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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 12 Mar 91 Volume 9 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: [*] Morse Code trainer! [*] orb-mazez-10b2.hqx (New Version) [*] teach-text-maker-12.hqx 1 GC, 2 Monitors? 8-24 GC and Apple service AppleTalk/PhoneNet Question Font/DA mover trouble Helpful Shareware Authors Help needed for getting MacMS How to ftp .sit files? HyperCard Picture XCMD Bug? Info-Mac Digest V9 #61 LaserWriter Access Restrictions Memory Manager Fx Mildly Misleading & Insulting Modula-2 compiler Not Really Sure... Oregon Speed-code Universe - What & Where? Personnal Word 4.0 glossary and ASCII files QUED/M 2.07->2.09 upgrade ResEdit 2.1 and Think C== System 7 partition The MacClassic Keyboard Word 4.0 crashes on Mac IIfx The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1991 22:51:15 EST From: IOCONNOR@sunrise.acs.syr.edu Subject: [*] Morse Code trainer! Since someone else asked for a Morse code trainer--I figure the archives could use it too. So here it is. A program to help you learn morse code. Great for aspiring Ham Radio folks. See the about box for author info. I did not create this, but am uploading for the 'net. Keep on Mac'in! Kieran O'Connor [Archived as /info-mac/app/morse-code.hqx; 54K] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 91 16:21:02 GMT From: smw@ozone.biom.csiro.au (Stephen Wilson) Subject: [*] orb-mazez-10b2.hqx (New Version) ORB MAZEZ version 1.0 beta 2 Copyright 1990-91 Stephen Wilson $10 Shareware Orb Mazez is a two-player game similar to Maze-Wars (you see a 3-D view) but with a divided screen so that both players can play on the same computer. Basically, you must try to find and kill your opponent on each level, collecting goodies along the way. ** ORB MAZEZ RUNS ONLY ON A MACINTOSH II ** Features include... - Full colour 3-D graphics - Digitized sound - Online help - An extensive array of objects in the mazes - Statistics at the end of each game - Customizable keys, game length and sound volume Version 1.0b2 is basically a bug-fix release. If there are no further problems, it will probably be the last version. Changes include... - The sound, which previously didn't work on most computers has been fixed. A related bug which caused crashes upon quitting has disappeared as a consequence. - The animation is far smoother and slightly quicker - Numerous bugs to do with poor keyboard control have been fixed - The online help system has been improved Bug reports, questions, etc. gladly accepted. Source code in MPW C 3.0 is also available, by sending me a disk. Details are on the game's title screen. [Archived as /info-mac/game/orb-mazez-10b2.hqx; 293K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 91 20:29:47 +0100 From: GHGAQZ0%BLEKUL11.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: [*] teach-text-maker-12.hqx Creating TeachText readme files containing Pictures in the past was something most people didn't like to do. Moreover many people didn't even know how to do it. It was a complex task, juggling resources, using ResEdit. So there weren't too many TeachText files with Pictures about. And yet, TeachText is an ideal instrument for readme documents and online-manuals of all kinds: it launches quickly, uses little memory and above all: everybody's got it. So I decided to write an application to create TeachText files as easily as it is to create a MacWrite document, using cut&paste-like commands. The result was: TeachText Maker (TTM). This is version 1.2 which includes * several bug fixes. * you can choose between automatic or manual screen refreshing. * multifinder friendly (allows time for background tasks) TeachTextMaker is $15 shareware. See archive for details. TeachTextMaker may be distributed anywhere as long as you don't make any money out of it. [Archived as /info-mac/util/teach-text-maker-12.hqx; 66K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 10:22 EST From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER@grove.iup.edu> Subject: 1 GC, 2 Monitors? I never got any replies to my original posting about a 2-monitor setup with one regular video card and one 8.24GC (accelerated) video card. I take it either nobody has seen any problems with this setup, or else nobody has ever seen this setup. If you have any experience at all with using one 8.24GC card in a multiple-monitor environment, or if you have even heard any rumors, could you please drop me an E-line :-) ? I'd hate to have this faculty member invest all that taxpayer's money in an accelerated video card and then not be able to use it because of unexpected conflicts. Thanks much. Mark Nutter [MANUTTER@IUP] Apple Support Manager, Indiana University of Pennsylvania ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1991 13:48:00 EST From: MON2IER@sunrise.acs.syr.edu (Mark Monmonier) Subject: 8-24 GC and Apple service We ordered an 8-24 GC for a Mac II last Spring. After numerous promises and postponements, it arrived this fall. It never has worked properly with MacDraw and several other applications. The most annoying symptom has been a failure to reproduce on the printer (LaserWriter II/sc) the fill patterns shown on the screen. Several service technicians have carried out tests and reported the results back to Apple, which seems to act as if the problem will go away if they do nothing and ignore me. Has anyone had success with a plain old Mac II (with 8 Mg), the 8-24 GC, and a LaserWriter II/sc, running (say) MacDraw II? Does anyone know whether Apple has an ombudsman, who will not only listen to the complaint but do something constructive to rectify it? If not, any ideas for getting some satisfaction about this rather expensive lemon would be appreciated. Mark Monmonier Geography Deparment, Syracuse Unviersity mon2ier@sunrise.acs.syr.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 20:16 EST From: ND3Y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu Subject: AppleTalk/PhoneNet Question Fellow Mac-People, I have a simple question about AppleTalk and PhoneNet networks. Is it OK to mix Farrallon and Apple connections between computers and a LaserWriter within the same local network? I have my own Farrallon PhoneNet boxes, but the lab I've moved to has the SE and LaserWriter hooked up with Apple's cables. I was wondering if I could just connect my PhoneNet connectors into the sockets of the Apple boxes. Thanks very much for your help. Jon Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 14:09:41 EST From: Jacob S Weinstein <jacobw@phoenix.princeton.edu> Subject: Font/DA mover trouble I'm having a problem with Font/DA mover. When I try to install a new font or DA into my system, I get a message saying, "Sorry- Font/DA mover cannot change this file unless you use a different startup disk." As long as I am not trying to modify the currently running system, I'm fine; in order to install fonts or DAs, I just reboot from a floppy. But I didn't use to need to do this, and it doesn't seem to be a problem on other Macs, with the exception of one belonging to a friend. She uses almost all of the same software I use, so perhaps the problem is with an init or something. Any suggestions? -Jacob Weinstein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 08:28:11 PST From: ISCJCW@uccvma.ucop.edu Subject: Helpful Shareware Authors >From: Jerry Wilcox ISCJCW@UCCVMA (415)987-0516 Subject: Helpful Shareware Authors I'd like to add Mark Wahl of Green Mountain Software (DocMaker) to the list of shareware authors who are most helpful. Upon registering for DocMaker, he sends a disk containing the latest version of the program plus complete documentation. On mine there was also another of his shareware programs, for examination. Once you are registered, you can send your disk back for the latest version and documentation whenever the package is updated. Also, Bill Goodman (Compact Pro) has already been mentioned, but I'd especially like to note that Bill is active on several on-line services and is very prompt to respond to questions or problem reports. So far, he's given me better response for a small shareware contribution than I've gotten for several commercial packages costing hundreds more (not to mention the lack of support from Apple itself, for a system costing thousands more :-)= ) Disclaimer: These are my own personal opinions, not my employer's. + Jerry Wilcox -- ISCJCW@UCCVMA.ucop.edu -- phone: (415)987-0516 + ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 18:18:45 -0500 From: jonathan@nis.ans.net (Jonathan Miller) Subject: Help needed for getting MacMS To whom it may concern: I'm new to the internet and would like to download a mail program for my Mac IIci. I've heard that it's called MacMS. I'm running TCP/IP directly out of my Mac onto Ethernet. We have a unix (AIX) mail server. Right now I telnet to the server to send and receive mail, but, naturally, would like something better. I've poked around a bit in imap/ and info-mac/ but am thoroughly confused. What exactly need I download, how do I convert it for Mac or AIX, and where should it reside?? Thanks in advance for your help, Sincerely, Overwhelmed-by-whats-out-there ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 9:18:41 CST From: Dave Milton <milton@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Subject: How to ftp .sit files? > > Hi people, > Can anybody tell me how to ftp files with .sit extension? Unlike those with > .hqx, I have never succeeded in getting the .sit files. > I use ftp from CMS system, then use PC TCP/ftp thing to get the file to a DOS > floppy, and then do Text Translation with Apple-file-exchange. > > Any help is appreciated. > > Jack > There are 3 problems with the above procedure and all are related to the fact that .sit files are NOT text. 1) The actual ftp must be done in a binary fashion. Once you have connected to the remote system issue the ftp command 'binary'. This will allow you binary transfers on all files you 'get' or 'mget'. 2) When you ftp the file down to the PC issue the binary commmand before starting the transfer. 2) Do not do a Text Translation with Apple-file-exchange. Instead, use the default 'copy' mode where no translation of the file is done. That should work. Whenever transferring files from remote systems check the type of file you are getting. If it is not text then remember to transfer it with a binary transfer. Dave Milton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 11:17:14 MST From: EPETERS%CSUGREEN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Eric L. Peters: Radiol. & Rad. Biol., CSU) Subject: HyperCard Picture XCMD Bug? Hello All: I was trying to do some scripting in HyperTalk (i.e., wasting time) last weekend and I came upon what appears to be a bug in the Picture XCMD included with HyperCard 2.0. According to my reference (Winkler & Kamins' "HyperTalk 2.0: The Book"), I should be able to load a PICT resource by specifying its location and name, and display it in one of several window types, using specified coordinates to determine the size and position of the window, e.g., picture pictureName,resource, dialog, "10,40,236,188" should open a picture window that has the same name as pictureName that contains a graphic that is stored as a PICT resource in the stack from which this command is called. The PICT should then open (in this example) in a dialog box-type window with the rectangular coordinates (left,top,right,bottom) indicated above. Unfortunately, the only part of this command that does NOT appear to work is the window position command. No matter what parameters I use for the window rect, the window always opens in the center of my screen. I have also found that I cannot put the window rect coordinates into a variable name without including quotes for the text and using the VALUE of the variable name, i.e., put quote & "10,40,236,188" & quote into frameSize puts text of the right syntax into the variable (frameSize), and set the rect of window pictureName to (the value of frameSize) Moves the window to the correct position on the screen, but ONLY AFTER IT IS OPENED!, NOT WHEN INCLUDED AS A PARAMETER IN THE PICTURE COMMAND!. The following script DOES work, but the results are not quite what I want. What happens is the window opens in the wrong position (centered on the screen) and then jumps to the correct position. on openCard global pictureName,frameSize put empty into pictureName put empty into frameSize get line 1 of bg field "Species" put it into pictureName put quote & "10,40,236,188" & quote into frameSize picture pictureName, resource, rect if there is a window pictureName then hide window pictureName set the rect of window pictureName to (the value of frameSize) show window pictureName end if end openCard AAARGH!!! Ahem. This is annoying, because the lock screen command does not hide the picture window when it is opened or moved, so the users of this stack see picture windows jumping all over the place each time each time they switch cards. Has anyone had any experience with this command that can help me see what I am doing wrong? Also, does anyone know how (or if) you can close these or other windows (e.g. palettes) when switching to another open stack? Mine are still floating there when I switch to another stack. I have already wasted considerable time on this thing, and I would be ever so grateful for an answer. I will happily post a summary of the replies, and any helpful script examples that result to the Digest. By the way, I have found no mention of this XCMD or its syntax in the HyperCard help stacks. Thanks a lot! * Eric L. Peters EPETERS@CSUGREEN.UCC.COLOSTATE.EDU * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 18:28:01 PST From: Michael O'Henly <LUX@uvvm.uvic.ca> Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #61 Re: How to ftp .sit files? (Jack Sun) Assuming that you are successfully ftp'ing .hqx files but having trouble with .sit files... What you want to do is tell FTP that the file you're downloading is in binary format. In FTP, enter "binary" or "type i" before you "get" the .sit file you're after... Michael O'Henly McPherson Library, University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C., Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 08:20:50 EST From: Mark Edward Toomey <MTOOMEY@uga.cc.uga.edu> Subject: LaserWriter Access Restrictions Can anyone tell me if there's an init/cdev fix to prevent certain groups on an AppleShare network from accessing certain Rdevs, especialy Laser- Writers? For example, is it possible to limit Zone #1's access to the LaserWriter on Zone #2 and visa versa? Something like Chooser User perhaps? * Mark Edward Toomey Internet: mtoomey@uga.cc.uga.edu * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 00:03:29 EST From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL%UCONNVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Memory Manager Fx On Mon, 11 Mar 91 14:29:44 +0000 you said: >I recently upgraded my old MACII to a MACIIFx. >In the info-mac's was spoken of a bug in the memory manager ROM. It seems to >me that I notice also that decrease of speed sometimes. There was a solution >with a init called "MMinit". I heared rumors that AppleComputer does not >recommended >the use of this init becose of diskcraches with loss of data/information. I used the INIT for awhile on a IIci with 8 MB RAM. I didn't notice any change in speed, but I did notice strange behavior leading to unexplained system hangs which went away when I removed the INIT. I've lost count of the number of INIT's I'm running so no telling what sort of undesirable interaction could have occurred. The peculiar behavior seems also to be associated with Rear Window MF (which works quite well under Finder alone) an otherwise VERY handy INIT I'd prefer to keep using. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 10:08:42 -0500 From: Jonathan Mills <jwmills@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Mildly Misleading & Insulting The new Cubist screen saver is not just designed for users of small-screen Macs, it is designed *not* to work with small Macs that have been enhanced with a large display. Worse, the author, Alan Keahey, appears to take a perverse pride in this design, presenting a mildly insulting screen to the user who has managed to escape the bounds of 9" Macs. I would not object, except that the "advertisement" for Cubist implies that the program is for small-screen Macs versus the Mac II series. Thus, Keahey was able to con some number of folks into wasting net bandwidth to transfer a program over that we won't use (switch to a 9" screen to use Cubist -- no way!), and further, get his chuckle after we extract the program, and then find his message on the screen instead of a screen-saver. I suggest posting a revised description of Cubist, such as "Only works on a 9" screen; does not support larger screen sizes". Sincerely, Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 21:38:39 EST From: Andre Dumais <dre%RAMSEY.CS.LAURENTIAN.CA@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Modula-2 compiler Fellow netters, Quite some time ago there was a Modula-2 compiler for the mac, in the archives. I can no longer find it, and really need it. I was hoping that someone out there may have have a copy of one. If so could you please post it, or if possible mail it to me. This would be greatly appreciated. Thanx, Dre. dre@RAMSEY.CS.LAURENTIAN.CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 2:31:48 CST From: bdolson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Brian Olson) Subject: Not Really Sure... This will probably sound quite naive to you, but how can I have files sent to me directly. Presently I am typing "get filex.hqx" and then closing the ftp going to kermit, and then typing "send filex.hqx" and I then receive the file using Microphone II 3.0 Receive Kermit File. I know there is an easier way, but I really have no idea how to do it. I have downloaded the zmodem.part*.shar, but I don't know how to make them one file, and then to utilize them so I can receive files using the zmodem protocol. Please make the directions very simple, and go through all the steps. The people at our computer center here at Northwestern have been no help at all. They don't know how to do it. I would really like to change the way I do that, so then I can actually get the deskwriter driver 2.1 which I can't get becuase it exceeds my disk quota! I really appreciate your help. Sincerely, Brian Olson bdolson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 12 Mar 91 8:11 From: Constantin.Kahn@cdc2.c.mathematik.uni-hannover.dbp.de Subject: Oregon Speed-code Universe - What & Where? The January 1991 issue of the APDAlog has on p.8 a quote by Cary Tengler, Technical Markets Manager for Higher Education at Apple, stating: > Several schools are working on a NeXTstep(R) type of environment. Of > special note is Oregon Speed-code Universe (OSU) from Oregon State > University (OSU) which is an interface builder [for the Mac]. Does anyone know more about this project? Is there an FTP site from which a (beta) release is available? Any information will be appreciated! Constantin P. Kahn, Dept. of Mathematics, U. of Hannover, Germany ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 07:42 N From: "jordi@sc2a.unige.ch ==> S. Jordi, Geneva, Switzerland" <JORDI%sc2a.unige.ch@forsythe.stanford.edu> Subject: Personnal Word 4.0 glossary and ASCII files Hi netters, I've got an ASCII file containing a list of technical words. I would like to use it as a personal glossary in Microsoft Word. So, my problem is to know how to convert it into a usable glossary. When in Word, I can't open it as a glossary. I don't want to enter each word one by one, because there is >20'000 entries ! I also didn't find any explanation in the Microsoft Word 4.0 User's manual. And remember: don't worry, be Apple! Thanks for any help! Steve Jordi: Jordi@sicsun3.epfl.ch or Jordi@sc2a.unige.ch or CIS: 70143,3056 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1991 08:06 ADT From: Stan Armstrong <ARMSTRONG@husky1.stmarys.ca> Subject: QUED/M 2.07->2.09 upgrade I had the same problem until I thought to make a fresh copy of 2.07 >From my master disk. Then everything went normally. . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Mar 91 21:04 EDT From: "G. Watts -- Rochester" <WATTS@urpas> Subject: ResEdit 2.1 and Think C== Hi y'all, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this... but a) APDA tells me (via their 1-800-282-2732 number) that ResEdit 2.1 is on CompuServe and America Online. Is it there because they are charging for it? Or because that is their current method of distribution. When I called they said that APDA wouldn't be selling ResEdit 2.1 until April, or so. What is the deal? And, if it is free, why isn't it on apple.com? b) Does anyone know of Symmantic's plans for the next version of Think C? Like -- are they going C++? Gordon Watts BITNET: watts@uorhep INET: gwatts@rutphy.rutgers.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 11:52:47 CST From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@vm.tcs.tulane.edu> Subject: System 7 partition Thanks to all those who responded to my query about installing System 7 in a partition on a hard disk with 6.0.7 already on it. The clear favorite for creating the partition is La Cie's Silver Lining. Everyone recommends hard partitioning, as provided by SL, over soft partitioning, as provided by various other programs. You can tell which is which, apparently, because hard partitioning will require you to reformat your disk. Having to reformat is a pain, so first of all I will try Murph Sewall's recommendation that I use System Switcher on a single disk with no partitions. There seems to be wide agreement that System 7 is currently pretty stable, and works with most applications. I received a number of warnings about inits, tho'. In the near future, someone will be posting a report on init compatibility with the current S7 beta. Graeme Forbes Bitnet: PL0BALF@TCSVM Internet: PL0BALF@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 11:31:03 EST From: gateh%conncoll.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: The MacClassic Keyboard > It's worse than just mushy; it's one of the worst keyboards to touchtype > on I've ever used - the Commodore PET's Chicklet keyboard was worse. I've > only had my Classic for a few months; maybe I'll get used to it. You're > right about the layout, though. Now if they could just replace the damn > switches! >From what I recall of a product demo by an Apple engineer, the keyboard doesn't have switches. Apparently they used a "sheet" of conductive material, and then worked long and hard on a foam or some such substance between the "sheet" and the keys which roughly gave the feel of switches. I believe this is what contributes to "mushy" feeling that some get from the keyboard. Of course this type of construction saves them much $$$ on the production of the keyboard... I can't help but wonder if and how the feel will change over time. Gregg TeHennepe ** gateh@conncoll.bitnet ** Connecticut College ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Mar 91 07:15:55 -0500 From: adamson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Brian Adamson) Subject: Word 4.0 crashes on Mac IIfx I have been having problems with my Mac IIfx repeatedly crashing when running Microsoft Word 4.0. It seems to occur most often when working with large documents. I've tried several different preventative measures to keep this from happening. I've thought the problem was solved once or twice, but it seems to re-occur. I had one Word document which caused the machine to crash every time I opened it. I tried removing several inits one at a time and after removing AfterDark, I had no trouble with that document. But, still the machine crashes occasionally while running Word. I've also had a couple of different applications give me the "Application has unexpectedly quit" message when starting them up, particularly MacDraw II 1.1. My system configuration is as follows: Mac IIfx w/ 8 meg RAM Radius 19" color display with Radius one-card 24 bit color & graphics accelerator (I don't remember the nomenclature) System 6.0.5 running Multifinder 6.0.5 Some inits: although I've removed them in the past to track this bug On Cue, TOPS, Suitcase, Gatekeeper, If anyone has any insight into this problem, drop me a line. It will be greatly appreciated. My suspicions to the problem at this point. Undocumented further problem w/ Memory Manager, some problem with my Radius graphics accelerator/24 bit card. I also forgot to mention I use a Kensington TurboMouse, I've heard rumors of problems here, but I'm getting complete crashes not just horizontally or vertically restrained mouse movement. Anybody? Thanks, Brian Adamson adamson@css.itd.nrl.navy.mil ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************