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Info-Mac Digest Wed, 16 Jan 91 Volume 9 : Issue 10 Today's Topics: [*] Color icons for MW2, Kermit, others [*] Compare 0.9 [*] Freeware Translator Modules for StuffIt Classic and Deluxe another opinion (RE: Why the Mac may not survive) AppleMaxZoom Appleworks to Mac Bus error Character Equivalents Comments about OzTeX ??? Converting Sounds Disk Optimizers Erratic 'sticky' mouse problems/solutions Font Downloader that uses the laserwriter driver Hypercard 2.0? IIcx->IIci upgrade IIfx compatibility Inexpensive appletalk connection to an IBM PClone Interactive Data Analysis on the Mac Mac-TCP Mac-X question Macintosh IIsi and System 6.0.7 problems MIDI interface schematic wanted ... Programming the Mac SE Internal hard disk query SIMM upgrade leftovers Sticky mice Unfreezing a Screen/Editor Wanted: Advice on logging LW usage (abridged) Your Info-Mac Moderators are Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files are in /info-mac/help. Indices are in /info-mac/help/recent-files.txt and /info-mac/help/all-files.txt. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Jan 91 15:48:54 EST From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] Color icons for MW2, Kermit, others Icon Colorizer is very nice, but I was unhappy that obsolete MacWrite documents were colorized while MacWrite II documents remained in dull ol' B&W. So, I decided to see if I could figure out how to use the Color Icon editor. Both my artistic talent (more lack of same) and sense of color coordination (at least from the perspective of my daughters) have been called into question, so I'd be pleased to receive back anyone's improved versions of these color icons for: MacWrite II, Kermit, Speedometer, System Switcher, and TinCan (an even dozen color icons compacted into only 6K, not too shabby). ResEdit these into the Icon Colorizer INIT and reboot (EZ! :-) [Archived as /info-mac/misc/color-icons-2.hqx; 7K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 91 09:38:09 PST From: managan#robert#a%nersc.mfenet@esnmrg.nersc.gov Subject: [*] Compare 0.9 Here is another file comparison utility. This one lets you look at the two files side by side, each in its own window with the comparison of the files in a window underneath. The format of the comparison is derived by taking the elements I liked best of the MPW compare tool and TextDiff which was posted to the archives last month. The Mac interface was provided by FaceWare. It is an easy way to get a complete Mac interface with out all the headaches. For people with small screens: Resize the windows and then choose Save Settings... from the File menu. This will save the window sizes and locations as the default. Rob Managan managan%nersc.mfenet@nersc.gov managan%nersc.mfenet@anlvms.bitnet [Archived as /info-mac/util/stuffit-translators.hqx; 20K] ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 91 00:09:00 EDT From: johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu Subject: [*] Freeware Translator Modules for StuffIt Classic and Deluxe Greetings sumex archivers! The submitted file was created with StuffIt 1.5.1 and then BinHex'ed in the usual way. The following text should give you a start on describing the contents. I suggest that it be placed in /info-mac/util with a name like "stuffit-translators.hqx". Here are the first of what will hopefully be many freeware translator modules written for StuffIt Classic and StuffIt Deluxe. These first three modules are MacBinary, DDexpand, and Ascii<-->Binary. The user simply places a translator module into the Translators folder in the System folder, and the new format conversion options will be added to the "Other" menu automatically. Users who have previously relied on a host of stand-alone utilities for tasks like uu**code'ing, MacBinary (BinHex 5.0), DDexpanding, and Ascii<-->Binary conversions will be able to perform such tasks from within a single application, with a consistent user interface. The MacBinary and "Ascii<-->Binary" modules were written by Ray Lau; and the DDexpand module is copyright Aladdin. Thanks to Leonard Rosenthol of Software Ventures for forwarding copies of the new translators and pointing out to me that they work with the shareware StuffIt Classic as well as for the commercial StuffIt Deluxe! -- Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu) -- 38 Chambers St.; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949 [Archived as /info-mac/util/stuffit-translators.hqx; 20K] ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 91 10:21:13 GMT From: 6500rgls@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Randall S Geels) Subject: another opinion (RE: Why the Mac may not survive) >I would suggest that the source >code for some basic applications - a simple editor, a simple graphics >program, and other programming ideas - should be released for >programmers as a reference. There is *lots* of source code available and looking at that is the best way to figure out how things are really supposed to work. You don't mention the programming language you are using, but I would urge you to look at Think C v4.0. It includes all the source code you requested above and makes Mac programming *much* more enjoyable! I know there is also source code avaiable for other programming environs Most programming environments for writing real Mac applications come with at least some sample code (this excludes languages like BASIC, FORTRAN etc. which slap a plan text window on the Mac and let you pretend you're programming on a text based system) Also note that Think C is available for around $150 mail order which puts it in reach of most reasonably serious amatuers. It is a *full blown* Mac programming environment I'd I couldn't do without it! Randy Geels (disclaimer: I'm not connected in any way with Symantec, just a *very* satisfied user :-)) ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 91 19:29:12 GMT From: gt0809d@prism.gatech.edu (gt0809d gt0809d gt0809d HERRI,GUNAWAN) Subject: AppleMaxZoom Hi experts out there, Is anybody can tell me how to get the AppleMaxZoom (program to enlarge the resolution of Apple Monitor, from 640x... to 7xx x ...) on Mac IIsi? Or it is an impossible mission, then do I have another alternative (prefer shaweware or freeware) that will do the same task? Thank you...!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 08:32 EST From: Bob Beason <BEASON%GENESEO.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Appleworks to Mac To transfer Appleworks files to a Mac, copy the files onto a ProDOS 3.5 inch disk, then use Apple File Exchange to convert the files to Mac files. The default is to convert them to Microsoft Works files. Bob Beason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 23:06:50 EST From: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu ( Huangxin Wang) Subject: Bus error Hi, George, I read your info-mac posting about bus error. My friend also has the same problem on a MacII si when she runs CricketGraph 1.3 (the same software runs fine on other IIsi. Also has the same problem even when the system is started from Apple's original system disk). It seems to me a very strange thing, since it's said that Mac should never have bus error, here is what it is said in Medniek's book: ========================================================================= C Programming Techniques for the Maciintosh by Zigurd R. Mednieks and Terry M. Mednieks (Howard W. Sams & Co., 1989) Page. 202: Eorror explanation: ID = 1: Bus error. This should never happen on a Macintosh. The Macintosh hardware is designed so that bus transactions always appear to have succeeded, no matter what actually happened. ========================================================================= She talked to her Apple dealer as well as Apple's "Technical Support" (does this thing really exist?) They all say it's software problem, which is obviously not making sense (How can the same software work on other IIsi?) If you have any responses from the net, pls share it with me. Thanks for any help. Huangxin Wang, University of Pennsylvania ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 18:07:28 EST From: "D. Bylsma" <UOG01162%VM.UoGuelph.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Character Equivalents I'd like to find out from anybody familiar with either/or/both the IBMs and the Macs how I can go about generating a character equivalent to the Alt-T command on the PC keyboard. I have only a macplus keyboard to work from so issuing control-characters is a difficult option at the best. That is, unless someone can tell me how I can generate the control-characters in a standard mac program. I know that most MacTerminal programs allow you to send control characters through the use of the option key, but what about the Alt-{key} character? On another note...anyone know where I can get a copy of Apple Technical Note 31? Thanks, D. Bylsma ------------------------------- OPPCODE: DIA Develop Ineffective Address OPPCODE: BDC Break Down and Cry We get into the habit of living before acquiring the habit of thinking... Albert Camus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 11:25:22 EDT From: mperry@sydvm1.iinus1.ibm.com Subject: Comments about OzTeX ??? Hello All, Just a short note asking if anyone has ftp'd OzTeX, and if so - any comments on how it is to use, what the interface is like, memory requirements, how much disk space needed, that sort of thing ... Many thanks in advance :-) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mark Perry mperry@sydvm1.iinus1.ibm.com AIX Systems Specialist IBM Australia The above opinions are my own : I don't represent IBM. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 13:14:47 PLT From: Paul Brians <HRC$04@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> Subject: Converting Sounds I'd like some help converting beepsounds recorded on the SI into startup sounds that can be played by the Sound Manager CDEV. I'm a novice, but I have several tools, such as the Sound Mover and Sound Leech. I just can't seem to make it work. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 22:41 +0100 From: "Povl H. Pedersen" <ECO8941@ecostat.aau.dk> Subject: Disk Optimizers This is just a warning to everybody who uses disk optimizers, and DiskExpress in particular. WHEN YOU DO A DEFRAGMENTATION OF YOUR HARDDISK YOU CAN NO LONGER RECOVER PREVIOUS DELETED FILES !!! Often this is no problem, but I have seen persons who believed that they could always recover accidently erased files, and then DiskExpress II started its background operation, and wrote garbage where the old file was. I have used the disk optimizers in SUM II, Norton SpeedDisk and DiskExpress II and I prefer the optimizing done by DiskExpress II, but only use it manually. Norton looks better during optimizing but is not quite as good as DiskExpress, but is worth getting for the other stuff. If you buy Norton there is no reason to buy DiskExpress II too. All are personal opinions. Povl H. Pedersen eco8941@ecostat.aau.dk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 08:40:58 -0600 From: peters@mayo.edu (KEN PETERS PHONE: 284-2139) Subject: Erratic 'sticky' mouse problems/solutions >From: Mr Gordon S Byron <gsb1@forth.stirling.ac.uk> Anybody have any tips on the "sticky mouse" syndrome. some of the Macs i look after have developed a mouse problem where the pointer is wavy, hard to control and downright annoying... I have tried removing and cleaning the ball, blowing in the depression where the ball resides... > In response to Mr. Byron's "sticky mouse syndrome": > > Our department bought several MAC IIcxs during 1989-1990, of > which almost ALL have developed that syndrome. I found the > problem to be with the new style mouse that Apple was shipping. > Chances are you have a mouse with a greyish ball and METAL ROLLERS! > The metal rollers get gummed up quite frequently [weekly?] and > must be cleaned for smooth operation. Cleaning only the ball does not > help. However, a more serious problem is hair, dust, lint, or whatever > that gets into the "resistor pot" at the end of the metal rollers. > If you have 'blown' into the mouse, you may have blown contaminants > into the resistor pots. I have taken the mouse apart so I can > spray some switch/contact cleaning solution into the inside of the > pots and then rotated the rollers while the solution has saturated > the pots. This should clean the contacts. One source for such > switch/contact cleaning solution would be Radio Schack or any > such electronics parts store. > > The best solution, if your MACS are less than a year old is to > have the mouses replaced at your dealer (before you take it apart), > preferably with mouses with 'black balls and white plastic rollers'! > I have found that some of these mouses [black balls/plastic rollers] > and mouses made before 1989 have gone months and even years without > cleaning. > > Good luck! So far, cleaning the mouse with contact cleaning solution > has kept our mouses running well for several months. Hope this > solves your problem. > > peters@mayo.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:55:18 EST From: Peter Galko <PTRPB%UOTTAWA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Font Downloader that uses the laserwriter driver I have a problem downloading fonts to a LaserWriter in that I do not use Appletalk for my connection but rather employ a serial connection and the Asynchronous LaserWriter driver from Apple's APDA. In this arrangement, the only way I have been able to successfully permanently download fonts is to first convert the font file to text (useing the UnAdobe application), connect to the printer using White Knight, and then send the text font file to the printer surrounded by a bit of standard postscript code. This is rather awkward. (I can't use Adobe's SendPS since it presumes an Appletalk connection to the printer!). I have recently tried to use Download 1.3 (from Altsys) which appears to access a printer through the printer driver, but for some reason the font wont get downloaded unless I use Download to send the unAdobed version as a text file. DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY OTHER PROGRAM WHICH WILL PERFORM A FONT DOWNLOAD UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES I HAVE MENTIONED (i.e., doesn't assume that an Appletalk connection exists)? Failing this, does anyone know why Download 1.3 doesn't seem to work for downloading font files (under Multifinder). Prof. Peter Galko E-mail: PTRPB@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA Department of Electrical Engineering or PTRPB@UOTTAWA.BITNET Room A-509, Colonel By Hall or galko@rascal.ics.utexas.edu 770 King Edward Avenue University of Ottawa OTTAWA, Ontario, CANADA Telephone: (613)-564-7097 K1N 6N5 FAX: (613)-564-6882 if all else fails, for E-mail try ptrpb%uottawa.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 16:29:45 EST From: jerome@ee.fit.edu (Jerome Chan Yeow Heong - 57875) Subject: Hypercard 2.0? I have just obtained my Mac IIsi and am slightly confused over the hypercard bundled along with it. It is hypercard version 2.0 but it has only a small booklet explaining the basic uses of Hypercard. There are no reference manuals or help stacks as there were in version 1.2.5. Is this version of Hypercard the full blown version but with help stacks missing or is it crippled in any fashion? Is it possible and legal to obtain the help stacks from anywhere else? Does anyone know? How much do I have to pay? I have read about a club/organization called MUG? (spelling?) Are there any differences between the HC 2.0 distributed by Claris and Apple? .Chaos Ps Nobody has knows about the Mac version of mtools yet. Alas. Carry on APPLE File Exchanging! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 11:31:35 CST From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu> Subject: IIcx->IIci upgrade I may be able to persuade my department to buy me Apple's IIcx-IIci upgrade (at $1770). I'm told the new board comes with no memory. Will the 4 100ns 1 meg simms on my IIcx be transferable, or must the IIci have 80ns chips? If it can get by with 100ns chips, will that affect performance much? If anyone out there has gone this route, I'd be pleased to hear how well it worked. Graeme Forbes Bitnet: PL0BALF at TCSVM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 00:00:45 PST From: smith@whistler.sfu.ca (Richard Smith) Subject: IIfx compatibility In comp.sys.mac.digest you write: >Has anyone tried the following applications on the IIfx and have you had any >problems: >MacTCP >Illustrator >MS Word >MS Powerpoint I am using the above and have noticed no compatibility problems. ...r ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 07:31:21 EST From: john@ctc.contel.com (John Schettino x4156) Subject: Inexpensive appletalk connection to an IBM PClone On one desk I have my new, fast, IIci with an 80mb drive, and on the other I have my old (but trustworthy) PC/AT with 120mb and a 40mb tape drive. So I think to myself, "If I could only connect the mac and pc thru appletalk, so the PC can "see" the mac drive, and the mac can "see" the pc drives, I'd be able to use that extra disk space on the pc, AND I could back up the mack with my existing tape drive!" So am I dreaming? If this soultion could be had for less than $300, then it would be cheaper than a tape drive for the mac (and yet another disk drive!) Any info, experiences, or vendors/prices would be welcome. John Schettino (john@ctc.contel.com) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 91 15:44 EDT From: Al MacBest <BEST@ruby.vcu.edu> Subject: Interactive Data Analysis on the Mac A two day course using JMP to do statistical analysis is being offered 15-16 Feb in New Orleans. Courses will be set up at other sites too. If interested, eMail to: Al Best, SAS Institute Internet: Best@Ruby.VCU.EDU Bitnet: Best@VCUVAX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 18:12:33 EST From: "D. Bylsma" <UOG01162%VM.UoGuelph.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Mac-TCP I'm asking this on the behalf of an acquaintance... Does anyone around here know where I can acquire a copy of mac-tcp that works successfully on Ether-Net networks that are in turn linked to an IBM mainframe? For another friend of mine: Are there still any SE/30s around for sale that do not have a hard-drive installed? E.G. A plain (whatever that is) vanilla SE without internal hard drive? If so for how much? Prefer non-pre-owned SEs but willing to consider pre-owned SEs ------------------------------- OPPCODE: MDB Move and Drop Bits OPPCODE: GBB Go to Back of Bus The one real object of education is to leave a man in the condition of continually asking questions... Bishop Creighton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 17:28:14 GMT From: David Burgess <dhb@maths.qmw.ac.uk> Subject: Mac-X question What is protocol used by MacX to run remote commands? First investigations imply that it isn't rsh, because .cshrc file isn't read in (could be mistaken here...) David Burgess ===== Astronomy Unit, QMW, University of London +44 71 975 5460 (JANET: dhb@uk.ac.qmw.maths NFSNET: dhb%maths.qmw.uk.ac@nfsnet-relay.ac.uk) (SPAN: RLESIS::VMSFE::DHB (RLESIS=19527 if not known) ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 09:55:02 EST From: Don DeMaio <DONDE@brownvm.brown.edu> Subject: Macintosh IIsi and System 6.0.7 problems We are having all kinds of crashes with our new Mac IIsi and System 6.0.7. Mostly, these crashes occur while attempting to print. Has anyone had this happen to them?? Is there a newer system than 6.0.7 that is more stable?? Does Apple have any explanations?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:51:03 EDT From: mperry@sydvm1.iinus1.ibm.com Subject: MIDI interface schematic wanted ... Greetings, I've had a look at MIDI interfaces around the place and have come to the conclusion that (in Oz anyway) they are pretty over-priced for what they are. Does anyone out there have a schematic for a Mac MIDI interface? Surely there can't be too much inside that little plastic box. I'm just looking for 1 in and 2 outs ... Thanks in anticipation ... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Perry Internet : mperry@sydvm1.iinus1.ibm.com AIX Systems Specialist Voice : 61-3-698-1790 IBM Australia "...but that doesn't mean you can seduce my parrot!!" - The Young Ones The above are my personal opinions only. I don't speak for my employer. ........................................................................ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 06:22:47 -0500 From: Jonathan Mills <jwmills@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Programming the Mac After purchasing a variety of books and programming aids, I found a pricey but effective way to learn how to program the Mac, and cut down on the time it takes to generate a working Mac interface. Please note that this is only my opinion; that I neither work for any of these companies nor agree with their pricing; and that I sympathize with all who can't afford this stuff. But it's taken two years of off-and-on effort to figure out what I needed to have to learn to use the Mac -- and then it only took three weeks to build a complete Mac interface! Books ranked by usefulness: 1. (tie) Inside Mac I, II Think C 4.0 Manual AppMaker Manual Mac Technical Notes 1985-1989 2. (tie) K&R C book Harbison & Steele C Reference Book 3. Inside Mac IV Tools ranked by usefulness: 1. (tie) Canvas 2.1 use it to design interface, esp. "look&feel" AppMaker 1.1 used to implement interface; generates ~70% of code a lot of cut&paste between Canvas and AppMaker eases design time, especially useful are custom controls such as picture buttons and user-designed sliders. Think C 4.0 2. (tie) ResEdit Some AppMaker resources must be fixed up, ResEdit is mandatory to edit the AppMaker resource file (changing a button picture can't be done in AppMaker without losing the original button, for example) ClipBoard Magician Freeware by Ed Lai, but is useful to convert resource types. 3. (tie) AutoWeave This program & the MPW compare command can be used MPW Shell 3.1 to update procedural AppMaker code if the interface is changed. The AutoWeave'r can be used with your own scripts to batch update the new files with your code modifications. Somewhat painful, but useful when you have 40 files to fix. Biggest complaint: Symantec (who distributes AutoWeave in their C updater) did not make AutoWeave work with their own compare utility. To use it you must have access to MPW. Hey, what is THINK C written in -- MPW C? AppMaker is quite useful as a learning tool. I wrote a number of test applications (dialog box, window, one-item menu, etc.), then looked at the generated code to see how everything fit together. This also answered many of the questions about use of toolbox routines. The fault I have found with most commercial Mac programming texts is that they are written in "pieces" and do not show the "gestalt" of a large program. Sure, the principles are there, but after spending some time to diagram a simple application generated by AppMaker, I wish someone had printed such a chart in one of these books. Or showed a diagram of a window or control list. Etc. The downside of these tools is cost. All of the books + software that I ended up using to program my application costs about $1,200, at a rough estimate. Spread over two years, the pain was somewhat less. But not much. How could things be improved? Perhaps by selling a starving student Mac developers package that cuts out a lot of the extra features that could be omitted (again, another opinion :-) - Target AppMAker for procedural Think C code - leave class library out of Think C - use Think compare in AutoWeave - use a B&W paint program or desk accessory The whole package, for $199, would contain: AppMaker(-) for Think C(-) Think C(-) DeskPaint ResEdit ClipBoard Magician AutoWeave Inside Mac I, II, IV THINK C(-) manual AppMaker(-) manual Am I dreaming? Yeah, sure. But wouldn't I have loved to have had this package! It would have cut novice user development time for a Mac program down to about four months. Sincerely, Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 14:00:44 EST From: williams@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams) Subject: SE Internal hard disk query The internal 20 meg disk (Apple) on my SE just quit. What are current re- commendations for a replacement (40-60 meg)? Please respond to me per- sonally, if possible; I am several weeks behind on my Info-Mac's. Dura- bility is the major consideration, cost next, speed and capacity last.\ Thanks in advance, -W2 Williams@oyster.smcm.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 1991 15:12:12 PST From: Daniel_C._Chen.Wbst129@xerox.com Subject: SIMM upgrade leftovers I've finally upgraded my MacSE to 4Meg. Is there any use for the leftover 256K SIMMs? Are there other products (Amiga?, Atari?, Synths etc.) that might have a use for them? Thanks, Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 08:23:09 EST From: Joe McMahon <XRJDM@scfvm.gsfc.nasa.gov> Subject: Sticky mice "Sticky Mouse" is often caused by built-up gunk on the mouse rollers. Turn the mouse over, open it up, take out the ball, and look at the rollers. If thay are not absolutely clean, get a Q-tip and some alcohol (denatured, not rubbing - the stuff for cleaning tape heads is good) and scrub the gunk off the rollers. You will probably have to turn them by hand a little; this won't hurt anything. To avoid future occurrences: Make sure the mousing surface is clean to cut down on the buildup. Mousepads are one way to go, but just putting a clean piece of (non-glossy) paper underneath the mouse will give it a nice, clean surface to run on. --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jan 91 11:33:18 From: Steve Lubars <Steve_Lubars@qmlink.draper.com> Subject: Unfreezing a Screen/Editor Subject: Unfreezing a Screen/Editor Request Typing G SYSRECOVER at the > prompt after halting the Mac seems to work about half the time for me. Does anybody know the difference between this and the already-posted SM 0 A9F4(CR)G 0 ? Also: I've written a program which creates some TEXT files containing laid out tables. The tables only look right when viewed in a fixed-space font, like Courier or Monaco. What I'm wondering is, is there a way to get TeachText to change fonts? When I ResEdit-ed TeachText I noticed a "Font" menu that someone left in there. Perhaps there is a freeware editor out there that offers this functionality. Thanks in advance. Steve Lubars sll1437%draper.com@relay.cs.net Why does man kill? He kills for food. But not only for food: frequently, there must be a beverage. -Woody Allen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 91 15:30:15 GMT From: mrd2@po.cwru.edu (Mark R. DeGuire) Subject: Wanted: Advice on logging LW usage (abridged) * S~# @-#Y( * S~# @-#Y( * S~# @-#Y( * S~# @-#Y( * S~# @-#Y( * S~# @-#Y( To the UseNet community: We have a small computing facility in which three Mac Pluses and an AT clone share a LWIINT over LocalTalk. (The AT has a TOPS AppleTalk card and NetPrint software.) We would like to keep track of who uses the LW and how many pages they print, so we can charge users are recoup costs. We are aware of two routes: VendaCard readers, or MacJANET file server soft- ware. Does anyone out there want to comment on firsthand experience with either of these? Or are there alternatives? Thanks for your input. Mark De Guire Case Western Reserve University ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 19:39:00 -0500 From: cartier@mipsmath.math.uqam.ca (Guillaume Cartier) A Lisp lover... As a lisp programmer, I was wondering if there exist some kind of archive where lisp programmers can exchange software ? If not could it be at stanford in info-mac/lang/lisp ? If this gets done I personnaly have some nice sofware that I could give, written in Macintosh Allegro Common Lisp. Thank you. Guillaume Cartier EMail: cartier@math.uqam.ca ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************