[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V9 #21

info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (01/29/91)

Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 28 Jan 91       Volume 9 : Issue 21  

Today's Topics:

      [*] app/yooedit-095.hqx
      [*] dialogfilter-102.hqx
      [*] SWLLogger 0.90
      15PIN RS232 LAYOUT
      anti-reflection screens for Mac
      cheap hard disks
      Chooser-maintaining settings
      CricketGraph 1.3 on IIsi
      Deskwriter or Apple's bubble jet?
      e-mail on network
      Fax-modem on Localtalk net
      Freehand - cutting off parts of a placed image ?
      hierarchical meuns
      IBM files w/Mac
      Info-Mac Digest V9 #19
      Info-Mac file catalog stack
      Inside Macintosh and How the Mac CAN Survive
      Looking for the MacSim microcode simulator
      Pascal
      Shareware Fees
      Special Gamma?  Info-Mac-Stack?
      Superdrive and IBM/Mac xfer
      Symbol Bold
      SyQuest Removable drives
      text trans
      Using tk50 tape drive to backup a mac
      Zapf-Dingbats (?) font

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Date: Mon, 21 Jan 91 18:56 CST
From: "Ken R. Lunde" <KLUNDE@vms.macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: [*] app/yooedit-095.hqx

This file is an editor written by Yooichi Tagawa in Japan. It comes with a
README file in Japanese, but its menus are all in English. I find that it works
quite well. Users of the Japanese OS (KanjiTalk) will find it extra valuable.
Stuffed and binhexed. Enjoy!
 
Ken R. Lunde
klunde@vms.macc.wisc.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/app/yooedit-095.hqx; 120K]

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 91 09:49:19 +0100
From: Roland.Mansson@ldc.lu.se
Subject: [*] dialogfilter-102.hqx

DialogFilter is a Control Panel device (cdev) that gives keyboard
shortcuts in most modal dialogs and alerts. Keyboard Buttons lets
you click on buttons from the keyboard. ESC and cmd-. may be used
instead of the "Cancel" button. Copy/Paste is supported in all
fields with editable text. Double-clicking on a check box or
radio button is equivalent to a single click on it and a click on
the "OK" button.

DialogFilter requires the 128K ROM and System 3.2 or later.
Documentation is included (in MacWrite 5 format). This update
fixes two minor bugs in version 1.0.

ShareWare $8. Written by Roland Mansson.
Copyright 1990 SiC! Development HB, Sweden. All Rights Reserved.

[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/dialog-filter-102.hqx; 62K]

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Date: 22 Jan 91 00:48:31 GMT
From: chuq@apple.com (The Wandering Phew)
Subject: [*] SWLLogger 0.90

This stack (requires Hypercard 2.0) is the first release of a combination
Frequency and reception library and receiver memory tracker. See the help
screen for more information. Comments and feedback encouraged!

[Archived as /info-mac/card/swl-logger-090.hqx; 39K]

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 15:26:45 SST
From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: 15PIN RS232 LAYOUT

I have access to a Pioneer Laserdisc Player with a 15 pin Rs232
connector. Can anyone give me the layout of the 15 pins so I can hook
it to my Mac II?

Please reply to isstth@nusvm.

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 16:01:00 EST
From: saper@norway.biop.umich.edu (Mark A. Saper (313)764-3353)
Subject: anti-reflection screens for Mac

Can anyone recommend a good anti-reflection screen for my Mac HiRes Color 
Monitor?

Thanks, Mark Saper

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 20:19:58 gmt
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <gsb1@forth.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: cheap hard disks

We have an offer of cheap mac Pluses, the option might work for
impecunious students who could however stretch to buying the plus.
however we would prefer them to have say a cheap 20 meg (reliable
:-))hard disk with the plus. ~any ideas on this greatly appreciated

*******************************************************************************
Snailmail: Gordon Byron,  Arts Computing Advisor,Pathfoot Building, 
University of Stirling,FK9 4LA  Stirling, Scotland, UK.
Voice:  Phone: 0786 73171: Ext 7266  
*******************************************************************************

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 08:50:12 EST
From: Pete Tamas <V5296E%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Chooser-maintaining settings

Earlier, I suggested using Secure Init to maintain settings. This init works
by keeping a backup of the file in question in an invisible format (invisible
to the Finder, but otherwise accessible). On start-up, it erases the file
and replaces it with the file in question. I'm not sure which cdev would be use
d to maintain chooser settings, but perhaps they are kept in the printer driver
(any ideas?)--Pete
Acknowledge-To: <V5296E@TEMPLEVM>

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Date: 25 Jan 91 20:07:20 GMT
From: mcmac@hubcap.clemson.edu (Scott McAlister)
Subject: CricketGraph 1.3 on IIsi

We're having a problem running CricketGraph on a IIsi.  It runs
fine on a IIsi with 4megs, but it will not run on one with only
2 megs.  CG's memory request size is 768K and we have over 1000K
free.  CG just quits under MultiFinder and it gives a bus error
under plain Finder. Any ideas??

-- Scott McAlister    mcmac@hubcap.clemson.edu
   Micro Center at Clemson University

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Date: 24 Jan 91 20:42:09 GMT
From: gt0809d@prism.gatech.edu (gt0809d gt0809d gt0809d HERRI,GUNAWAN)
Subject: Deskwriter or Apple's bubble jet?

Hi netters, pros. I am currently so confused about which printer I should buy.
I heard from many people that DeskWriter is a good buy for casual printing work,
while some people claim that Apple's new bubble jet will kill Deskwriter.
The last update I heard about Bubble is that Apple will announce it on March.

Okay, now I need a printer badly for my papers. For quality, i think Deskwriter
will enough. Should I wait for Apple or just go ahead with Deskwriter?
If wait, is anybody have more information about when Apple will release the
bubble? 
For experts at Hewlett Packard and at Apple, do you have any suggestions for me?

Any helps and comments will be really appreciated. Please reply through E-mail,
I will post if necessary.

Thanks so much,
herri, gunawan.
herri@emperor.gatech.edu

PS: How can I print font Palatino and New Century brunswick on both Deskwriter and incoming Bubble?

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 18:01:17 EST
From: Steven Cantor <SLC%HARVARDA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: e-mail on network

we have a novell network here w/both Macs and PCs attached to a PC
server.  we are looking for the best possible e-mail package(s).
i would welcome comments from any and all who have tackled this
issue, i.e. one package that can handle both platforms (which, and
how effective is it?), or one package for the Macs and one for
the PCs (which, how effective are they, and how does one address
the problem of e-mail across platforms).
thanks.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 09:57 +0100
From: TFFJS@fyvax1.fy.chalmers.se
Subject: Fax-modem on Localtalk net

My wife works for a small organization that have a number of Pluses
with hard-discs and an LC connected in a Localtalk net to a Laserwriter.
They now want to connect a fax-modem to the net in a fashion so that
everyone is able to retrieve incoming faxes and preferably also send faxes
>From their own Macs. They are not prepared to have one Mac working
only as a server, but can have one Mac switched on at all times hooked
to the fax-modem. The fax-modem should be working in the background
so that this Mac can also be used for other work.

At present the plans are to buy an Interfax 24/96 and have it running in
the background on one Mac and Tops on the network to enavble retrieval
or distribution of faxes. All Pluses will be upgraded to 2.5 Mb internal
memory. There are rumours of software called Sharefax from Solutions
that perhaps also would allow sending of faxes from the other Macs on
the net.

If there is someone out there in net-land who has experience of such an
installation please drop a short note. Thanks.

Johan Swahn
Institute of Physical Resource Theory
Chalmers University of Technology
S-412 96 G"oteborg, Sweden.

E-mail: tffjs@fyvax1.fy.chalmers.se or tffjs@secthf51.bitnet
Phone: +46 - 31 72 31 30
Fax: +46 - 31 72 31 50

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 18:26:52 MEZ
From: Ewald Jenisch <Z00EJR01%AWIUNI11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Freehand - cutting off parts of a placed image ?

Hi Freehand-experts,

I've got a problem with Freehand (2.02) that I haven't found an
answer for so far:

When you import images with the "place"-Command into Freehand - how
can you modify them after they've been imported?
What I want is to *cut off* portions of the 'place'd image.

To me more specific: I've got some images of clip art that I want
to use in my graphics. However I only need parts of those pictures.
(Think e.g. of a picture showing some fruits: an apple, an orange and
a peach - in my Freehand-Graphic however I only want to use that part of
the picture showing the apple)

Well after a 'place', Freehand inserts the *whole* picture - and
I don't see any way to cut off the unneeded parts of it after the
insertion.


Any suggestions are very much appreciated

Ewald JENISCH
University Computer Center
University of Vienna, Austria

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Date: 25 Jan 91 17:55:44 GMT
From: rdclark@apple.com (Richard Clark)
Subject: hierarchical meuns

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Inside Mac V claims that I can put $1B in the key equivalent field and
>SubMenuID in the check mark field. But ResEdit does not allow more than
>one character in those fields. 

  You need to place an "Escape" character into the key equivalent field (i.e.
press the <esc> key), as $1B hex = 27 decimal = the ASCII "escape" character.

  In a similar vein, the "mark" field will contain a character whose ASCII code
number is the same as the resource ID of the sub-menu. (For example, the ASCII
number for the letter "A" is 65. So, you would create a sub-menu with a
resource ID of 65, then put the letter "A" into the "mark" field of the parent
menu.) Note that sub-menu IDs therefore are in the range 32-127, which is
inside Apple's "reserved" range of numbers (0-127). In this one case, it's
unavoidable.


Richard Clark 
Instructor/Designer
Apple Developer University

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Date: 24 Jan 91 23:08:14 GMT
From: 9531sons@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jamie Sonsini)
Subject: IBM files w/Mac

In digest <9101232340.AA29620@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> <CD03958%SWTEXAS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> writes:

>How do you use a Superdrive connected to a mac to read IBM files? Do you have
>to have a software package? I popped an IBM disk into a mac superdrive and it
>would not recognize the disk.

You'll need to use the Apple File Exchange program (comes with system
s/w I think, if I remember right). I've used my "Superdrive" to read
lots of DOS diskettes, but initially ran into a problem that stumped
me.  I think I now understand this, but someone else may know LOTS more
than me and I'd defer to anyone who thinks I'm wrong on this...but for
what it's worth...

The Superdrive identifies a High Density diskette by the 2 holes on the
diskette.  A 800 Mb (double density) diskette has 1 hole.

The default format on a PC, even on the 1 holer (double density) is to
format the diskette at 1.4 Mb (high density).  When this diskette is
loaded into the Mac it tries to read it as a 800 Mb (double density)
diskette, but the format is incorrect (it's really high density) - so
it fails.

If you have the PC format a double density (1 hole) diskette with the LOW
option, you'll get a diskette you can read in the MAC  (using Apple File
Exchange).  Or, you can use a real high density (2 holes) diskette, format
with the default (high density) on the PC, and be OK on the MAC (again
using Apple File Exchange).

Hope this helps,
					Jamie Sonsini
					UC Santa Barbara

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 1991 20:04 CST
From: CS220X2A@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #19

In Info-Mac volume 9, #19, nherring wrote:

Q:  Is reading Inside Macintosh the best way for a beginning programmer to
    learn about such things as the "toolbox" and other vague entities?

The answer:

No, absolutely not.  Inside Macintosh is very confusing for the beginning 
programmer and even for some experienced programmers.

The problem is that Inside Mac volumes are organized chronologically, so 
something you read about in volume I, may be deleted or changed in volume 5.  
Also, to read Inside Mac, you need some fairly technical knowledge of memory 
management, etc.

The absolute best way I have ever seen to learn Macintosh programming, 
(assuming you already know a high level language like Pascal) is to get the 
three-part series called "Macintosh Revealed" by Stephen Chernikoff.  These 
three books take you through every facet of Macintosh programming and the 
examples are written in Pascal (the toolbox's "native" language).

In fact, the "Macintosh Revealed" series is so complete, so well organized and 
so easy to understand, I'd suggest all beginning programmers buy this set 
instead of Inside Macintosh.  True, Inside Macintosh is the definitive 
reference, but I can assure you "Macintosh Revealed" has almost everything you 
need and you will get a lot more use out of it than Inside Macintosh.

Wade Williams
cs220x2a@ducvax.auburn.edu

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 1991 20:26 CST
From: CS220X2A@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Info-Mac file catalog stack

Recently I downloaded the Info-Mac catalog stack and started using it to 
extract the file listings from the Info-Mac digest. 

Everything went fine as I extracted the information from files that I had just 
downloaded the "mail876000038582854.mai;1" (an example, not a real file) file 
and then ran the hypercard stack on that.

However, when I extracted the message into a file with a simpler name using 
the mail facility on our VAX, a dialog kept appearing saying "This file has 
already been uploaded. Do you want to upload the information again?" or 
something like that.  Clicking on "Yes" results in an error message "String 
too long."

All of the files extracted from the mail utility had this problem, and the 
file listings had not, as the error message was trying to tell me, been 
already uploaded to the stack.  I compared the file I simply downloaded to the 
one I used the extract feature with to see if it had deleted some header 
information, but I could see no differences.

Any idea what could be causing this problem?  Do you get the same error when 
you use the extract feature of your mail facility to create the info-mac file? 
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Wade Williams
cs220x2a@ducvax.auburn.edu 

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 12:09:58 EST
From: Mike Flynn <FLYNNM%DUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Inside Macintosh and How the Mac CAN Survive

      In my opion, There will be a new version of inside mac soon after system
7 is released by apple.(I have no proof of this.) and I feel the inside Mac is
like a dictionary. It has all the words in the language, but can you tell me
that you can learn a language by looking at the dictionary. There are other
souces that can help you, and they'll tell you have inside Mac handy as a
reference. Try to look around for another set of books that can teach you to
program the interface.
      if anybody is a developer, could you consider this idea. Try to build a
compiler that is somewhat like hypercard. The user can design the interface,
then select the object and have the compiler link that object to a function or
a set of functions to exucte when used. an example: you've designed a dialog
box, then the user enters some data and hits the ok button, the program will
know that when ok is hit to check the data and then pass the data to the
function the is linked to the dialog box or the ok button. and the compiler
will be able the make this a stand alone application. If anybody could do this
they could be a revolution in the way we program graphic user interfaces. And
make it a lot easy for people to program the macintosh. This could insure the
future of the macintosh.
      We as a users of the macintosh should realize that they will be other
computer standards that will emerge in the future and the mac is not forever.
Look at DOS. it is still around, the reason for this is the large clone market.
Without the clones do you really think that DOS would still be hear today. The
life of the macintosh is in the hands of Apple, i think that they should sell
the crown jewels (Mac ROMs), not the new ROMs that are in the high end Macs,
but the ROMs that were in the 512ke, plus or even the SE. I think Apple doesn't
care about the low end, and alot of people can get in to the Mac world though
this clone market. A Clone market will insure the life of the Macintosh OS.

                                           - Flynnm@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 16:58:57 CST
From: "Juan M. Courcoul" <COURCOUL%VMTECQRO.qro.itesm.mx@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Looking for the MacSim microcode simulator

I recall somewhere in the dim, dark past (> 6 months) coming across a
shareware application which implemented Andrew Tanenbaum's MAC1
hypotetical machine architecture (from his book Structured Computer
Organization). It had a microcode simulator, on top of which ran the
assembler simulator. You could code your microcode and then program the
the thing in the assembler language you had concocted.

It was called MacSim, if I remember correctly. I can't recall if it was
in the info-mac archives (it isn't there anymore), or it came over the
wire on the Usenet comp.binaries.mac newsgroup.

Since I'm teaching the subject matter addressed by Tanenbaum's book,
I sure could use this program to make the subject 'come alive' (and
make the students exercise their gray cells by having them come up with
a couple of different microcode implementations).

Would anybody know where to find it ?

Thanks

Juan Courcoul
Monterrey Tech
Mexico

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 1991 8:57:51 CST
From: DAVE@gerga.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Subject: Pascal

Howdy!
	I just ordered me a Mac IIsi for home yesterday, and would like to
start doing some self-taught programming. I've decided that Pascal is the
route for me (having seen enough C code to know it is beyond me - my mind
isn't built for it). What I'd like is some input as to which Pascal is the
better. I am on a fairly tight budget, so it can't cost too much. It doesn't
need to give me the power to leap tall buildings, and certainly not so much
that you end up leaping OFF tall buildings from the frustration. I have not
ever really done anything in Pascal - I learn programming by example and by
understanding the structure, and I've examined enough Pascal code to at least
get started. Primarily, which Pascals do you use, what are their pros and cons,
how good are the manuals, and what are the upgrade policies? If you've had
opportunity to use more than one, how do they compare?
	I really appreciate any help on this. You can reply either to me or
the net, whichever. If I get any good clear-cut lines, I'll summarize to the
net. Thanks.

Dave Martin
Geochemical & Environmental Research Group
College of Geosciences / Texas A&M University
DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU  BROOKS@TAMVXOCN.BITNET

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 03:48:17 CST
From: cordwell@sesca1.sinet.slb.com (Neil Cordwell - Schlumberger, St. Etienne, France)
Subject: Shareware Fees

Hi Everyone,
I have downloaded a few files from the archives and would like to send the 
authors their shareware fee.  Since I live in France I obviously don't have 
a US dollar checking account.  Hence I must ask the bank for an International
Money Order which costs me 85FF (~$17) at current exchange rates.  I find
that this works out a bit expensive.  Does anyone know of a cheaper way of
doing it?

Neil Cordwell

Documentation Manager
Schlumberger Technologies               CORDWELL@SESCA1.SDR.SLB.COM
34 rue Necker,                          Tel:    (33) 77 33 00 07
42028 Saint Etienne                     Fax:    (33) 77 33 84 59
FRANCE                                  TWX:    300074 F
===============================================================================
DISCLAIMER: I speak entirely for myself, and my opinions do not represent those
of my employer.
===============================================================================

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 1991 10:16:28 EST
From: H_DOLBEN@unhrcc.unh.edu
Subject: Special Gamma?  Info-Mac-Stack?

Fellow Networkers,

1.  I was just wondering:  what does "Use Special Gamma" do in the "Options..."
dialog of the "Monitors" cdev on the IIsi and LC using a 13" color monitor with
the built-in video?  Further, what's the difference between "Mac HiRes Std
Gamma" and "Uncorrected Gamma", the choices in the dialog's scroll box? 
Naturally, I looked in the "Macintosh Reference" manual that comes with the
computers - no hint that I could find.  It looks as though changing these
affects the colors slightly.

2.  It seems to me that while the quality of the information in the Info-Mac
digest is improving, the input rate is growing.  This means to me that although
the information is more valuable, it's harder to filter effectively.  Wouldn't
it be nice if there were a HyperCard stack containing all the helpful hints,
techniques, reviews, reports and abstracts contributed to this digest?  There
could be lots of cross links providing many paths to needed information.  I
know it would take a lot of work, requiring continual updating.  I don't know
if this could be managed effectively by a group networking, as with the great
job done by the Disinfectant team.  It might be interesting to try.

Regards,
Hank Dolben
______________________________________________________________________________
Space Science Center - SERB               INTERNET:  H_DOLBEN@UNHRCC.UNH.EDU
University of New Hampshire                   SPAN:  UNHRCC::H_DOLBEN
Durham, NH  03824                            PHONE:  603-862-1391

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Date: 24 Jan 91 14:26:57 U
From: "Glenn Fleishman" <Glenn_Fleishman@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu>
Subject: Superdrive and IBM/Mac xfer

                       Subject:                               Time:2:26 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Superdrive and IBM/Mac xfers           Date:1/24/91
>From: <CD03958%SWTEXAS.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
>Subject: IBM files w/Mac

>How do you use a Superdrive connected to a mac to read IBM files?
>Do you have to have a software package? I popped an IBM disk into a
>mac superdrive and it would not recognize the disk.

The superdrive will read IBM disks only within specifically designed 
programs. To transfer files from an IBM PS/2 to a Mac II, I used 
Apple File Exchange to initialize a 3 1/2-inch disk in the SuperDrive 
as an MS-DOS 720K disk. The SuperDrive seems to have some 
problems dealing with IBM-initialized MS-DOS disks. I use this disk 
as a transport; the IBM reads and writes to it regularly, and I use the 
file exchange program to convert to and from Mac formats. There's a 
product called Software Bridge that contains dozens of popular 
conversion formats, and it installs in the file exchange folder and 
operates under the Apple application in the equivalent of plug-in 
filters.
      I sometimes need to convert PageMaker documents between the 
IBM and Mac. I simply take the IBM file over using no translation and 
change the application and creator to the appropriate types for 
PageMaker. (I haven't used it in so long I don't recall them.)
       On a related subject, has anyone heard anything useful about the 
Orange386 board? It is supposed to be better than an emulator, 
because it actually has a 386 and corollary chips on board, plus its 
own memory, etc. I'd like to combine Mac and IBM worlds in one 
machine, so any info. would be great.

Glenn Fleishman, typesetting supervisor, Yale U. Printing Service
e-mail: glenn_fleishman@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu
voice: 203 432-2899   fax: 203 432-7819
The opinions expressed are etc.

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 11:47 MET
From: GROENEN%rulfsw.LeidenUniv.nl@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Symbol Bold

In the beginning of the Mac we were able to print Symbol Bold on our
LaserWriter. Since a few years (after upgrading the Laserwriter) it is
not possible anymore. In the document (e.g. in MS-Word) a Symbol Bold
does appear normally, whereas the printer just prints an plain symbol.
To have a temporary solution we created a new font that represents the
Symbol Bold, but it is printed bitmapped.
The question: does anybody know how to get symbol bold printed (in
postscript) on the Laserwriter? Maybe there exists such a font, or maybe
I have to make some changes in Laserprep or Laserwriter documents.
Any suggestion is welcome,  after some years it really gets annoying.

Thanks
  Patrick Groenen
  Department of Data Theory
  Leiden University
  The Netherlands

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 16:21:46 CST
From: Randy Bradley <MARC003@unlvm>
Subject: SyQuest Removable drives

     HELP...

  Has anybody had any problems setting up a SyQuest 44MB removable
cartridge drive as the bootable drive for a Mac Plus???
  We set up the drive on several machines and used it to back up the
hard disk drives.  Then we moved it to the Plus (saved one cartridge)
and figured we could use it like a regular hard disk.  It works fine
if we boot off of a floppy, but if we try to boot from the drive, the
Plus just sits there with the blinking "?" disk icon.  We've tried
several SCSI addresses but figure there must be some bootable piece
of software that we are missing.
  Thanks in advance for any help.

P.S.  None of us remember seeing a manual with the disk drive.  It
      may have showed up without or may have been lost here.

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 20:26:08 gmt
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <gsb1@forth.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: text trans

We have to be able to copy text from the Mac to Word Perfect 5.1 format
"faithfully & perfectly" :-). Our secretaries in the university are
all stuck with dos boxes and word perfect :-(. In order to continue
the Mac "revolution" here we need to be able to demonstrate perfect
translation to the dos format. Apple File Exchange is ...ok. We havew
been saving docs via MacWrite II but some formatting gets screwed up
as well as other errors the secs complain of.
We are therefore in the market for a good solution. Are there drivers
we can buy to solve this, or better an excellent(not too expensive
file trans package we could rely on to use campus wide for mac to DOS?
all replies gratefully apreciated. i will compile a summary for the
net should this be wished for 

*******************************************************************************
Snailmail: Gordon Byron,  Arts Computing Advisor,Pathfoot Building, 
University of Stirling,FK9 4LA  Stirling, Scotland, UK.
Voice:  Phone: 0786 73171: Ext 7266  
*******************************************************************************

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 15:08:08 EST
From: craig@mako.stat.ufl.edu
Subject: Using tk50 tape drive to backup a mac

Ok folks, heres a request thats off the wall. I'm looking
for a tk50 driver for the Mac so we can do image backups
of our MacII to a tk50 instead of a jillion diskettes.
Anyone out there ever back up a mac to one of these DEC tape
drives before? 

--craig lee
university of florida

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 11:27:11 -0600
From: "V. J. Melim" <melim@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Subject: Zapf-Dingbats (?) font

   I need to obtain a copy of a font called Zapf Dingbats. I am not familiar
with this font. Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of this font ?
I did not see it in the info-mac archives. If this font is PD, freeware, or
shareware and someone has a copy I would greatly appreciate receiving a 
E-mail containing the font. 

Regards, 

	V. J. Melim
	melim@cs.niu.edu
		or
	melim@encore.mcs.anl.gov

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 17:05:05 -0700
From: con_mdp@selway.umt.edu (Michael D. Post)

Dear Net,

A friend is looking to purchase a hard drive from one of the back
of magazine vendors.  After much deliberation, she has boiled it
all down to one of the following:

Vendor           Brand          Meg

TMS              Pro            40
APS              Pro            40
                 Pro            52
Ehman            Ehman          40
Macland                         40
MacAve           Protege        40

All drives use Quantum mechs, so this is not a factor.  Anyone care to comment?
?

Anyone care to comment about these drives?  Please do so to
CON_MDP@SELWAY.UMT.EDU.  Thanx@

Mike Post

(Moderator:  Sorry about typos.  I'm using a UNIX box, and it is
NOT happy with me...)

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