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Info-Mac Digest Fri, 8 Mar 91 Volume 9 : Issue 59 Today's Topics: [*] Compression summary [*] How to build PhoneNet connectors [*] Nisus bug registry [*] PropFactory HC Stack, creates curriculum proposals. [*] Turing 1.0 Announcing Dutch Speech Program For Mac Apple Portrait Display tuning Asynchronous callback routine in MPW C 3.1? Big Files, Low quota Fonts in a Word document Games? Hard Disk Protection Software HD PROBLEM- HELP NEEDED How to build your own Macintosh by Brant Associates LaserJet drivers Mac Becomes Secure Workstation New Listserv List for Discussion of QuickMail OZTEX OzTeX network availability PICT to Postscript Screen depth (summary) Un-(Stuff/compact/doubling/compressing) User of SUM II, help! Webster MultiPort Gateway Info The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 11:27:32 EST From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: [*] Compression summary C. Jones asked about file compression/decompression. Please find enclosed a text file covering compression/decompression software for a number of different operating systems. [Archived as /info-mac/report/file-compression.txt; 13K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 16:38:24 CST From: squishy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Shishin Yamada) Subject: [*] How to build PhoneNet connectors The following is a text file describing how to build cheap PhoneNet connectors for connecting Macs to other Macs or Mac peripherals. I found this in November, and built two connectors over Winter Break at Northwestern Unviersity for about $12. They work flawlessly to the best of my knowledge. [Archived as /info-mac/report/phone-net-connectors.txt; 12K] ------------------------------ Date: 5 Mar 91 11:43 -0800 From: Rick Sutcliffe <faith!Rick_Sutcliffe@cs.sfu.ca> Subject: [*] Nisus bug registry Nisus bug registry Some weeks ago, I posted a message on Compuserve offering to maintain a NISUS bugs registry. I offered a couple of my own, and asked for contributions. As traffic has now died down, it is time to post the results. Here's how it will work: 1. The NISUS bug registy will accept bug reports only on the current version (now 3.05) 2. Bugs must be documented with an example. 3. Mail the information to me on Compuserve 76475,3406, or to rick_sutcliffe@twu.ca 4. I will create a summary file and post it here and to the internet archives. The file will be updated periodically as I get additional reports. 5. I will forward a copy of each new version to Paragon. [Archived as /info-mac/report/nisus-bugs.txt; 6K] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Mar 91 17:29 From: <IOCONNOR%SUNRISE.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: [*] PropFactory HC Stack, creates curriculum proposals. Enclosed please find Prop-Factory, a HyperCard stack written by Tony Anello for educators writing curriculum proposals. Tony is a high school teacher in Liverpool, NY, and he asked me to put this on the 'net, as he has no access. It is free so far as I know. Please e-mail me with bug reports/commentsuggestions. Keep on Mac'in! Kieran O'Connor IOCONNOR@SUNRISE (bitnet) [Archived as /info-mac/card/prop-factory.hqx; 65K] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 09:00:48 EST From: laf@mbunix.mitre.org (Fyock) Subject: [*] Turing 1.0 Turing 1.0 is a Turing machine simulator, intended to be used by college-level computer science students. The program's model consists of a two-way finite tape and a finite state table. The user may set breakpoints, single-step through states, and modify the tape and state table. Turing 1.0 is shareware, $20. Substantial discounts and site licenses are available to educational institutions. Please email any bug reports and/or enhancement suggestions to Lee Fyock laf@mitre.org [Archived as /info-mac/app/turing.hqx; 57K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 00:19:57 +0100 From: reinoud@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (R. Lamberts) Subject: Announcing Dutch Speech Program For Mac Dear all, A Dutch speech program for the Macintosh, called 'Babbel' (Dutch for 'chatter'), is available now. This program is an attempt to make the Mac speak Dutch from text, the text either being entered interactively or read from a text file. The user interface is implemented as a standard Mac editor, with a few extensions for this specific purpose. Babbel is free for noncommercial use. Babbel is intended for educational purposes. Babbel was developed for use by a physically disabled and mute person, so the user interface was deliberately kept simple: with the use of a macro program (like MacroMaker) the program can easily be configured for operation with the use of only one finger. By default, a large font is chosen for the editor, and keystrokes give audible feedback by vocalizing the letter that is being typed. The quality of speech from Babbel is limited by the MacinTalk speech generator used. MacinTalk features only American phonemes, and the mapping of Dutch phonemes on American phonemes is necessarily a bit crude. Also, the conversion of text to phonemes is imperfect. Nevertheless, the Dutch speech is quite intelligible, comparable to the usual MacinTalk performance on English. The reason that I wrote Babbel is that Dutch speech systems are *very* hard to find, and that the existing (limited) systems are outrageously expensive. Babbel requires only the smallest Mac configuration, without additional hardware or software costs. So, Babbel may be an interesting alternative to people who can't afford the other systems available. One young mute person, with very little physical ability for expression, is already using Babbel intensively and quickly developing more language ability than seemed possible before. I'm not posting Babbel on the net or to any archives right now, because I don't expect much interest in it. If you want a copy, please contact me, and I will be glad to mail it to you. - Reinoud email: reinoud@duteca.et.tudelft.nl Reinoud Lamberts Grabijnhof 27 2625 LM Delft The Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 10:15 MET From: TAALFILOSOFIE - 080-512949 <HSCHOTEL%KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: Apple Portrait Display tuning 5 months ago I purchased an SI with an $1100 Apple Portrait Display. The lit area of my SCREEN is NOT RECTANGULAR. I am really disappointed with the service people at Apple. Not only have several of their attemps to tune the monitor, left me with a screen that still tapers at the top, they seem unwilling to provide me with a new monitor. I would like to hear from anyone who has a similar monitor problem, or anyone who has a solution. Thank you. - Henk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 91 19:50:36 PST From: "William J. Lipa" <lipa@neon.stanford.edu> Subject: Asynchronous callback routine in MPW C 3.1? I am having a lot of trouble porting a Sound Manager package to MPW C 3.1. The routines work correctly under Think C 4.0.2 and gcc 1.37, as far as I know. Has anyone got a callback routine to work with this compiler? All I need to do is put the channel pointer into a global array of pointers that will get disposed of the next time through the event loop. My callback routine follows, in the hope that I'm making some obvious blunder. pascal void soundCompletion(channel, command) SndChannelPtr channel; SndCommand *command; { tblong myA5; int i; if (command->param1 == kSoundComplete) { myA5 = SetA5(command->param2); /* Go through the table until empty entry is found or run off the end. */ for (i = 0; i < kMaxPendingDisposes; i++) { if (!pgDisposeMe[i]) { pgDisposeMe[i] = channel; pgNeedDispose = true; break; } } if (i >= kMaxPendingDisposes) /* no empty entry */ pgInterruptError = true; myA5 = SetA5(myA5); } } The exact symptom is that very often the routine can't find an empty element in the pgDisposeMe array (which is declared volatile), sometimes even when only one sound has been played. It then sets the pgInterruptError flag to true and subsequently I catch the error. All advice appreciated! I need to use an array of channels waiting to be disposed instead of a simple flag because I can have multiple sounds running at once under the new 6.0.7 Sound Manager. But if anyone has gotten any sort of sound completion routine to work under MPW C, I would very much like to see it. Bill PS. I explicitly intialize each element of pgDisposeMe to 0 to be sure. ------------------------------ Date: 8 Mar 91 10:32 +0200 From: JM CORTES <EPARI@etsii.unizar.es> Subject: Big Files, Low quota If you have low quota you can load files from sumex with BITFTP at PUCC. (BITFTP@PUCC.bitnet) This service segments any files it load into messages of 50kb. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 91 16:41:17 SET From: Alexander Falk <K360950%AEARN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Fonts in a Word document The problem is that Microsoft Word does apperently not open the resource fork of its documents and thus the FONT resource cannot be found by the system, because the file is not in the resource chain. I'm afraid that there is no solution to this problem, except using SuitCase II and opening the FONT/DA Mover file temporarily on the machine you are working on. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 91 11:56:52 SST From: TNG TaiHou <ISSTTH%NUSVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Games? Has anyone come across these games for the Mac ? 1. Xerion 2. Dragon's Lair 3. SpaceAce 4. new versions of SpaceQuest and King's Quest 5. Thexder 6. Windwalker (or any other new games from Origins) I am calling from Singapore and would like to know what mailorder house carries these games. I have seen the catalogs of MacWareHouse, MacZone, MacAvenue, MacConnection, MacProducts, Mac's Place... listed in MacWorld, but none of these carries the above games. I have heard of EggHead but don't have their fax number. Can some kind soul please post the fax number to me? Please reply to isstth@nusvm. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:20 EST From: VAX Academic Support <COLMENARES%FORDMURH.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> Subject: Hard Disk Protection Software Hi! I've been asked to evaluate disk protection software. In particular the software should: a - allow users to launch applications (preferably without the use of a "dummy" document created by the application). b - prevent anyone from storing information on the hard disk. c - prevent anyone from copying, erasing and modifying software applications. d - prevent modifications to the system folder. (I realize some applications modify the system folder, but I'd like a package that will not allow anyone to store his/her own inits, etc. into the folder.) e - prevent modifications to the Control Panel (Is this tied in with the system folder (see item d above)? If so, excuse my ignorance.) f - provide a password so that casual users cannot lock/unlock the hard disk. Has anyone had experience with such software packages? Can you recommend one that contains all or most of the features above? Many thanks in advance. Josephine Colmenares Fordham University colmenares@fordmurh via BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Fri 8 Mar 91 10:28:45-PST From: Mike McNeil BBN 224-3240 <MCNEIL@tecr.nosc.mil> (619) Subject: HD PROBLEM- HELP NEEDED Try checking your SCSI addresses, depending on the type of drive they may be hardware switches or software switches. Internal HD are usually set to 0. If they are s/w switches your HD installer/ formatter should have that function, Silverlining fomr LaCie does. Make sure you have correct termination, correct termination is not necessarily the same for all systems. Your internal drive should be terminated and require no other changes. Your external drive should also be terminated (but maybe not). Like SCSI addresses termination can be internal or external. 25 pin drives (referring to the number of pins in the SCSI cable) are generally terminated internally. 50 pin drives are generally terminated externally. Having said that, be assured the exception is the rule. Try to divine that information from your manual. For external termination, it doesn't matter where you put the terminator, in-line with the cable or on the open SCSI socket. I quote from various sources "...Termination is a trial and error process...." Good Luck _____^_____ 0-0 (_)+ p.s. A terminator is a small device that has male & female SCSI connectors and doesn't look like it does anything useful. You may have gotten one with your HD and you may not have. They are generally gray in color (black for IIfx) and about 3 in x 1 in. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1991 20:08 CST From: CABRALES@vaxb.acs.unt.edu Subject: How to build your own Macintosh by Brant Associates Does anybody know if the book and other material that the company Brant Associates from Portland, OREGON is worth to buy it. If not which book do you recommend for assembling my own MAC. Thanks E. J. Cabrales ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 91 20:21:42 EST From: Dieder Bylsma <UOG01162@vm.uoguelph.ca> Subject: LaserJet drivers Does anybody have a copy of the most recent version of the LaserJet drivers ??? Do they function properly on a LaserJet linked up with Appleshare? Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 91 10:50:23 EST From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil> Subject: Mac Becomes Secure Workstation Reprinted without permission from Government Computer News, 4 Mar 91. Mac Becomes Secure Workstation BY DARRYL K. TAFT GCN Staff SecureWareInc. has attained both a B1 rating and the more secure compartmented-mode workstation certification for its CMW+ system software running on a Macintosh. The ratings were issued after a three-year evaluation by a team of representatives of the National Computer Security Center (NCSC) and Defense Intelligence Agency. The DIA dubbed the software/Macintosh combination a compartmented mode workstation because of its enhanced multilevel security features. CMW+ combines multilevel operating system security with the X Window System and the Open Software Foundation's OSF/Motif graphical user interface, all running on A/UX, Apple Computer Inc.'s version of Unix. Apple's Federal Systems Group in Reston, Va., cooperated with SecureWare, an Atlanta company, on development of CMW+. NCSC, part of the National Security Agency, certified Secureware's CMW+ at the B1 level and has placed the product on its Evaluated Products List of secure products, Cynthia Berecek, an NSA spokeswoman, said. "The CMW+ has received a B1 rating and also been certified as a CMW by DIA, but it has not yet been published on the Trusted Computing Base Extensions list," said a DIA official. The official spoke on condition of anonymity. In early 1988, the DIA awarded five contracts for development of a multilevel secure workstation with features exceeding B1 requirements. This workstation was to be known as a compartmented-mode workstation, or CMW. SecureWare's CMW+ is the first to gain certification, DIA officials said. The other contracts went to Digital Equipment Corp., Harris Corp., IBM Corp. and Sun Microsystems Inc. Initially, the DIA and Mitre Corp. of Bedford, Mass., specified the CMW for use in the DOD Intelligence Information System, said Michael C. McChesney, SecureWare's chief executive officer. While the CMW+ meets the DIA's DODIIS requirements, it also stands ready for existing and future systems calling for multilevel secure technology, McChesney said. Many of the Macintoshes going to the DOD's Worldwide Military Command and Control System (WWMCCS) likely will use CMW technology, he said. DOD required CMW compatibility for the WWMCCS Information System (WIS). HFSI Inc. (formerly Honeywell Federal Systems Inc.), McLean, Va., won that contract, supplying secure Macintoshes as WIS workstations. SecureWare developed the secure version of A/UX for WIS, McChesney said. Many other procurements call for CMW or "CMW-like functionality," McChesney said. The Air Force, looking to automate the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has begun the Joint Staff Automation for the '908 procurement, he said. That procurement, also known as AFCAC 303, specifies two kinds of workstations, one of them a CMW. The Army's Reserve Component Automation System asks for a CMW- like workstation, as do some Navy procurements, he said. "SecureWare has done an outstanding job in ensuring that A/UX can run in a secure environment. The implications of this are tremendous. Now Macintosh personal computers can be placed in critical areas of the government and used for processing classified and sensitive information," said Greg Shuk, director of Apple's Federal Systems Group. The CMW+ has been designed to maintain backward compatibility with both A/UX and the X Window protocol. Existing A/UX and X Window applications run without recompilation on the CMW+, company officials said. The CMW+ runs on a Macintosh IIx. SecureWare's next step will be to port it to the Macintosh IIfx, McChesney said, adding: "We intend to support the ability to launch Mac applications. But it's our view that in the Unix world, OSF/Motif will be the dominant standard. We'll have the CMW on the Mac, on 386s and 486s, as well as on other platforms. Because that's where the government wants to be, open to a variety of hardware platforms." SecureWare has a version of CMW+ running on the Santa Cruz Operation's Open Desktop system on 386 and 486 machines, McChesney said. That product will be released later this year. The CMW+ uses the SecureWare Trusted Application Programming Interface (TAPI) for developing trusted systems. The TAPI comprises a set of system calls and library routines for trusted applications to use to access security services. Trusted applications written for CMW+ will migrate easily to the operating systems of other vendors using the TAPI technology, McChesney said. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 91 07:57:02 EST From: Peter Furmonavicius <PETER%YALEVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: New Listserv List for Discussion of QuickMail new listserv list: QM-L at YaleVM (BitNet) QM-L at YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu (InterNet) Hello. Yale University is currently using CE Software's QuickMail mail package on a campus-wide AppleTalk network. We are attempting to connect as many students, faculty, and staff as possible in order to achieve as close to universal e-mail connectivity as we can. We are interested in talking to other QuickMail users, in order to discuss common experiences, problems, configurations, and the like. We encourage anyone interested in the CE Software QuickMail software to join us on QM-L. You may subscribe to this list in the usual way you would subscribe to any listserv list. To sign up, send a message or mail to Listserv@YaleVM (BitNet), or mail to Listserv@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu (InterNet), with the command: subscribe qm-l firstname lastname For MAIL subscriptions this command should appear as the first line of the BODY of the mail message. The subject line is ignored and can be omitted. Obviously, firstname and lastnameare replaced with your first and last name. BITnet: Peter @ YaleVM InterNet: Peter @ YaleVM.YCC.Yale.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 10:00 MET From: TAALFILOSOFIE - 080-512949 <HSCHOTEL%KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Subject: OZTEX Reply to Alain WAHA and all other "Latex aware people": >I was therefore very keen to hear about a shareware that did just the >trick. (oztex) If you really want to use Latex on a mac: Their email address is: "OzTex@midway.uchicago.edu" HSCHOTEL@KUNRC1.URC.KUN.NL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 91 09:58:23 EST From: Tom Prusa <TPRUSA@ccvm.sunysb.edu> Subject: OzTeX network availability Recently, Alain Waha wrote about OzTeX, the free version of TeX for the Macintosh. He writes > > I was therefore very keen to hear about a shareware that did just the > trick. (oztex) > > But were is it? The European copy of the archives do not seem > to hold a copy, despite holding copies of artworks etc...that have lon >been removed from the sumex-aim archives by fear of offending people, o > eaching copyright laws... > > Aybody able to shed some light on this? or bring another piece > of news on the subject? > For those who haven't heard, OzTeX is an absolutely superb implementation of TeX 3.0 for the Macintosh. The latest version is 1.3. It is available for 'ftp'ing from tank.uchicago.edu OzTeX is in many ways superior to TeXtures (the commercial version) but it is free. Do not shell out approx $400 for TeXtures until you have tried OzTeX tom prusa (tprusa@sbccvm) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 10:01:52 -0500 From: adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Brian Adamson) Subject: PICT to Postscript Lee, Canvas comes with a little application which converts it's PICT files into encapsualted Postscript files or to the clipboard as encapsulated Postscript (EPS). I've used this to successfully paste Canvas pictures into Microsoft Word when I've had seemingly mysterious difficulties in doing this with a simple cut from Canvas and paste into MS Word. The procedure I use (given to me over the phone from Deneba) is to use the utility that comes with Canvas to translate a Canvas picture into EPS into the clipboard. Then, for some unknow reason, I have to paste the clipboard into the scrapbook or SmartScrap. Finally, I can switch to Word and copy and paste from the Scrapbook into Word. Unfortunately, at this point, all you see on the screen is a grey square on the screen and you can't resize it as it is EPS. Deneba told me the reason for these problems is that Canvas uses extended QuickDraw routines not used by some other applications (most other ones it seems, and apparently not by Laserwriter printer drivers, either) The above procedure does not work well for pictures which uses Canvas' capability for XOR, OR, NOR, etc of fill patterns, bit maps, etc. Evidently, Canvas can display these things quite nicely on your screen but I don't know of anyway to print them (except when I've pasted to Pixel Paint, and fixed all the colors that get messed up in the transfer.) The reason Deneba uses the extended QuickDraw is to provided additional precision of some sort in their drawings, so they say. Good luck, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 91 10:36:40 +0200 From: Doron Eren <COEREN%WEIZMANN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Screen depth (summary) A while back I posted a question about attaching a particular screen-depth setting to an application. I would like to thank all the people who replied. Here is a summary of all the replies: Out of nine replies, four people recommended HandsOff II, a commercial INIT/CDEV which enables one to attach a certain screen depth (as well as other things, I have not tried it yet) to each application. One reply suggested making a QuickKeys (or other) macro to set screen depth and launch an application. One reply suggested Launch, a shareware application (available at the archives) which launches other applications under MultiFinder. Thomas E. DeWeese (grendel@rpi.edu) sent me a beta version of Multi-App, an application he wrote that keeps a strip (or other arrangment) of icons on the screen, each showing the application icon it points to and allows the attachment of a particular screen depth as well as a document to that application One person mentioned DepthGauge, a freeware INIT/CDEV which lets one modify screen depth from the finder or from within applications without going through the Controll Panel (By Controll-(or other modifier) clicking on the menu bar). I am currently using DepthGauge because I can usualy switch after I start an application. I have not tried HandsOff II (turnaround time on orders here in measured in MONTHS). Of all the other solutions, Multi-App comes closest to what I was looking for (but it will not help if one launches applications by double-clicking documents). Unfortunatly, being beta, it still crashes sometimes. Again, I thank all those who responded...............................Doron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1991 16:21:17 PST From: LIVESEY@merry.rad.washington.edu (John Livesey) Subject: Un-(Stuff/compact/doubling/compressing) Now that I haven't seen _new_ messages recently on the compacting debate, I'm wondering if some kind soul out there who has followed the debate on file compression utilities would let the rest of us know which decompression utilities we need to be able to benefit from all of the archived material on Info-Mac. I have Un-stuffit (classic, I think) and can obviously decompress an .sea file (for self-extracting archive). However, it is frustrating when I have wasted time and net resources getting a file which requires a decompression utility I don't have. How 'bout a list of what is currently needed and if possible pointers as to where these utilities are located. Thanks ever so much. John Livesey (livesey@merry.rad.washington.edu) Univ. of Washington / Seattle. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Mar 91 18:57:48 cst From: charles@calshp.cals.wisc.edu Subject: User of SUM II, help! I have a bunch of files with filetype XCRY and file creator SMZD. Are they encrypted by SUM's Encryption with the more advanced encryption option set (not DEC)? Please answer directly to me, a simple yes or no will do. Thank you. charles@calshp.cals.wisc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1991 10:12 ADT From: "Joy Aberback, MicroComputer Co-Ordinator" <JABERBACK@husky1.stmarys.ca> Subject: Webster MultiPort Gateway Info To all netters, I'm looking for users' comments and experiences with a gateway called the Webster Multiport. Our university computer centre is *very* interested in this piece of equipment and I'd like to hear directly from those users who have installed or seen this gateway in operation. Just for your information, the Webster Multiport is a four channel router, enabling you to connect four AppleTalk networks to an Ethernet network. Each AppleTalk port runs simultaneously and independently. The device divides the workload between a 68010 cpu and a Direct Memory Access controller. The DMA controller performs the data transfers while the cpu handles the protocol conversions and routing of packets. The Multiport can be configured to hide laserwriters on other AppleTalk networks, as well as keeping some segments of the entwork from accessing unauthorized areas (we really like these features). It also has remote dial-in access to AppleTalk networks via a UNIX host. The configuration software supposedly is easy to use for setup; their tech support has an internet address and a 1-800 number. In all, this piece of equipment sounds too good to be true!! Anybody with any experience with the Multiport, please contact me and I'll summarize all information to the net. Thanks. Joy Aberback (JABERBACK@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:35:39 MET From: Juergen Stage <stage@d243s350.sietec.de> Is there anybody who knows how to spool out PITC/PICT2 Images to a file? We need some detailed information about how to spool out a BitMap/PixMap to a file using the QD and CQD routines. The size of the BitMap/PixMap can be very large (> 1 MByte). We are using the MPW enviroment with C and C++. Please mail any information or sample sources describing how to solve it to stage@d243s350.sietec.de Thanks in advance. Juergen Stage ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 MAR 91 11:27:03 GMT From: SCOFFIN%VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu One Problem solved and another found... Re : My own question about getting an application to quit when restart or shutdown are selected in the Finder : It turns out that removing the ANSI library from my think C project and doing the tasks it was there for (just# calloc() as it happens) by the correct MacMinded ways does the trick. I have no idea why the presence of this library should affect the shutdown behaviour in this way. Perhaps hooks to the TC console are in operation even though none of the console functions are being used. In response to another question of the same nature, the Finder passes a command key (keyDown event) to your application (curly-cabbage Q) to simulate a quit. So if you give your application the command-Q equivalents and handle keyDown's properly (and remove ANSI ???) all should be fine and dandy. However I have another question... In my application I wish to select a number of files at once. To do this I am using SFPGetFile() with a custom DLOG which has a couple of extra buttons and a ListItem (like the horrid Font/DA Mover interface). Now what I want to do is if the (>>) button is pressed, get the highlighted file in the SF list and transfer it to my own list so that it appears in the right window. Unfortunately I do not appear to be able to get the ListHandle to the SF's currently displayed file list. Is this contained in a low-memory global or is there some other tricksy-dicksy method of obtaining a handle to it ???? Rob Scoffin SCOFFIN@UK.AC.OX.VAX ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************