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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 15 Jan 91 Volume 9 : Issue 9
Today's Topics:
[*] HyperCard 2.0 stack - Design For Assembly
[*] Macintosh timeserver
[*] PseudoFPU 1.1
Apple Source Code
AppleTalk PC card and Windows 3.0
Equipping a Computer Laboratory
File Transfer Question
graphing packages
Info-Mac Digest V9 #7
Kermit File Transfer
Lefties
Maxtor Drives
More questions on Mac IIsi
MPW/MacApp/C++
Need Database Help
Prolog for Mac?
reset key/easy access
SoundEdit 2.3?
sounds
Token concatenation in C (was MPW C <-> Think C)
Unfreezing a screen
Unfreezing Screens
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 91 11:21:35 CST
From: treble%ascvms@ascct6.sinet.slb.com
Subject: [*] HyperCard 2.0 stack - Design For Assembly
Attached is a HyperCard 2.0 stack called Design For Assembly (DFA)
Essentially, it implements the Boothroyd-Dewherst method of analyzing
mechanical assemblies for efficiency of assembly. I learned of this method a
couple of years ago and thought it was a good challenge for HyperCard.
Mechanical designers can use this stack to apply a "rule-of-thumb" to each
design and evaluate new approaches to the design. Many large corporations are
discovering the Design For Assembly (Design for Manufacturing) process saves
them millions of dollars and makes their designs more reliable and cheaper to
produce at the same time.
I've seen commerically produced software (IBM PC stuff) that does DFA, but
it's really slow and not terribly intuitive to use. My stack is fairly easy
to use. Understanding the method of DFA might be a help before you start
using it.
Note to Users:
The field called Minimum Number of Parts forces you to rethink the design as
you analyze. You must ask yourself questions like "Can I get away with 6
screws instead of 12?" If so, enter "6"
If you use Design for Assembly, and it saves you time (or money), then let me
know. I'm excited about this "first" attempt to share this stack with the
outside world.
John Treble
Development Specialist, Schlumberger - Austin System Center
treble@asc.slb.com
[Archived as /info-mac/card/design-for-assembly.hqx; 131K]
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 91 17:26:43 EST
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: [*] Macintosh timeserver
Seeing the post of Network Time (a MacTCP timeserver client), by Pete Resnick
reminded me of a similar utility I use here, which I thought I'd already
sent to info-mac. I looked thru the archives and can't find it, so I'll
send it again.
Timelord/Tardis is a Macintosh Timserver/Client combination, which was
developed at The University of Melbourne (that's right, Australia!). The
timeserver may be either a Mac or a Unix machine.
The Macintosh timeserver (TimeLord) runs via a CDEV. All other macs
get an RDEV (chooser device) Tardis. The time on the client macs is reset
each time they are booted. If you use one of the atomic clocks avaliable
to set the clock on the TimeLord, you can keep all your machines rather
closely synchronized.
I am enclosing a BinHex file containing the Mac-specific portions of the
package in this submission. A Unix shar archive with the C sources, Mac
portions, etc will follow.
tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil <+> tcora@dacth01.bitnet
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/tardis.hqx; 16K
/info-mac/unix/timelord.shar; 27K]
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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 91 11:06:53 -0800
From: John Neil <neil@apple.com>
Subject: [*] PseudoFPU 1.1
AUTHOR: John M. Neil
EQUIPMENT: Macintosh IIsi or LC without a Floating Point Unit (FPU)
NEEDS: Stuffit 1.5
PseudoFPU allows programs which require a piece of hardware called a Floating
Point Unit (FPU) to work without one. Just drop this INIT/cdev into your
System Folder and programs that formerly bombed will magically begin working.
Version 1.1 allows Excel and DataDesk to always run at maximum speed.
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/pseudo-fpu-11.hqx; 116K]
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 09:18 EST
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Apple Source Code
Adee Ran writes:
[stuff deleted...]
> Apple should
>give more support to programmers, even if they are not registered
>macintosh developers. As an example, I would suggest that the source
>code for some basic applications - a simple editor, a simple graphics
>program, and other programming ideas - should be released for
>programmers as a reference...
Apple has released a number of source code examples such as you are asking for.
Look in the /apple/code and /apple/proc directories in the Info-Mac archives.
Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET
Apple Support Manager
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 1991 14:05 CST
From: Paul Kleeberg <PAUL@gacvx1.gac.edu>
Subject: AppleTalk PC card and Windows 3.0
I wish to know how one can print to an Apple LaserWriter on an AppleTalk
Network from within a Windows 3.0 application running on a PC with an
AppleTalk card. As I understand it, Microsoft had created APPLETALK.DDL
files for Windows 286/386 that enabled this to work however I have been
unable to find a fix for Windows 3.0 to date. I have contacted both the
user support center at the University of Minnesota and the Apple Customer
Support Line and no one there is aware of a fix though they know it
doesn't work.
Given the popularity of the Windows 3.0 GUI, and the broad base of the PC
market, it would seem to me to be to Apple's advantage to make sure that
the AppleTalk PC card works under Windows 3.0.
If someone is aware of a fix please let me know. I will relate what I
discover to those who are interested (including Apple). ;-)
Paul
Paul Kleeberg, M.D. | Internet: Paul@GAC.EDU
Methodist Hospital | Bitnet: Paul@GACVAX1.BITNET
217 West Swift Street | Fax: 507-931-6752
St. Peter, MN 56082 | Voice: 507-931-6721
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 23:56 PST
From: Robert Front <T121267%TWNCU865@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Equipping a Computer Laboratory
Developing a Macintosh Computer Laboratory
or
How to Spend a Hundred Thousand Dollars Wisely
The French and English departments in our university have been granted
approximately $110,000 for establishing a Macintosh based computer laboratory.
In addition to the grant in cash, Apple Taiwan has promised to donate to us
(30) thirty MacClassics (I'll believe that when I see itHthey promised 30
MacPluses late last year; the Pluses, which never arrived, have blossomed into
Classics). The English department has two SE/30Ys connected by AppleTalk to a
Laser Writer IINT. Telephone cable and electrical outlets ($800) are already
in place. We plan to connect the laboratory machines to our computer center's
VAX computer via a gatorbox. We are not, at this time, planning to install
optical fiber cable, nor planning to purchase computer furniture, as we will be
moving to a new building within the next two years. The French and English
departments normally have an enrollment of between 40-45 students in a class.
Some Background
National universities here in Taiwan are required to obtain three bids from
local dealers, with the lowest bid being accepted. In reality, this is just a
formality, with one dealer providing the two additional bidders and giving them
what the Chinese call a red envelope (kickback). As dealer prices here are
outrageously high when compared with the prices one finds among mail-order
houses advertising in MacWorld ( for example, 2Mb 80ns SIMMs cost, as of this
mailing, $270), we are considering buying directly from the States. This will
require some documentation in order to argue our case. Even if we don't win
this time (red tape takes time to cut) it will provide us with some ammunition
for any future attempts to make direct purchases.
The Questions
As the original MacSchlemiel (first person in the department who buys a Mac,
and is dumb enough to brag about how good it is) I've been drafted into the
position of being responsible for figuring out how to best spend our $110,000.
So, the questions:
(1) Are schools in the States able to purchase directly form mail order houses?
(2) Is there a standard educational discount and, if so, what is that discount?
(3) We need the voice and FAX number of companies (who ship internationally)
presently offering the lowest market price for the following items: (Although
price and reliability are important, high quality is equally important--we're
not trying to skimp, we just want to spend our money wisely.)
(20) MAC Classics [the 30 promised by Apple gives us a total of 50]
(1) MAC II fx
(1) MAC IIci
(6) MAC SE/30's
(4) SCANNERS. We need suggestions about what are, at present, the best (high
quality) line art, grayscale scanners, and the voice and FAX number of the
companies offering the best price for these products.
(5) HARD DISKS. We are thinking of purchasing three 300Mb hard disks attached
to dedicated SE/30 servers. Here, we are looking at price and dependability,
as service would be so many thousands of miles away. We need the name of the
product, who is offering the best price, and their voice and FAX numbers.
(6) LASER PRINTER. Here again, price and reliability are important. As we will
be doing some desktop publishing we need high quality resolution. Output
(speed) is also of concern here, as we will be printing out Chinese (which can
be very very slow, for example, on a Laser IINT) as well as English.
(7) MONITORS. We hope to desktop publish both the French and English department
magazines and so we would like to purchase a two page as well as a one page
high resolution, grayscale monitor. The two page monitor will be connected to
the MAC IIfx, and the one page Monitor to a Mac IIci. Perhaps someone with
more experience in desktop publishing could offer what they have found to be
the best computer-monitor combination to achieve our above stated aim.
Finally, if you've been patient enough to read this far, we are wondering about
the future (with war looming just a few days away, all these plans seem somehow
irrelevant, but as the MacSchlemiel I've promised to come up with a product and
price list by Friday, if there is a Friday!). Are there any new products to be
unfurled in the near future that would fit in ideally with our plans and thus
be worth waiting for? We have until mid-June to spend the money or return (ha,
ha) it. Are there any other goodies that we should consider purchasing which we
have forgotten? How much money should we set aside for unexpected needs,
repairs, etc.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you can give us.
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
Robert E. Front
English Department
National Central University
Chung-Li Taiwan
BITNET : T121267@TWNCU865
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 8:55 GMT
From: Big Nose <LAWA%IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: File Transfer Question
To continue the Batch file transfer discussion, I have regularly transferred
files using wild cards from VAX to Mac using Kermit. The VAX end is running
VMS Kermit-32 version 3.3.111 and the Mac has Kermit 0.9(40) dated 4/5/88.
The only difference I can determine is that I GET the files from the Mac end
whereas I think that the original correspondent said that he used SEND from
VAX.
The only problem that I have with VAX file transfers is the 80 character line
limit. Any VMS wizards know how to get around that. Our Computing staff just
shrug if you ask them.
Andy L.
LAWA @ UK.AC.AFRC.IAPE Big Nose in Edinburgh
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Date: 14 Jan 91 13:26:26
From: Robert.H.Gross@mac.dartmouth.edu
Subject: graphing packages
OK, I give up... after trying for several hours to plot some simple data
using Excel and Cricket Graph without any success I am willing to buy another
package to do my graphing.
The data was the was a time course that had two variables which were
followed over the time period of the experiment. I wanted to be able to plot
the two variables on the same plot vs. time (the time points were not at
regular intervals). I wanted to be able to show the ordinate as either linear
of log values. I figured out how to get most of it done with each package,
but could not do everything I wanted in either package alone. It might be
possible to do what I want with these programs, but I have had similar
difficulties often enough that I am finally convinced to spend some more money
and buy a more high powered graphing package.
So... dear netters, I am seeking advice based on your collective
experiences. The packages that come to mind are DeltaGraph, Kaleidagraph, and
Igor. What are these packages like? How reliable are they? How complicated
are the interfaces? I do not need to do any complicated statistical analyses,
but I do need to do some data manipulation (which is why I have been using
Excel). I'd also like the package to have a "hot link" between the data and
the graph (unlike Cricket Graph). It would be nice to save the data and the
graph in the same Finder document, too. Is another spreadsheet (Wingz? Full
Impact?) what I should get? Should I wait for Excel 3.0x?
Any advice is welcome and I will summarize your comments and post it back
to the net. Thanks in advance for your help.
- Bob Gross
bob.gross@dartmouth.edu
Department of Biology
Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH 03755
(603)-646-2059
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 14:25:46 MST
From: Steve Shankman <SHANKMAS%ARIZVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #7
As far as SIMMs are concerned, the SE can use the slower types, down to 120ns.
Just make sure the ones in a bank are of the same type.
With SIMMs available so cheaply, why not just splurge and get four megs?
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 10:27 EST
From: Thomas R. Blake <TBLAKE%BINGVAXA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Kermit File Transfer
> I'm trying to transfer a collection of files from a VAX to my Mac. Can
>someone tell me how this can be done in a sort of 'batch' mode...
>...something like: program_prompt > SEND *.ADA
>and the two programs would co-ordinate the naming, opening, closing, etc of
>each file automatically. One emulator (Kermit, I believe) will send all the
>files from the VAX, but concatenates them all into a single file on the Mac.
I transfer files between VAX/VMS and a Mac all the time using Kermit-32
(VMS-Kermit 3.3.126) on the VAX and MacKermit 0.98(63) (beta) on the Mac.
A wildcard transfer from VMS to the Mac is done in the conventional manner.
The equivalent batch transfer from the Mac to VMS is done with a checkbox
indicating that all of the files in a given folder should be sent.
I have never encountered a time when all of the files were concatenated.
Tom Blake
SUNY-Binghamton
P.S. Both Kermit programs are free for the FTPing from watson.cc.columbia.edu
or send a HELP message to KERMSRV@CUVMA. If you're totally unsuccessful,
drop me a line.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 15:23:58 GMT
From: Michael Everson <MEVERC95%IRLEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Lefties
Applause, at least the sound of one hand clapping, to Apple for
making Easy Access and CloseView available. I'm dextrous, but I've often
wondered why Apple haven't offered a selection option for a left-handed
arrow pointer. We have one of the five Macs in the School of
Architecture here configured for lefties (mouse on left), but the
arrow we ain't got. (I know about Cursor Animator, but some applications
(Model Shop for instance) don't like it, and you get an annoying flutter
between the ROM/Finder cursor and the Animated one.)
Michael Everson
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 16:14:04 est
From: Rocky Olive <olive@apxtg03.apex.dg.com>
Subject: Maxtor Drives
Hello all! I've found a Maxtor LXT-100 I can get for a good price, but I
don't know about the specs needed for a Mac compatible disk. This is a
3.5" SCSI half-height drive that I feel confident would fit in my Mac IIcx.
Can anyone say for sure? Is there anything I should be wary of? Are Maxtor
drives "noisy"? I _urgently_ need to know by this Friday (1/18) evening.
Thank you all!
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Date: 13 Jan 91 22:48:48 GMT
From: gt0809d@prism.gatech.edu (gt0809d gt0809d gt0809d HERRI,GUNAWAN)
Subject: More questions on Mac IIsi
Thank you very much for netters who replying my message several days ago.
As a new comer to Macintosh world, I still MANY questions that I hope you
may help me about it:
* For persons who lucky to be able to attend MacExpo at San Fransisco,
what are the hottest products (especially for IIsi, any topics)????
* What is TCP/IP, UUCP, AppleLink, Ethernet, and Internet, and what is
the difference between them. I understand a little bit about Internet
because the office where I am working has connection with Internet
. Please understand that I am very new on this arena, so step-by-step
approach will be the best.
As that necessary if I buy an Ethernet card for my IIsi at home?
* Where can I get the software: DeskPict? What is the purpose of Boomerang
(I already have it but confused how to use it, the doc file make my
Si hung)?
* When I try to print some file from Microsoft Word 4 to my new DeskWriter
printer, the process is terminated by message: unable to print because
the memory is not enough. That's can not be true since there are 5MB
RAM on that computer, and when I check the About on Apple button, there are
3 MB free RAM! Any suggestion?
Is there any way to use font Palatino on Deskwriter and produced a good
result?
* I am very interested in multimedia field, and planning to upgrade my IIsi to
have 24-bit display and other accessories needed. The problem is: I am blind
on this field. Any suggestion about what products that I need, how much it
is cost, and how can I setup that peripherals to my Si (since I only have
one NuBUS slot).
* Is there any scanners and FPU for Mac IIsi that DO NOT need NuBUs expansion?
I apologize if this message is posted at inappropiate newsgroup, please refer me
to a correct one.
Thanks again for your time reading this humble and stupid questions. But please
reply, I really need the information.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 10:07:53 EST
From: Stephane Lacelle <471228%UOTTAWA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MPW/MacApp/C++
Hi, if there is someone on the network who is using C++ with MacApp and MPW
I need help. This is my problem. I'm simply trying to build (compiling,
linking and running) sample programs wtitten in C++ and the compilation
terminates when CFront (precompiler tool that translates C++ code in C code)
is precompiling. I noticed that CFront stops a little bit further in the pro-
gram when a larger block of memory is allowed for MPW (using Get Info).
Am I low in memory??? This is the system I'm using as well as the version's
software. Mac IIci, system 6.0.7, finder 6.1.7, multifinder 6.1b9, MPW QR1
3.2b1 and MacApp 2.0. All taht is running under 4M of RAM with 2.1M allowed
for MPW. What is wrong?????
Stephane Lacelle <471228@uottawa.bitnet>
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 91 11:50:08 PST
From: USERXF7B@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: Need Database Help
In my new job as LAN Administrator/Mac guru, I have to maintain/update
several 4th Dimension databases. The datafiles (10000+ records) are stored
on an AppleShare server. Reports from this data, which are many and varied,
are *horribly* slow (2.5+ hours for a one-page summary). 4D's record sorting
proceeds slowly enough that I can watch the numbers grow individually.
As far as I'm concerned, this is totally unacceptable. Is this just what
happens with 4D when you start having big databases on a file server? If so,
or if not, what should I do? The obvious alternatives to me are
1. Tweak the database code/write externals to speed operations.
This would be time-consuming, difficult, and of uncertain effectiveness.
2. Use a disk optimizer on the server/upgrade to Ethernet cabling.
I doubt that these are cost-effective, but I don't know what sort of actual
improvement would be realized. Anybody know?
3. Trash 4D and use a better data manager.
This is my first inclination (I'm a former Omnis developer and consider that
program infinitely superior to 4D) but the corporation is pretty standardized
on 4D, so this isn't really an option. Besides, that would just put off
these problems until the databases grow by some factor.
4. Move to a client/server model.
After reading the article in January's MacWorld, I'm thinking this might be
a viable option, but I don't really know. Since the data is all local to out
workgroup, what I envision is buying a low-end UNIX workstation (say, a IIfx
running A/UX) and putting all the data on it with ORACLE or some other DB,
and then using 4D (or ClearAccess, or HyperCard, or whatever) as a front end
to it.
I think that situations of my sort are probably fairly common, so I'd like to
hear what other people have done, what people think of my alternatives
outlined above, any other suggestions, and any comments on specific products
that relate in any way to this topic.
Also mail me if you'd like to get a copy of my final report...I'll u/l it
if there's sufficient interest.
Mail to:userxf7b@cc.sfu.ca. Thanx...alex
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 15:03 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen)
Subject: Prolog for Mac?
Greetings,
I'm looking for recommendations for a Prolog for the Mac. Since this is just
for learning the language, I'd prefer cheap/freeware. Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
I'll post a summary to the net.
Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist, VAX consultant
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-7742
AppleLink - U0523
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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 91 21:40 CDT
From: Stark Raving <TRIMPERG%LAWRENCE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: reset key/easy access
Byron Mayes wrote:
>I read once in an old MacUser (or was it Macworld?) that the interrupt
>key, along with a typed sequence, can be used to unfreeze a hung screen.
>Anyone out there know how to use it? Anyone out there know why Apple
>doesn't document it?
One. The phrase to type would either be ES (escape to shell = Finder)
or G FINDER (include the space). Either of these should help you
recover from a NON-serious crash.
Two. Apple DOES document it. Read Inside Mac, the Tech notes, etc.
Why is it not in the manuals that you got with your mac, you ask?
Come on, if Apple was to document things that were meant for Programmers
debugging their apps in the manuals, your everyday user would be REALLY
confused and overwhelmed by the excess material. The manual DOES say to
install the Reset/Interupt key IF you plan on Programming. If you plan
on programming, the rest of the info will come into your posession.
>Also, can someone please tell me what easy access does? It's nowhere
>to be found in the Macintosh documentation and I refuse to
>go buy a $15.00+ thirdparty book just to figure it out.
I qoute page 166 of "Macintosh System Software User's Guide":
"Easy Access is a file in your System Folder...these features assist
people with disabilities.."
How did I know to look on page 166? I looked in the Index. Where did
the book come from? It was in the box with my SE/30. I am pretty sure
that all Macs come with manuals.
>*FLAME ON*
>Why does Apple produce these little software ditties with no documentation?
>If there *is* documentation, why isn't it indexed? Who writes these manuals
>anyway, the $15.00+ book publishers?
>*FLAME OFF*
Save your fuel until you have read the FINE manual.
Greg Trimper
TRIMPERG@LAWRENCE.bitnet !Note the G! -bitnet
trimper@aebbs.lakesys.com !note no g! -uucp, etc.
Trimper - AOL
I don't need a disclaimer. I'm poor. I'm wrong. Sue me, sue me,
shoot bullets through me.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 12:42:26 -0500
From: edkemp@colby.edu (Eric D. Kemp '94)
Subject: SoundEdit 2.3?
I read an entry in the digest a few months back that said Farallon
would be releasing SoundEdit 2.3 in about a week. I haven't heard anything
>From Farallon, as I hope I would as a registered MacRecorder owner, and was
wondering if anyone had heard anything to substantiate this rumor. And if so,
what sort of new features included, and how can I get an upgrade.
Thanx in advance,
Eric Kemp
edkemp@host4.COLBY.EDU
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 16:30 EDT
From: Covaleski <PTC@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: sounds
Hello,
I need a source on "how" to make sounds automatically play upon start up and
shut down of the Mac.
Also - why is it taht SoundEdit seems to be limited in the length of the
sound that seems to be played (at least the ones I've downloaded from
sumex.
THANKS!!!!
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 10:27:42 CST
From: bruce@logic.dsg.ti.com (Bruce Florman (BFLM))
Subject: Token concatenation in C (was MPW C <-> Think C)
butenko@bob.srcc.msu.su (Vladimir A. Butenko) writes:
> By the way, Think doesn't like the following:
>
>#define op(x,op) x op= 2
> op(r,*);
Try this:
#define op(x,op) x op ## = 2
Think C is a close aproximation of ANSI.
--Bruce Florman
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 14:06:49 GMT-0500
From: mackid@mondo.engin.umich.edu (Michael Neil)
Subject: Unfreezing a screen
> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 91 17:59:29 CST
> From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu>
> Subject: Unfreezing a screen
> In response to a question about unfreezing a screen using the interrupt
> switch: after pressing the switch a small display box should appear with
> a prompt. Type: SM 0 A9F4, then Return, then G 0, then Return. In my
> experience, this will send you back to the Finder about 4 times in every
> 10. Probably it's not documented because it's not reliable.
> Graeme Forbes
Along those same lines:
1> If you have MacBugs installed you can type 'es' at the MacBugs prompt.
2> Also you can just type "G FINDER" instead of SM 0 A9F4.
| | | | Mike Neil
- o O - University of Michigan: Mac Systems and VizLab Support
| |^| | mackid@caen.engin.umich.edu or mackid@mondo.engin.umich.edu
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 10:40:01 GMT
From: Darkinbad The Good! <hpj%cxa.dl.ac.uk@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Unfreezing Screens
The SM 0 A9F4 (rtn) G 0 command is documented in one of Apples Tech notes.
Cannot remember which though!
*< Peter J Hardman. Network Manager. >*
*> Phone (UK)061-275-4640 Chemistry Department. <*
*< Fax (UK)061-275-4958 Manchester University. >*
*> EMail hpj@uk.ac.dl.cxa Oxford Rd. Manchester M13 9PL <*
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