[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V9 #46

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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 21 Feb 91       Volume 9 : Issue 46  

Today's Topics:

      2-sided printing?
      Appointment Utility
      ATM Fonts (MAC <-> IBM)
      casio<=>mac
      cd roms
      Desktop bus switch...
      FTP nodes
      HP DeskWriter cartridge refill
      IIFX_SUM
      INIT Conflicts Fixed
      Limiting multiple copies to LaserWriter
      Listings galore !!!
      Mac IIfx and an external SCSI HD.
      Mac IIfx and external SCSI's
      Mac II upgrades
      Macintosh Logo?
      MacX vs. eXodus
      Motorola 68040 Information
      Pearl Lisp wanted
      query; color overhead projection units
      Question about game Space Rogue
      Questions/Problems
      README - TeachTextMaker - ShareWare
      SCSI Probe
      Shanghi 2.0 & System 6.0.7
      Speeding up MacPlus. How?
      Standard Text Files (2 msgs)
      True Mono-spaced font

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Date: 20 Feb 91 17:34:00 MDT
From: "Michael DeKay" <mdekay@clipr.colorado.edu>
Subject: 2-sided printing?

Is there any way (macros, etc.) to print only the odd or even pages of a
document to a laserwriter (or any other printer for that matter)?  For long
documents, I'd be willing to to print the odd pages, turn them over, and print
the even pages on the back in order to save paper.

How 'bout a couple of checkboxes in the print dialog bow for this purpose?
Do people think that would be a good idea?

If there any neat tricks, please post them here so that others may benefit.

Thanks, Mike DeKay, University of Colorado

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 09:31:54 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Appointment Utility

On 20 Feb 91 11:45:00 CDT you said:
>I am looking for a shareware/public domain/commercial software package that
>performs the functions of a 'personal organizer', i.e. daily appointments,
>meetings, regulary scheduled activities, calendar, etc.

You want the Remember? DA (version 2.1 is in the info-mac archives).  It's
FABULOUS (colors and sounds too -- you can set it to "yell" at you far
enough before an appointment so that you have time to get there :-)

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 16:57:32 -0800
From: jlouch%polyslo.CalPoly.EDU@ricevm1.rice.edu (John Louch)
Subject: ATM Fonts (MAC <-> IBM)

Hey out there in network land,

	I have a question about fonts between macs and IBMS.  I know I
said that three leter word but bear with me!  I have atm on both
machines and I was wondering if I could port my wealthy suply of mac
atm fonts to the ibm.  I took a look at the postcript fonts on my mac
system and everything seemed to be stored in the resource fork of the
file therefor I couldn't just copy the font to the IBM and have it
work!  Thanks in advance!

John Louch
jlouch@polyslo.calpoly.edu

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 08:02 CST
From: RUBLI@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx
Subject: casio<=>mac

Hi Netters !

For those who are interested in a comunication program (and conection info)
for connecting a CASIO Boss DataBank to the mac please write to

Rubli@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx  (Rubli@UDLAPVMS.BITNET)  or
Jaime@udlapvms.pue.udlap.mx  (Jaime@UDLAPVMS.BITNET

Disclaimer: there is no conection between Casio INC and this development.

==Alexander==

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Date: 19 Feb 91 12:17 +0200
From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es>
Subject: cd roms

This is a question for a friend of mine:

Is there any optical erasable driver compatible with the Apple CD ROM?

I'm interested on any report of optical drivers, thanks.

C U LTR! --<>--  JM CORTES<EPARI@etsii.unizar.es> // Univ.Zaragoza SPAIN/EUROPE

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 21:24 EDT
From: "G. Watts -- Rochester" <WATTS@urpas>
Subject: Desktop bus switch...

Hi y'all,
  Does any one know of a product that will allow the mac to switch on and off
an (better yet, more than one) electrical outlet?  For example, I could turn on
a radio, or something, from a program?
  One work-around is something like the Power Point switch (I think that is
what it is called).  It will turn your mac on at a pre-determined time, or via
the power-on key on an extended keyboard.  But what I want is simpler
(cheaper!?).  It also strikes me as something very simple to design (I wouldn't
be afraid of putting one together, just designing it.  Basic UART, yes?).
  Is there such a beast out there?
	Gordon.

Gordon Watts;  BITNET: WATTS@UORHEP Internet: GWATTS@ruthep.rutgers.edu

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 14:36:46 HNE
From: Carlos Reed <CLRPFSE%LAVALVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: FTP nodes

Howdy!

   Somebody gave pilot.njin.net as an FTP node,where we can find several
   FTP addresses....  hummm! It doesen't seam to work! Did I mised something?


       Cheers!  Carlos Reed from beautiful and lovely Quebec

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Date: 19 Feb 91 12:15 +0200
From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es>
Subject: HP DeskWriter cartridge refill

A thing to add about HP DeskWriter cartridge refill:

I friend of mine has a HP DeskWriter. He's going to refill the cartridges with
the same ink as the HP Color Electrostatic Plotter because these plotters use
the same principle as his printer. The references are:

    Cyan toner    17242C
    Magenta toner 17243M
    Yellow toner  17244Y
    Black toner   17278A

These inks go in 5litres bottles and cost around $100.

Has somebody any experience about the use of this ink for his HP Deskwriter printer?
Any suggestion?

Thank in advance.


C U LTR! --<>--  JM CORTES<EPARI@etsii.unizar.es> // Univ.Zaragoza SPAIN/EUROPE

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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 91 09:57:21 gmt
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <gsb1@forth.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: IIFX_SUM

Can anybody comment on the following query i have from a user who is
setting up a IIFX as a file server? Is SUM incompatible with
APPLESHARE? Is there a fix? All advice deeply appreciated
*-----------------------appended text follows---------------------------------*
re: IIFX problem:

We think we fixed it---at least, we've worked around it and we think we know
what the problem is.  As far as we can tell, you can't have SUM II partitioning
AND AppleShare server software active on the same machine---at least, not our
IIfx!  When you restart after installing the server stuff, the machine tells
youit can't find a valid startup volume, and instructs you to restart off the
`Server Administration' disk.  Unfortunately, you can't restart a IIfx from
the AppleShare `Server Administration' disk...

So we've junked the SUM II stuff for the server.  It runs now.  Unless you've
any particular fixes---like to make the two go together!---I'd close the call,
if I were you.
Sam.
*-----------------------appended text ends------------------------------------*
G. Byron Stirling University. gsb1@uk.ac.stirling.forth

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 18:19:38 GMT
From: s57783@zeus.usq.edu.au (chapman alan)
Subject: INIT Conflicts Fixed

Wow!

I Thought I had found a listing of init conflicts on the network about
12 months ago but it wasn't the standard of INIT INFO which I "found"
on info-mac (sumex-aim.stanford.edu) after about fifty messages prompting
me to look.  Oh what a dummy I am!

This stack advised me on LOTS of init conflicts. (Whew! glad I got out of
that task).  I will forward any conflicts forwarded to me to the real conflict
organisers Glen Drown and Gary Ouellet at compuserve.  I you have any conflicts
to send then send them to these guys.  From INTERNET use:

  73777.1142@compuserve.com   OR  73277.2757@compuserve.com

Thanks for the help (to all who helped!)

Alan Chapman ( s57783@zeus.usq.oz.au ), Tutor, U.S.Q., Toowoomba, Australia

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 16:24:14 CST
From: "Daniel W. DeNise, Sci. Pgmr/Analyst II" <C0016@umrvmb.umr.edu>
Subject: Limiting multiple copies to LaserWriter

In Info-Mac Digest, Vol 9:43, Ross Lonstein, LONSTERE8185@SNYONEVA writes:
>Does anyone know what to patch to disable the printing of multiple copies
>with a single job on an Apple LaserWriter?  The idea is to prevent users
>from printing hundreds of copies of a single page by executing a single
>COMMAND-P from MacWrite or SuperPaint 2.0

We had good luck using ResEdit to change the type of the 'Copies'
field from 'Editable text' to 'User item'.  DITL -8191 in
LaserWriter.

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 1991 22:28 EST
From: "Life. Boy, what a hoot!" <ENGLISH@northeastern.edu>
Subject: Listings galore !!!

Netfolk,

	Since you've done me so many turns, I'll turn you on to an
archive that'll knock you out.  Need to find a file...ANYWHERE ? On
any Networked System in the world (that subscribes) ?  Can't seem 
to find it on sumex ?  Ahh then your answer is ARCHIE.  No not the 
comic strip.  ARCHIE is THE archive for archives.  Its a little ditty
of a system thats in its working-upgrade stage.  I think.  Anywho,
I've used this system to find files mentioned elsewhere but not on
sumex.  Mac. PC, Atari, any file anywhere in the world. You name it
ARCHIE can find it.  I highly recommend this archive for the archive, ARCHIE.  
	So how do you reach ARCHIE ?  Simple.  Call him at his TCP/IP 
address:  132.206.2.3  To login into ARCHIE, at the (quiche) prompt for
login type ARCHIE.  Viola!  Your in.  From there find that pesky
file you've been looking for for ages but can't find at any user group,
BBS, or archive.  ARCHIE will find it...fast.  Why am I pumping up ARCHIE ?
Simple.  Its a good source of information that Mac folk need to know about
to find their favorite files.  Enjoy.  If you have trouble getting
though to ARCHIE drop me a line at my account here:  
English@nuhub.northeastern.edu

Enjoy.

Randy.

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 1991 22:01 EST
From: "Life. Boy, what a hoot!" <ENGLISH@northeastern.edu>
Subject: Mac IIfx and an external SCSI HD.

Netfolk,

	Here's a nifty question. I have an external HD that does NOT
have its own power supply (I must link to port for that).  I have access
to a Mac IIfx.  I want to use my HD, but the power supply port is being
used by the Monitor.  OK ?  Now the obvious question, for 100 dollars
is, How do I access the IIfx with my external ?  Thanks in advance.
Send replies to:  English@nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu

Randy English

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 1991 21:59 EST
From: "Life. Boy, what a hoot!" <ENGLISH@northeastern.edu>
Subject: Mac IIfx and external SCSI's

Netfolk,

	Here's a nifty question. I have an external HD that does NOT
have its own power supply (I must link to port for that).  I have access
to a Mac IIfx.  I want to use my HD, but the power supply port is being
used by the Monitor.  OK ?  Now the obvious question, for 100 dollars
is, How do I access the IIfx with my external ?  Thanks in advance.
Send replies to:  English@nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu

Randy English

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 00:21:57 -0500
From: tdh@po.cwru.edu (Thomas D. Halter)
Subject: Mac II upgrades

I have an original Mac II with 5MB of RAM and a PMMU and was considering 
various upgrades, and am soliciting opinions and information.  My options,
as far as I can see, are three.

1.  Upgrade 800K disk to a 1.4 meg FDHD.  The cheapest alternative.  Does
not improve system performance, but makes things far easier for me to
exchange files with other computers (MS-DOS and other Macs).

2.  Upgrade my machine to a IIfx.  I understand that this will cost about
$2500.  However, I have several questions regarding this, that maybe someone
else whose computer has gone under the knife can answer.
Does this upgrade include memory, or does that cost extra?
Will I need to get the FDHD upgrade, or could I (gasp) use an fx with an 800K
drive?
Is the end result actually a true Mac IIfx, or are there any differences?

3.  Third party upgrades.  I haven't really looked into these yet.  If there
are any I should consider, please let me know.

Any information would be appreciated.  Please include information about co$t.
If there enough response, I will summarize to the net.




--

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 09:20:18 CST
From: smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith)
Subject: Macintosh Logo?

Years ago I remember hearing about some group in Mass. working on a
Macintosh Logo, and I thought I even saw one advertised and sold.
But the last time I looked, I couldn't find references to one.
My kids are getting old enough for Logo and I want one. Does anyone
know if there's one out there any more?

Rick.
smith@sctc.com    Arden Hills, Minnesota

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 10:56:44 EST
From: matarese@earthcube.mit.edu (Joe Matarese)
Subject: MacX vs. eXodus

	The results, er, result is in!

	About two weeks ago, I asked for comparisons of MacX and
White Pine's eXodus.  Unfortunately, I received only one reply (thank
you to Todd Nathan <tn505981@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu>), but it
was interesting and it influenced our decision on which product to go
after.  At the request of some of you, I'm posting the verdict.

	According to Todd, eXodus slightly outhustles MacX (he did not
say which version of MacX), but both products are so slow (relative to
the X server on his DECstation 5000) as to be hardly worth comparing.
My experience with a (less powerful) DECstation 3100 is that its X
server is extrememly fast (MIPS chips & graphics go well together)
go I'll take this with a grain of salt.  But, basically, he says "the
mac was never designed to be an X server".  Fair enough; if you're
gonna use X, you should think hard about a low-end UNIX box versus a
Mac.

	We appreciate Todd's sound advice, but of course we are
destined to learn things the hard way and we'll try out MacX.  Our
decision rests upon the facts (a) that both products will seem equally
slow relative to our UNIX workstations, and (b) that we use the
Display PostScript extension to X, which MacX supports.

	So we'll set up our Mac IIci with an Ethernet board and MacX
and if anyone cares to know how this story turns out, you know where I
live...

latah,
joe

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Date: Wed 20 Feb 91 19:54:41-PST
From: Dave@sumex-aim.stanford.edu, HQNORAD/J5RP@tecr.nosc.mil, COLOSPGS@sumex-aim.stanford.edu, CO80920@sumex-aim.stanford.edu, 554-9696 <OWENS@tecr.nosc.mil> (719)
Subject: Motorola 68040 Information

Dear Info-Mac Readers, 
    I am doing a research paper on the Motorola 68040 Microprocessor for a
Computer Architecture course, and I would like to include any plans to
implement the 68040 in the Macintosh.  If any of you have read any articles on
this subject within the last year, could you provide me the name of article,
publication, and edition.  Thanks.
Dave Owens
OWENS"at"NOSC.TECR

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 13:50:22 cst
From: charles@calshp.cals.wisc.edu
Subject: Pearl Lisp wanted

Doesn't Apple provide Pearl Lisp as freeware?  Where can I find it?

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 15:36:08 CST
From: haidl@mercury.uregina.ca (Mark Haidl)
Subject: query; color overhead projection units

We are looking for a unit that can be used with both a color Mac and VGA
machine.  We have had a demo of the IN FOCUS 5000CX unit and were fairly
happy with it.  Has any one had good or bad experiences with the In Focus
unit or any other units that handle 64 or more colors? 

I will summarize for the net.
-- 
Mark Haidl, haidl@mercury.uregina.ca

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91  10:56:17 EST
From: "pmdmfmc" <pmdmfmc%buacca.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Question about game Space Rogue

Hello Out There,
  I recently purchased the game, Space Rogue, by Origin Systems;
however, I have a problem with it that someone out there may be
able to resolve.  Every time that I save a game, a some sort of
password becomes installed.  In other words, to load that saved game,
I have to know what the second word on the first sentence of the
third paragraph on page 14 (for example).  It is a real hassle to
have to get the manual each time and look up the password.  Is there
any way of removing this annoying feature of the game?  Perhaps, the
software company provided a means to do this that I am unaware of.
Thanks.

Ven Meka.

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 17:08:36 EST
From: PMW0%NS.CC.LEHIGH.EDU@ricevm1.rice.edu (Phillip Michael Williams)
Subject: Questions/Problems

Hideeho all you netters!

I have a few questions that I need some help in answering.  The first
to are short the last is lengthier.

First, is it possible to drive a HP pen plotter from a mac?

Second, the other day I was cleaning up my hard disk, removing unused
fonts etc, and I came across two called "No Name 9".  When I tried to
remove them a got a dialog box that said "Sorry a serious error has
occured" or something along those lines with ID=15,15744.  There was a
button to allow access back to the Finder so I returned.  I then
restarted my machine and could not start from the hard disk.  Upon
investigation I found that the resouce fork of my system was corrupted.
I then reinstalled the system and everything seems hunky dory once
again.  What happened to my system? I did check for viruses.  Another
mystery is now my Finder Startup icon, which was a generic document icon
is back to the mini mac.  What's up? Just curious.

The last and final question concerns the startup of a mac system for
the lab I work in.  Now it is strictly MeSsyDOS (YUK!).  I would
appreciate feedback on what the best system to buy would be.  Here's
what I want to do.  Data acquisition, either from A/D converters or
GPIB interfaces.  Preferably something that I could load the data
directly to Igor, which I now use on my own IIsi. I would like to be
able to use color graphics so I guess a mac lc or later.  I also may
want to expand to more mac later and network them.  I also would like
to find a laser printer that could be driven from a mac as well as a
MeSsyDOS machine.

Thanks for any help/advice.

Phil Williams
Lehigh University

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 21:44:49 +0100
From: Karl Pottie <GHGAQA0%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: README - TeachTextMaker - ShareWare

Thanks to all the people who reacted to my initial article about readme files
and TeachTextMaker. Since my original posting, I've received one shareware
contribution for teachtextmaker. I've decided to keep supporting TTM, at least
for a while. Some people mailed to me they were still evaluating TTM, so I hope
to get some more fees. Keep them coming !!! I'm only a poor student trying
somehow to justify the cost of a Mac a little.

The main reason why people don't pay, seems to be based upon the prejudice that
it is very difficult and expensive to get money to Europe.

You have 3 means of getting money to Europe:

   *cheque : unacceptible, because the receiver pays the transaction costs
             (up to $15) . Use only for site-licence payments (>$50).
   *international money order: the sender pays the transaction costs.
             Expensive for the sender, so not recommended.
   *cash: ideal for small amounts of money; Just put $15 in an envelope,
          and send it via AIR-MAIL. This method is quite safe. The sender
          only pays the cost of the fee, and the receiver can convert
          the dollars to local currency without any loss.
          This is in fact the way I got my first fee. No fuss at all !

In an e-mail a person recommended to get more exposure for TTM by uploading it
to more online services like GEnie, America Online, BIX, Delphi, ...
Unfortunately I have no access to any of these. Would any kind soul be willing
to help me ?

About the readme files: TeachText does fall short in some areas. But it should
be possible to add full font support to TeachText (or TTM for that fact). The
big question is: why hasn't Apple done this yet ?

It has crossed my mind to add font support to TTM, and release a TeachText
compatible reader which could display the fonts, to replace TeachText. The files
generated by TTM would still be readable by the old teachtext, only the fonts
wouldn't display.

But I don't know if it is good practice to release replacement applications,
-especially for an Apple product-, or even if there is a market for this. The
shareware response for TTM doesn't seem to point out that way. It would of
course be much nicer if Apple were to release a new version of Teachtext
themselves. Does anybody know the e-mail address of Bryan Stearns(writer of
teachtext), so that I could ask him if there are any plans in this direction ?

Any comments on any of this are welcome.


Karl

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Date: 21 Feb 91 09:38:00 EST
From: "MICHAEL R. ROMAN" <mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu>
Subject: SCSI Probe

Does anyone know where I can get the application SCSI Probe?

Mike Roman, mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 09:34:36 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Shanghi 2.0 & System 6.0.7

On Wed, 20 Feb 91 10:19:27 est you said:
>  I recently took my SE/30 up to 6.0.7 and found out that my version
>of Shanghi 2.0 will no longer work properly.  It runs for about half a game
>and then it quits 'unexpectedly'.
>  Can anyone shed any light on why and if there is a workaround for it (short
>of booting off a 6.0.5 System disk and running it)???

Download SystemSwitcher 1.1 from the info-mac archive.  You can then have
an alternate (6.0.5) System Folder (with System, Finder, and whatever else
you really need to run Shanghi) on your HD and use SystemSwitcher to boot
it (still a pain in the a**, but faster than booting off a floppy).

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 9:39:43 MET
From: Jochen Meyer <Jochen.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de>
Subject: Speeding up MacPlus. How?

Hello, folks!

I am looking for a cheap way of speeding up my wacky MacPlus. I tried out
the hardware-patch published in c't - a german computer magazine - a couple
of months ago. There they proposed to use a 16 Mhz 68000 driven with
15 and a bit Mhz from somewhere on the mainboard. They said it worked with
their Plusses, unfortunately it doesn't with mine, which seems to be due to
the chips used on the mainboard. The logic surrounding the CPU seems not to
be fast enough (the ram chips are!).

So has anyone out there experience in this sort of experiment? What could I
do to get this thing to run? Does it perhaps suffice to change just one or
two logic chips? Any help would be greatly recommended!

Is there any other way of speeding the machine up? I am looking for some
cheap way that needn't improve my Plus to a Cray-like speed, but rather to
say roughly the speed of some 16 Mhz SE or so. Any cheap accelerator boards?

Thanks,
       Jochen Meyer

B.t.w.: I need it to run the Soft/PC for the Portable on my Plus, which -
	after two patches - works fine, apart from being extremely slow.

Please post suggestions directly to me, since i currently lost access to
info-mac digest.

E-Mail: Jochen.Meyer@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 09:37:31 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Standard Text Files

On Wed, 20 Feb 91 13:35 EST you said:
>    (2) Then they introduced TeachText to fix the mess they created.
>    Not a very good solution, since TeachText can't read the previous
>    standard file (MacWrite).  So now Apple creates two incompatible
>    "standards".  However, even TeachText does not solve the problem,
>    since the lawyer's inside Apple won't let it be distributed freely.
>    TeachText is a trivial hack.  Why doesn't Apple allow it to be posted
>    in the Sumex archives?  Doesn't make sense to me, and means that
>    there is still no standard.

There IS a shareware DA in the library capable of displaying and printing
ASCII files (even TeachText files if they have no imbedded graphics).
Take a look at McSink (the commercial version, Vantage is even better and
the mail order price is only $7 more than the shareware fee for McSink).

The archives also have an assortment of editors, all of which (insofar as
I've looked at them) read ASCII files.  That's not really a "standard"
solution, but finding freeware or shareware to read an ASCII file isn't
really very difficult.

I also found MW launcher for MacWrite II in the archives.  I can double click
an MW document and MW II grabs it and translates it "automagically."  Don't
most other Mac Word processors translate MW?

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 09:08:09 EST
From: lti2!reg@lti.uucp (Rick Genter x18)
Subject: Standard Text Files

In his discussion of problems introduced by Apple leading to today's
mess in handling on-line documentation, <ELIOT@cs.umass.edu> writes:

    (3) The more fundamental problem, in my opinion, is the standard
    Mac "shell" program: the FINDER.  As far as I know the Mac is the
    *only* computer where the system/shell can't type out an ascii text
    file.  (Or EBCDIC at least.)  Even on a Vax the shell has commands
    to type a text file and process a command file.  By my standard
    the Mac FINDER is the weakest shell language I have every encountered.
    In many ways the standard file dialog with Boomerang installed provides
    better file manipulation abilities.

This is not true.  Unix does not have a "system/shell" that can type out an
ascii text file.  Even "cat" is not built in; if you remove /bin/cat, you lose
the ability to display a raw file.  I believe the same holds true for VMS.

MS-DOS does have a "type" command built in to COMMAND.COM.

The Finder is not a shell language, it is a shell.  Its "language" is that
provided by concatenating input events.  One of the commercial macro recording/
playback facilities may act as a scripting facility for the Finder.
System 7.0 will supposedly have a scripting language for use by advanced
developers.

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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 91 07:56:22 PST
From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: True Mono-spaced font

>Many of you use Macs to look at amino acid and nucleic acid sequence
>alignments.  But how do you do it?  Do you use monospaced fonts?  I
>use Monaco or Courier, but unfortunately making some of the letters BOLD
>screws up the character widths and the sequences don't line up.
>
>What I really want is a set of fonts that are
>        1) Easy to read, like Helvetica, and effective when published
>                as a figure.
>        2) Truely mono-width, and mono-spaced, including bold, italics,
>                reverse (white on black), etc.
>        3) Supports Postscript
 
First of all, if you install the complete set of screen fonts from
Adobe instead of the ones from Apple, character widths will not
change when you bold Courier (as it should be). Apple blew it on
this one. The Adobe screen fonts fix various other problems too.
They are free and you should be able to get them from a dealer, user
group, etc.
 
However, for things like DNA sequences, Courier looks pretty awful
and Monaco (ie. Monaco with font substitution off) is hopeless on a
LaserWriter because of bitmap alignment problems. Try it, you'll
hate it. Besides, it's slow to print and doesn't look professional.
 
What you need is a a good san serif PostScript fixed pitch font such
as one of the OCR fonts from Adobe. These work fine and look good.
You can see samples in any of Adobe's 'Font and Function'
newsletter/catalog. Your dealer should have this. By the way, the
turkey who typeset this catalog applied kerning to the fixed pitch
font samples, so they don't really look fixed pitch - even Adobe
screws up. sigh.

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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 91 16:45:58 -0700
From: con_mdp@selway.umt.edu (Michael D. Post)

Hi All,

I received a couple of messages asking for the Hard disk
info I got from the network.  Unfortunately, I have 
limited disk space and had to toss the messages.  To summarize,
the general response was to get as much space as your money
could buy, Quantum drive mech are good, and APS has nice
customer relations and service.  We've managed to confirm the
latter.  Beyond that little else was said.  Hope this helps
anyone who was wondering.

As a side note, can anyone tell me what the current
version of Microsoft Word is?  I'm running 4.0 (very
satisfactorially), but heard a rumor of 5.0 and am always
interested in an upgrade if I can afford it.  Thanx!

Mike Post
CON_MDP@SELWAY.UMT.EDU

(No, I have no connection with APS or Microsoft, so the
usual disclaimers apply.)

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