info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (02/01/91)
Info-Mac Digest Thu, 31 Jan 91 Volume 9 : Issue 27
Today's Topics:
[*] cdev/vje-inline-23c.hqx
[*] SoundShrink.hqx
[*] Unit Conversions DA
APPLE BUS ERRORS
Bananna Junior 2000 Finder
Chess programs for the MAC
Color monitor with built-in degausser (summary)
DOS Mounter
FTP w/ BYU Telnet
HP LaserJet IIID with AppleShare
Intuit DOES support the Mac
Keyboard troubles.
Mac IIci and weirdness
Need Help: IBM3270 mainframe->IBM PS2->Mac conversion
New Mac user here.
Numerical Methods Hypercard Stack
Prototyper
RAM Alert
Tcp/ip without ftp and application builders
V-MAIL
Wierd date behavior
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 91 06:55 CST
From: "Ken R. Lunde" <KLUNDE@vms.macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: [*] cdev/vje-inline-23c.hqx
This CDEV allows in-line conversion using the Japanese front-end
processor called MacVJE (version 1.2 or higher). MacVJE is simply a Japanese
input program for a Macintosh running Japanese system software (KanjiTalk). It
also allows one to access certain Japanese CD-ROM dictionaries. In-line
conversion works in applications and DAs which use TextEdit, like TeachText and
the miniWRITER DA. Enjoy!
Ken R. Lunde
klunde@vms.macc.wisc.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/cdev/vje-inline-23c.hqx; 48K]
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Date: Sun, 27 Jan 91 17:53:12 PST
From: jncook@ucsd.edu (James Cook)
Subject: [*] SoundShrink.hqx
This file includes the latest version of SoundShrinker, version 1.2.
Changes in this version include multiple bug fixes, interface
changes and speed improvements. SoundShrinker is a program to
decrease the size of sound files while leaving them playable by all
programs. It does this by decreasing the sampling rate. Typically,
sounds are reduced to half their size with a marginal loss in
quality.
James Cook
jncook@ucsd.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/sound/program/sound-shrinker-12.hqx; 15K]
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 91 22:35:48 GMT
From: Michael Everson <MEVERC95%IRLEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] Unit Conversions DA
This is Dan Park Sydow's 1987 shareware Unit Conversions DA, which
Shawn Barnhart sent me.
[Archived as /info-mac/da/unit-conversions.hqx; 11K]
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 12:23 EST
From: JSTEFFNER <DGRAPHIC%OBERLIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: APPLE BUS ERRORS
WITH A MAC CI I NEVER SAW A BUS ERROR TILL I UPGRADED TO SYS 6.0.7. Then
I had enough bus errors to fill the "bus". There was never an error code
number listed. I switched back to 6.0.4 and everything has been fine
since then. Maybe this is another bug with 6.0.7.
Jim Steffner <DGRAPHIC@OCVAXC>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 09:35 PDT
From: "Bill the Cat sez: 'Remember. If some wierdo in a blue suit offers you some MS- DOS. JUST SAY NO!'" <NELSON%catlin.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Bananna Junior 2000 Finder
Dear Netters:
I'm looking for an old finder someone modified (a long, long, long time
ago- in the days when the 512 reigned supreme). It's called Bananna Finder, and
it's someone's implementation of the Bananna Junior 2000 (Bloom County). I'm
hoping to make a copy that will work with System 6.0.x. Having it on my old Mac
512 made my day much easier, and I'd like it again. Unfortunatly, I lost my
only copy (Make a backup, stupid!) in a power surge. If ANYONE has a copy or
knows where I could find one, PLEASE let me know. If you don't, no one else will
either.
Thanks VERY much,
Russ
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Catlin /--\ ----------- Internet: NELSON@catlin.bitnet
Gabel /--\ Bill the cat sez: "Remember, if some weirdo in a
School || blue suit offers you some MS-DOS, JUST SAY NO!"
Official sounding disclaimer: I'm not responsible for this disclaimer!
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 11:51:18 EST
From: William R. Swanson <traveler@think.com>
Subject: Chess programs for the MAC
Does anyone have opinions one way or the other on Chessmaster 2100 or
other Mac chess programs? Please respond directly to
hbuck@biostats.hmc.psu.edu
I bought the Chessmaster 2100 at the most recent Boston Macworld, and,
not having tried other Mac chess programs, the best advice I can give
you is "shop elsewhere first".
I already have two chess computers, including Fidelity's Phantom,
so I was looking for a Mac chess program that had something more than
just the ability to play chess and solve checkmate problems.
Like a fool, I purchased the Chessmaster 2100 on the basis of the claims
on the outside of the box: "Use graphics programs to create your own chess sets."
Once I started playing with it, I quickly found out that this feature is
virtually undocumented--no indication of how to create your own sets, nor
any real description of what the program should do when you select this feature.
I called the company (Software Toolworks) a number of times (an aside:
they have an 800 number for sales questions, but unless you like being
transferred every time it's a toll call to get directly to the support
department). It turns out that you have to use a particular "partner"
graphics program (Cricket Paint, I believe) to create the files of chess
pieces, something the Chessmaster's manual does NOT mention. Apparently the
partner program knows how to save files in the format recognized by
Chessmaster, so you can't just import PICT files. This contradicts the
packaging, which appears to claim that a utility is included to convert
your own paint files into chess set files. In any case, this seems to be a
"discouraged" feature--the gist I got was that they really weren't planning
on doing anything with it.
The rest of the program is pretty good (you can view the board from all
sides, and in 3-D; using the mouse to move pieces is easy and intuitive).
You can select many levels of play, including one called "Coffeehouse" that
plays "suboptimally"--it sometimes plays a less than perfect move. This is
as close as any chess program has come to a feature I want: "Human Play",
in which the computer simulates the follies and foibles of an inexperienced
chessplayer so that you can practice for playing chess against someone who
_doesn't_ have instant recall of book moves. (To be honest, I'd also like
to have this mode so I can thoroughly trounce the computer once in a while!)
The program even includes a number of recorded "professional"
games with built-in commentary that you can play back for your edification.
However, there are still some rough edges on this program. For example,
while I was playing back some of the "professional" games, I found that one
of the buttons on the control panel that is used to move through the game had a
tendency to jump up to the top left-hand corner of the screen! This is
clearly just a misplaced bit of code that redraws the button icon in
the wrong place, but it made me suspicious of other, less visible bugs.
It takes an unnervingly long time to load the recorded games, and although
there's some talk in the docs of the Chessmaster "commenting" on your play,
it really doesn't amount to much more than the program's recognizing when
you're playing a particular "book" opening.
All in all, the program's okay, the packaging's nice (they include a
short booklet on the history of chess that's larger than the instruction
manual), but there are clearly some bugs left in the program, and the
deceptiveness of the packaging leads me to distrust the product. I'd
recommend you look into another chess program first, and let this one
be your last resort.
--- WRS
P.S. If you're interested in a good strategy game for the Mac, take a look
at Toyogo's Nemesis Go program. I bought it at the same time as I got the
Chessmaster 2100, and I much prefer it. It's well-designed and featureful,
lets you play on boards of many sizes, enumerates moves so you can see the
history of a game, and the animation of moves is well done (you can ask it,
at any time, to do a provisional "count" to see who's winning, and it's fun
to watch it play out various quick lines to work out who owns an open region of
the board.) Above all, the manual is detailed and pretty well-written, and
conveys a sense that the people who wrote the program really care about it
and want to improve it--they even offer a "reward" for verifiable bugs in
the software. Give it a look, and see what you think.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 18:45 EDT
From: Marcelino Bernardo <BERNARDO%ESEMAC@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Color monitor with built-in degausser (summary)
In Info-Mac Digest, Volume 9 : Issue 25 I asked:
>I'm looking for a replacement for Apple's 13" color monitor which has a
>built-in degausser for use in an NMR lab. The fringe field from our 7 Tesla
>superconducting magnet would easily mess up the screen of an ordinary Mac
>monitor. Does such a beast exist?
>Please reply directly and I'll summarize to the net.
As numerous people pointed out, Apple's 13" color monitor DOES have a
degausser which is activated by pressing the button with the symbol of a
horseshoe magnet with a slash. I was incorrect in my assumption which was
based on our portrait monitor which doesn't have a built-in degausser.
Thanks for all the replies.
Marcelino Bernardo
bernardo@esemac@erevax.bitnet
mbernar@erenj.bitnet
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 1991 13:49:15 CST
From: "GERGO::DAVE"@gerga.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Subject: DOS Mounter
Howdy,
What with the discussions of mounting MS-DOS disks on Mac SuperDrives,
thought I'd throw in that I just received version 2.0 of DOS Mounter. It has
corrected the main problems that people complain about - it mounts much faster
than before, it can mount locked &/or full disks, and it gives you the option
of formatting for MS-DOS when you choose SPECIAL/ERASE DISK or on inserting a
non-formatted disk (both 720K & 1.44M formats). It is also a cdev for easily
editing the DOS extension mapping (lets you map a file to an application by
its DOS 3-letter filename extension - .WK1 can launch Excel, for instance). It
also works with removable media drives such as Bernoulli & SyQuest to read
disks formatted for MS-DOS.
The upgrade price was $24.95, Suggested Retail is $89.95 - though you
should be able to get it much cheaper from the mail order houses. Dayna's phone
is (801) 531-0203. When I called (after seeing an ad for version 2.0 in MacWeek
a few weeks ago) I was told that notices were not sent out to registered users
due to a massive data loss, so don't wait for a card if you already own it.
(Standard disclaimers, etc., as I don't have any association with Dayna
or the product, etc., other than as a user of their product, etc., but
if they want to throw gobs of money my way for this, etc., I certainly
don't plan to stop them.)
Dave Martin
Geochemical & Environmental Research Group
DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU BROOKS@TAMVXOCN.BITNET BROOKS@TRITON.TAMU.EDU
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Date: 31 Jan 91 15:29:00 EST
From: "MICHAEL R. ROMAN" <mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu>
Subject: FTP w/ BYU Telnet
I've downloaded the version of NCSA Telnet 2.3 that was modified by BYU. I open
a connection with the FTP box checked; the connection seems to open, but the
only commands that seem to have any effect are help and bye. All the other
commands just get swallowed.
What am I missing?
Mike Roman
mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 13:19:03 EST
From: "NANCY W. CLAYTON" <RSR101%URIACC.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: HP LaserJet IIID with AppleShare
Network Subscribers:
Does anyone out there use an HP LaserJet IIID printer, or any other non-
Apple Computer Inc. printer as a spool device on AppleShare Print Server?
I have seen a demo of the above HP on an AppleTalk network, and it works
fine as a Chooser-selectable device (the printer has an optional
AppleTalk interface). We also have a couple of HP DeskWriters on
AppleTalk as Chooser-selectable devices.
But supposing I want to SPOOL to the HP LaserJet? How do I "capture"
the printer in the Setup window of AppleShare Print Server? I don't see
any icon for the HP LaserJet even though its Chooser document is present
in the Server folder of the dedicated Mac on which I'm running AShare
Print Server. Rather, the only icons I see in the "Printer Types:" rectangle
are the Apple LaserWriter, the LQ AppleTalk ImageWriter, and the AppleTalk
ImageWriter. My local HP sales rep assures me that there is no problem,
and maybe this will all be clear when the printer and associated manuals
arrive.
Thanks, in advance, for any insight you can provide!
Nancy W. Clayton
The Research Office
University of RI
RSR101@URIACC.URI.EDU
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Date: 31 Jan 91 23:10:55 GMT
From: intuit!scook@fernwood.mpk.ca.us (Scott Cook)
Subject: Intuit DOES support the Mac
I was quite concerned to read Mike Harpe's and Ron Webster's comments
posted to the Info-Mac Digest regarding Intuit's support of the
Macintosh. I want to assure you that we are completely committed to
developing for the Macintosh. You will be happy to know that we have
an entire engineering, quality assurance, documentation, technical
support, and marketing team devoted solely to Macintosh Quicken. We
develop our Mac products independent of our DOS products to make sure
that we take maximum advantage of the Macintosh's capabilities instead
of just porting an existing product. This partially explains why we
have not had simultaneous upgrading of the two products.
We are currently working on some exciting new features for Quicken on
the Macintosh. However, to avoid vaporware, our company policy is to
announce our new products when they ship and not before.
Unfortunately, that means we cannot yet talk about what these new
features are. This sometimes gets interpreted to mean that we have no
upgrade plans for the Macintosh. This is incorrect. I appreciate your
interest in Quicken, and strongly believe that you too will be excited
about our upcoming product, and our long-term commitment to Macintosh.
Sincerely yours,
Scott Cook
President, Intuit
P.S. Not only is Intuit committed to the Macintosh, but as a user of a
Mac II at home, I appreciate your concerns for the development of
quality software for the Macintosh.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 09:31:51 PST
From: managan#robert#a%nersc.mfenet@esnmrg.nersc.gov
Subject: Keyboard troubles.
I recently upgraded the system on my Mac II to 6.0.5 so I could
use Hypercard 2.0. Since I have done so occasionally when I boot up
in the morning my keyboard is dead. The mouse works fine and I
use it to restart the system. This usually cures the problem.
I have had this happen even with a system installed on on new disk, i.e.
no inits or cdev's other than Apple's. Any ideas on what may cause
this? (I know intermittent problems are the worst to diagnose but
fresh ideas may help)
BTW one morning the problem seemed to be a conflict between the driver
for my Bernoulli Box and the Radius II init. If anyone out there has
a version of this INIT later than 1.1 I would appreciate a copy. This
would save me a trip to a dealer for version 1.5 since I can't download
it from Applelink or Compuserve.
Thanks, Rob Managan
managan%nersc.mfenet@nersc.gov
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 1991 15:36 CST
From: ADUS10@jetson.uh.edu
Subject: Mac IIci and weirdness
Here is a senareo from friend of mine that is having weirdness with his new
Mac II ci...I (we) would appreciate any hints, tips, suggestions (within
reason) that would help......Thanks already.
Mac IIci came with system 6.0.7 and finder 6.0.7 on it. 4MB RAM/80 MB HD,
13" RGB monitor, extended keyboard.
Installed on the HD: Public Folder, Broadcast, Virex, Pyro 4.0, Smart Alarms,
Appointments, MacEnvy -- Word 4.00A, Excel 2.2a, Filemaker II and other
applications.
Immediate problems: MacEnvy froze everything. I removed MacEnvy. Filemaker
files were scrambled, as was anything under print preview in Word (no this
was not a font problem.) Excel crashed (I'll get into more details on this
in a minute.)
I installed Word 4.00C which did nothing to correct the print preview problem.
I also installed a different copy of Excel (brand new, but the same version as 2.2a is the latest, according to Microsoft), without any effect. I also
dragged Excel Settings into the trash so the new copy could redo itself.
I then ran the installer from the floppy that came with the machine. It
did its thing, which took a while. This took care of the problems with Word
and Filemaker, Word appears to be operating flawlessly. I just received
Filemaker Pro and will be replacing Filemaker II today.
The problems with Excel continue. I have replaced Pyro with Afterdark, with
no improvement. Now, for the problems:
***IF I open a file from Excel by double clicking on the filename, I generally
get a system crash. Sometimes the message is "a system failure occured -
restart", and sometimes it tells me that "Co-Processor is not installed."
If I have to access Print Monitor to reinitialize a printer, I crash. Sometimesit crashes for the *#($(% of it.
Ok, anyone know of problems with Print Monitor and the ci? Excel and the
ci? Should I give up and buy WINGS?! Just kidding, I love Excel......
Any comments suggestions, would help.
Thanks,
Jeana C. Rogers
User Specialist II
University of Houston
JROGERS@UH.EDU
ADUS10@JETSON.EDU
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 09:54:53 CST
From: GR8679%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Larry Hendricks)
Subject: Need Help: IBM3270 mainframe->IBM PS2->Mac conversion
Have Mac programs on mainframe, but having trouble converting them to my Mac SE
30. Mainframe is an IBM 3270 and I am downloading them onto a IBM PS2. Once
downloaded on to MS-Dos floppy am using Mac File exchange, but only getting Bin
ary language that I can not convert. The file names are originally
<filename>.sit or <filename>.sit.hqx or <filename>.hqx. What is the extension
of Hqx mean and what does it do. If it is some kind of compression program
where do I get a program to decompress. I am new to this discussion list.
Any response would be apreciated in layman terms.
--------
Larry Hendricks
BITNET: GR8679@SIUCVMB
INTERNET: GR8679@SIUCVMB.CDALE.SIU.EDU
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 14:03:50 CST
From: "TOEJAM" <C471040@umcvmb>
Subject: New Mac user here.
Aloha.
I have recently married & my wife has an SE 30. I must admit that I am
more of an IBM user than a Mac user. Please, be advised that I am very
mew to the Mac market and if you start spitting out Mac jargon you will
promptly loose me.
Thus, I have a few questions which would help me to learn more about the
Mac.
1. The SE 30 has a 9" B&W screen built in. I would like to get color
capability. Is this a do-able thing? Am I looking at making a
sizeable investment to get this? Does anybody have any suggestions
on how I can go about doing this? I am used to the super VGA offered
by the IBM market. Is there a comparable item in the Mac market.
Since the SE 30 has a limited expansion capability I have no idea if
this is even possible, much less finacially possible.
2. The SE 30 is our only home computer. I would like to be able to do
my IBM work on the Mac instead of going out and purchasing an IBM
clone. I understand that there is SoftPC which is a software
alternative. Are there other alternatives? I use 3-D graphics
software, Wordperfect 5.1, and R:Base mainly. Can these be run with
SoftPC. Will SoftPC allow me to use the coprocessor for my CAD work?
If there are other alternatives will they run most of the IBM
software?
3. If I do end up using the Mac to run IBM software I'll need more hard
disk space. Can I dedicate an external HD to my IBM work? If so is
there a size limit that I'll be able to use (DOS has partitions of
around 30Meg)? Thus, would it be a waste of space to get a 40+ Meg
HD? If I try to get color capability will I still be able to use an
external HD (how many expansion slots are there?)?
That should get me started somewhat. I appreciate any info y'all can
pass my way. My address is:
c471040@umcvmb
Please feel free to pass me your advise, hints, suggestions, and your
TOEJAM
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Date: 31 Jan 91 10:21:00 MST
From: "5268 Spires, Shannon V." <svspire@sandia.gov>
Subject: Numerical Methods Hypercard Stack
In V9-24, Douglas_Sly@cc.sfu.ca asks:
> Can anyone help me with an address to get a copy of Brian Arnold's
> NUMERICAL METHODS hypercard stack posted here some months ago?
> I lost my copy and it is no longer posted in the archives. The
> stack is quite useful.
I found the stack on SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL. It is available by anonymous
FTP, in directory PD3:<MACINTOSH.HC>NUMMETHODS.SIT.
Caution: It's a .SIT file, not .HQX, so you'll have to FTP it in
binary mode, depending on what kind of host you're on. Let me know
if you need any help downloading from SIMTEL.
--
Shannon Spires
Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM
Internet: SVSPIRE@SANDIA.GOV
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Date: 31 Jan 91 10:42:00 MST
From: "5268 Spires, Shannon V." <svspire@sandia.gov>
Subject: Prototyper
In V9-23, Carl_A._Steinhilber.osbu_south@xerox.com writes:
> > if anybody is a developer, could you consider this idea. Try to
> > build a compiler that is somewhat like hypercard. The user can
> > design the interface, then select the object and have the compiler
> > link that object to a function or a set of functions to exucte when
> > used.
>
> There WAS such a beast as you meantion. An object-oriented interface
> developer. It was called Prototyper, published by SmethersBarnes...
> oh... probably back in 1988. It was a neat little package... let you
> build your interface from basically a toolbox... and let you link
> fields, buttons, etc. almost in the fashion you described. You built
> it as a quick prototype... then you would actually compile the thing
> into real code. It didn't sell real well.
Get with the program, Carl! Prototyper is still selling and is
one of the most useful tools in the Macintosh programming world.
You can interactively use it to build your interface and then it
spits out COMMENTED C or Pascal source code for you, which you then
take over to Think or MPW and compile. You can of course modify the
source code it generates if you want do to special things, and you
add your own code to do the "guts" of your application. The latest
version even lets you go back in and dink around with the interface
interactively AFTER you've added your own code, without destroying
your code. This thing is a godsend for quickly getting your user
interface done and letting you concentrate on the actual work of
your program. I use Prototyper all the time.
There's a competing product out now, called AppMaker. See MacTutor
for ads for both products. (There's also Serius and Prograph, which
take somewhat different approaches, in that they try to build the
entire application for you, not just the user interface.)
In my opinion, the FASTEST way for a beginner to learn to program
the Macintosh is to get Prototyper, look at the code it generates
and start modifying it to suit you.
As to your notion that most developers would prefer to build the
interface from scratch, I disagree wholeheartedly. While Prototyper
doesn't generate the cleanest code in the world, it is clear and
easy to understand. It makes a great starting point. I frequently
go in and rewrite its code once I get my application working,
so that it is more efficient and object-oriented.
--
Shannon Spires
Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM
Internet: SVSPIRE@SANDIA.GOV
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Date: 31 Jan 91 10:58:00 MST
From: "5268 Spires, Shannon V." <svspire@sandia.gov>
Subject: RAM Alert
The price of 1 Meg 80ns SIMMs is beginning to creep up. A price
check yesterday revealed the price is from $45 to $50 apiece from
the usual mail-order suspects in the back of MacWeek and MacUser.
Three weeks ago they were going for around $35-$40.
This seems to be because the Japanese manufacturers are ramping up
their 4 Meg chip lines and slowing down production of 1 Meg chips.
The price of 4 Meg SIMMs is going down: it's right around $200 now,
making them about as economical as the 1 Meg SIMMs.
If you've been putting off upgrading your Mac Plus or older Mac II,
now's the time to buy 1 Meg SIMMs.
--
Shannon Spires
Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, NM
Internet: SVSPIRE@SANDIA.GOV
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Date: 31 Jan 91 23:50 +0100
From: Joshua Lieberman <josh@mpi.unibe.ch>
Subject: Tcp/ip without ftp and application builders
Here in Bern we have a connection to CompuServe from a Mac (or Sun) through
Ethernet. But files can only be downloaded from CIS with non-ftp file
protocols. Does anyone know of a way to transfer files through tcp/ip
connections using xmodem or kermit?
Second question: I see several applications on the market purporting to
ease building Mac interfaces, such as AppMaker, ProtoTyper, ProGraph,
Serius. Before I drop $200.+ (or sfr1000+) on a random choice, does anyone
have information on the relative and absolute merits of these packages? I
have been using FaceIt resources, but am wondering if something a little
less awkward and convoluted might be available.
Joshua Lieberman <josh@mpi.unibe.ch>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 12:19 EST
From: JSTEFFNER <DGRAPHIC%OBERLIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: V-MAIL
HI NETTERS,
Does anyone have any knowledge about "V-MAIL" which should be access-
able over the net somewhere. What connections are needed? What are the
procedures? Any help, greatly appreciated.
Jim Steffner <DGRAPHIC@OCVAXC>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 11:34:52 EST
From: jbotz%MHC.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Wierd date behavior
My office mate's Mac IIcx won't let her reset the date... it's stuck on
some day in the 20s. We can change the digits in the "General" cdev, but
the clicking anywhere else causes it go back to what it was. I tried
reseting the parameter RAM (via cmd-opt-shift Control Panel) AND I tried
removing the battery for a few minutes (yes, you can do that on the IIcx)
to no avail. Anybody seen this behavior..? Any ideas..?
- Jurgen
___________________________________________________________________________
Jurgen Botz | Internet: JBotz@MHC.bitnet ..or..
Academic Computing | JBotz%MHC.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Mount Holyoke College | Compu$erve: 70531,600 (rarely)
South Hadley, MA, USA | Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
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Date: Thu, 31 Jan 91 09:53 PDT
From: DEADRICK@ccc.llnl.gov
Recent benchmarks by Jean-Pierre Muller have shown that the speed performance
of the MacIIsi is poor when operating in the 256 color mode. However, turning
off the color mode is not the only answer --- turning OFF the RAM Cache also
helps! The benchmarks shown below were run with Speedometer on a 2Meg MacIIsi
with a 13 inch color monitor and with no FPU.
Configuration Whetstones Dhrystone Sieve Savage
256 Colors, 128K RAM Cache on 32.09 2586.2 4.850 75.93
256 Colors, 32K RAM Cache on 32.14 2588.4 4.867 75.93
256 Colors, RAM Cache off 48.86 4665.6 4.733 50.83
16 Colors, 128K RAM Cache on 44.71 4120.9 4.750 55.25
16 Colors, RAM Cache off 44.61 4120.8 4.750 55.23
B&W, 128K RAM Cache on 48.19 4552.3 4.733 51.73
B&W, 128K RAM Cache off 49.10 4665.6 4.717 50.87
It seems that by turning off the RAM cache off, performance improves even in
the 256 color mode. I don't know why the Sieve benchmark does not show as
great an improvement as the the other tests.
By way of comparison, the speedometer results on a MacIIcx show the following:
256 Colors, 128K RAM Cache on 60.98 3802.3 6.017 39.98
256 Colors, Cache off 60.48 3802.3 6.000 39.98
The best advice seems to keep the 256 colors mode on, but turn the RAM cache
off.
Fred Deadrick, LLNL, (415)422-8511
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