable for 110/220 volts??
Hi,
when I opened a Mac Classic lately, I found on the cover of the
analog board two checkboxes with the following text:
|_| 120V: Jumper JP1 in Place
|x| 240V: No Jumper JP1
Because this Classic was bought in Europe, it is configured for 240
volts and therefore the second line was checked.
And here comes my question:
There are said two be two entirely different power supplies for the
Classic, one for 110V and the other for 240V. Is this really true or
is there just one power supply which you can configure yourself for the
correct voltage?
Thank you very much for any help.
Gary
Gary T. Czychi University of St.Gallen, Switzerland
czychi@csghsg52.BITNET or czychi@alpha.unisg.ch (preferred host)
czychi@bernina.ethz.ch.UUCP (CZYCHI@ETHZ.uucp)
Tel.: --41 / 71 / 57 17 22
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 91 09:59:13 EST
From: "John R. Goldin" <GOLDIN%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: SPSS for mac
Here are the two significant replies that I got to my query about SPSS
for the Mac. My conclusion is that it depends on what one is looking
for. My interesting is porting some applications from SAS on the
mainframe to the Mac so the fact that SPSS uses a command language is
not disadvantage. In fact, it may be an advantage from our point of
view. We have decided to go ahead and purchase a copy of SPSS for the
Mac to see whether we can save on some of our mainframe bills.
John Goldin
internet: john_goldin@qm.ycc.yale.edu
bitnet: goldin@yalevm
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Hi!
I was to write an article on SPSS for the Mac, but when I had installed
the program on the drive and started to read the manuals I was so
depressed thatI just couldn't go on any longer. SPSS for the Mac has the
most embarrasing user interface I have ever seen in 5 years! If I had
seen it 10 years ago, Iwould have found it swell, but it's soon 1991 and
software companies doingsuch lousy products ought to die, NOW! You need
Cricket Draw (if I don't re-member wrong) to get any decent output out
of the damned program. And it'sexpensive.
I don't know what you need to do in statistics, but I have found JMP
to be a program built for the Mac, and if it seems underpowered I think
I'd check Systat out. The only reason to buy Systat is that you might
want to interchange stuff between your Mac version and SPSS versions on
other machines, but if you read the manuals you'll find that the Mac
format isn't fully compatible with other reasons. Which means you have no
reason at all to buy SPSS.
Education will be a major obstacle if you go for SPSS. With JMP
you'reup and running after a day of experimanting on your own (no
education, just the bare manuals which are great). SPSS manuals are
terrible, diagrams arelike taken from a computer screen shot from a
Blixt Gordon-film, and there is no clear bright introduction exmaple that
makes you see why SPSS should be such a great product.
Maybe I'm biased against SPSS, but I think it's the worst product
I'veever seen for the Mac!
Mats Henriksson / mats.henriksson@eua.ericsson.se
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I've had SPSS Mac, Advanced Statistics, and Tables since early
September. It'll do anything the mainframe version will do except LISREL.
If you're"porting" files of SPSS-X commands from a mainframe, it's VERY
easy.
>in whether it is easy to use, performance, and how it compares with
Systat.
I've only read reviews of SyStat (I couldn't afford both -- they
ARE rather pricey!). SyStat is more Maclike, has a better data
entry facility, and MUCH better support for graphics. Systat is limited
to 250 (I believe that's the correct number) of variables. SPSS is
limite donly by RAM and HD space.I already knew SPSS (an investment in
the learning curve), had LOTS ofASCII data files and associated SPSS
command files to port from the mainframe, have alternate ways of entering
data (SPSS Mac WILL read tab delimited output from spreadsheets -- the
manual's at the office andI haven't tried that feature - and some other
formats besides ASCII datafiles), and find the interface MAClike enough
(after all those years using SPSS on a mainframe from a line based 300
baud terminal, the Mac interface is a relative joy!). SPSS Mac outputs
Cricket Graphic files,and I lucked into an attractive deal for Cricket,
so I use the graphics capability. It works fine, but SyStat is MUCH
less cumbersome.
>I have seen a description of how it uses a command-line interface with
sort of
>a Mac front end. How well does that work in day-to-day use? Is it
practical
>to consider it for a data set with several thousand cases on a Mac II
or
>an SE/30?
Certainly if you're an experienced SPSS user, the command-line type
approach is available and convenient (I usually prepare the whole data
definition, labels, and analysis commands while data are being collected;
so, creating an execution file fits my work habits). There IS a fairly
easy to use,largely intuitive command generator interface. I've used it
only a little because I know the software well enough that the command
generator slows me down.I've successfully run 2625 cases of 75 variables
and 300 cases of 150variables (the data was 500K in ASCII delivered on
an MS-DOS disk witha record length of 1026 bytes -- I haven't any idea
whether SyStat would have dealt with a file in that shape, but I used
Vantage to strip the linefeeds and SPSS Mac gobbled it right up). SPSS Mac
has a recommended execution memory of 2 Mbytes (it and Finder can be
squeezed into 2 Mbytes but there's not much room left for SPSS
workspace),and 4 Mbytes RAM is recommended. SPSS and Advanced
Statistics will fill about 6 Mbytes of hard disk and require another 2
Mbytes or so for scratchfiles when it's executing (you can live with a
40 Mbyte HD is you're agood HD manager, but I think a 20 Mbyte disk
would be confining if youplan on using the Mac for nearly anything
else).While it doesn't execute at mainframe speed, you don't have to
share the CPU with 600 or so other folks, so the "clock time" needed to
run thingsis comparable to 3090 turn around. I'm running on a IIci, I
haven't tried SPSS on an SE/30, I suspect it might be a tad languid :-)
I'm planningto get a cache card as SPSS (probably SyStat too) is disk
intensive. I'd guess it would work on fine on a IIsi WITH a MATH
coprocessor! SPSS Mac is available in a non coprocessor version which I
DON'T recommend (way too ponderous). There's a problem with the
downloadable font on the Personal LaserWriters which SPSS is in the
process of correcting (I've gotten very good service from tech support on
the two occasions that I've needed to call). I've got an interim
alternative to the font problem.
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 11:11:34 PST
From: marty@radarsun.jpl.nasa.gov (Marty Slade)
Subject: Suitcase 1.2.8 & Digital Darkroom 1.1 Conflict
I used the updater to go to Suitcase II 1.2.8; later that day I fired up
Digital Darkroom 1.1 and it died. Turned off Suitcase and DD worked normally.
I am not really worrying about this yet since I am eagerly awaiting my upgrade
to Digital Darkroom 2.0. However I wanted to warn people who are using DD1.1
that they might want to stick with SCII 1.2.6 unless they REALLY need the
System 7/TrueType fixes in 1.2.7/bug-fixed in 1.2.8. Of course I would not want
to claim that some combination of INITs/CDEVs &DD1.1 might be found that would
allow them to co-exist. I just don't want to take the time to use INIT-Scope
and figure out the conflict since I have a fairly minimal set of INITs (i.e.,
I NEED the ones I have).
Marty Slade
(818)354-2765
Standard disclaimer: Opinions expressed are my own and not Caltech's or NASA's.
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 1991 12:15:45 PST
From: The Moderators <Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>
Subject: Volume number
Yes, V91 was a bad idea. The problem is that we have to repeat volume
numbers when we get to 2001 (should we be so lucky). In a spirit of optimism,
I have reverted to V9.
Bill
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