[comp.sys.mac.digest] Info-Mac Digest V9 #55

info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) (03/05/91)

Info-Mac Digest             Mon,  4 Mar 91       Volume 9 : Issue 55  

Today's Topics:

      [*] Detonator replacement for trashcan
      [*] GAME/EAR-AWARDS-15.HQX
      [*] KiwiEnvelopes! Postal Rate Info Updater
      [*] MacRoots5.7.sea.hqx
      [*] StopWatch utility
      Apple RGB Monitor
      apple talk connectors
      Archive Deletions
      BlueBusters
      Clarus the Dogcow
      Color / Grey Scale scanners for the Mac LC
      DESKTOP da for color Macs?
      Is there a "tidy-it-up"-like app for other folders?
      keyboards for carpal tunnel patients or other hand problems
      LocalTalk PC Crd & NCSA Telnet
      MacBinary (2 msgs)
      Mac programming instruction wanted
      MPW and SADE
      Poer Probs & Slapping Macs!!!
      PostScript Previewer?
      problem with a mac server
      Questions for You...
      Really Annoying AppleShare Problems
      Recycle ICL8s
      ResEdit 2.1 "change resource id" bug: a solution?
      Sargon IV
      Subroutines from MacForth
      System 6.0.7
      The MacClassic Keyboard!!
      THINK C questions
      Transfer of PFS files from Apple II to Mac
      Two MPW Questions

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 01:56:29 EST
From: Loren Ryter <ST701831@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: [*] Detonator replacement for trashcan

This is a ResEdit file which has the resources necessary to change
your boring trashcan into a thrilling non-politically specific
DETONATOR.  It has icons of a TNT box with the handle down when
empty and a handle that pops up when full.  This has the nifty
effect of a silent visual boom when it is emptied.  There are
resources which also will change the finder "trashcan" to "detonator"
and "empty trash" to "detonate."
Why just throw away your files when you can blow them to bits?
You can mail me if you like it.

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/trash-can-detonator.hqx; 3K]

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 1991 12:57 GMT+1
From: FRICCI%ITOPOLI.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: [*] GAME/EAR-AWARDS-15.HQX

1990 EAR Awards - Release 1.5 - Feb '91
"Excellence in Amusement Roster"
by Bob Nordling

This is a very useful collection of articles and reviews of a lot of games, eith
   er commercial or shareware/public domain. A lot of games are rated and divide
   d into categories, and information about them is provided.
By Bob Nordling, moderator of FidoNet's "Mac Entertainment and Education Echo" a
   nd consultant to America Online's "Mac Games and Entertainment Forum".

[Archived as /info-mac/game/ear-awards.hqx; 152K]

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 1991 2:24:48 CST
From: JWK4946@summa.tamu.edu (Jeff  Keys)
Subject: [*] KiwiEnvelopes! Postal Rate Info Updater

Howdy Netters,

This is a Bin-Hexed, self-extracting compact pro archive which contains an 
application which will update the postal information in the KiwiEnvelopes! 
3.0 DA.  The postal rates are current as of Feb 3, 1991. Help and instructions 
are online.

Jeff W. Keys
President, Texas A&M Macintosh Users Group

[Archived as /info-mac/da/kiwi-envelopes-updater.hqx; 40K]

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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 91 14:08:29 PST
From: jaime@tcville.hac.com (Jaime Villacorte)
Subject: [*] MacRoots5.7.sea.hqx

   I found the following genealogy program on a local BBS, and surprisingly,
   it is not in your archive.  I have not played with this package (I use
   PAF from the Church of Latter Day Saints), but it looks promising.

   From the (included) documentation...

	"...With MacRoots you can create a database of individuals in your
	 family history, edit information about them as you obtain it,
	 and view their relationships to others in your family tree.
	 Descendant charts, Family Group sheets, Ancestor charts and Pedigree
	 Charts may be either printed or displayed...".


   This is a self-extracting archive, compression done with CompactPro.

					- jaime villacorte

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-roots-57.hqx; 221K]

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 1991 12:30:49 -0600
From: npb@tulmath.math.tulane.edu
Subject: [*] StopWatch utility

Enclosed is a BinHexed Compact Pro archive of StopWatch, a free utility I
wrote for the principal purpose of timing and comparing applications,
programs and procedures.  A short ReadMe is included in the file.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/stop-watch.hqx; 14K]

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 16:12 CDT
From: Ernie Soffronoff <SOFFRONE@carleton.edu>
Subject: Apple RGB Monitor

	Howdy.  I have been reading the discussion about monitor troubles
with great interest, but haven't yet see the answer to my problem.
	I have an Apple 13 inch RGB hooked up to my IIcx using an Apple card.
About six months ago, the monitor started flickering occasionally, usually 
somewhere on the bottom of the screen (when it gets bad, the whole screen
really shakes).  The problem comes and goes, and slapping the monitor hard
on the sides and towards the back of the top of the monitor will get it to 
stop for a short time.  This is extremely annoying.
	The monitor also makes a really high-pitched whining noise which I
understand is not a uncommon problem with this model (something about a 
loose flyback or something, I was once told).  Slapping the monitor also helps
this.  The two problems usually don't happen at the same time.
	Anyone know what is going on?  Is it similar to the problem others are
having with their classic-style machines or is it something else?  I checked
that repair secrets book out, but it concentrated on small Macs.

	Respond to me and I will summarize.  Thanks very much-my brain can't
take much more of the flicker.

Ernie Soffronoff -- soffrone@carleton.edu

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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 91 14:49:18 EST
From: ken <LIEKENW%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: apple talk connectors

I need to connect several macs with a DeskWriter.  Is there any difference
between the Farallon PhoneNet connectors and the Tops connector?  I was told
that the Tops doubles the distance between nodes.  Is this true?
Any recommendations as to which one to use, problems with mixing the two?
Please respond to me.  Thanks in advance.

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1991 01:38 EDT
From: Gordon Dohle <DOHLE%Vax2.Concordia.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: Archive Deletions

In Vol 9 #53 Jon says
<[Moderator's Note: We used to have Binhex 5.0 in the archive, but I
guess no one used it because it is gone.>
Is there any way of knowing how long a posting will be retained in the
archives? Are deletions as sumex automatically forwarded to the shadow
archives? Is there a big archive in the sky somewhere where all those
golden oldies can be found?
Thanks
Gordon
Dohle@vax2.concordia.ca

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1991 14:24 GMT+1
From: FRICCI%ITOPOLI.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: BlueBusters

I remember seeing a couple of years ago a HyperCard stack, about 1.5Mb in size,
called "BlueBusters"... it was very nice.
Does anybody have it? Could you please post it to the archives or send me a
copy?

Thank you very much,
Alberto Ricci.

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1991 14:01 GMT+1
From: FRICCI%ITOPOLI.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: Clarus the Dogcow

Reply to: Technical Notes      From: "D. Bylsma"
Some of the tech notes, for example #31, are hidden...
If you have the Tech Notes Stack, hacking a little bit with ResEdit, you'll
find the 3-page tech note.

Moof!,
Alberto Ricci.

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 19:33 EST
From: Rhoadent King <G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu>
Subject: Color / Grey Scale scanners for the Mac LC

Hello there...

I just purchased a Mac LC, and I am in the market for a reasonably priced Color 
and Grey Scale scanner.  The HP Scan Jet +, the La Cie Silverscanner, and the 
Microtek MSF-300Z have all been recomended to me.
I was wondering which one people seem to have the best luck with, and / or other 
suggestions.

Thanks...

G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu / G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 19:41 EST
From: Rhoadent King <G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu>
Subject: DESKTOP da for color Macs?

Hello again....


     I have a DA called Background or something to that extent, on my Mac SE,
 which places random pictures on the Mac's desktop, replacing the normal bland
 screen.  The problem is that this piece of software doesn't work on the Mac II
/LC series computers.  I was wondering if anybody knew of a "new" version of
this DA that supports color, or an alternate INIT / DA which would do the same
thing.
     I do have an INIT called DESKPICT which will place a picture (in full 256 
colors) on the desktop, but this program will / can only show one picture 
instead of the random ones that the B&W DA did on my old Mac SE.

     If anyone has such a DA/INIT or knows of one, please let me know at the 
following address:

G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu or G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu


Thanks,
Gordon Werner.

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 19:57:45 -0600
From: Douglas Renze <drenze@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Is there a "tidy-it-up"-like app for other folders?

I'm looking for an application similar to tidy-it-up that would let me organ-
ize the zillions of files I have grouped in some of my folders (IE, like
alphabetically organize them in their icon formats?)

Please respond directly to me.  If there's enough interest, I'll post it to the
net (and I have already looked in the archives--I don't think there's anything
there).

Peace.

Doug
        internet:  drenze@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
      CompuServe:  70511,552

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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 91 03:39:34 EST
From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Subject: keyboards for carpal tunnel patients or other hand problems

In V9, #53, Gregg L. Kasten (proteus@medisg.stanford.edu) writes:

>As many people who type a good amount every day, hand discomfort can
>be a recurring problem. Some people even suffer from carpal tunnel
>syndrome (I do not know much about this disorder, but I believe it
>results from strain in the wrist and on the bones in this region.).
>Studies have shown that some of this discomfort can be relieved by
>using vertical keyboards, or keyboards shaped live an inverted "V"
>because primate hands are more inclined to function in a vertical
>plane.

>My QUESTION is this: Does anybody know where one might obtain such a
>keyboard?

The short answer is no.  The longer answer is that such a keyboard was shown
in the MacWorld special issue called something like "Is you Mac killing you".
It had the big radiation symbol on the cover, and I think it came out right
before last summer...  I think the one they showed had been custom built by
some guy, but it may have said how to contact him.  I seem to have lost my
copy.  :-(  Let us know if you find anything!

--Mike

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Date: 02 Mar 91 09:49 GMT
From: FALK2@applelink.apple.com (Austria - Alexander Falk)
Subject: LocalTalk PC Crd & NCSA Telnet

 >  Does any one know if it is possible to use a tcp-ip communication package
 >  (like ncsa telnet) on a dos computer with an appletalk pc card installed
 >  in it?
 
  Yes. In fact the package you want to look for _IS_ NCSA Telnet for the PC.
The new version 2.3 (which, I believe, is now available in the 2.3b14 (beta 14)
release) will exactly do the job. All you need to do is get yourself a copy by
anonymous FTP from the host "zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu" [128.174.20.50]. I don't
know the exact location in the directory tree there, but as far as I remember
it was pretty easy to find. All you need to do is download the file
"telnet.exe" (or was it "telbin.exe"), which is a self unpacking archive of
some sort.
 
A
 L  exander
  F alk
 

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 18:47:24 PST
From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: MacBinary

>I am wondering if MacBinary (BinHex 5.0) is available as a stand-alone
>application or is only part of some comms programs??? It is annoying when
>some archives (not sumex :-) don't use BinHex4 on their files and I (and I
>expect others) don't use my (their) Mac(s) to down-load stuff ...
 
There are two programs that do this, BINHEX 5.0 which is shareware and
one called (amazingly enough) MACBINARY which is freeware.  The latter
is in the archives as info-mac/comm/macbinary.hqx.

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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 91 22:13:07 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MacBinary

On Thu, 28 Feb 91 09:07:38 EDT you said:
>I am wondering if MacBinary (BinHex 5.0) is available as a stand-alone
>application or is only part of some comms programs??? It is annoying when
>some archives (not sumex :-) don't use BinHex4 on their files and I (and I
>expect others) don't use my (their) Mac(s) to down-load stuff ...

Download /util/stuffit-translators.hqx (and StuffIT Classic if you
don't have that already.  Toss the translators into the Translators
Folder which StuffIT puts in your System file.  One of those
translators will translate (to and from) MacBinary (under the OTHER
menu item :-)

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 09:10 PDT
From: "costello@amstel.llnl.gov (415)422-1012" <COSTELLO@amstel.llnl.gov>
Subject: Mac programming instruction wanted

Greetings,
	I am looking for a source of instruction for Mac programming.  I am an 
experienced programmer (11 years of assembly, C and Ada).  I have purchased both 
Think C and Meridian Ada compilers for the Mac and have a great idea.  That 
provides the tools and the motivation.  Now I need some knowledge.  Can someone 
in netland direct me toward a good source of instruction?  I have _Inside 
Macintosh_ versions 1 .. 3, _The Macintosh Programming Primer_ and one other 
book.  These are good sources, but it would help to siphon from others as well.

	Thanks to all who reply.

Ed Costello

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 11:19 CST
From: <MPARK%UTMEM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: MPW and SADE

Wayne Joerding writes :

>I'm forced to use MPW to write some ANSI C code.

You should be so lucky. I consider MPW one of the greatest things
running on the MAC and use it not only for programming but also as a
very powerful utility/operating system enhancement. It is, but the way
the answer to someone else's posting, last week, about whether there was
a way to copy, or otherwise operated, on subsets of files in a folder
according to their names. Use MPW, it is a full-featured command line
OS, with wildcards and more than all the operating system features
you could want. MPW is a text editor, but any text in any MPW window
can also be a command--they call it a worksheet environment and what
a great metaphor it is. MPW costs $150 (without any compilers).
Isn't that comparable to the cost of an MS/DOS upgrade?

>1. Is there a printf environment available somewhere so that I can have
>printf commands in an application compiled by MPW?

I like writing MPW tools for simple tasks (such as data analysis) where
I would have written a stand-alone program in years past. Nonetheless,
I recently converted a large program of that type, that had been written
to be cross-compiled as either an MPW tool and an MS/DOS application
(another advantage of MPW, its a vehicle for 100% portable programs) to
an even more generic computing engine that could be called from a
conventional Mac program. All the printf() calls became:

        fprintf(OutFile,...)

where I declare OutFile as a global whose value depends upon a
conditional compilation:

        #ifdef MPW
                FILE *OutFile=stdout;
        #else
                FILE *OutFile=0;
        #endif

and, at initialization, for example:

        if(!OutFile)
                OutFile=fopen(Scratch,"w");

followed by appropriate error checking.

>2. Does SADE work with MPW tools?

Yes. Check the file' SADE New User WorkSheet' for how to do it.

                Mel Park <MPARK@utmem1.utmem.edu>
                University of Tennessee, Memphis

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Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1991 13:01:57 EST
From: JK_APPLEREP@unhh.unh.edu (Joe Kazura)
Subject: Poer Probs & Slapping Macs!!!

>From Info-Mac #53:

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 12:05:18 gmt
>From: Mr Gordon S Byron <gsb1@forth.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: Mac Plus Hardware Problem
 
I know somebody with a plus who has to slap her hands occasionally on
each side of the monitor to bring the screen back to life. Crazy???

OK, this is a common problem... The connector on the analog board, power supply,
has a bad solder joint.  i.e. a loose solder connection!

Most technicians should be able to fix it in 15 minutes!

Regards,

Joe Kazura
Apple Student Rep.
University of New Hampshire

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 08:56:29 CET
From: Michael Daether <BF5%DHDURZ1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: PostScript Previewer?

I justed started to get into PostScript and have already wasted a lot of paper.
So I`m wondering, if anybody knows of a (public-domain) previewer for
Postscript, printing like a Laserwriter but to the screen.

Thanks for your help

                                       MICHAEL DAETHER

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Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 16:47:23 +0200
From: "David L. Hirschberg" <BNHIRSCH%WEIZMANN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: problem with a mac server

Dear People,

We have a 1 GB wren drive that is connected to a SE/30 server running
Apple Share.  When a file is saved to the drive the file saved is much
larger then the file.  It is rounding the size upwards to the nearest
multiple of 15kb.  For example if a 16kb word document is saved to the
drive, it lists a file of 30kb.  If the file is saved to a floppy
disk it assumes its original size.  Is this weird or what?  No viruses
were found with Disinfectant and Norton Utilities, but Norton Utilities did
find files with damaged resource forks although the file execute correctly.
If anyone has any ideas as to what is going on please let me know.

Also does anyone have a good way to back up a 1GB drive to tape.  We have
a Unix machine with tape drive?

Thanks in advance for your help.

David L. Hirschberg
Rehovot Israel

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Date: 2 Mar 91 12:07 +0000
From: DURTSCHIR%AC%CSC@csc.isu.edu
Subject: Questions for You...

 
 
folks,
I would  greatly appreciate answers to the following questions.
 
1. Is there any Macintosh point of sale software available for small business?
 
2. I know of a business that currently uses IBM Clones that is considering
    a switch to Macintosh.  They have been using Quicken for the PC. Can
    those data files be converted over and used by Quicken for the Macintosh?
 
3. I am looking into send/receive fax modems. Is it mandatory that I buy
    a 9600 baud to work with other fax machines or will slower ones work?
    Are they fairly simple to get up and running like other Macintosh
equipment?
 
4. Do the hand held scanners and the OCR software work well on a Mac Classic?
 
Thanks a bunch,
Ralph Durtschi         

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 19:42:30 EST
From: siegel@das.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel)
Subject: Really Annoying AppleShare Problems

For a long time, I've been having an extremely annoying problem with our 
inhouse AppleShare server. I've tried a variety of remedies, but nothing
helps.

The System:

	Mac IIcx
	System 6.0.5
	EtherTalk 1.2, installed by the Asante Ethernet installer 2.0.6
	8MB RAM
	600MB external hard disk, formatted and partitioned with
		SilverLining 5.26
	AppleShare 2.0.1
	Apple CD-ROM software 3.0.1

The Symptoms:
	
	Every morning (but never when I'm around), the server crashes.
	Before I installed TMON, the crash would be in the form of a
	System Error 02, System Error 29, or just a system freeze.
	Sometimes when the system crashes, one or more of the mounted
	partitions gets damaged, probably because of AppleShare's
	insistence on turning up the Apple RAM cache to a ridiculously
	high value.

	TMON, when installed, reports an Address Error when trying to 
	RTS from what looks like a _RecoverHandle patch in the system
	heap. The last routine which appears in an A6 stack crawl is
	called "DRAWSTAT". (How nice of Apple to provide Macsbug names
	in finished software, so that we can debug it! :-))

What I've Tried:

	Installing a new system from both the original AppleShare
	distribution and virgin system floppies; I've tried versions
	6.0.3, 6.0.4, and 6.0.5. None makes a difference. Along with
	this I've tried reinstalling the AppleShare software from the
	original floppies. No dice.

	I've tried running without the CD-ROM mounted. No dice.

	I've tried installing more RAM, increasing the installed memory
	from 5MB to 8MB makes no difference.

	I've tried installing a little INIT to grow the system heap
	at startup time. No difference. When the server crashes, there's
	plenty of space in the system heap.

I'm at the end of my rope on this one. This is a production server, which
is the mainstay of our office network, and to have it crash as often as 
it does is unacceptable. If anyone has any idea as to what's going on,
and how to correct it, please mail me or post a response to info-mac.
Not only will I be eternally grateful, I'll also send you some goodies. :-)

R.

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1991 18:13 EST
From: MacPhreak! <JPONS@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Recycle ICL8s

Hello!

I am looking for an ICL8s of the recycle symbol so that I can replace my trash
icon with is! I know how to do it but I don't have the artistic ability draw
it. If anyone out there is good at doing such things I'd appreciate it if you
could upload it the the archives or send it to me!

Thanks

Juan A. Pons	INTERNET JPons@Jack.ClarkU.Edu		BITNET JPons@ClarkU

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 08:55 EST
From: NEUBURG@campus.swarthmore.edu
Subject: ResEdit 2.1 "change resource id" bug: a solution?

Graeme Forbes writes, concerning ResEdit 2.1:
>But at
>one point you have to open the resource editor for the new mctb that
>you want to be the default and change its ID number. Every time I try
>this on my LC, the screen freezes (cursor and SuperClock continue to
>function, but clicking in ResEdit windows has no effect - the text
>cursor disappears in the ID number box). I have tried various options:
>Multifinder on/off, all inits removed, etc. etc. The LC is running 6.0.7...
>On the LC, the same freeze occurs if other resource
>numbers are changed e.g. if you try to colorize an alert and then change
>the ID number of the actb. Does anyone have any ideas what's going on?

Absolutely right; I've had the same problem myself, also on
an LC. This is apparently a bug in ResEdit 2.1. However, I
believe that there is a workaround. What you are doing is
selecting the mctb (or whatever) in the mctb picker, then
going to the menu and selecting Get Resource Info..., and
trying to change the resource ID number, whereupon every-
thing freezes. But try this: select the mctb (or whatever)
in its picker, and *double-click* on it, thus *opening* it.
*NOW* select Get Resource Info, and I believe you will find
that you can change the number without difficulty.

I suspect that the bug is that the menu item Get Resource
Info should have been dimmed/disabled unless the item
to altered is actually *open*, not merely selected.

Let me know if this solves the problem.

Matt Neuburg = neuburg@campus.swarthmore.edu

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 09:09 CST
From: "Daniel J. Power, Management Dept. Head" <POWER@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Subject: Sargon IV

To Fellow Netters --
I have a program called Sargon IV that
ran on my Mac IIcx that will not run on
my new Mac IIci.  I lose regularly to
Sargon, but I enjoy trying to win.  Any
suggestions.  I've called the company and
they thought it was the way the IIci handles
color.  I haven't heard back from them
on a fix.
Please reply directly to me and I'll summarize
for the net  -- power@uni.edu
thanks,
Daniel Power

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 91 13:57 EST
From: "Robert Weber, Graduate School, Yale 203-432-2744" <WEBER@venus.ycc.yale.edu>
Subject: Subroutines from MacForth

 I would appreciate any information or pointers on calling subroutines
compiled for other languages from MacForth.  Specifically, we need to
access the SCSIio function that accompanies the MacAdios from GW instruments.

Bob Weber.  

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 05:54 CDT
From: Kyle Griffin -- DMLVR <KG0041A@acad.drake.edu>
Subject: System 6.0.7

About system bugs...

I too own a Mac IIcx and have been running System 6.0.7, and as
well have sometimes, though rarely, gotten the "Coprocessor not
installed" message, even when the program I'm running doesn't
seem to need a coprocessor in the first place (is not math-
intensive).  And I've also gotten the "Bus error" message
quite a few times.  I know it's nothing wrong with my Mac
because I switched back to my old system and everything works
fine now.  Don't worry, and just wait for System 7.0.  Cross
your fingers and hope it'll be bug-free.  (Yeah, right!)  :-)


--Kyle Griffin
--Kg0041a@Drake

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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 91 08:48:20 CST
From: Rob Schoenborn <S099030@umrvma.umr.edu>
Subject: The MacClassic Keyboard!!

I have been using my Macintosh since 1988, but I have always been convinced
that I needed a Extended Keyboard to get the most benefit from my Mac.  I
originally purchased the Extended Keyboard for both my SE at home and my
IIci at work.  Now, after using the new Classic Keyboard, I have to admit
that Apple has outdone themselves.

This little charm is smaller by far than any Mac Keyboard ever made, but it
provides a full size ASCII keyboard as far as I can tell.  Other than the
fact that is "Mushy", it offers many of the needed features of the Extended
like:  ESC, Control, AND A FULL SIZE CAPS LOCK!!!!  I was never using those
page commands and F1-F15 keys very much anyway.

My computer at home is next to my drafting table, and I often place the
keyboard on the drafting table to type.  The Extended Keyboard takes up to
much room and requires organization of the table top (which is sometimes
inconvenient).  The Classic Keyboard weighs very little so it will sit on
my drafting table at the inclined angle, and it is so small it uses very
little space.  So if space is a problem, you might want to check out this
new addition to the Apple line.  It was about time they got it right!

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Date: 2 Mar 91 13:05 +0200
From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es>
Subject: THINK C questions

>>
THINK C hasn't direct control of compiling from the code source. Then you
haven't any evident option to make an application for all-machines that uses
the 68881 coprocesor if it has installed. But I discovered a trick: you can
create independent projects with & without 68881 option, and then mixed up
into a general project. In the some part you must decide what routine you can
& cannot call.

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I wonder me if anybody has Resedit templates for the THINK C or Pascal own
resources. I'm interested particularly on
DATA,ZERO,CREL,DREL,STRS,CNFG,DBUG,HASH,INDX,KIND,SYMS,WLOC,XSYM,ZONE,TRAP,etc.
That's only curiosity. Any information of these resources will be welcome.

-- JM CORTES<EPARI@etsii.unizar.es> // Univ.Zaragoza SPAIN/EUROPE

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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 19:32:44 PST
From: Les_Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
Subject: Transfer of PFS files from Apple II to Mac

I've transferred just about every kind of Apple II file to the Mac
and PC using pretty much every conceivable method.  Usually there is
some slick way to do things so that formatting is retained. 
Products like the Works to Works translator and CrossWorks are very
handy. 
 
However, for PFS files, the best solution I have come up with is to
hook up the serial port of a IIgs (or use a serial card in a IIe) to
a Mac (or IBM PC) with a null modem cable and print the file.  (This
trick can also be used to capture monitor listings to a file).  Of
course, you must have a comm program going on the other machine to
capture the data. 
 
Since the file you get with this approach will have hard returns
after every line, you'll want to use some sort of intelligent CR
stripper.  I usually use TextCon on a PC because I have not yet
found anything as good on a Mac (yet).
 
Hope this helps. 

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Date: 3 Mar 91 22:17:00 EDT
From: "Charles E. Bouldin" <bouldin@sed.eeel.nist.gov>
Subject: Two MPW Questions

Coming from a VAX/VMS environment, here are two MPW questions:
1. Is there a way to make the "match anything" character a * instead of the
MPW "approximately equal" symbol?

2. The VAX has the syntax [...]*.* to mean all files at or below a given point
in the directory tree. Is there something similar in MPW.

Finally, does anyone know of an MPW mailing list/interest group?

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