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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 5 Mar 91 Volume 9 : Issue 56 Today's Topics: [*] Bootman.hqx [*] font-to-nfnt-10b3.hqx [*] MacAPL [*] skim-digest.c A question about FullWrite Professional 1.1. Communications Front-End De-Binarying(?) BinHex files & assorted comments Disk Catalog Software? Download from Mac to IBM capatiable Computers HD PROBLEM- HELP NEEDED IIfx Sound Info-Mac Digest V9 #55; random color desktops Inquiry about Relational Objex Kermit archive problems Lists etc. Mac/IBM hardware MacBinary Math Libraries in C Morse Code Simulator??? NCSA Telnet NCSA Telnet with FTP Client (BYU Version) On or Off? (from digest 9-54) Organizational Solution - Icon views ResEdit 2.1 Bug on the Mac LC RODIME DRIVER NEW VERSION ScreenSavers and Network Function? Search for PlantKingdom stack System 6.0.7 System 7.0 Query tape backup summary soon The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 1991 19:06 CST From: SAWATZKYJ@sask.usask.ca Subject: [*] Bootman.hqx This file is a free-ware utility that allows you to modify the boot blocks on any startup volume. It lets you set the System heap size, max number of open files, and max number of items in the event queue. [Archived as /info-mac/util/bootman.hqx; 34K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 05:23:53 -0600 From: "Erik A. Johnson" <johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: [*] font-to-nfnt-10b3.hqx FONT->NFNT 1.0b3 (2/17/91) ( (c)1991 Erik A. Johnson) FONT->NFNT is a Freeware utility designed to convert FONT resources in a file to NFNT resources with the identical resource ID and name, deleting the original FONT resources. It can also do the more general conversion from any one type of resource to another type. Included in this archive is: 1. This "FONT->NFNT Readme" document you are reading. 2. FONT->NFNT application. 3. A "FONT->NFNT f" folder containing the source code (THINK C project and source code, and the code resource file). 4. A text document describing some of the in's and out's of FONDs, FONTs, and NFNTs. This utility has only been thoroughly tested on an SE/30 running System Software 6.0.5, though it SHOULD run on any Mac from Mac+ and up. If you find it doesn't work on your system, drop me a note and let me know what happens -- if I can, I will try to fix it. I give no guarantees, explicit or implied, on the function of this utility, and take no liability for any damage to hardware or software. I would appreciate any comments, positive or negative, on this utility, especially on this Beta version from anyone with system configurations different from mine. NOTE: FONT->NFNT 1.0b3 has only one change since 1.0b2 -- 1.0b2 was compiled (on my SE/30) assumming the existence of a 68020 or greater CPU and of an FPU, and thus will not run on a Plus, SE, Classic, etc. with 68000 CPUs. 1.0b3 has corrected this. Sorry for any inconvenience. Best of luck. Erik A. Johnson AmericaOnline: ErikAJ [Archived as /info-mac/util/font-to-nfnt-10b3.hqx; 85K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 13:31:39 EST From: Chris Jones <UOG00162@vm.uoguelph.ca> Subject: [*] MacAPL I retrieved this file from 128.146.8.61, a site in Ohio. I haven't seen any APL interpreters here on sumex, and believe it's absence to be shocking. (It's a great language, really!!) Also included in this archive, because it was in the original archive, is a desktop customizer. (ie, it customizes the LAYO resource in the finder file.) it does so graphically, on a model window, so you can see how your changes look as you do them. Very nifty. The APL program has a nice editor builtin, so no fooling with line-by-line editing (messy!) is nescessary. Haven't yet seen whether color (as in ibm versions of apl) is supported. I do know that you get a crack at the toolbox (by a function which lets you call machine language routines) so I suppose anything is possible by that route. Any troubles with the archive, let me know. C. Jones | UOG00162@vm.uoguelph.ca | 14 Strathmere Place, Guelph, ON. N1H 5L8 | P.S. if anyone knows of a version of APL for the mac that *compiles* rather than interprets, please let me know. (and especially if it's shareware) [Archived as /info-mac/lang/mac-apl.hqx; 242K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 03:00:17 CST From: 231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu (Mike Gleason) Subject: [*] skim-digest.c /* skim-digest.c * version 1.0, 28 Feb 91, by Mike Gleason, NCEMRSoft. * * Purpose: To read only selected articles from the Info-Mac digests. * * How to use: Compile this C source code with your favorite C compiler * on your favorite unix host: * * % cc skim-digest.c -O -o skim * * Go out and download a digest from sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Run skim: * * % skim digest50 digest51 digest49 * * It should be fairly straightforward from there. When skim finds an * article in the digest, it will ask you if you want to read it. Type * <n> <return> to skip the article, or just hit <return> to go ahead * and read it. Skim's key commands are similar to the "less" and * "more" text readers; the biggest difference is that Skim only * recognizes a few keys (in other words, fancy-shmancy stuff like * grepping through the digest is not supported [yet]). Once you choose * to read an article, it will pause every screenfull of lines. Hit * <n> <return> to go to the next article, <q> <return> to quit reading * the current digest, or just hit <return> to continue reading. * * Lastly: I'm curious if anyone else out there besides me will use this; * If you do, drop me a line at 231b3679@fergvax.unl.edu. I'm putting * this out into the public domain, so go ahead and submit any revisions * to sumex. */ [Archived as /info-mac/unix/skim-digest.txt; 5K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 20:51:37 -0600 From: Douglas Renze <drenze@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu> Subject: A question about FullWrite Professional 1.1. I have a question regarding FullWrite Professional 1.1 for the Macintosh. I created a file that is 46K in length and consists of 10 short chapters. When I originally created it, I was able to work with it at this length, but a few days ago when I tried to open it again, I got an "application out of memory" error, and FullWrite quit. At first I thought that the footer of the file was corrupted, so I recovered the file from my hard disk, and found that when I tried to open the 32K of un- formatted text that I was able to recover, the same thing happened again! So I tried to open the text file with another word processor (MS Word 4.0) and found that it opened it, no trouble. So my question is: what gives? Will FullWrite do this all the time? If so, I could be very disappointed. I'm a writer, and so I'll frequently be creating files even longer than this, and if this always happens, I'll be very disappointed--this was the first-ever doc I'd created with FullWrite, and this had to happen! For the record, I'm using an Apple Macintosh SE with 2.5 M of memory, system 6.0.6, the matching Finder, and have a 20 M hard drive. I have rebuilt the desktop, recovered the file, and done 20 or 30 other things that usually allow me to recover "dead" files. I'm running FullWrite under Multifinder with a 1,512K partition (I thought that perhaps the 1134K partition was the problem). I've tried it under unifinder, where I've been able to give it all of the 1,992K that I have free for finder, and it still does this. Please respond directly to me, if you will; I don't have the time to read all that comes through. If there's a good fix, I'll post. -doug internet: drenze@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu CompuServe: 70511,552 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 09:56:57 PST From: ISCJCW@uccvma.ucop.edu Subject: Communications Front-End >From: Jerry Wilcox ISCJCW@UCCVMA (415)987-0516 Subject: Communications Front-End Carl Steinhilber writes >I'm trying to build a simplistic front-end for communication with a >particular BBS ... Carl, I'm not an expert on telecommunications, by any means, but I've looked at enough of it to know that you probably DON'T want to embark on this project in HyperCard, SuperCard, or even BASIC. I would doubt that either of the first two are fast enought to handle serial port input at any decent baud rate - can't say for sure with BASIC, maybe a compiled version. Writing either an XMODEM or YMODEM protocol isn't something you're going to knock out in a weekend either, although maybe the System 7.0 Communications Toolbox will help here - I haven't looked into it very much. I think the bottom line is you'll be better off with an existing Telecommunications package. One that allows scripting, for example White Knight or MicroPhone, should permit you to set up a simplistic front-end without making that simplistic front-end your life's work. Disclaimer: These are my own personal opinions, not my employer's. + Jerry Wilcox -- ISCJCW@UCCVMA.ucop.edu -- phone: (415)987-0516 + ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 8:33:56 EST From: JMUELLER@usc.pppl.gov (JIM MUELLER, MACSHAMAN) Subject: De-Binarying(?) BinHex files & assorted comments Hello again, Digesters. Today I pose a question that, while brainwracking to me, probably has a trivial solution. I have downloaded a few BinHexed files recently where for some reason (probably me neglecting to unset Binary FTP) they arrived as a single string with no returns. Both StuffitClassic and BinHex4 gave an error and refused to un-BinHex them. Yes, I know, I could just FTP them again as ASCII, but what if the files had been removed in the meantime? You see, it's the principal of the thing. Now, how can I restore the returns to these run-on files? I tried search & replace in McSink, but there's nothing to look for. Can I use McSink or MacWrite II, Word 4, WriteNow 2, WordPerfect 1.05 (yes, some suckers actually HAVE TO use this dog), HyperCard (I tried to write a script. HaHaHa.),Excel, ResEdit 2.1, or anything in the Archives to do this and if so, how? Nextly. A month or so ago, some kind soul posted the new UltraPaint modules, which I downloaded. I can now no longer find the one to select which modules to load, assuming it was in the package. I can no longer locate the modules in the Archive either. Am I blind, or just deaf & dumb? Help? The archive @ um-mts.cc.umich.edu has LOTS of PostScript fonts, many of which are Type 1. There does not appear to be much activity in the InfoMac font section, so I don't know whether to leave sleeping fonts lie, or to move some of the more intresting faces to InfoMac. Opinions are welcome, especially >From the hard-worked moderators who will have to sift through the stuff I send anyway. Lastly, I would like to thank all those fine programmers who have given us all those fine useful INITs and CDEVs without which my 2,436K System would not be possible, and certainly not as enjoyable. Jim Mueller . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 22:26 EST From: Rhoadent King <G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu> Subject: Disk Catalog Software? Hello there... I am presently trying to organize all the files that I have on all my floppy disks and hard disk. What I need to know, is which Disk Cataloging software to use...I have heard that there are plenty of them out on the market, but has anyone had good experiences with one in particular? If so, could you please suggest it to me? Thanks, Gordon Werner G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu / G_WERNER@cc.brynmawr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 11:59:48 PST From: Mona_Robinson.McLean__CSD@xerox.com, Xerox.McLean_CSD@xerox.com Subject: Download from Mac to IBM capatiable Computers Need a few questions answered before purchasing Mac Classic. I plan to purchase a Software Package which has been written and programmed on a Macintosh Computer. My problem is I have an IBM capatiable system. Is there any way for me to convert the program so that it can be used on my system? Can I download this program from The MAC to a Xerox or IBM Computer ? If so, how do I do this and what do I need ?Thanks Mona ------------------------------ Date: 05 MAR 91 08:30:11 CDT From: Ron Rushing <RRUSHING%SFAUSTIN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: HD PROBLEM- HELP NEEDED Greetings From Nacogdoches-- Here's the problem--when an external HD is connected, the MAC wont boot. When the external HD is disconnected, it boots fine from the internal HD or the floppy. When booting from the floppy, both the internal and external HD show and work fine. Mac SE with internal APple HD40; various other external HD. We've tried zapping the PRAM, and reinstalling the System (twice). Anyone have a suggestion ??? Please respond directly to RRUSHING@SFAUSTIN I'll pass the solutions along to the list. THANKS-- RON RUSHING <rrushing@sfaustin.bitnet> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 10:56:00 PST From: smith@whistler.sfu.ca (Richard Smith) Subject: IIfx Sound I find the sound on my fx is bad too, but not always. I suspect some combo of inits but haven't bothered to check too hard. ...r ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 91 04:20:33 EST From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #55; random color desktops In V9 #55, G_WERNER@acc.haverford.edu writes: >I do have an INIT called DESKPICT which will place a picture (in full 256 >colors) on the desktop, but this program will / can only show one picture >instead of the random ones that the B&W DA did on my old Mac SE. I use Deskpict in combination with the init Randomizer. Randomizer will allow you to configure it so that it copies a random file from a specific folder and renames it to the name you specify, and puts it in the folder you specify. So, I have a folder called "Screens", and Randomizer randomly picks one of the 25 or so 8-bit desktop-sized images in there and copies it to the file "deskpicture" in my System folder. Ta-da! A quick look didn't reveal Randomizer in the archives. If it's really not there, I'll be glad to email it and/or send it to sumex. --Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1991 13:16-0500 From: Mark Nahabedian <naha@yukon.scrc.symbolics.com> Subject: Inquiry about Relational Objex Does anyone out there have any experience with the drawing program Relational Objex from SoftStream? Is it suitable for drawing trees, graphs and logical maps? Is there a way for it to import data about a set of objects and how they are connected? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:08:09 EST From: hoepfner@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patrick Hoepfner) Subject: Kermit archive problems sumex-aim.stanford.edu Info-mac/Unix Moderator: I just uuedecoded, uncompressed and untarred the "KERMIT.tar.Z.uue" file in the Info-mac/unix directory of "sumex-aim.stanford.edu". I don't know who gave you this archive or where it was gotten from, but who ever archived it did not do a very good job. The "kermit.tar.z" file did not end in an uppercase 'Z' and would not uncompress until I renamed it. (True, this is not all that much of a problem, but read on, it getts better.) Then when I untarred it, the enclosed documentation ("read.me" files) referred to the code as being in separate directories for separate platforms (MS DOS, VMS, Unix) and some that are in an incomplete state (the WAIT directory). (Why anyone in their right mind would include incomplete software for distribution I am not sure!!!!) But alas and alack, all of the directory information is lost!!! The files are not separated in directories, they are in one directory. I don't know which files belong to what platform, and if all the pieces are there. There may have been pieces of the code for different platforms that over wrote each other!!! So much for the old college try. I would like to get a copy of this and hope that this little piece of hate mail to the correct person will get a correctly archived copy on the net!!! --Patrick Hoepfner --NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center --AOL: PatrickH9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 13:31:45 EST From: "D. Bylsma" <UOG01162@vm.uoguelph.ca> Subject: Lists etc. I'm a real novice when it comes to listserves etc, but I'd like to know first how I can subscribe to other listserves, and if there is a list of them such that I could see which ones I'd like to see. Is there a list of mac-only lists? Where could I get them? Please mail me directly, thanks. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 22:26:48 -0800 From: Tim Suh <tim@ocf.berkeley.edu> Subject: Mac/IBM hardware In a recent infomac, there was some discussion about being able to use IBM SIMM's in a Mac. I was wondering what other hardware is "compatible". For instance, what's the difference between an IBM 3.5" 1.4 meg floppy and one for a Mac? I've seen sony HD drives for an IBM for $69. What needs to be done to make this just plug into a mac? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 91 14:40:40 EST From: mperry@sydvm1.vnet.ibm.com Subject: MacBinary Thanks to all who replied to my query about MacBinary. I have obtained a copy now and it works fine. I didn't look in the info-mac/comm directory because I don't use my Mac for communications! I thought the program would be in the util directory with StuffIT, MacCompress, etc. It pays to look around though, eh?! One problem : the MacBinary translator for StuffIT Classic doesn't work- the person who up-loaded the files told me that Aladdin is working on a fix - has this been released? Does this feature work in your copy Murph? (My mail to Murph bounced with an "unrecognised user" message) Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 14:35:56 -0500 From: emery@me.msu.edu Subject: Math Libraries in C I am looking for math libraries written in ANSI C (I would like to get the source code). My main need is some type of linear equation solver. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 18:44:22 PST From: Scott_McLagan@cc.sfu.ca Subject: Morse Code Simulator??? **Morse Code Simulator?** One of my students is doing a Thomas Edison project and would like to do a Morse Code demo. I seem to remember reading about a simple Morse Code simulator/generator. Have you heard of it? Thanks, Scott McLagan NBSN@mtsg.sfu.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 91 7:55:39 MST From: Mike Peralta <mperalta@huachuca-emh8.army.mil> Subject: NCSA Telnet I would just like to give thanks to all those who replied to my request for information regarding a version of NCSA Telnet implementing both an FTP client and server. I was informed that BYU has developed extensions for NCSA Telnet that do just this. It is available via anonymous ftp from zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu (128.174.20.50). The pathname is NCSA_Telnet/contributions/BYU_TELNET. Please note that this software is not supported. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 10:23:19 PLT From: Joshua Yeidel <YEIDEL@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu> Subject: NCSA Telnet with FTP Client (BYU Version) This is available via ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. I forget the directory, but it's called something like "contributed" or "unsupported" because NCSA doesn't support the BYU hack for FTP client. -- Joshua Yeidel ------------------------------ Date: Mon Mar 4 12:29:20 EST 1991 From: ehorvath@attmail.com Subject: On or Off? (from digest 9-54) FRICCI%ITOPOLI.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu writes: > I just read in MacWorld that "[...] generating electricity to keep 20% of > all computers in the USA on for a year would result in emissions of over 9.5 > million tons of carbon dioxide: that's equivalent to driving 36 million > miles at 28 miles per gallon." Let's see if I believe this. The last time I saw statistics, there were around 50 Million PCs in this country, so this statistic suggests that keeping one PC on for a year generates about 0.95 tons of CO2, the equivalent of driving 3.6 miles. If I believe the 3.6 mile figure, I have to yawn: one PC-year equates to one round-trip to the 7-11. If I believe that driving 3.6 miles generates 0.95 tons of CO2, that means the 28 miles I get from each gallon generates about 7.4 tons of CO2. The carbon portion of that CO2 tonnage is roughly 12/44, or about 2 tons. So: where did the gallon of gas manage to hide 2 tons of carbon? Something wrong here... Pulling out my handy envelope, to work on the back of, I see that my Mac II plus 13" monitor consume a max of 390 watts, about half a horsepower. That cruising car uses maybe 100 times that, say 50hp, at 50mph. So running the MacII for a year is like running the car for maybe 88 hours (3.65 days), or 4400 miles. That's within shouting distance of the 3600 miles the original posting would have reported if the figure were 36 BILLION, not million, miles. NOW I believe I should turn off the Mac when it's not in use...as well as minimize trips to the 7-11... =Ned Horvath= ehorvath@attmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 22:46:06 EST From: "D. Bylsma" <UOG01162@vm.uoguelph.ca> Subject: Organizational Solution - Icon views To organize your files in either small or large icon views in either alphabetic order or size order or by kind or whatever, these instructions should help: In the finder, open the window you want to be organized. View it by whatever order you want it, i.e. size, alphabetical, date, colour, whatever. Once it is all set up, do Cmd-A to select all of them and drag them all to the desktop, being careful not to drag them to any other disks that may be on it. After a while, all your zillion file icons will be displayed vertically up and down your screen with slight overlap. Now comes the fun part. Select the now-empty window, and choose the view you would like, be it by small icon (my favourite) or icon. Select all those icons you put on the desktop using the click-drag-lasoo box approach and ensure that they are all highlighted. Go to the file menu and select 'Put Away' and your files will be placed in your folder in whatever order you selected, from left to right, top to bottom There! You're done! Now wasn't that easy? D. Bylsma ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 91 09:21:39 SET From: Alexander Falk <K360950%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: ResEdit 2.1 Bug on the Mac LC There have recently been a couple of problems reported with ResEdit 2.1 and the Macintosh LC. This is indeed a bug in ResEdit that only seems to manifest itself when running on the Macintosh LC. The problem is that the "Get Resource Info" command runs into the void when it tries to change the resource ID of a resource that is not loaded. The perfect workaround is - as it has already been pointed out - to first double-click the resource in order to load it and open it and then to use the "Get Resource Info" command to change the resource ID. The ResEdit engineering team at Apple is aware of this bug and it will be fixed in the next version. Best regards, A L exander F alk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 91 10:39:42 SST From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: RODIME DRIVER NEW VERSION I read that Rodime has released a new driver for its drives a month or two ago. I have a couple of Rodime Harddisks, but the local distributor has gone bust. Please, can someone send me the new driver? I think this is perfectly legal as the driver can't be used on any other drive except Rodime's. Thanks. Help much appreciated. Please send to isstth@nusvm.bitnet. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1991 11:54 PST From: Tigger <GREG@pomona.claremont.edu> Subject: ScreenSavers and Network Function? I have noticed network problems with at least two versions of Pyro, 4.x and whatever was before that. For examply, loading a Cayman Gatorbox took several minutes, over ten if Pyro was actually 'saving' the sceen, and less than a minute if the cursor was placed in the 'disable' corner. I don't know if the root of this behavior was 'missed network interrupts', but Pyro collided with the network in this case. I have not noticed similar behaviour with After Dark, but then I have not made any attempt to actually test it. Greg Orman greg@pomona.claremont.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 91 11:58:48 +0100 From: Guy LOUIS <LOUIS%BUCLLN11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Search for PlantKingdom stack Hello, I remember seeing a few years ago a HyperCard stack, talking about plants. The name of the archive was PLANTKINGDOM.SIT. Does anybody have it? Or another similar stack? Could you please post it to the archives or send me a binhexed copy? Thanks Guy LOUIS ( LOUIS @ BUCLLN11.BITNET louis @ slig.ucl.ac.be ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 16:37:31 EST From: Mike Flynn <FLYNNM%DUVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: System 6.0.7 in another attempt, to see what I don't know about the mac. Could anyone tell me why gatekeeper is giving me a message about the application trying to change a resource in the system file. the resourse is DRVR, 2 that is the DRVR for printers. and oddly enough the only time I get this message is when I run monofinder, and an application that has the ability to print. Games run fine, but word and other real application can cause the system to crash if I try to use the chooser, page setup, or print commands. I have an SE/30, system 6.0.7, the gatekeeper init, sum partition, suitcase, facade, goo panel init, and heap fixer in the system folder. and none of these problem seem to exist when I run multifinder. - Flynnm@dumv.ocs.drexel.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 7:16:53 CST From: DAVE@gerga.tamu.edu (Dave Martin) Subject: System 7.0 Query Howdy. Just read in MacWEEK that Apple has scheduled a May 13 release date for System 7.0 - barring major bugs in the 'final' beta sent to developers. The article also mentioned that Apple will have two upgrade kits - the 'individual' upgrade, for users with only one Mac, and the 'multiple' upgrade for networks. The upgrades will be available from dealers on May 13 (if...), but Apple will NOT be uploading the new System to online services as it has in the past. The price for upgrading to the 'individual' upgrade kit will be somewhere between $50-$100, while there is no price set yet on the 'multiple' upgrade kit, which will only be available on CD-ROM. Now, the upgrade will contain a HyperCard 2.0 stack which, among other things, will check your hard drive(s) for any INITs, cdevs, APPLs, etc., known to not be System 7.0-compatable. You also receive ninety days of free, unlimited phone support. Not bad. My question, then, is this: Does anyone know the full scoop on the two upgrade kits. Will everyone who doesn't get System 7.0 with a new Mac have to BUY the upgrade (ala MicroSoft)? What are the differences between the two kits, other than the distribution media - if you have a network of Macs, must you buy a CD-ROM drive to upgrade, or will Apple require you to purchase one upgrade per Mac - or does the 'individual' upgrade not install some of the networking features? Will the new system be on AppleLink, or via FTP from APPLE.COM, if not on America Online/Compu$erve/etc.? (OK, I said question, not questionS, but hey, it all boils down to "What is Apple doing with System 7.0"? Since I'm sure many here on the net would be interested in the info, if it is official information, please post it to INFO-MAC. If it is rumour, heresay, or gossip, you can send it to me if you must. If there is anything good, maybe I'll post a summary. But please, just the facts. We've all (OK, not all. There are some out on the net who have Beta 7.0) been waiting so long for System 7.0 to solidify from vapor that it would be nice to get some real info. Thanks. Dave Martin - TAMU/GERG - DAVE@GERGA.TAMU.EDU ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 09:41:00 EST From: "MICHAEL R. ROMAN" <mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu> Subject: tape backup summary soon I will post a summary of the responses about Mac network tape backup by next Monday (3/11). Anyone who wants to have their response included has until then. Mike Roman mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 91 11:16:25 EST From: Sunil Hazari <CUHAZARI%ECUVM1.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Does anyone have acess to a freeware utility called LaserWriter Lockout which can be used to control access to laser printers on Appletalk networks. Thanks, Sunil Hazari cuhazari@ecuvm1.bitnet.edu ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************