info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (01/24/91)
Info-Mac Digest Wed, 23 Jan 91 Volume 9 : Issue 19
Today's Topics:
[*] CasetteLabeller
[*] font/japan-fonts.hqx
[*] Icon Colorizer 1.6
ADD Viewpoint Terminal Emulation
A query or two about Inside Macintosh
cicn <-> icl8?
Cursive font
Cursor Control
Cursor Control (from George Hayden)
Disk Accessory Plus ??
full directories?
hierarchical meuns
How can I keep AppleTalk active?
IBM files w/Mac
Info-Mac Digest V9 #17 (2 msgs)
large system memory
LaserWriter 6.0.x patch
LC monitors
LEFTIES
Mac Spare Parts Sources ?
memory-managment-fix INIT problems
My request for an Internet Address of yesterday.
Optima Removable HD info?
Relative file system on HC20
Stack for tech notes
SuperSpool 5.0 and ATM
Thank You, Symantec!
Well, *I* like WingZ....
Writing XCMDs with MPW C++?
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 91 15:01:56 -0800
From: Shad Ahmad <sahmad@apple.com>
Subject: [*] CasetteLabeller
The file CassetteLabeller 2.0v2b1 is a HyperCard 2.0v2 stack. It is used
for making neat cassette case labels. Most of the info can be input
by scrolling through the fields and clicking on buttons.
I have compressed the file using Stuffit 1.5.1 and have encoded into Binhex
(also using Stuffit 1.5.1).
Please post it because I think it is neat, you might want to try it out.
I will have future releases with actual cassette labels and cassette
indexing features built into the stack.
Thanks
-Shad
[Archived as /info-mac/card/cassette-labeller-20b1.hqx; 18K]
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 91 18:08 CST
From: "Ken R. Lunde" <KLUNDE@vms.macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: [*] font/japan-fonts.hqx
The following file contains 5 Japanese fonts: ASLFont+, K2!, Koshigaya, Tokyo,
and Yoshinogari. These are bitmap fonts designed to run under the Japanese
operating system for the Macintosh (i.e., KanjiTalk). They require that the
Japanese fonts included with KanjiTalk be installed into your system. Also
included is a file called SysFontINIT which replaces the default Osaka font for
the System and Application font with Koshigaya for the Application font and
Tokyo for the System font. A file called KEISEN is also included -- it helps to
displayed ruled lines which are part of the standard Japanese character set (JIS
X 0208). There are README files in Japanese for the Yoshinogari font, and one
for SysFontINIT, Koshigaya font, and Tokyo font. Note that there are 2 Tokyo
fonts: one is TokyoKT, and the other is TokyoSJ (the first is for users of
KanjiTalk, and the second is for users of SweetJam). This file was stuffed and
binhexed. Enjoy!
Ken R. Lunde
klunde@vms.macc.wisc.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/font/japan-fonts.hqx; 61K]
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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 91 13:12:43 EST
From: kenh%hscfsas1@das.harvard.edu (Ken Hancock)
Subject: [*] Icon Colorizer 1.6
Enclosed is the latest and just-released version of Icon Colorizer.
New features include user-definable dithering for different
monitor depths. This is especially useful for the small-icons
in the menubar and the apple menu. It makes them look oh-so-much-better.
This is a compactor file as I've recently switched from the oh-so-slow
StuffIt Deluxe (2.0 is just as slow...) to Compactor. Although there's
lots of features I'm going to miss, hopefully if lots of people send
Bill Goodman his $25, he'll include them in Compactor.
Enjoy
Ken
[Archived as /info-mac/init/icon-colorizer-16.hqx; 125K
/info-mac/source/c/icon-colorizer-16.hqx; 56K]
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 12:47 EDT
From: Jane Hesler <HESLER@ruby.vcu.edu>
Subject: ADD Viewpoint Terminal Emulation
Does there exist any communications software that will emulate an
ADDS Viewpoint terminal on a Mac?
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 1991 19:28:29 GMT
From: nherring@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Elendil)
Subject: A query or two about Inside Macintosh
Q: Is Inside Macintosh going to have a new edition sometime in the near
future?
Q: Is reading Inside Macintosh the best way for a beginning programmer to
learn about such things as the "toolbox" and other vague entities?
Q: Is Inside Macintosh available in electronic copy?
nh
--
/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\
| Disclaimer: This may exceed perfection, causing paradoxes everywhere. |
| Then again, it may not... nherring@eleazar.dartmouth.edu |
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 12:50:39 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: cicn <-> icl8?
On Mon, 21 Jan 1991 20:02 PST you said:
>Are there any freeware, shareware, etc. programs out there that can convert
>back and forth between cicn and icl8 resources? Commercial utilities? Is
Color Icon Exploder (in the archives) will convert cicn to the entire
icon family (ic18, ic14, ICN# etc). It's one way only.
>there even perhaps a way to do it with ResEdit 2.x, which I haven't had time
>to play with yet? Please e-mail me and I'll summarize to the net. Thanks.
Cut and paste is possible (open an ic18, command-A, command-C, command-W,
open cicn and command-K, command-V <for B&W and Mask too>, command-I
<correct id number>, command-W). I haven't found a better way, but I'm
no ResEdit expert, and I waste too much time "exploring" 2.1 already :-)
/s Murph <Sewall%UConnVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.Edu> [Internet]
or ...{psuvax1 or mcvax}!uconnvm.bitnet!sewall [UUCP]
+ Standard disclaimer applies ("The opinions expressed are my own" etc.)
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 08:09 EST
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Cursive font
Gregory E. Gilbert writes:
>Does there exist a "cursive" font? You know loopy l's. That kind of thing.
> [etc.]
Adobe Typeset 1 has a font called Freestyle Script that sounds like what you
want. There's a sample in the latest MacWarehouse catalog, in the listing of
the "best-selling Adobe fonts" section.
Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET
Apple Support Manager
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 08:25 EST
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER%IUP.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Cursor Control
In order to control the cursor location, you need to know three low memory
globals: MouseX ($082A), MouseY(0828), and CrsrNew ($08CE). Load the desired
cursor location into MouseX and MouseY, and then put $FF into CrsrNew. The
mouse will move to that location when the next VBL interrupt occurs.
You're right, this isn't documented. I got the globals from Dan Allen's book,
_On Macintosh Programming: Advanced Techniques_ (Addison-Wesley, ISBN #
0-201-51737-X), and used TMON to figure out that you had to put $FF into
CrsrNew. If you're interested, I can send you the source code (Think C) to a
short little program that moves the cursor without user intervention. This, of
course, is a flagrant violation of the Human Interface guidelines, but is kind
of amusing.
Mark Nutter MANUTTER@IUP.BITNET
Apple Support Manager
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't look in his mouth." - Archie B.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 10:02 EDT
From: <PJORGENS%COLGATEU.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> (Peter Jorgensen)
Subject: Cursor Control (from George Hayden)
"Clicking at..." is NOT the same as controlling the cursor! It does not move
the cursor at all which, in the case of our interactive information kiosk, is
exactly what we needed to to. We wanted the mouse in the center of the screen
whenever a new user approached the system. The previous user may leave the
mouse anywhere. After a timeout period of inactivity, we returned to the
welcome screen and put the cursor back in center screen. This was extremely
effective (we tried it first without reseting the mouse position and in-
experienced people would click the button a few times, not realizing where
the mouse was, give up and walk away.)
There is an xcmd that can position the cursor. I got it from the Archives. I'm
sorry, I don't know exactly what it's called.
Peter Jorgensen
Microcomputer specialist, VAX consultant
Colgate University - Hamilton, NY 13346
BITNET - PJORGENSEN@COLGATEU
tel - 315-824-7742
AppleLink - U0523
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 15:50:38 EST
From: jeteye@cbl.umd.edu (James Love)
Subject: Disk Accessory Plus ??
As a follow-up to the earlier discussion on floppy disk labeling
applications, is anyone familiar with a shareware (??) DA entitled
Disk Accessory Plus ?? I'm told this is a worthy competitor to loodles
(which was posted to the archive some weeks ago), but I've not been able
to locate a copy in any of the standard ftp Mac software archives. I'd
be most appreciative if someone could point me in the right direction.
Thanks .... Pray for Peace
Jim Love
jeteye@cbl.umd.edu
University of Maryland System
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 1991 15:26:52 EST
From: GRIFFITH@comb1.comb.umd.edu (Peter Griffith)
Subject: full directories?
Is there a limit to how many files one can have in a directory on a single hard
disk? I have a program that makes subfiles faster than roaches make roaches,
and I'm concerned that I may face problems. right now I have about 2,500 files
on a 40Mbyte disk.
I have also been having problems with Excel crashing with the Multifinder
error message "the application Excel has unexpectedly quit. Error 3". This
happens when I try to save a spreadsheet. I have tried replacing Excel with
a new copy off my original Excel floppy disk, and it still crashes. Is there
any relationship here to the above problem?
Thanks,
Peter Griffith
P.S. Oops, I should say that Excel crashes about 1 out of 50 saves. I did not
mean to imply that it crashes every time I try to save.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 15:33:35 +0000
From: Z.Wang@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: hierarchical meuns
Dear All
Could anyone give me some examples of creating hierarchical menus?
Inside Mac V claims that I can put $1B in the key equivalent field and
SubMenuID in the check mark field. But ResEdit does not allow more than
one character in those fields. I tried AppendMenu but clearly no submenu
created. I use Thank Pascal.
Thanks in advance
Zheng
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 1991 11:08 CST
From: DMONEY@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: How can I keep AppleTalk active?
In our public lab sites, we have Macintoshes networked to a FastPath. Students
then use our machines to access the DECVAX and IBM Mainframe. Unfortunately,
students tend to deactivate AppleTalk through the chooser. The next student,
who knows nothing about AppleTalk, just thinks the network is down and leaves
the laboratory in a fit of anger. These labs are self-served; they are not
staffed, so we can not look over the shoulders of our users.
We can not remove the Chooser because students would like to switch between
printing to a LaserWriter or an ImageWriter. Using ResEdit, I removed the
"Inactive" button from the Chooser, but if a student selects the "ImageWriter"
to print to, he can then select which port he wishes to print from. The
student may be mislead into choosing the "Printer Port," which, unfortunately,
is being used by AppleTalk. Thus AppleTalk is deactivated.
Any suggestions? If so, please E-mail me directly, and I'll post the helpful
suggestions afterwards.
Thanks to all that can help,
Dean Money
Academic Computing Services
Auburn University, Ala.
dmoney@auducvax
dmoney@ducvax.auburn.edu
205/844-4813
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 10:42 CST
From: <CD03958%SWTEXAS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: IBM files w/Mac
How do you use a Superdrive connected to a mac to read IBM files? Do you have
to have a software package? I popped an IBM disk into a mac superdrive and it
would not recognize the disk.
Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 91 19:02:35 PST
From: Michael O'Henly <LUX@uvvm.uvic.ca>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #17
Re: White Knight (Version 11.10)
WK does something rather odd when you're running it under Multifinder. When
it's redialing a number, WK won't let you access the Apple menu (it just beeps
as though the redial window was following dialog rules). But if you click on
the upper righthand corner icon to bring the Finder or some other application
into the foreground, then you can access the Apple menu - and WK continues re-
dialing quite happily in the background.
Any suggestions? (Yes, I do have "Using Multifinder" selected in Customize/
Options/White Knight.)
Michael O'Henly
lux@uuvm.uvic.ca
McPherson Library, University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C., Canada
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 12:51:01 EST
From: rob@homxc.att.com (Robert M Coben)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #17
>From article <9101222326.AA16787@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>, by info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators):
]
] Horror story about the apparent lack of ongoing commitment for the MAC
] version of Quicken deleted...
]
Try MacMoney. You'll love it. I have been using it for 2+ years without
a problem. They have upgraded it twice, with another upgrade in the works.
All std. disclaimers apply. I am just a satisfied MacMoney user.....
.....rob
--
.....rob coben, currently contracted to AT&T Bell Labs, rob@homxc.att.com
rob's rule #1: If you want it bad, you're going to get it bad!
rob's rule #2: Just because you own a hammer, it doesn't make you a carpenter.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 14:55:42 EST
From: "Carol Lena Terry, Systems Development" <CGTERRY@vtvm2.cc.vt.edu>
Subject: large system memory
I recently installed system 6.0.7 and finder 6.1.7 on my Mac IIcx.
A couple of weeks later I began running out of memory when attempting
to run several applications simultaneously and discovered that "system"
was occupying over 2 meg of memory. (I have a total of 4 mg on the machine).
So, with a vanilla 6.0.7 startup disk, I restarted the machine and even
then the system occupied 1746K. On a co-workers Mac, starting with
the same disk, system occupied only 448K (as would be expected).
Any ideas/suggestions??
Thanks.
C. Terry
Systems Development, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 12:21:41 EST
From: "Sue Hay (tm)" <SUEHAY@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: LaserWriter 6.0.x patch
I got the following text off of one of the Mac lists a while ago. I am
simply reposting it (due to several recent requests) and do not guarantee
it (although I am reasonably sure it works!):
"This patch to the LaserWriter 6.0.x driver sets b/w as the default rather
than clolr. This speeds up most printing and has been tested with 6.0 and
6.0.1 and 6.0.2.
Using a sector editor such as Fedit, ResEdit 2.0, MacSnoop, etc., search
the LaserWriter system file for the following hex string:
377C 0017 0004 7801
(Don't enter the spaces. They are only there to ease readability.)
Then change the 0017 to 0018. That's it. This will change the radio
button default to b/w."
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 07:10:40 AST
From: "Stewart Walker" <SWALKER%MTA@unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca>
Subject: LC monitors
_______________________________________________________
Date 1/23/91
Subject LC monitors
>From Stewart Walker
To Gordon Byron
info mac
REGARDING LC monitors
>I am told by the local dealer that the low cost monitors advertised
>for the lc "are not available" and we need to buy more expensive old
>monitors. Can anybody help here? We can't afford that option and in
>anycase would like the lc as advertised. All help appreciated.
It is possible to use PC VGA monitors with the built-in video of the
LC. Exact manner of attachment not yet known, but I expect it is just
a matter of connecting the video through and then grounding the right
sequence of pins to indicate to the LC what sort of monitor is
connected.
_______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 10:04:11 EST
From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: LEFTIES
>From: bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral)
> > Actually, I'm left handed and find that I work much better with the
> > mouse in the standard right hand position. Why? Because it keeps my
> > left hand free for writing. I mouse much better with my right hand
> > than with my left, and I'm EXTREMELY left handed.
>
> I'm left handed, too, and I agree with Keith. On odd occasions I consider
> left mousing, but it feels strange, so I've never stuck with it. My
> daughter is a leftie as well and has never raised the issue; I gather
> it has never concerned her.
Maybe you're not a true lefty (with verbal orientation on the
left brain and spatial orientation on the right). If you mouse
with your right hand, and your spatial functions are on the
right, the signals have to cross the corpus callosum. Me, I
can't mouse right to save my soul.
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 91 15:18 N
From: <VJAL2314%DS0RUS54.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Mac Spare Parts Sources ?
*********************** I R S ***********************
Frank Pohlemann Institut fuer Raumfahrtsysteme
Universitaet Stuttgart - Germany
BITNET/PROFS/JNET: vjal2314@ds0rus54.earn
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TO: infomac
SUBJECT: Mac Spare Parts Sources ?
This is the end of a long story: I have every reason to suspect that both
serial ports of my Mac SE are shot. They must have failed in such a fashion
that all outgoing and incoming data is transmitted ok, but at the same time,
the ports generate ADDITIONAL, PHANTOM characters that appear as incoming
data for the applications. (Has anyone ever heard about such a crazy failure ?)
Hence, I get strange characters in VersaTerm, as well as untrue and self-
disappearing 'paper out' or 'paper jam' messages while printing with the
DeskWriter driver. The problems first surfaced after adding a Syquest drive
as second device in the SCSI chain. However, they did not go away after
disconnecting the drive.
I have tried and checked everything, System Software, INIT conflicts, SCSI,
etc. etc., but the problems have persisted. To make things the worst, the
phantom data is sporadic on either port, but never in ANY reproducable fashion.
This is not a known bug or failure with either Apple, Jasmine (Syquest drive)
or Dove (my 020 accelerator board). Also, the book by Larry Pina ('Macintosh
Repair Secrets') is silent on the serial ports.
So by now, I am totally fed up, using an Atari to write this and call for help.
If I take the Mac to a dealer for testing, either:
1.) no hardware failures can be diagnosed, but the symptoms prevail.
2.) the serial ports ARE damaged, and the friendly dealer will gladly
swap my motherboard for the price of a good used car.
So to come to my question, finally:
There are components/spare parts dealers in the U.S., at least I have spotted
two ads in MacUser magazine (Sun Remarketing and a company in Texas). Has
anyone ever had experience with such companies ? Is it safe to buy a
replacement motherboard from them ? Is it cheap ? Is it worth the hassle ?
At the same time, are there sources for 256K SIMMS ? I need two of these
ancient artifacts to get my then-2.5-MB and now-4-MB Mac to a future-5-MB
configuration with 1MB main memory and 4MB on the accelerator card.
Thank you very much for having read this far. I would dearly appreciate if
someone could share his opinion/experience with me. BITNET/JNET see above.
Frank Pohlemann
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DISCLAIMER: " ... "
(This is a university, so no one even CARES what I think.)
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Date: Wednesday, 23 Jan 1991 15:34:56 EST
From: m21743@mwvm.mitre.org (Kenneth Falkenstein)
Subject: memory-managment-fix INIT problems
Dear Netdudes and dudettes,
I saw the MMInit sub to info-mac yesterday and was thrilled! Someone who
knows the mac finally wrote a patch to the memory mgt bug. I downloaded it,
expanded it and popped it into the System Folder. I had all kinds of problems
after that, mainly with DAs. Most would start to open, then immediately close.
The control panel icon was tiny (apprx 0.25 x 0.5 in.). After removing MM Init
and rebooting the problem still existed. Rebooted on another ci and it still
existed. A co-worker who also installed MM had problems with folders closing
when applications (MSWord) were launched. Do you know of any of these such
problems? Config: MacIIci, 5 meg, System 6.0.4, Finder 6.1.4 Inits: Virex,
all Norton Util inits, OnCue, Pyro, SuperClock, DataPak (for my removable HD)
After trashing and rebuilding the System Folder from backups everything was
back to normal. Thanks in advance.
Ken Falkenstein Internet: m21743@mwvm.mitre.org
The MITRE Corporation Disclaimer: Who me...?
McLean, VA
*
* Kenneth
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 16:52:44 EST
From: Chris Jones <UOG00162@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: My request for an Internet Address of yesterday.
Hi.
I have been talking to I fellow on the tech support staff at National
Instruments, and apparently they are currently *trying* to arrange for
an internet site to be set up there, but the "higher-ups" in the company need
"more justification". So, ANYONE out there who uses labview at all,
and feels that they would benefit from such a site, please send me
a letter stating as such. I am also sending in a letter stating why I would
appreciate such a thing, and will include yours to send in as well.
P.S. To the two gentlemen who wrote me, if it's all right, I would like to
inlcude your letters in with mine. If you would rather change the wording,
please send what you would like put in. (or if you wouldn't like to say
anything, please tell me....)
No special rush, but in the next day or so would be appreciated...
Chris Jones
Bitnet: UOG00162@VM.UOGUELPH.CA
snail: 14 Strathmere Pl., Guelph, ON
N1H 5L8, Canada
Don't force it. Use a bigger hammer.
If weather bureaus were honest, they would call themselves non prophet
organizations... Anon
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Date: 23 Jan 91 20:40 GMT
From: LAICHI.SPT@applelink.apple.com (Axis, Hector Rojas, Chile,ICC)
Subject: Optima Removable HD info?
Does anybody have information about or experiences with the Optima Technology
DisKovery 45R Removable, which uses a SyQuest mechanism? The February 1991
issue of MacUser (yes, we read the future here ;) compares a whole bunch of
removible hard disks, but not the Optima, noting that it didn't arrive in time
to be included in their lab tests.
Please let me know what you think about the Optima Removable. Thanks for your
help!
-- Thomas Fruin Technical Support, Apple Chile
AppleLink: LAICHI.SPT laichi.spt@applelink.apple.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 13:21:39 EST
From: Brian VanHeesch <bpvanheesch@dahlia.waterloo.edu>
Subject: Relative file system on HC20
Help. I'm looking for a hypercard xcmd or even a HC command that will
allow me to store fields of data on a disk (via a file) and that I can
retrieve any record (or line) of that file without having to read the et <-opps
entire file. Can you point me in the right direction.
Thank-you.
Brin Brian VanHeesch at University of Waterloo
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 15:37:53 -0500
From: johnb@mbcrr.harvard.edu (John Bergsagel)
Subject: Stack for tech notes
In the introduction to the utility "xbin-to-binary" in the unix
directory there is a reference to a hypercard stack of tech notes ostensibly
dealing with the intricacies of downloading mac software over Internet
using unix machines. Whre is this stack? Is it on sumex-aim?
Any pointers to general help on unix for a macophile mired in unix
would also be appreciated.
John Bergsagel johnb@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 16:02:27 EST
From: Cheng-Dar Yang <cy1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
Subject: SuperSpool 5.0 and ATM
It appears from the output that I am receiving from my printer that
SuperSpool 5.0 is unable to print documents containing characters of
fractional width. This is unfortunate, as I print a great deal using
ATM 1.0, and the output from the spooler is always an overlapping mess.
Does anyone know if there is a way (be it a hack, a patch, a tip, ATM 2.0,
whatever) to circumvent this problem?
Thanks,
Cheng-Dar Yang
cy1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 91 18:06:52 EST
From: siegel@das.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel)
Subject: Thank You, Symantec!
>MORAL: while frustration is understandable, it may be prudent to keep
>flaming of vendors down to reasonable levels of indignation (on the old
>theory about attracting more flies with honey than vinegar). More and more
>employees of vendors are finding their way to public access unix, AppleLink,
>company computers, etc. Even when participation is unofficial, copies of
>email may find there way to company routing slips. If you've got a reasonable
>point, you may be rewarded.
Truer words were never spoken. :-)
R.
--
Rich Siegel Symantec Languages Group Internet: siegel@endor.harvard.edu
"...she's dressed in yellow, she says 'Hello, come sit next to me, you
fine fellow..."
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 91 23:00:38 PST
From: USERXF7B@cc.sfu.ca
Subject: Well, *I* like WingZ....
In Info-Mac V9 #18 some fellow flames on WingZ for a lame user interface.
I realize insulting WingZ wasn't his main point, but since I see criticisms
of this sort often I'd like to get on a soapbox and defend WingZ :-)
Folks, WingZ is not really a spreadsheet program in the conventional sense.
It's closer to a code library of numerical and user-interface functions that
the capable programmer can build into a customized application. Especially
with the glue some way cool Apple guy wrote to let WingZ use basically any
HyperCard XCMD, I'm using it more and more as an applications development
environment. Heck, the entire user interface you see is contained in text
files that anyone can edit! Don't like the submenus? Well, move them to
their own menu then! Rearrange them! Delete them! Go wild! :-)
I won't go so far as to claim that the onus is on the user to redesign WingZ
to suit them, but all the flamers seem to have completely missed the fact
that every aspect of the interface is under their control if they choose to
expend a rather small amount of effort in learning HyperScript.
Thank you for your attention ;-)
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Date: 23 Jan 91 20:40 GMT
From: LAICHI.SPT@applelink.apple.com (Axis, Hector Rojas, Chile,ICC)
Subject: Writing XCMDs with MPW C++?
How does one write XCMD and XFCN resources in MPW C++? I am forwarding this
question for someone who is trying to do the above. He tells me the C++
preprocessor tries to create global variables and other stuff which is not
allowed in standalone code resources (such as XCMDs and XFCNs).
Has anybody solved this problem? If so, would s/he be willing to help me?
Thanks in advance for your help!
-- Thomas Fruin Technical Support, Apple Chile
AppleLink: LAICHI.SPT laichi.spt@applelink.apple.com
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